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Old 11-15-2012, 01:54 AM
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People getting dumber?

I know this topic is not apart of "Renewable Energy" that this site is about but I feel the people here are smart. Everyone here is a thinker, a problem solver if you will. So i feel it is best to ask this question here, I feel I'm in good company with other great thinkers here.

I watched this video and it got me thinking. Dumb! You're Dumb! I'm Dumber! We're Dumbest! - YouTube
Maybe the world is really getting dumber. It reminds me of the move idiocracy where in the future people are just flat out dumb. The #1 movie in idiocracy is a butt. This reminds me of a few people i know who sit around all day and watch videos of people getting hurt and they laugh as hard as they can at these people. I even know some people who think that there is only 12 hours in a day, they really think this.

The way i see it is if you do make a free energy device should you let the world have it if its so full of stupid people? A free energy devices will only breed more stupid people like in the movie where peoples lives got easier and natural selection stopped and we kept supporting the idiots so that they can reproduce.

Sorry about the rant but I can't be the only one seeing this? Let me know your experiences with the people of the world.
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Also when did it become not cool to read? Why is the "learning channel" have show about someone name "honey boo boo". Why do people want to become like the ones on "Jersey Shore"? People actually think the Sun revolves around the Earth. Is this crazy or what?
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Old 11-15-2012, 02:38 AM
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Yes you are right I see it in every day life people many people don't think,
they just repeat what others tell them. All the stuff on the news ect. where
there are fitness or health people trying to lecture the general public by telling
them if they don't exercise they will gain weight, there are people telling
people what to eat, what to drink, how to cook, how to exercise, they even
tell people what they want and people lap it up, they say oh you really want
one of these you gotta have one of those blah blah. But it is a result of
people being too lazy to think. It happens with almost everything. If anyone
tries to think for themselves and it goes against the "conditioning" they get
shunned or abused.

Logic and common sense (not the best description not so common anymore) anyway
logic and common sense are powerful tools for the brain to use. But effort is required.

"If", "and", "then". ie. "If" I do this "then" that will happen, or "If" I do this "and" that
"then" this will happen.

We have huge brains so we can think and predict, and act towards an
imagined goal that is realistic, or logically correct.

Rather than just take for granted what they are told as fact people should
test things, research them, or work through them logically so that they can explain why they
they think certain things, rather than just say things as fact even though for
them it is hearsay.

I agree 100% if something doesn't change there will be another big division
in people, there will be the rich and the poor then there will also be the
thinking evolving people and the unthinking devolving people.

Experimenting can be rewarding, but a lot of time is wasted in my opinion by
people looking for what other people say they should be looking for based on
their own often mistaken beliefs.

There seems to be a replication sickness going around, people want to
replicate things that are not even proven and without proper schematics and
information. Mainly because of what they are led to believe, or allow
themselves to be led to believe, or wish or hope.

In the hunt for over unity, thousands of replications of under unity devices is
just a waste of peoples inventiveness.

Alternative energy and free energy are not necessarily about over unity or
even over C.O.P. 1, true free energy has no C.O.P. because there is no user
input. In my opinion. In my opinion a solar panel doesn't have a C.O.P. but it
does have an efficiency level of environmental input to usable output.

Cheers

P.S. One cannot give to someone that which they already have but refuse to use.

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Old 11-15-2012, 10:28 AM
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Great Video! It really sums it all up.
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Yes you are right I see it in every day life people many people don't think,
they just repeat what others tell them. All the stuff on the news ect. where
there are fitness or health people trying to lecture the general public by telling
them if they don't exercise they will gain weight, there are people telling
people what to eat, what to drink, how to cook, how to exercise, they even
tell people what they want and people lap it up, they say oh you really want
one of these you gotta have one of those blah blah. But it is a result of
people being too lazy to think. It happens with almost everything. If anyone
tries to think for themselves and it goes against the "conditioning" they get
shunned or abused.

Logic and common sense (not the best description not so common anymore) anyway
logic and common sense are powerful tools for the brain to use. But effort is required.

"If", "and", "then". ie. "If" I do this "then" that will happen, or "If" I do this "and" that
"then" this will happen.

We have huge brains so we can think and predict, and act towards an
imagined goal that is realistic, or logically correct.

Rather than just take for granted what they are told as fact people should
test things, research them, or work through them logically so that they can explain why they
they think certain things, rather than just say things as fact even though for
them it is hearsay.

