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Old 11-16-2012, 06:29 PM
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action and reaction

fear, anger, action and reaction, Dumb or dumber ... This actual security camera footage of a very angry South Korean and his invalid buggy seems to contain it all in spades.
Voted the Darwin Award winner of the century you can't help but feel sympathy for the guys frustration one can only hope his death was quick and painless. The link to the 45 sec video is on this web page
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Old 11-17-2012, 09:59 AM
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Ufopolitics & Michael
all you say seems very self evident when you actually take the time to dig just a little beneath the surface. As soon you encounter what you refer to as “life’s essentials” you see the immediate intervention of evil control methods.
You may view this as we humans becoming dumber, but keep in mind we are being subjected to propaganda mind control and are trying to operate whilst drugged.
I think one way for us all to try and become just a little bit smarter is to pick one of these “essentials” and then study the methods that have been used to convert it into a control lever.
Pick water,food,energy or indeed any of the many essentials for life then study the methods used to crush any opposition and turn a free asset into a commodity and then a weapon and a tool for control, suffering, murder and evil..I’ve picked medicine as an example ….

Have you done your best to help medical sufferer's.. aided the cancer Societies, indeed any of the Societies? .. I have … helping the executioner by building my own coffin .. very dumb for most of us Its a hard concept to accept that some thing so obviously dedicated to our well being is corrupted and evil … can you follow this logic..
Humans have been around for about 200,000 years and guess what …. we have survived ! Its been a bit of a rocky ride but the race has advanced in a truly phenomenal way.
For 99.99% of the time we have had no medical system in place, how on earth did we manage?
For the most part by natural healing and learning which herbs, berries and mixtures did what.
Foster Gamble mentions “Harry Hoxey” in that lavish film I posted,he tells us that Harry Hoxey's cancer cure was effective. For the cost of that film with all its special effects why didn't he open a few hoxey clinics or assist the ones struggling to survive ? ITS NOT ON THE CORPORATE AGENDA! .. that's why It does not help their cause !
Cancer has been with us for a long time, our ancestors learnt and developed methods to deal with it, like present day methods they were not 100% effective however they obviously were beneficial, the Hoxey method was very effective but did not allow for corporate control or profit (although they tried) so of course it had to be stopped ! here's the story...
Keeping in mind that a huge part of the new world orders agenda is an 80% population reduction the advance of cancer is a big plus ! The occurrence of cancer is increasing almost exponentially, at the moment 1 in 3 of us stand liable to enjoy it at some stage. The elite of course don’t care they have a certain cure and as a bonus profit from others pain and suffering at every turn.
If you watched the last film you will have noticed the part that Morris Fishbein played in the destruction of the hoxey clinics. Unknown to Harry Hoxey Morris and the corporation bankster's had just previously destroyed another man who had discovered a method to cure every cancer with a 100% success rate … Indeed he returned a whole terminal Hospice “The Ellen Scripps clinic” to good health under the full glare of publicity and the medical authorities.
Alas the optical and wave generating equipment was destroyed along with the laboratories of
Dr Royal Raymond Rife Its a disgusting story but should be taught to every school kid ... the Royal Rife Life story can be watched for free towards the bottom of this web page
www.RifeVideos.com,The Royal Rife Story, Royal Rife-In His Own Words
There is no profit or control involved in the cure of cancer with out drugs or surgery. Fishbein and some lawyers and thugs were tasked with the destruction of Rife and his technology. As usual they were successful.
That terrific microscope would seem to be the end of the line … amazingly it wasn’t, the technology survived ! Only briefly …. In Europe of course … of German extraction ( where it came from) it was picked up by a Frenchman called Gaston Naessens he also could see living cancer ,(like rife) naturally his instinct was to destroy it and assist humanity … what do you think the attitude of t.p.t.b to Gaston would be ? The Persecution and Trial of Gaston Naessens - Appendixes - by Christopher Bird
Gaston Naessens - The Somatoscope - YouTube The story of Rife's microscope doesn't end there some years ago a dismantled Rife microscope was discovered by researcher and fellow member John Bedini here is the story of years of his work and his attempts to reconstruct the machine . It is interesting to note his observations on “Aids”
My Work on Rife you may wonder why the “societies” MS cancer and all the rest who collect millions in virtually every country in the world don’t expose this corruption and bring the technology back out into the open?Their origins explain quite a lot.. this recording will inform (It does take a while to start .. have some patience) I don’t put any money in the “societies” boxes any more and I doubt you will either when you have listened to this ... (seems to take 30 sec or so to start)
building our own coffin ... ain’t we just the suckers! View it as being dumb if you will but In my time I have done sponsored runs in the belief I was helping cancer suffers dumb dumb dumb!!
It seems every commodity that is essential to life has been manipulated and moved into to the hands of the elite “new world order” whilst most of us have been drinking fluoride and watching mind numbing soaps and getting cancer causing Mercury rammed into our teeth,It is clear that all by himself Morris Fishbien is responsible for more suffering death and misery than Stalin,Adolf Hitler,pol pot and all the other mass killers in history put together .
Did they hang him? no! they dedicated a centre to him studying the history of medicine (of all bloody things) I think you'll find that’s the history of medicine according to the AMA the BMA Rockefeller and all the other corporations Fishbein Center
Well we have a glimpse of what they aim to do … I have pointed out how they operate in practice and some of what they have achieved so far. They appear so confident now even the banksters don’t resign when they have crippled countries like Greece or Spain.!
the counter revolution St pauls London Protest 15.10.2011 - YouTube
Do you really think t.p.t.b are concerned about a few dozen people camping in the snow and rain around St Paul's ? Especially as they don't seem to know who the enemy is, how they work and what they are doing .... I doubt it
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Old 11-17-2012, 12:02 PM
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Hi Duncan, great post, there are indeed many things going on that is quite disturbing. When once discovered, it feels terrible to imagine that one should stick one's head in the sand and forget about it. I somewhere feel myself that that's what I suggest, or at least that it's an not entirely wrong interpretation. Whet else than that could support the PTB more?

