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Agreed.




likewise, your "buddha quote" is BS, no such passage exists in the Pali Nikayas.



You got that trash from a non-original source wholly outside of the NIkayas


how would I know? 20+ years of translating Pali texts son.
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Lightbulb Gravity induced by Magnetism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fdhyhPu6PY

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Aether Interaction

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Agreed.




likewise, your "buddha quote" is BS, no such passage exists in the Pali Nikayas.



You got that trash from a non-original source wholly outside of the NIkayas


how would I know? 20+ years of translating Pali texts son.
why does stupid (you) always show up and tell genius (ME+me) what it already knows?

duh you the Pali expert who likes to STALK me on this forum has again proved what kind of azzhole you are sir, err old man.

On my blog I actually provide a third party link for dinks just like you, here it is...
“Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon, and the truth.” Buddha | Fake Buddha Quotes

Now being a self anointed and appointed Pali expert, what can a dummy like you extract from the language linking the swastika to the sun via Surya and or Ganesha?

eh mister azzhole?

look sonny this thread is about the SUN and trying to figure out what it is.

DUH we know what I AM ... I have years of blogs to prove it, in fact.


The unanswered question IS ... what does a Pali expert know about what makes the SUN tick and talk to us?

Duhhhhhhhh?

What do EWE have to offer ya dummy?

hey stupid go here and ACTUALLY read what genius has recovered;
https://at37.wordpress.com/2013/10/0...and-the-truth/

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thanks Al

is that what the SUN is?
interesting video Al, but I am a very very slow learner, so could you explain how the experiment in the video explains how the sun functions?
pretend I am a little kid....make it simpleton for me.

what SUN narrative do you support Al?

vote now

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good video ... I left comments and questions with the fella who made the video....

Keshe

Keshe offers a book and in the book is a story or a narrative.
But at the end of the day his theory is cloaked in a narrative, offering a promise.

PhDUH Keshe offers a theory + promise + narrative NOT to be confused with the TRUTH.

let me know when that wanker comes up with real world APPLICATIONS that serve the real world in the HERE and NOW?

https://at37.wordpress.com/2012/02/0...-the-swastika/
Let me give you an example of an IDEA that will not go away that provides APPLICATIONS that benefit humanity/real world in the HERE and NOW.

Duh the day ye folks understand what the swastika is, is the day you realize why the ancients associated it to the power of the sun.

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is that what the SUN is?
No, it is a natural nuclear fission reactor,
see:

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Nature’s Nuclear Reactors: The 2-Billion-Year-Old Natural Fission Reactors in Gabon, Western Africa

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On my blog I actually provide a third party link for dinks just like you, here it is...
“Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon, and the truth.” Buddha | Fake Buddha Quotes

Now being a self anointed and appointed Pali expert, what can a dummy like you extract from the language linking the swastika to the sun:


Youre an idiot, no such passage exists in the Prakrit Pali


been translating same for just over 20 years now.


I have a pali search engine as well, as for the term SOTTHI (suti, or suasti *swastika*) , no such passage exists linking same to the Sun.


Not a single one. All references to same are as per liberation and the Soul




Again, youre an idiot, and know not of that which you speak.
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sorry Al but the obvious is lost on you.

the obvious which I am TRYING to point out.

YOU claim the sun is powered by nuclear fission and you provide links.
Others like Eric Dollard who this website shows respect and honors, claims the SUN is hollow and 'electric' in its origins.

Who is correct?

YOU DON'T KNOW and neither do I, DUH can we agree on that?

YOU DON'T have the technical equipment to figure it out, neither do I.
Agreed?

I really don't care how the SUN is powered, I am not that invested in either theory, I AM interested and invested in seeking a truth.

Because which ever team wins NUCLEAR vs ELECTRIC, the swastika will be there to accept the honors as a viable symbol representing the sun as it has for thousands of years...

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Youre an idiot, no such passage exists in the Prakrit Pali


been translating same for just over 20 years now.


I have a pali search engine as well, as for the term SOTTHI (suti, or suasti *swastika*) , no such passage exists linking same to the Sun.


Not a single one. All references to same are as per liberation and the Soul




Again, youre an idiot, and know not of that which you speak.
No you sir are the idiot.
How many times must you repeat the LIE that you are a Pali expert
Can I see your dippy-ploma?

