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Old 02-16-2013, 12:41 PM
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Sorry to see this kind of thing going on but I am not at all surprised. After all if there is only one thing we are taught in this society, it is that we shall be rewarded for our greed.
Have you considered selling a kit of your own at a lesser cost. That should put him out of buisiness. I am sure it would be of better quality as well.
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Old 02-17-2013, 05:40 PM
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To quote Slayer -
"But I see this as just a scammer, Charging $15 for diagrams that are on the internet for free. And charging $325 for an exciter when it should cost under $25 to make."

Exactly.
This is deeper than a rip off of circuits and methods - who will actually take delivery of their exciter if he's scamming heavily from the outset ?!
Kickstarter's own image could well be damaged and perhaps they just can't see it.


DesertExperimenter has uploaded a very scathing attack:

FREE ENERGY: FRAUDSTER ASSASSINATION: TeslaTronix- Tesla Power For The Masses - YouTube
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Old 02-17-2013, 11:27 PM
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Sorry Guys I did get a little carried away.
But I see this as just a scammer, Charging $15 for diagrams that are on the internet for free. And charging $325 for an exciter when it should cost under $25 to make.


Hi Slayer,


There another way to handle the scattered rf energy and concentrate on the tips of the coil only....
YOUR LAST CIRCUIT wherein I wrapped an opposite direction coil wind in L1 one third of the lenght of the coil
This I think is the safety factor that Im looking for .... please try this also

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Old 02-19-2013, 05:20 AM
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Guys:
I made my version of the Slayer Transistor Booster Exciter circuit.
This one is a bit different, and uses the same transistor booster circuit, but using two transistors out of a Clf bulb, # 13007, instead. As I don't have the 2n2222, and since I saw that Toto made his with 2 2n3055, or so, I thought I'd try it with what I have.
Instead of the pancake coil I use my ferrite rod, for the primary, and secondary coils. Further going to the L3 Exciter coil, then to the 25 watt gutted Cfl, and back to the negative rail. For it to work as an Exciter, I just disconnect any load bulbs, and out shoots Rf, all over. But, if the bulb in grounded and also going to the negative rail, Rf is minimal. The light from the Cfl will dimly light my whole house, and several on at once would do the trick.
I do use an outside earth ground, which helps a lot, attached to a couple of places on the circuit.
I'm still working on this circuit, but I try to upload some pics tomorrow, when I get it down, I hope...
So far, the transistors are warm like babies milk, while running on 10 to 12v, the big Clf is fairly bright, and no ringing noise from the coils.

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Old 02-19-2013, 10:00 PM
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Guys:
I made my version of the Slayer Transistor Booster Exciter circuit.
This one is a bit different, and uses the same transistor booster circuit, but using two transistors out of a Clf bulb, # 13007, instead. As I don't have the 2n2222, and since I saw that Toto made his with 2 2n3055, or so, I thought I'd try it with what I have.
Instead of the pancake coil I use my ferrite rod, for the primary, and secondary coils. Further going to the L3 Exciter coil, then to the 25 watt gutted Cfl, and back to the negative rail. For it to work as an Exciter, I just disconnect any load bulbs, and out shoots Rf, all over. But, if the bulb in grounded and also going to the negative rail, Rf is minimal. The light from the Cfl will dimly light my whole house, and several on at once would do the trick.
I do use an outside earth ground, which helps a lot, attached to a couple of places on the circuit.
I'm still working on this circuit, but I try to upload some pics tomorrow, when I get it down, I hope...
So far, the transistors are warm like babies milk, while running on 10 to 12v, the big Clf is fairly bright, and no ringing noise from the coils.

Nick_Z
lighting the whole house is good news
since im using solar / batteries ... this will save on inverters.... the leds are very bright specially the strip ones.....
will wait for ur pics

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Old 02-21-2013, 04:14 AM
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I tried to take a video, or at least some pictures, but my camera's battery finally went out for good. I'll try it with another camera sometime.
The only thing that I notice with the transistor booster circuit on my set up is that the two transistors are running just barely warm, although the light output from the Cfl bulb is about the same as when using just one transistor, no resistor or diode. Still a step in the right direction. It may also mean that the input is not drawing as much current as before.

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Old 02-21-2013, 06:43 PM
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Slayer himself just uploaded this, under his GBluer YouTube name:
Slayer Exciter Developers Kit - YouTube

Excellent News !!!!

If folks want a a well built system, but may not have the time or inclination to wind up a tower or build the circuit themselves, then buy one from the guy himself !

He's even asking people what they think would be a good price point.
Anything below the extortionate TeslaTronix figures I would say.
Way to go Slayer - tackle the rogue head on !
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Old 02-21-2013, 09:21 PM
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Hello All
Ive made slayers exciters years ago, and I support GBluer for his efforts, It's his work damn those copycats. anyways heres my replications made I think years ago.
SLAYER EXCITER IN A BOX - YouTube
Slayer Exciter Replication - YouTube
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Old 02-21-2013, 11:30 PM
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Now we're talkin.
I do want the high voltage though.
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Old 02-22-2013, 01:31 PM
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Do the right thing..........

Kickstart is meant to inspire,to help the artist or "Creator" get his chance ,to get that "dream come true" moment out into the world.
Yes they may encourage the Hacker community in a battle against what they perceive to be the little guy Vrs big guy.


However
There is one thing you can take to the bank,they will Never knowingly Get behind one little guy stealing an open source and Altruistic artists work and "Brand" recognition and posting it as his own.


Its just not what they Do!