I agree 100% if something doesn't change there will be another big division
in people, there will be the rich and the poor then there will also be the
thinking evolving people and the unthinking devolving people.

Experimenting can be rewarding, but a lot of time is wasted in my opinion by
people looking for what other people say they should be looking for based on
their own often mistaken beliefs.

There seems to be a replication sickness going around, people want to
replicate things that are not even proven and without proper schematics and
information. Mainly because of what they are led to believe, or allow
themselves to be led to believe, or wish or hope.

In the hunt for over unity, thousands of replications of under unity devices is
just a waste of peoples inventiveness.

Alternative energy and free energy are not necessarily about over unity or
even over C.O.P. 1, true free energy has no C.O.P. because there is no user
input. In my opinion. In my opinion a solar panel doesn't have a C.O.P. but it
does have an efficiency level of environmental input to usable output.

Cheers

P.S. One cannot give to someone that which they already have but refuse to use.

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good points. You said "Rather than just take for granted what they are told as fact people should
test things, research them, or work through them logically so that they can explain why they
they think certain things, rather than just say things as fact even though for
them it is hearsay."---This is so true. I always say nothing ventured is nothing gained.
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The way i see it is if you do make a free energy device should you let the world have it if its so full of stupid people? A free energy devices will only breed more stupid people like in the movie where peoples lives got easier and natural selection stopped and we kept supporting the idiots so that they can reproduce.

Sorry about the rant but I can't be the only one seeing this? Let me know your experiences with the people of the world.
It is a very tricky question you ask here , ibpointless2

as the tool for your freedom is also a tool for your enslavement .... you should know that it is the same line of thought that our "dear" leaders hold of us "the Sheep" .

will have to think hard on it

my answer

what would Tesla do ?
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We are 'consciously' working to 'counter-act', or 'defeat' natural selection! We are, by our 'social policies', and many other developments deriving from 'civilisation' polluting the Gene pool, with more and more idiots and sociopaths.

I really think the "Darwin Awards" should be used as the basis for a 'Game Show'; with 'contestents' being offered a million $ prize, for the most creative way of permanently removing themself from the Gene pool.
After all, anyone contemplating becoming a contestent would be too stupid to realise the $ wouldn't be of any use to them once they won, (and were DEAD!).

Think how much all those people your talking about, who sit around and watch videos of people hurting themselves and laughing, would LOVEa show of people killing themselves! And, (hopefully) many of these idiots would emulate what they saw, kind of an 'exponential' effect.

Seriously, and farmer or rancher 'worth his salt' prevents plants or animals that have 'undesirable' traits from re-producing; and yet we seem to be doing everything we can, to INSURE that individuals with undesirable traits not only survive but reproduce. And any attempts to suggest that SOME people should, perhaps, not be allowed to reproduce is derided as rascist, or Hitler 'superior race' talk, or whatever.

Saw a news story, awhile back; by genetic testing the state PROVED that this 1 young guy had fathered 25 children out of wedlock, with 21 different women; they waited till he turned 18, so they could 'nail' him for child support; each mother was only able to get something like $1.23 per child, per month, because he was only making minimum wage.

Now, not only was HE a candidate for 'restricting' his 'ability' to reproduce, what about the 'Mom's? And, in particular, it was 25 kids from 21 women! That means there were several women that not only had 1 kid 'out of wedlock' with this guy, but went on toi have a SECOND kid with him! And THEN,turned to the STATE for support; which is what 'triggered' the state doing the genetic testing to detirmine paternity.

So YES, your not the only one to notice, with each generation, we are producing a greater and greater % of Idiots, and there is no stopping it now!
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We are 'consciously' working to 'counter-act', or 'defeat' natural selection! We are, by our 'social policies', and many other developments deriving from 'civilisation' polluting the Gene pool, with more and more idiots and sociopaths.

I really think the "Darwin Awards" should be used as the basis for a 'Game Show'; with 'contestents' being offered a million $ prize, for the most creative way of permanently removing themself from the Gene pool.
After all, anyone contemplating becoming a contestent would be too stupid to realise the $ wouldn't be of any use to them once they won, (and were DEAD!).

Think how much all those people your talking about, who sit around and watch videos of people hurting themselves and laughing, would LOVEa show of people killing themselves! And, (hopefully) many of these idiots would emulate what they saw, kind of an 'exponential' effect.