Talk is cheap on forums.
And you are evidence of azzholes who rise to the occasion.

This thread is not about the Pali translation of the 12,000+ year old swastika, DUH, DUH, DUH.

It is about the controversy regarding the SUN.
Is it ELECTRIC or NUCLEAR powered?

Are you too stupid, too much of an idiot to join in the conversation?

Okay you win the swastika is what you say it is.
What a self-anointed dummy like you wins I have no idea.

Now mister winner/loser please TRY to tell me what you as a Pali expert + your swastika insights can tell me about the SUN, SURYA and GANESHA and a narrative that was designed to teach dumbfooks like you?

eh stupid human, what else have ewe got besides a Pali POV?

rise up
raise your game stupid human

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SURYA and GANESHA

Im sorry that you are an idiot, however as is the case, the Gnesh and Surya post date Prakrit by approx. 900 years.


Dont comment on Brahmi' Prakit, a topic of which you have no study whatsoever.


As for ALL passages of the term SOTTHI, they were provided 2 pages ago....


suggest you re-translate them, however learning Pali would take you about 10 years.



You have nothing intelligent to contribute on the topic whatsoever.





Your sexual fixation on the swastika is not a noble topic for anything pertaining to energy, nor the sun, hollow or otherwise.


Likewise, said metaphysical principle-attribute symbolism is beyond your kin as well.


Lux et veritas
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Im sorry that you are an idiot, however as is the case, the Gnesh and Surya post date Prakrit by approx. 900 years.


Dont comment on Brahmi' Prakit, a topic of which you have no study whatsoever.


As for ALL passages of the term SOTTHI, they were provided 2 pages ago....


suggest you re-translate them, however learning Pali would take you about 10 years.



You have nothing intelligent to contribute on the topic whatsoever.





Your sexual fixation on the swastika is not a noble topic for anything pertaining to energy, nor the sun, hollow or otherwise.


Likewise, said metaphysical principle-attribute symbolism is beyond your kin as well.


Lux et veritas
no sir it appears that your IGNORANCE is holding you back.

To link the swastika to fertility rites is not a sexual fixation ... (you really are quite stupid I AM is realizing)
Why would you bring up sexual fixation?
That dumbfook statement by you sir clearly exposes how blinded you have become to simple realities visible in plain sight.

(shiva linga comes to mind)
Anybody studying the origins of man and woman and an allegorical place called Eden or lalala land would need to factor in 'fertility', the idea of seeds, a serpent with a forked tongue, and of course the pricks and c*nts needed to pull off the entire sha-bang.

you are apparently content to play a game that revolves around your expertise for which there is NO evidence azzhole.

2017 ~ Intelligent Design ~ The Temple Of Man ~ Master Builder’s Grid ~ the Swastika and the Gravity of the Situation
https://at37.wordpress.com/2013/12/1...builders-grid/
here is the evidence suggesting the swastika is an 'Intelligent Design', sent by heaven, taken possession by ignorant dumbfooks like you sir who are out of their element.

dude you do NOT need to stay stupid forever.
the swastika as a representative of the system we are a part of, can teach you about itself, it wants to teach dummies like you sir ... just open up your closed mind.

2017 ~ Intelligent Design ~ NANO World APPLICATIONS for the SWASTIKA ~ the true blue and red AVATAR
https://at37.wordpress.com/2012/02/0...-the-swastika/

Is cognitive bias holding EWE back herr Pali expert?
POV can be a problem for flat-landers sir.



Back to the issues as I see them regarding an emerging religion called science.

What powers the sun (it appears that many scientists will need to return their PhDUHs ) and why don't self-anointed forum PhDUH azzholes admit they are ignorant of what the swastika offers to a bigger picture?

Hey azzhole does your Pali text give earth bound wankers any clues to what powers the sun?



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The following text/chart came out of a 1904 publication, Annie Besant was the author of the book called ....

"A STUDY IN CONSCIOUSNESS"



Hey Al does the 'aether' play a role in your theory?

Where does plasma come in exactly...?

The reason I ask is because I have done my homework regarding the assignment given me.