The ball is in this community's court,The evidence has been all over the internet for "YEARS"
You want justice?
Or Will you sit back and let people unknowingly subsidize this type of behavior?

We need to work offence not defense!
this is a moment to act like a community,it is an opportunity to shine.........

Our resources here are HUGE !

Please be aware of our standards ,the temptation to act and say "nasty" must be a line we do not cross!

No Nasty..........



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Old 02-22-2013, 10:02 PM
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First, I support Slayer and I do NOT support that person raising money for what he is doing. Especially, with the price gouging of those kits and not communicating with Slayer. Completely ridiculous.

However, I do understand there is nothing illegal that person is doing as the information he is using is put into the public domain.

I don't know any real way to stop that from happening except for not sharing the information to begin with, patenting it or offering it under a EULA (End User License Agreement).

I started this thread: Open Source Issues?
please chime in and post your thoughts about that.
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Old 02-23-2013, 12:01 AM
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Our best effort

Aaron
All true!
In our community there is much between the lines,a lot not said but implied.
The sacrifice and dedication of the many researchers here has always been an amazing example of whats right with this world.

Orgs like Kickstarter were meant to enhance and nourish this wonderful attribute of humanity not to hinder.

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Old 02-24-2013, 07:14 PM
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The benefit of going "open source" is to have all the information placed out there in pubic view, so that anyone and everyone can benefit from it, improve the tech, and also make it available to anyone interested, as a kit, or whatever. If it is kept secret, it won't be useable to anyone at all, expect yourself.

There is NO WAY to avoid what can happen once that information is made public. That is the point.
There may be disadvantages to this, but the advantages outweigh them.

Those that don't want to share, because of the possible consequences, then don't.

Let your heart be your guide.

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Old 04-14-2013, 09:39 AM
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1000 turns of 30 magnetic wire seems to work well. Jack Scholze uses 2 X 1000 turn coils and has a great demo on his youtube video:
Gbluer High Voltage Exciter - YouTube
Also see gbluer's videos on youtube.
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The benefit of going "open source" is to have all the information placed out there in pubic view, so that anyone and everyone can benefit from it, improve the tech, and also make it available to anyone interested, as a kit, or whatever. If it is kept secret, it won't be useable to anyone at all, expect yourself.

There is NO WAY to avoid what can happen once that information is made public. That is the point.
There may be disadvantages to this, but the advantages outweigh them.

Those that don't want to share, because of the possible consequences, then don't.

Let your heart be your guide.

Nick_Z
Well... in this particular case it's advantage for those sharks who have money, knowledge, labs, scientists , workers behind any concept to put it into production fast. Poor inventor will be ridiculed, forgotten, eliminated ...especially that one working alone in garage. I hope I'm wrong....
If it could work the other way we would have every good invention available for everyone on this Earth.
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Old 04-14-2013, 05:09 PM
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In this particular case.... there is now available, what was not previously available... A much cheaper, and affordable Original Slayer EXCITER.

Competition---- is the American way.

But, cooperation is better yet... In a perfect world.

But, if China starts to make them... Well... you know what can happen.
And that can and does happen to most all the really useful devices that are being invented. No way around it.

My thanks to Gbluer for all his efforts.
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I've got a question for u guys bout the coils... I see most of the schematics have an L1, L2, L3 (or L2b). I've got my L2 wound w/ 29awg (what I had), and I know what to do for the L1, but what's the config/placement for L3? is it another coil on a slightly larger pipe, same size wire, just less turns, placed around L2? or slightly thicker wire, same number turns on pipe around L2? etc etc ? Im trying to get this thing built correctly for my first run at it without having to wind, unwind, rewind... waste wire... u kno. I know that there can be practically unlimited configurations as long as it's in proportion and tuned properly, but this is my first go at it. I do not have an LCR. Found a calc online but it doesn't seem to give me the uH number that I'd get if I just connected an LCR, it gives the actual inductance of the field.

oh, n I just wanna add... that TT bs gets me fired up... I despise ppl like that.. profiteers.. esp the plagiarizing ones. he even looks like a scumbag. even worse, he's an Allentown PA scumbag!!! to Slayer, and to the other contributors - I give you props! If I ever come up with a killer mod, you will be the first to know, and it won't get released without your permission! AND the device and any variant of it will always have your name on it!
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I've got a question for u guys bout the coils... I see most of the schematics have an L1, L2, L3 (or L2b). I've got my L2 wound w/ 29awg (what I had), and I know what to do for the L1, but what's the config/placement for L3? is it another coil on a slightly larger pipe, same size wire, just less turns, placed around L2? or slightly thicker wire, same number turns on pipe around L2? etc etc ? Im trying to get this thing built correctly for my first run at it without having to wind, unwind, rewind... waste wire... u kno. I know that there can be practically unlimited configurations as long as it's in proportion and tuned properly, but this is my first go at it. I do not have an LCR. Found a calc online but it doesn't seem to give me the uH number that I'd get if I just connected an LCR, it gives the actual inductance of the field.

oh, n I just wanna add... that TT bs gets me fired up... I despise ppl like that.. profiteers.. esp the plagiarizing ones. he even looks like a scumbag. even worse, he's an Allentown PA scumbag!!! to Slayer, and to the other contributors - I give you props! If I ever come up with a killer mod, you will be the first to know, and it won't get released without your permission! AND the device and any variant of it will always have your name on it!

Hello Brian

The L3 coils should be close to the same specs as your L2 coil. The L3 coil is connected to the negative or positive of the source battery. Moving the L3 coil closer or away from the L1 and L2 coil will help with tuning the exciter. Along with moving the L1 pancake coil up or down the L2 coil.

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