Seriously, and farmer or rancher 'worth his salt' prevents plants or animals that have 'undesirable' traits from re-producing; and yet we seem to be doing everything we can, to INSURE that individuals with undesirable traits not only survive but reproduce. And any attempts to suggest that SOME people should, perhaps, not be allowed to reproduce is derided as rascist, or Hitler 'superior race' talk, or whatever.

Saw a news story, awhile back; by genetic testing the state PROVED that this 1 young guy had fathered 25 children out of wedlock, with 21 different women; they waited till he turned 18, so they could 'nail' him for child support; each mother was only able to get something like $1.23 per child, per month, because he was only making minimum wage.

Now, not only was HE a candidate for 'restricting' his 'ability' to reproduce, what about the 'Mom's? And, in particular, it was 25 kids from 21 women! That means there were several women that not only had 1 kid 'out of wedlock' with this guy, but went on toi have a SECOND kid with him! And THEN,turned to the STATE for support; which is what 'triggered' the state doing the genetic testing to detirmine paternity.

So YES, your not the only one to notice, with each generation, we are producing a greater and greater % of Idiots, and there is no stopping it now!
Jim
I'm Glad i'm not the only one seeing this. Like in the movie I mention above talked exactly like what you mention of guy who got all those women pregnant. In the movie the incredibly stupid was reproducing like crazy with everyone they could and it spawned more kids that themselves repeat what they saw in the family and produced the same results.

Its a crazy world.
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It is a very tricky question you ask here , ibpointless2

as the tool for your freedom is also a tool for your enslavement .... you should know that it is the same line of thought that our "dear" leaders hold of us "the Sheep" .

will have to think hard on it

my answer

what would Tesla do ?
WWTD?

I like it, but poor Mr.Tesla died alone with no money to his name. Many of his idea's were given or stolen from him and many things that should bare his name as the creator of it don't. There is no doubt about it Tesla was a great man and will forever be known as a great man. Everything he did was for the betterment of the Human Race and we would not be where we are now without him.

I wonder if Tesla walked around thinking everyone was a idiot?
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I know this topic is not apart of "Renewable Energy" that this site is about but I feel the people here are smart. Everyone here is a thinker, a problem solver if you will. So i feel it is best to ask this question here, I feel I'm in good company with other great thinkers here.
Yes, people here are free thinkers but that is no protection against propaganda clouding their minds because unfortunately, we were all brought up with lies from the very start. There are lots of lies in the free energy movement. In life generally, people have a very hard time telling lies from the truth because they lack faith in God - Who is the truth.

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I watched this video and it got me thinking. Dumb! You're Dumb! I'm Dumber! We're Dumbest! - YouTube
Maybe the world is really getting dumber. It reminds me of the move idiocracy where in the future people are just flat out dumb. The #1 movie in idiocracy is a butt. This reminds me of a few people i know who sit around all day and watch videos of people getting hurt and they laugh as hard as they can at these people. I even know some people who think that there is only 12 hours in a day, they really think this.
These people in the video are talking about people getting dumber (which is actually correct) while themselves being deluded by one of the most obvious lies of all time... that of evolution.

They make a very obvious point in the video, that genetic mutations are negative and cumulative. That it peaked about 6000 years ago! This is exactly when the Bible stated the earth and all creation were created in a perfect state. How can mutations be degenerating the genetic makeup of mankind while also being the engine of "evolving" higher life forms? This is an obvious contradiction in their reasoning, yet these guys fail to see it. There has NEVER been one mutation or addition of information within the genetic cell itself, that has ever shown to be beneficial. They are all degenerative.

After the flood of Noah, the water above the earth which protected mankind from genetic mutations was destroyed and UV and all sorts of radiations have been slowly de-evolving mankind. This is why before the great flood of Noah, people often lived near 1000 years.





This is the reason people are degenerating along with all of nature - but foremost being that sin has ruined us and brought death into the world.

The guys in the video are really teaching us to hate each other. I guess that all makes sense if you think you're just an animal.

But yes, mankind (and all of creation) are de-evolving. We were once perfect and eternal --- then sin entered the picture and death and degeneration.

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The way i see it is if you do make a free energy device should you let the world have it if its so full of stupid people? A free energy devices will only breed more stupid people like in the movie where peoples lives got easier and natural selection stopped and we kept supporting the idiots so that they can reproduce.