Intelligent Design a Nobel Prize ~ The Importance of Asymmetry and How Einstein Made Asymmetry, the AEther, the Atma, and the Swastika Disappear
https://at37.wordpress.com/2012/03/2...asymmetry-etc/

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selah


delusional and pathetic fool, the Ether as "air" ie animus syn. with Atman (Pali Attan) is metaphysical "air", not literally air, fool.


same term in english as in Pali and sanskrit,


Atman, soul, animus, the breath of animation, ie the Soul


Atma (root prakrit, Pali Attan, : Soul), Atmosphere "AIR" Atma-spheros (sphere of the air(s)....).



I see metaphysical symbolism is easily lost on weak minds.
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delusional and pathetic fool, the Ether as "air" ie animus syn. with Atman (Pali Attan) is metaphysical "air", not literally air, fool.


same term in english as in Pali and sanskrit,


Atman, soul, animus, the breath of animation, ie the Soul


Atma (root prakrit, Pali Attan, : Soul), Atmosphere "AIR" Atma-spheros (sphere of the air(s)....).


I see metaphysical symbolism is easily lost on weak minds.

cheap comments from the cheap seats
wankers like you get change back from your two cents worth,
a penny for your thoughts

the world according to pali will get azzholes like you sir nowhere
you are the dumbfook here sir

raise your game
BTW what do you think powers the SUN dude?

nuclear fission?
electricity?
pali language?
hebrew language?



why don't azzholes like you realize that your Pali language is based on SOUNDZZZZ ?????

and SOUND waves and LIGHT waves can be linked to what herr Pali azzhole expert?
I have a feeling I AM wasting my time asking a dummy like you anything about energy, unless it is wasted.

The Pali language is extinct in the 21st century because it apparently only breeds stupid humans
Pali azzholes went the 'way of the dodo' not to be confused with the Fourth Way
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cheap comments from the cheap seats
wankers like you get change back from your two cents worth,
a penny for your thoughts

the world according to pali will get azzholes like you sir nowhere
you are the dumbfook here sir

raise your game
BTW what do you think powers the SUN dude?

nuclear fission?
electricity?
pali language?
hebrew language?



why don't azzholes like you realize that your Pali language is based on SOUNDZZZZ ?????

and SOUND waves and LIGHT waves can be linked to what herr Pali azzhole expert?
I have a feeling I AM wasting my time asking a dummy like you anything about energy, unless it is wasted.

The Pali language is extinct in the 21st century because it apparently only breeds stupid humans
Pali azzholes went the 'way of the dodo' not to be confused with the Fourth Way



I count about 20 curse words....


and 0 on-topic statements of any worth or value or relevancy




Seek mental help.
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I count about 20 curse words....


and 0 on-topic statements of any worth or value or relevancy




Seek mental help.
azzholes like you show up on threads discussing the SUN, is it nuclear or electrical and your response is ?????

I need medical help?

Dude you apparently need help more than me.

two facts
you offer nothing in the controversy about what powers the SUN on a thread discussing what powers the SUN.

in fact your only claim to fame on this topic is trying to win over the crazy guy (me) with your Pali idiot sh*t.

duh you are a stupid little man and you do not even realize it.
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you offer nothing in the controversy about what powers the SUN on a thread discussing what powers the SUN.
Physics professor Ephraim Fischbach decided to use the decay of radioactive isotopes as a source of randomness.

Intrigued, they checked out long range observations of silicon-32 and radium-226 decay, both of which showed a slight but definite variation over time. Intriguingly, the decay seemed to vary with the seasons, with the rate a little faster in the winter and a little slower in the summer.

nuclear engineer Jere Jenkins noticed the decay rate of the short-lived isotope manganese-54 dropped slightly during a solar flare. In fact, the decrease began a good 36 hours before the flare occurred.

The seasonal fluctuations suggested the Sun could be involved somehow, and the solar flare connection confirmed it. The scientists speculated that solar neutrinos, the nearly massless particles created as byproducts of the sun’s fusing of hydrogen atoms into helium, might be causing these variations. The fact that these neutrinos pass straight through the Earth with ease fit well with the fact that the decay rates were changing even at night, when the entire planet was between the radioactive isotopes and the Sun.

Once the researchers conclusively ruled out environmental influences, that left the Sun as the only possible cause of the decay variations. They also found that the amount of change varied in time with the Earth’s orbit – the effect was greater when the orbit brought the Earth closer to the Sun and thus into contact with more neutrinos.