Well. According to mr Russell we have the wrong interpretation of positive and negative force, as two equally corresponding forces. We see the symbol for yin and yang as a balanced universe. But the symbol are not an interpretation of the universal state, it is a picture of a frozen moment where the sinus wave hits 'zero' and changes polarity in the 'AC' wave of expansion and contraption. Negative is no charge, it is discharge and dilution.

One way of putting it is like David Icke's reptilians, that drinks our fear like Cola. That way of looking at things releases more Cola from our system, which the reptile can feed from. The metaphore of reptilians speeks directly to our belief system, to that TV serie we once watched perhaps. The metaphore become reality in our belief. Even more fear can then be released. By exposing the metaphore of reptilians, the reptilians are served. By exposing the 9/11 'true story' the thought behind that action are served.

Another way of putting it (like Walter Russell) is that positive attract positive and then gets rid of negative, while negative discharge everything that will interact with it, anything that will react to it's action. The purpose of negative is to discharge everything and spread it as far apart as it can. It has no charge, no will to be 'last man standing' because it's purpose is to get rid of itself too, just as everything else. When there's no more positivity to discharge, it's purpose are fulfilled and negativity can cease to exist. This is not evil. This is a necessary counterpart to positivitys ambition to create a 'black hole' by attracting and collecting all charge into one spot. Charge and discharge in combination has a purpose. The one who take action in any given moment controls the outcome of the combined polarities.

There are high and low charge, and different charge levels over or under the zero meridian. A negative action with small impact can only discharge as much, before it gets squeezed off or get it's polarity turned around and intergrates with the charge. A small positive action can get totally drained from a larger discharging potential, turned over into negative polarity and scattered all over the place. A small negative action still has some charge to it, below the meridian but not entirely discharged. A stronger negative potential will have no problem discharging the last energy out of that action and overrun the small negative action in an even more negative reaction. The 'good/bad' potential is determined from the relativeness of the action, not from which side of the meridian it emanates from.


A 'good' person are in a money crush. A friends helps him out, without demands of interest or any return. Good attracts even more good energy, charge attracts charge.