Sorry about the rant but I can't be the only one seeing this? Let me know your experiences with the people of the world.
Free energy devices and all such things are really not going to do one ounce of good for anyone. Neither will stockpiling food or gold or silver.

James 5 : 1 - 8 Go to now, ye rich men, weep and howl for your miseries that shall come upon you.

Your riches are corrupted, and your garments are motheaten.

Your gold and silver is cankered; and the rust of them shall be a witness against you, and shall eat your flesh as it were fire. Ye have heaped treasure together for the last days.

Behold, the hire of the labourers who have reaped down your fields, which is of you kept back by fraud, crieth: and the cries of them which have reaped are entered into the ears of the Lord of sabaoth.

Ye have lived in pleasure on the earth, and been wanton; ye have nourished your hearts, as in a day of slaughter.

Ye have condemned and killed the just; and he doth not resist you.

Be patient therefore, brethren, unto the coming of the Lord. Behold, the husbandman waiteth for the precious fruit of the earth, and hath long patience for it, until he receive the early and latter rain.

Be ye also patient; stablish your hearts: for the coming of the Lord draweth nigh.


I would say free energy devices fit into this area, though they are good to have like treasures, they will not do anything for you when Jesus returns and you have not spent time getting to know who he is.

We are at the end of time and it will all end most likely within our life time - because those who study prophecy can see the signs.

I am not against free energy research because if nothing else, it shows what a lie modern physics and the state of science are - that they are lies mixed with truth. It would just be cool to just see one working and get out there to break the paradigm if nothing else.

But the only way to real truth and the only way to be saved from eternal death is Jesus Christ. If you aren't putting your time into knowing God, it all really is pointless.... ibpointless2.
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WWTD?

I like it, but poor Mr.Tesla died alone with no money to his name. Many of his idea's were given or stolen from him and many things that should bare his name as the creator of it don't. There is no doubt about it Tesla was a great man and will forever be known as a great man. Everything he did was for the betterment of the Human Race and we would not be where we are now without him.

I wonder if Tesla walked around thinking everyone was a idiot?
and yet we are still talking about him .... in the grand scheme of things ( this planet and the rest ) .... not such a bad feat for a poor lonesome man
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It is a very tricky question you ask here , ibpointless2

as the tool for your freedom is also a tool for your enslavement .... you should know that it is the same line of thought that our "dear" leaders hold of us "the Sheep" .

will have to think hard on it

my answer

what would Tesla do ?
What would Tesla do ? I think he decided the world was not ready for some of his inventions.

So in a world separated into four groups
1. The rich
2. The poor
3. The thinkers, (doers) The smart one's that use their brains.
4. The un-thinkers, (the un-doers) The one's who don't think much for themselves.

What will the poor people and the un-thinkers do when the thinkers and doers
either get rid of the rich people or team up with them ? If suddenly all the
money and the rich people disappeared how would most people survive ?
Oh I forgot they don't think about it.

Even the rich people can't eat their money if the money becomes worthless.
The most precious thing on the planet to anybody ought to be their ability to
think and solve problems.

How often do you hear someone answer when asked why they do something
a certain way with the answer, "because that's how it is done". Monkey see
monkey do. I always try to think of the "why" if I have time and it is not
immediately obvious. It's shocking to hear when asked that many people don't
actually know why they do things, they just do.

It's not really about smart or dumb, it is about those that think and exercise
the brains to common sense and logic and those that don't. The problem with
some thinkers is they use their brains for thinking up SCAMS to con money
and stuff from others. Only the un-thinkers can be scammed by the thinkers
who have turned to the dark side.

Many people see the only way they can make money, is to take it from others
by scams ect.