They found the decay rates recurred every 33 days, which didn’t quite fit with the Sun’s known surface rotation length of 28 days. But the neutrinos wouldn’t be coming from the surface – they would be coming from deep inside the core. Unlikely as it might seem, the sun’s core must be rotating a little slower than its surface, apparently once every 33 days.


The Sun is changing the rate of radioactive decay


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Our current day idiot science doesnt even know what a neutrino is.

Atomist "scientists" think its a particle, but thats impossible.

They are the after effect longitudinal force-pulses in the Ether.

little pinch-points in the ether as the result of enormous energy (Sun, radiation, etc).
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Our current day idiot science doesnt even know what a neutrino is.
the "little neutral one" u get by playing with two "slots"


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They are the after effect longitudinal force-pulses in the Ether.
scalar/longitudinal waves penetrate the earth - "when the entire planet was between the radioactive isotopes and the Sun"

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Physics professor Ephraim Fischbach decided to use the decay of radioactive isotopes as a source of randomness.

Intrigued, they checked out long range observations of silicon-32 and radium-226 decay, both of which showed a slight but definite variation over time. Intriguingly, the decay seemed to vary with the seasons, with the rate a little faster in the winter and a little slower in the summer.

nuclear engineer Jere Jenkins noticed the decay rate of the short-lived isotope manganese-54 dropped slightly during a solar flare. In fact, the decrease began a good 36 hours before the flare occurred.

The seasonal fluctuations suggested the Sun could be involved somehow, and the solar flare connection confirmed it. The scientists speculated that solar neutrinos, the nearly massless particles created as byproducts of the sun’s fusing of hydrogen atoms into helium, might be causing these variations. The fact that these neutrinos pass straight through the Earth with ease fit well with the fact that the decay rates were changing even at night, when the entire planet was between the radioactive isotopes and the Sun.

Once the researchers conclusively ruled out environmental influences, that left the Sun as the only possible cause of the decay variations. They also found that the amount of change varied in time with the Earth’s orbit – the effect was greater when the orbit brought the Earth closer to the Sun and thus into contact with more neutrinos.

They found the decay rates recurred every 33 days, which didn’t quite fit with the Sun’s known surface rotation length of 28 days. But the neutrinos wouldn’t be coming from the surface – they would be coming from deep inside the core. Unlikely as it might seem, the sun’s core must be rotating a little slower than its surface, apparently once every 33 days.


The Sun is changing the rate of radioactive decay


Al
All of the above is interesting BUT the very last paragraph puts the entire rant into question....

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They found the decay rates recurred every 33 days, which didn’t quite fit with the Sun’s known surface rotation length of 28 days. But the neutrinos wouldn’t be coming from the surface – they would be coming from deep inside the core. Unlikely as it might seem, the sun’s core must be rotating a little slower than its surface, apparently once every 33 days.
stop the press ~ the official NARRATIVE is still in question!!!

I thought NASA's data suggests the SUN rotates about once every 37 days at the poles and once every 26 days at the equator.



Resulting in a model basing on a SHEARING effect

well?

You might want to read this first before responding.
https://at37.wordpress.com/2013/01/0...ice-cotterell/

I have a wealth of knowledge to draw from that supports ONE idea.



this is a great great video too
best explanation I have seen

The above IMAGE + VIDEO might help lay the groundwork of where ME+me genius is headed, that ONE idea....

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I thought NASA's data suggests the SUN rotates about once every 37 days at the poles and once every 26 days at the equator.
Sun-a "plasma globe" except powered by fission not fusion.
Sun's apparent rotation is 28 days because its "surface" revolves at different speeds.
"Unlikely as it might seem, the sun’s core must be rotating a little slower than its surface, apparently once every 33 days." - Inconclusive, the sun-aether interaction points are unknown (core/surface/N/S).


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Sun-a "plasma globe" except powered by fission not fusion.
Sun's apparent rotation is 28 days because its "surface" revolves at different speeds.
"Unlikely as it might seem, the sun’s core must be rotating a little slower than its surface, apparently once every 33 days." - Inconclusive, the sun-aether interaction points are unknown (core/surface/N/S).


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do you have a link for your claims

I can give you plenty for mine

But does it matter?