A 'good' person are in a money crush and take a loan from a local mobster. Demands on return keeps changing and raises for each time they meet. The good person will never get out of debt, and may have to do 'bad' things to please the negative polarity. Charge gets discharged and scattered.

A car thief get in touch with the mob in order to have 'rights' to work in the area. The car thief gets pulled in and have to do more and more advanced crimes. There's no way of quitting. Small negativity gets even more discharged by greater negativity.

This is very hands-on examples but the mechanisms are there to see.
A plane fly into a building. People get scared. Reaction and discharge. Some of them discover that it was done by people they should have been able to trust. Reaction and discharge. What's next? To fight the wrong-doers by exposing them? More reaction and discharge.

Negativity discharges anything, good or bad, it makes no difference. If theres potential, it equals it out and spread it by the wind. When all potential is gone, it will desintegrate itself, that is it's ultimate goal.

We are individuals in this world together, managers of our own potential and charge. We can observe each and everyones action, but we have a choice how to react to those actions. If something very bad happens, are we willing to lend our charge to the discharging force? If something very good happens, will we boost that charge with our own charge? What are the initiatives to action that we make on our own, and where do they take us?

Imagine a negative action that recieves no attention whatsoever from higher charged entities. Action must have a reaction. Reaction can then only come from 'deeper realms' of lower energy states that will drain the little potential there is from the negative action that got no reaction from 'above'. The 'beast' consumes itself, drinking it's own Cola.

There is no 'beast' of course. The negative force is the force that prevents us from collapsing into a black hole of everlasting cozyness and boredom. It has a purpose. It have no interest other than divide and conquer, even at it's own expense. It's our duty, as being the charged ones, to balance the forces into a state which we prefer. That is done only by positive action that attract reaction from other positive charge. Everytime we play the game the negative force has set up, every time we go to war to 'defend' something, we are counterproductive to the positive charge. Keep doing good things, stop reacting to bad things. Prevent them from happen by being proactive and never give notice to when you failed to prevent the bad thing, as it will discharge you. If you must deal with negative invasive action do it by taking new initiative, create a new action that will alter the settings and leave the negative action standing alone.

Unless one prefer to be discharged and spread by the wind of course. In that case we thank you from preventing us others from becoming a cozy singularity. More fun this way, in this world of possibility, materia and wonders.
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Old 11-17-2012, 12:12 PM
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Old 11-19-2012, 03:08 PM
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Michael .. Thank you for your response, as you point out I have dared to tell the truth. Walter and Lao well there's certainly much to consider in their phenomenal body of work.
I think I start to understand your direction however its easy to confuse it with what George Carling refers to as “wilfully ignorant” Isn’t it?

"When Hitler attacked the Jews
I was not a Jew, therefore I was not concerned.
And when Hitler attacked the Catholics,
I was not a Catholic, and therefore, I was not concerned.
And when Hitler attacked the unions and the industrialists,
I was not a member of the unions and I was not concerned.
Then Hitler attacked me and the Protestant church --
and there was nobody left to be concerned."

Pastor Niemoller

Same tune different orchestra ?

The thing is this Michael and I really cant remember who said it but
“Be careful what you wish for .. you may get it !
These folks have children and grand children who are going to have to exist in this future they are planning already I believe they know its very wrong! Its not to late the bus can be stopped and everybody can help to turn it round. These are all said and done people Michael, just as vulnerable frail and delicate as the rest of us.
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I wonder if Tesla walked around thinking everyone was a idiot?
Probably not.

Originally Posted by Manly Palmer Hall
All human beings are divided into four general classes, but each one lives in only one part of himself; or rather he minimizes all other portions and emphasizes this one above the rest. The lowest of these divisions is the physical nature, and those who dwell therein are of the earth, earthy; they live only for the gratification of their physical natures. Their idea of heaven is a place where there is food, feasting, and little or no work. They are the Brahmanic Sudras who, born in chains, are doomed to live and die in shackles of low organic quality. The very structure of the bones and flesh prohibits fineness in texture either of body or soul. Their minds are only partly active. Their bodies resemble prisons more than dwelling places. They differ from the finer temperaments as the dray horse differs from the Arabian thoroughbred. Like the former, they live to labor, plodding along to a mediocre destiny. They are the laborers who must in truth earn their bread by sweat of their brows. Give them opulence and they cannot retain it. Give them luxuries, and they do not appreciate them. They are the dark earthy ones who must ever bow before intelligence. They do not love God, for they cannot know Him. They are like the hairy anthropoids, raising their hands to unknown elements.