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and yet we are still talking about him .... in the grand scheme of things ( this planet and the rest ) .... not such a bad feat for a poor lonesome man
Do you really think Tesla would be stopped that easily? It is true he had taken a big bite at the Lions tale in the shape of J.P. Morgan. However the died in poverty all alone in his miserable little hotel room is quite simply wrong.
The eccentric lunatic feeding his only friends the pigeons was undoubtedly “a blind” which proved effective in preventing his assassination (for a while at least) the authorities will still not release Tesla's death certificate so the cause of his demise is “unknown”.
The whole top floor of that hotel was isolated and converted into a Laboratory. Tesla carried on working at his usual break neck speed assisted covertly by his many wealthy friends whilst maintaining a very effective apparent life style change as camouflage in order to foil a few very powerful enemies.
This very well researched documentary puts a very different complexion on the life and times of Tesla
The Borderlands of Science on Vimeo
As for the great man's death and ouch his castration that conjecture is discussed here by Andrija Puharich
A Day With Andrija Puharich - Final on Vimeo
As for considering if the worlds population is worthy of free energy, Its life, its evolving and precious !
the dumb can learn! It is not our place to be judge jury and execution particularly regarding gods freely given gifts and that particularly w.r.t free energy.
I rather regard the question as being can the population afford to leave the the structure of our world in the hands of the really Dumb who operate in secret and anonymously using evil cunning and mind control with drugs assisted by propaganda and banksters ? If the picture the following few video's paints is even partially correct we need a radically different system quickly and certainly not the NWO
National Debt Clock too small (USA) - YouTube
The Energy Non-Crisis- Lindsay Williams -Truth about Oil and Oil prices - YouTube
Confessions of an Economic Hit Man - YouTube
Confessions of an Economic Hit Man - Part 2/3 - YouTube
Confessions of an Economic Hit Man - Part 3/3 - YouTube
EndGame HQ full length version - YouTube
Walter Graham offers one theory about the rush to fluoridate Ulster's water. 'In 1976 Margaret Thatcher suggested fluoride for Northern Ireland. German research shows fluoride has mind-controlling properties. It made people lethargic. Remember, Mrs Thatcher has a chemistry degree. So why should she suggest fluoride for Northern Ireland?'
Because Northern Ireland was out of control? Mr Graham gave me a knowing look".

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News headlines: "THRIVE" MOVIE: DON'T FALL FOR IT!
Thrive full movie - YouTube
of course these video's are dated America now admits to huge oil and gas reserves. (the truth will out)This in a way is even more frightening as it seems to almost guarantee a huge conflict ahead in order to maintain the status quo

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The way i see it is if you do make a free energy device should you let the world have it if its so full of stupid people? A free energy devices will only breed more stupid people like in the movie where peoples lives got easier and natural selection stopped and we kept supporting the idiots so that they can reproduce.
I think also, it's just we live in relatively "easy" society (despite economic problem ,crisis, etc, etc).

This is because we live in a "modern" society, it's a leisure society.
It's cool to be dumb instead being intelligent, well educated having good mores, values, etc, etc...
(See TV program, advertisement, the education system who is dumbed down and doesn't encourage reflection, if you want to get brainwashed go to university... )

You can add the constant "feminization" of the society since decade which is another societal illness of our "modern" society: privilege female "values" instead of male "values" (competitiveness, rigorousness, work, constancy, etc, etc).
Have read the persecution of Eric Dollard ? It was not done by Men In Black but Women In White (see the connection with the powerful feminist lobby and you will understand it.)

The spirit of "you feel it, then do it" is also responsible of this.

Also chemical substance dumped in the environment since decades like endocrine disruptor, drugs, etc, etc doesn't arrange things.

Personally when I see the current state of the world I see no hope for the future: humanity is depraved like hell even if i'm only 25 years old...
That's why I think more and more to let the humankind collapse herself and rebuild the civilization... Why to give FE device in a such depraved society it will be a curse rather than a benediction.
Many civilization have collapsed in the past even one who was advanced materially and scientifically, being advanced scientifically is NOT a guarantee for the sustainability of a civilization...
If one day our civilization collapse, I will not drop a tear, I will not regret it...
Sorry for my English: I'm French, SRM.

Edit: If read this you will think that I'm again one of those "freaking" believer, (which I'm proud of it) being a believer is a "sin" in our current world, but here I haven't used religious reference to expose my views, even an Atheist can draw the same conclusion: just observe around yourself.
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A Day With Andrija Puharich - Final on Vimeo
As for considering if the worlds population is worthy of free energy, Its life, its evolving and precious !
the dumb can learn! It is not our place to be judge jury and execution particularly regarding gods freely given gifts and that particularly w.r.t free energy.
I rather regard the question as being can the population afford to leave the the structure of our world in the hands of the really Dumb who operate in secret and anonymously using evil cunning and mind control with drugs assisted by propaganda and banksters ? If the picture the following few video's paints is even partially correct we need a radically different system quickly and certainly not the NWO

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, been a while , good reading you ..... It seems we are on the same page concerning Tesla's life and the rest

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Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme. Rabelais

Science without Conscience is but the ruin of the soul


ps: the fact that you are alive is Science at work
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Back to the original question... you only see evidence of increased polarity, which is evidence of increased energy. Yes, many people see the same things.