Do you know what a NARRATIVE is?

SEE THAT BIG GLOWING THING UP IN THE SKY?
WHAT IS IT'S NARRATIVE?

Apparently the sciences and religion can NOT agree on its narrative.

What is its NARRATIVE?

After thousands of years we still do NOT know.

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do you have a link for your claims
A thermonuclear weapon is a nuclear weapon design that uses the energy from
a primary nuclear fission reaction to compress and ignite a secondary nuclear fusion reaction.

Thermonuclear weapon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


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WHAT IS IT'S NARRATIVE?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?annota...&v=o6jBK1ZV-qs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCUhm63ioCU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jHsq36_NTU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4V-ooITrws


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WHAT IS IT'S NARRATIVE?

that your tinfoil hat is too tight.



maybe its powered by the Alien servants of Xenu
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that your tinfoil hat is too tight.



maybe its powered by the Alien servants of Xenu
Ah the parrot who reBLEATs nonsense ... Pali want a cracker?

Who knows the truth?
I know a dummy like you sir does not.

Maybe Maurice Cotterell's version based on NASA data has some validity?
Who knows?
He has written books sharing his thoth thoughts.

Clearly many scholars do not know the truth ... duh did I spend $$$ to be wrong yet armed with a PhDUH?

nope, but there are plenty of dopes who did, and who own dippy-plomas giving their ego something to do, defend the dummy that is you

The featured star of this website suggests the sun is hollow.
Have any of you hot dogs/wieners taken Eric Dullard on?

Hey Pali dumbfu*k?
Have you taken your pathetic act to Eric Dollard?

Go here; Eric Dollard



Btw I cancelled my satellite some time ago, the thought of employing a wanker like ewe to stand on my roof as an act of charity was misplaced
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A thermonuclear weapon is a nuclear weapon design that uses the energy from
a primary nuclear fission reaction to compress and ignite a secondary nuclear fusion reaction.

Thermonuclear weapon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia




https://www.youtube.com/watch?annota...&v=o6jBK1ZV-qs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCUhm63ioCU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jHsq36_NTU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4V-ooITrws


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LOL

dude I can bury ewe with links too, did you notice I did not

now show me you can think for yourself and are not just another fool cutting and pasting stuff he knows very little about.

go back to those videos and highlight for me the important points you want to make about your 'pet helical SS theory' ....

... and this is also important to remember, please explain if your *brand new theory regarding the structure of the solar system AND apparent rotation can help us define IF the sun is nuclear, electrical, magnetic or .... ___________ ? (the theory still to come)

And how does gravity being defined as 70% pushing + 30% pulling fit into your vortex scenario?



fair enough?

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the TRUTH appears lost on ALL of you.

the fact I want to debate what powers the SUN, still not resolved, now needs to account also for a brand new theory that needs to be tested regarding the topography of the solar system...and maybe the universe at an even larger scale?

some of YOU have theories, some do not, some just follow, cut and paste.

I have a theory too.
But a theory that provides APPLICATIONS should be heeded.
And the Swastika RMF (rotating magnetic field) theory comes with APPLICATIONS that benefit humanity in the here and now, that is a wow.
https://at37.wordpress.com/2012/02/0...-the-swastika/

BUT wankers like the Pali expert who till now have put NOTHING on the table are wankers .... just offering up his dumbfu*k ego not far removed from a parrot reBLEATing what it has been told.

https://at37.wordpress.com/2013/04/2...astika-quotes/
And all of these wise people agree with ME+me thus the reader can conclude you sir are claiming to be an expert, but clearly a stupid one.

https://at37.wordpress.com/2012/02/1...010-dan-brown/
Did you know the swastika addresses the proverbial paradoxical stupid/expert hybrids that beget each other ... ?

Pali want a cracker?
...sorry ya dope, but the swastika narrative being recovered clearly trumps what a dummy like you is offering to share in the here and now, your ignorance is deafening.
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does it matter what the folks in the east think or promote?

what is the archetypal message east to west in building the world's biggest icon representing an idea, or ideal, with a solar swastika on the breast of the Buddha ...

eh?

duh I say
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LOL

your 'pet helical SS theory' ....

your *brand new theory
Why is it a theory?


Why this segment shows incomplete and simplified solar system trail?


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