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Old 11-19-2007, 05:57 AM
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MEG Replications?

Hello,

I am currently in the process of replicating Tom Bearden's MEG. There are so many skeptics out there. As I saw a successful replication of it by JL Naudin (http://jnaudin.free.fr/meg/megv21.htm) I decided to replicate it with the stuff I found to see what happens. I couldn't find nanocrystalin cores. So I have used a big round ferrite. I will post my results here. I hope that something good will happen.

If anybody has had any experiences with the MEG or has insights into its operation please post here. If MEG works then one can theoretically buy a cheap 45 watt solar panel and produce up to 10KWatts of electricity by cascading them.

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Old 11-19-2007, 02:45 PM
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Elias,
That looks very promising, and the link you provided looked very well put together. I could see how this could work, so for sure let us know!

Im concentrating on the "Hydro Booster" right now, but would definetly consider this after this project is done. Looks simple, straight forward and conceptually possible.

Good Luck!
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Old 11-19-2007, 03:54 PM
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Tested it with no luck

Well, I tested it today by using a circuit exactly described by Naudin, But I couldn't achieve more than 50-60% output. (As also pointed out in this replication meg) I saw that including the magnet seems to have no effect on the efficiency and this is what bothers me the most. Removing it apparently neither increases the efficiency nor decreases it. Mine behaved almost like a normal transformer but with an specific pulsing circuit.

Maybe I should use nanocrystalin cores for better flux transfer or maybe it requires more tuning to it. I'll do more tests with it and see what happens.

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Old 11-19-2007, 05:08 PM
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as i recall the core material in a meg is absolutley critical, something to do with the saturation.
that's probably where it went wrong
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Old 11-19-2007, 05:40 PM
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as i recall the core material in a meg is absolutley critical, something to do with the saturation.
that's probably where it went wrong
Thanks Jan,

I figured out this too and also I want to add these two threads here:

Yahoo! Groups
Yahoo! Groups

I am not so sure if MEG works or not anymore, Naudin motivated me for replicating it, but I am starting to think that why hasn't been a successful replication after Naudin's for more than 7 years? Neither Bearden Nor Naudin reply and talk about it anymore, why?

I wish I had joined the yahoo group earlier before replicating it, but nevermind, It'll look nice on my shelf!

I am now more skeptical about the solid state free energy devices or maybe they require exotic material, such as radioactive ones, or good conductors on magnetism. I think that obtaining free energy by means of mechanical conversions is much more feasible.

Infinite Light ...
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Old 01-24-2008, 06:56 PM
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Observations from a novice

Saw your thread on the MEG. Please note, I'm a novice at all of this. Note, I donít have a background in science or engineering, but I have spent 1/3 of my life in claims investigation and investigating claims of fraud for a fortune 50 company. So, letís just say I like to research and investigate stuff. What I like to do is research not just the device, but who the person who created it worked with....

On a somewhat unrelated note, Iíve also been reading a discussion of replicating a T.P.U. found here: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"

Some observations that Iíve made:
See John Hutchinson, where he shows a battery made from crystalline material, and the plans and explanation on how to get the metal applied to the crystal was provided by Tom Bearden:
See John Hutchison, The Wild Scientist from Vancouver
Now, I couldnít exactly remember which patent I read from Nikola Tesla found here:
KeelyNet Patents
But he discussed using a composition of dielectric crytalline material on a sheet of mica, and would discharge electricity... I know I read it somewhere in all of Tesla's patents. Darn if I canít find it nowÖ.
The whole concept of Radiant Energy interests meÖ
Patent# 685,958 Method Of Utilizing of Radiant Energy
http://www.keelynet.com/tesla/00685958.pdf

Now, just for chuckles, I go back to Tom Beardenís MEG:
Tom's page:
The Tom Bearden Website
You know, the design of the coils and apparatus reminds me of Edward Leedshalninís stuff:
Edward Leedskalnin: Magnetic Current
see an adaptation whereby electricity is applied to this device
Emery Version - Leedskalnin Perpetual Motion Holder - KeelyNet 06/05/03
notice Floyd Sweet is described toward the bottom of the page? Floyd Sweetís replication of Tom Beadenís MEG can be found at the bottom of Tom Bearden's site...

Well, thatís all I have for now. As soon as I get my hands on a few books on electricity and circuits, Iím going to try to build this stuff too!
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Richardson

Gentlemen,

The MEG patent says that the "nano-crystaline" core material is METGLAS. It's very expensive, but has very unusual magnetic properties.

I personally believe that a more fruitful path of inquiry is to be found following up on the work of the late Frank Richardson. His technology definitely worked, and he was harassed for years and kept from making it commercially available.

The MEG patent cites Richardson as "prior art" and I believe it is "superior art" as well.

http://www.pat2pdf.org/patents/pat4077001.pdf

Check it out.

Peter
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Old 01-27-2008, 12:09 AM
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You may want to give the Transverter a try. I have not built one but you can find more info here:
Roto Verter

http://www.panacea-bocaf.org/files/T...%20and%20D.pdf
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Old 01-27-2008, 06:22 PM
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MEG Patent

Thanks Peter!
I wonder why the MEG patent, 6,362,718 B1
http://www.cheniere.org/references/MEG_Patent.pdf couldn't just say "MEGLASS?"

Jason, anyone is there any independent replication of this device outside of the website you provided?

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Old 01-28-2008, 03:23 AM
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Metglas Material

Tom Beardenís patent refers to advances in amorphous nanocrystalline materials including: Co-NB-B and FE-B-Si-NB-Cu. However, the patent never clearly spells out the exact composition that was actually used. According to: Modern Electrical Drives, by H. Bulen Ertan. Modern Electrical Drives - Google Book Search
Metglas was ďÖ invented in the years 1970-80 at the Allied Corporation, USA and are now used for the cores of low (50 Hz) and high (100 Hz) frequency power transformers, impulse and signal transformers (Alloys 2605 SC, 2605 S-3), space vehicles 400 Hz (2605 C), chokes and telecommunication electromagnetic components.Ē Allied Signal Corporation then purchased Honeywell, which has since divested the Metglas unit.
Iím assuming that MEG used Alloys 2605 SC, 2605 S-3 based on Hz?
For a further discussion of Alloys 2605 SC, 2605 S-3 see: A structural model for metallic glasses
A structural model for metallic glasses
To Purchase Metglas
Block EMF:
Appliance Shielding - Metglas
Metglas
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Old 01-30-2008, 08:50 PM
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Transverter

This is the most documnted I have seen:

Jini's Transverter Replication

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