Now. It doesn't matter. You don't have to involve stupidity in your life, so stop it. Find another focus, see something else than stupid people. See what you are looking for instead.

As long as you recognize and label people as stupid, you're stuck in this world surrounded by stupid people, because you find what you expect and it is yours to keep.

You must find your own answers. In this question, your answer is that you are surrounded by morons and you wanted confirmation. Your'e welcome, creation answered your call.

Wanna change that? Redefine your question and your answer. What do you want to be surrounded of? Figure it out and start looking for it. What you find is yours to keep. The more you find the more will come. If you wish to be a searcher, you will keep searching. If you wish to be a finder, you will find things. If you wish to be a moron, there's Youtube clips with people getting hurt 12 hours a day, and people watching it who you can watch while they do it
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Walter Graham offers one theory about the rush to fluoridate Ulster's water. 'In 1976 Margaret Thatcher suggested fluoride for Northern Ireland. German research shows fluoride has mind-controlling properties. It made people lethargic. Remember, Mrs Thatcher has a chemistry degree. So why should she suggest fluoride for Northern Ireland?'
Because Northern Ireland was out of control? Mr Graham gave me a knowing look".
Good post Duncan, as are others here.
Also flouride is not the only water distributed chemical capable of either 'controlling' people, or shortening their 'pension' lives. What about Aluminium Sulphate which poisons bacteria and adds sparkle ?

Hence a water distiller MUST come before 'free energy' for anyone wishing to preserve their ability to *think* about making same !!!!!

When I develop 'free energy' will I publicly share the plans ? No way.
Why ?
Because the techno fascist PTB devolvers are maintaining a society blind to the fact that they are being 'common purpose' controlled.

Cheers ............ Graham.
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Hence a water distiller MUST come before 'free energy'
Good point, fresh water is necessary. Coconut oil, and curry in combination with blackpepper, can help a lot to turn around some of the effects. Don't forget lots of Iodine too, fluoride, bromide and chlorine uses the same cell receptors when Iodine is low. Look for Dr. John Douillard or other ayurveda health care knowledge. I'm not into the 'healthy stuff' and find it hard to find interest for penetrating these questions, but it isn't pointless in any way even though you might have other goals in life.
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Duncan
, been a while , good reading you ..... It seems we are on the same page concerning Tesla's life and the rest

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Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme. Rabelais

Science without Conscience is but the ruin of the soul


ps: the fact that you are alive is Science at work
, effectively this citation confirm what we are seeing today.
BTW, I'm not anti-science if I was like this, I will not be here or reading scientific paper on the web.
But science is double-edged sword some discoveries and things are good but others are clearly evil, today everything is good or rather there is not no "good" nor "bad" everything is relative... (The current post modernist thinking: moral relativism).
I think it's dangerous to think like that because it can slip into weird direction.

Look at nuclear power it was good (cheap electricity production) the bad (Fukushima) and the ugly (Hiroshima/Nagasaki).
With science the mankind play with the Nature itself and her "laws" if not supervised properly by ethics or moral, those modification can have irreversible and destructive effect. (The fluoride problem above with M.Thatcher).
You can add also Chemtrails...
With FE we could build bombs that will turn Nuke energy into a toy.
Look also at the antimatter/matter annihilation and it's result in energy, its scary like hell.
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Moral relativism used for egoistic purposes maybe is the 'bad' or 'ugly' interpretation of an otherwise neutral state? Good or Bad are cultural inventions, and that is a relativistic way of putting it. But it is still to manifest through a purpose, which may be ego, or for the benefit of mankind, or for no real reason at all. Science says there is a key to everything. But who's the locksmith? Good or Bad, the keys, are all manmade. We have to deal with it and yes, moral exists, relative or determined it still is there. Moral determinism also have it's good, bad and ugly moments. Avoid fear, find the key and unlock
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scared?