The second division is made up of the artisans and those who labor both with mind and hand. They are the brown men of the Indian myth. They buy, sell, and exchange. To their basic dullness has been added a certain cunning and some intelligence. Having a mind, they control the mindless. They are the petty shopkeepers and those of a similar class who are gradually exchanging the labor of the hand for the labor of the head. Not having the mental organism with which to reason, they fill the places of worship where thinking is done for them. They are the ones who allow their clergy to decide all spiritual problems for them, feeling themselves incapable of assuming the onus of heavy thinking. As a result, their ideas of eternity are rather abstract and their credulity is utilized as a commercial asset by certain types of minds who consider it legitimate to capitalize on the ignorance of others.

The third class is made up of the scientists. With microscope, telescope, and other apparatus still more complex, they attack the boundary lines of the known and wage war upon the limitless chaos. Those who wage war in the cause of science are mostly concrete thinkers who follow as far as their instruments will lead them and then must wait for instruments still more powerful. Most of these minds are atheistic or at least agnostic - that is, of course, unless they have two standards, one to last six days in the laboratory and the other to be assumed Sunday morning in church. The miracles of theology are incapable of chemical analysis and are consequently taken cum grano salis by the scientific world. Therefore the controversy between science and theology is bequeathed as a legacy to have and to hold upon that helpless posterity who come into the world to inherit the debate.

The fourth and highest group embraces philosophers, musicians, and artists, all living in an abstract mental world surrounded by dreams and visions wholly unrecognizable by the other types. They have reached beyond the world of academic education to the world of creative idealism, which is at present the highest function of the human mind. This world is the dwelling place of genius, of invention, and of the things which lower mentalities can only accept but never analyze. Religiously, these minds are deistic. Most of them are monotheists - believers in one God. Many of them are mystics or occultists, and, although possibly not yet sufficiently advanced to recognize their doctrines, yet belong to that finer type of mind capable of piercing the veil which divides the shadow from the substance.
1. That same day Jmmanuel went out and walked to the sea, where he sat down.

2. Many people gathered around him, so that he stepped into a boat and sat down, and all the people stood on the shore.

3. He talked to them in parables about various things, saying, "Behold, a sower went out to sow.

4. "While he sowed, some seeds fell on the pathway; then the birds came and ate them up.

5. "And some fell on the rocks, where there was not much soil.

6. "And as the sun rose high, they withered, and because they had no roots, they dried out.

7. "Some fell among the thorns; and the thorns grew up and smothered them.

8. "Some fell on good ground and bore fruit, some hundredfold, some sixtyfold, some thirtyfold.

9. "Those who have ears, let them hear."

10. The disciples stepped up to him and said, "Why do you speak in parables, when they do not understand your teachings!"

11. He answered, saying, "It has been given to you to understand the secrets of the spirit, but it has not been given to them.

12. "They certainly hear my words, but they still live and think according to the false teachings of their scribes and Pharisees.

13. "Their consciousness is unknowing and empty, therefore they must first learn to live and think.

14. "What would be better to make them come alive and think, if not through speaking in parables?

15. "Truly, I say to you, life and the knowledge of truth are only valuable and good when they are achieved through one's own thinking or through the resolving of mysteries that are recounted in parables.

16. "As yet humans have little knowledge and no insight, and they are not yet conscious of the laws of Creation and the power of the spirit.

17. "First, humans must learn to recognize the truth and thus to live according to the laws of Creation, so they may become knowledgeable and strong in spirit.

18. "For to those who have, more will be given so they may have in abundance; but from those who have not, from them will be taken what they have.

19. "Therefore, I speak to them in parables, because with seeing eyes they do not see, and with hearing ears they do not hear; nor do they understand.

20. "And in them the prophecy of Isaiah is fulfilled that says, 'With your ears you will hear and not understand; and with open eyes you will see and not perceive.'