Schubert I can understand your fear after all are we all not a little scared of the unknown ?
As is made quite clear in the video's I posted fear is also used on a massive scale to maintain control.
Usually with false flag operations. At the moment it would seem to me that the lunatics are not only running the asylum they have started eating their young.
This for public consumption after very costly sound editing....
WTC2 collapse - YouTube
This being the actual footage shot at the time...
cutter - YouTube
let me ask you Schubert what frightens you the most, a benevolent useful force that is at the core of life itself or the megalomaniac Lunatics driving our bus right now? I know what my selection would be!
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Remember who feeds from fear and what fear can make reasonable morally 'good' people do. Have no fear, it's not productive. Don't do this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPy6mgkdk4k
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ps: the fact that you are alive is Science at work
No, the fact we are alive is nature at work and science is simply the study of nature and natural phenomena. We should never confuse the two and nature would get along just fine without us. In fact given what we know we could say nature would be better off without us and our science because the proof we have says we are destroying this planet.

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Now. It doesn't matter. You don't have to involve stupidity in your life, so stop it. Find another focus, see something else than stupid people. See what you are looking for instead.
I would agree, we can howl at the moon all we like but that will not change it as real change comes from within.

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No, the fact we are alive is nature at work and science is simply the study of nature and natural phenomena. We should never confuse the two and nature would get along just fine without us. In fact given what we know we could say nature would be better off without us and our science because the proof we have says we are destroying this planet.

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Thank you for clarifying my thought ..... It is debatable to confine Science to study of Nature or the Language of Nature ..... but we would be drifting off topic

ps: you reminded me of a Great Philosopher :

George Carlin - Saving the Planet - YouTube

Science - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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On the subject of fear:

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From The Universal One by Walter Russell:

Every action has its equal and opposite reaction.

An action and its opposite reaction are not two. Their energies, when combined, make one.

Positive charge attracts positive charge and expels negative discharge.
Negative discharge repels both negative discharge and positive charge.

The fact that electricity (positive charge) expels magnetism (negative discharge) does not mean that it repels it.
Expulsion is not repulsion.
Expulsion is the result of electric attraction which causes electrically charged particles to draw closer together.
This effect of closer assemblage, is a centripetal effect of contraction which squeezes magnetism away from the spaces between the integrating particles of electric preponderance.
The magnetic flow resulting from this squeezing process is merely the reaction of the action of squeezing.

It must be remembered that electricity is the attractive force and that magnetism is the repellant force.
The attractive force attracts only attractive force, which is itself.
Electricity attracts electricity.
Electricity does not attract the repellant force, neither does electricity repel the repellant force.
On the other hand, magnetism, which is the repellant force, does nothing but perform its function of repelling.
Positive pole attracts, negative pole discharge positive force and repell it. Positive strive to become a singularity of everything, negative to become fully evolved entropy.

What does this say about fear?

Fear is a reaction to an action taken by negative repelling force. Action and reaction make one. Fear allows negativity to discharge energy from positive, then action and reaction become one, ending in entropy.

Every action has a reaction. By manifesting the reaction, positive pole will allow itself to become discharged.

Do not participate.

Fear and Love are the forces of nature. Between them is a scale of all existing emotions:

Fear - Anger - Indifferent - Sympatetic - Love

Moving from fear to anger squeezes negativity out of the system, that's true. But reaction to negativity will discharge the system. Anger is a state with higher probability to reaction.

If you do not serve the purpose of being the reaction, the reaction must come from elsewhere. All action must have a reaction, otherwise there can't be any action. Negative force may repell and desintegrate itself as well as repell, discharge and desintegrate you. It doesn't matter as long as it's action is leading to entropy. If you're not a part of it, you will not be part of that entropy.

If nobody care, then it's no point in desintegrating skyscrapers. The only thing left to do for negativity when there's nothing or nobody to discharge is to desintegrate itself.

Your action will also create reaction. Be the one who create oneness, who gathers the energy in the same point, growing in charge for each moment. Don't allow discharging by becoming a reaction.
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Schubert I can understand your fear after all are we all not a little scared of the unknown ?
As is made quite clear in the video's I posted fear is also used on a massive scale to maintain control.
Usually with false flag operations. At the moment it would seem to me that the lunatics are not only running the asylum they have started eating their young.
This for public consumption after very costly sound editing....
WTC2 collapse - YouTube
This being the actual footage shot at the time...
cutter - YouTube
let me ask you Schubert what frightens you the most, a benevolent useful force that is at the core of life itself or the megalomaniac Lunatics driving our bus right now? I know what my selection would be!
OMG, did you see the small explosion before the tower collapse, I always thought that it was a controlled demolition (even if I saw loose change movie) but here we see clearly the smalls explosion before the collapse, the second video you hear all the explosion before collapsing, OFMG !!!