21. "For these people are stubborn in their minds and endeavors. The ears of these humans hear poorly and their eyes slumber, so they neither see with their eyes nor hear with their ears, nor understand with their intelligence. Nor do they try to comprehend the truth and the acknowledged laws of Creation, although they would thereby attain help and knowledge.

22. "For the people of Israel are unfaithful to the laws of Creation and are accursed, and never will they find peace.

23. "Their blood will be shed, for they constantly transgress against the laws of Creation.

24. "They presume themselves above all humankind as a chosen people and thus as a separate race.

25. "What an evil error and what an evil presumption, for inasmuch as Israel was never one people or one race, so it was never a chosen people.

26. "Unfaithful to the laws of Creation, Israel is a mass of people with an inglorious past, characterized by murder and arson.

27. "Only a few fathers in the masses of these unfaithful have an honorable past and a traceable family tree.

28. "These, however, are not part of the brood of snakes and vipers who have pledged themselves to the false Judaic faith,

29. "to the false beliefs and false teachings they adopted from Moses who, in turn, had stolen them from the Egyptians.

30. "These few fathers are knowers of the truth and of true knowledge, and they recognize only the laws of Creation.

31. "They became rare in this land, however, and so can be counted on just one man's hand.

32. "They are only a few, and no one's eyes may recognize them, and no one's ears may hear them.

33. "But blessed are your eyes, for they see, and your ears, for they hear.

34. "Truly, I say to you, many prophets and righteous men have wanted to see what you see but did not see it, and to hear what you hear but did not hear it.

35. "So listen now to the hidden meaning of this parable about the sower:

36. "If someone hears the word of truth about the spirit and the laws, and does not understand it, then the evil one comes and snatches away what is sown in their mind. That is for whom it is sown on the pathway.

37. "But for whom it is sown on the rocks, that is the one who hears the word and promptly accepts it with joy

38. "But this person has no roots within, so that which is heard cannot take hold and grow. Rather, this one is fickle and becomes annoyed when misery and persecution arise because of the truth.

39. "But for whom it is sown among the thorns, that is the one who hears the word, but the woes of the world and the deception of material riches smother the truth and the knowledge; thus this one brings forth no fruit.

40. "But for whom it is sown on good ground, this is the one who accepts the word and seeks and finds the truth, so as to be able to live according to the laws of truth; thus the fruit is allowed to grow and ripen, bringing in a rich harvest. One person bears a hundredfold, another sixtyfold and another thirtyfold.

41. "These are the meanings of the parables, whose secrets must be deciphered by the people, in order that they learn to think and develop insights.

42. "Nevertheless, the path to wisdom and finding the truth is long, as is compliance with the laws of Creation, even though these are so obvious."

The Weeds among the Good Fruit

43. But he put before them another parable and said, "The spiritual kingdom is like a man who planted good seeds in his field.

44. "But while he slept, his enemy came and sowed weeds among the good seeds and went away.

45. "As the plantings grew and bore fruit, the weeds also appeared.

46. "Then the servants came to the sower and said, 'Master, did you not sow good seed in your field? Where have the weeds come from?'

47. "He spoke to them, 'An enemy has done this.' Then the servants said, 'Do you want us to go out and pull up the weeds?'

48. "He replied, 'No, lest you uproot the good fruit when you pull up the weeds.

49. "Let both grow together until the harvest, and near harvest time I will tell the reapers: First gather the weeds and bind them in bundles, that they may be burned and the ashes strewn over the field so that the soil will be nourished; but gather the good fruit and stack it for me in my barn.

50. "For behold:' said Jmmanuel, "both grow side by side, the weeds and the good fruit.

51. "The weeds hinder the good fruit from growing, yet later the weeds will become compost and nourish the ground.

52. "Were it not for the weeds being made into nourishment for the soil, the good fruit could not grow, since it needs nourishment."

The Mustard Seed

53. He presented the people with another parable, saying, "The spiritual kingdom is like a mustard seed that a man took and sowed in his field.

54. "It is the smallest among the seeds, but when it is grown, it is bigger than all the shrubs and becomes a tree, so that the birds of the sky come and dwell in its branches.