And 11 years later people continue to vote: left/right, Obama/Bush, Obama/Romney, left/right/left/right and so on (same things here in my country in France). While the civilization is going to the toilet, people get trapped in their collective delirium (look at people's behavior in big cities: a permanent zombie movie in your face) and continue as is...

For the last question: my choice is evident too. That's why I could see FE in small communities like small spiritual/religious communities, things like small survivalist "village" not our highly centralized and destructive system. An occasion to go out at least partially of the mainstream system and repopulate countryside.
I will stop here because I'm going to be seriously off-topic.
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Also when did it become not cool to read? Why is the "learning channel" have show about someone name "honey boo boo". Why do people want to become like the ones on "Jersey Shore"? People actually think the Sun revolves around the Earth. Is this crazy or what?
Thanks for the thread, i think 99% of the people on earth think that not only the sun revolves around the earth but the universe revolves around humans.

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Interesting Topic...

Hello ibpointless2 and All,

Even though I have already made my decision on what I would do...with a Free Energy device...I will respond here to your main question/concern.

People become dumb because of their dependency upon the Systems where they try to survive everyday ...
Systems are designed to make people dumber every time more...the dumber, the better...till they become (full time) puppets of their games...

Monotony is a typical scenario to harvest dumbness...
Stressed Out Societies (SOS) are the perfect environment to grow uncertainty...
Fear, injected through a Sensationalist Media...are part of the "process"...

Highly Developed Societies...are just a Massive Dumb Factory galore...there is NO TIME to Read...to do your own self enhancing studies and development as a Human...

Thinkers, doers..."smart" people...simply, do not care about those CONTROL games...(out of the BOX Status)...Then they DO all their enhancements...find the time...no sleep, endless nights...but do it.

One of the Main Dependencies of People...are Energy slavery...filling their Gas Tanks every day to make a living...
Controlling expenditure on their Households, trying to reduce it in order to lower their electricity bill$$...but that extends only to the point of Human survival necessities like Heaters in very cold weather, or Cooling in extremely Hot areas...even just ventilation...(example)

I believe We all have same capacities, IF We allow those "smart ones" to develop...and the only way...is to cut off dependency from Systems Negative Influences...

If People get released of ALL those daily stresses/fear/dependency...I believe they will eventually change...and become more conscious about knowledge...search...learn...progress, develop and evolve...

In the end...We are all the same...

I believe it is possible a different Society than what we all have so far...a far more advanced one, where we could afford to dedicate more time to teach/educate/learn >develop...>evolve...

Most of times a thief, a bank robber...needs to do that because it did not worked out well as a typical citizen within His/Her System...most of times they do NOT like what they do...unless is a psychopath...They do it to survive, to bring food to their kids...to their families...they will also change, I am sure off that fact...we see it in many Church based programs and Juvenile Corrections Centers...how they could also make beautiful things...

Most of School Kids abandon their learning facilities too early...(High School)...to start working...to help their parents...or to live by themselves...and I am talking about developed Countries...like United States...
Education Cost$...and most parents can not afford to pay for a College career...
This adds up to the Dumber side...big time.

Even Health...a Human survival main need...cost$...and we will die...if we do not have the buck$ to pay for medicine/health services...so we must do pay for extremely expensive Health Insurance...will everyone could AFFORD that?...the answer is NO.

I believe Free Energy will put a Radical Stop to all those "charges"...for Human main needs...think about all the Energy required to fulfill all those facilities requirements...Schools, Hospitals...etc.

And I have not "touched" Transportation/Machinery...which is a main side to increase price$ of goods, including food supply...

I believe We all could start by making a change...by doing what is NOT being done...give for free...teach knowledge, show the truth...reveal what they have been trapped into...that is the job of the "Thinkers", besides developing beautiful devices...

Nikola Tesla had something besides His Genius side (that most people don't look at)...a Humanitarian big time side...

If the thinkers, could be able to work out/develop, both sides equally...then we will be ready to change this Planet.


Regards to All, and great topic.


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