"Knowledge is cosmic. It does not evolve or unfold in man. Man unfolds to an awareness of it. He gradually discovers it." - Walter Russell

"Once men died for Truth, but now Truth dies at the hands of men." - Manly P. Hall
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"Creation is, at its potential, intelligence in pursuit of understanding itself."

There is a natural flow of expression that is part of the creative plan. It is what you might call unchangeable programming within the human pattern that remains regardless of what purposeful effort is made to override it. Once a goal or objective is decided upon by a personal choice that seems logical and accompanied by a commitment to that goal, it can and is pursued with all possible intensity, even to the point of giving up the life force to death. Methods of torture can and will cause the person to deny and pretend to give it up, but instead it usually instils it deeper into determination to resume the pursuit of its completion at the first opportunity. This is true for those goals that are both positive and negative in their energy configuration. Thus confrontational situations are the logical result. The positive impetus is pursued through logic and the negative experience through inability to apply the law of allowance and control becomes an addictive factor in the imbalance. It is important to comprehend that perfection is the ability to remain in balance in the practice of all the laws of the universe that support the expansive expression of creation. This is a process that gives challenge to participation within what is called eternity. If not for this monumental challenge, eternity could be boring indeed.

Intelligence is not confined to the human brain/mind. It is part and parcel of the potentiality that flows through the process of creation. Self contemplation by any manifested self-aware portion of creation, humanity for example, with a basic understanding of who and what they are in correlation to the expansive flow of creation, can transcend and remove limiting understandings. This then opens the awareness to the potential of new understandings changing the experience of that being entirely. In every way all experience serves the expansive process of each. Because creation is, at its potential, intelligence in pursuit of understanding itself, it is necessary to discern that all beliefs reach a point of limiting the opportunity to evolve. It is then a perpetual process of transcending and leaving behind each and every understanding into greater wisdom. The exception to this is the immutable universal laws that support the process as a whole. At the basis of these changes is always greater understanding of these laws, their utilization and the wisdom gained through the resulting experiences.

Certainly it would seem logical to the inhabitants of this planet that the time has come to transcend the present experience and change the beliefs that have focused creation into the experience of the future as it sits before them. It is far easier to perceive the situation at hand and change the beliefs to transcend the experience before it comes into complete manifestation. The negative polarity experience is brought about by failure to know, understand and apply the laws of the universe. You were set upon this planet without them and denied the knowledge of them. Those indigenous groups who were on the planet were learning them through observation of nature. Through the blessing of eternity, all the time necessary, their evolvement was on its way. Now, even these too have been corrupted. Unfortunately through the teaching of the theme that nature is to be subdued, rather than to be your teacher, you were denied the knowledge that could have been gained through its contemplation as a holographic example of the laws in application.

Is this saying that technology should be abandoned entirely and 6 billion people should return to indigenous living? That certainly would return the planet to 500 million people quickly through starvation. If living in that way would allow understanding of the universal laws, then it would be a worthwhile experience. However, knowledge of the laws from those who have both advanced technology and understanding is available to help, consequently the indigenous alternative would not be necessary. If mankind does not take responsibility to change the present intended scenario and the planet itself is required to change this situation, then technology will be purged and if the planet is “lucky” indigenous populations will again have the opportunity to evolve.

"Knowledge is cosmic. It does not evolve or unfold in man. Man unfolds to an awareness of it. He gradually discovers it." - Walter Russell

"Once men died for Truth, but now Truth dies at the hands of men." - Manly P. Hall
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Duncan, great post again and a great quote from Niemöller.

I too have felt a need to strike back towards what is opposing me, but I have discovered that I'm always striking against myself as much as the opponent. That is the power of reaction. The power of action is what rules the process.

Good forces attract good forces while negative forces divides everything it touches. The only way is being a good force that attracts or becomes attracted by other good forces. Those we consider 'bad' must be considered potentially good and be welcomed in the 'good circle' the day their polarity shifts through influence of our example. While their polarity remain 'bad' we shouldn't react directly to their deeds, even though we might feel sad and want to give help to potential victims etc. Pacifist stuff, basically. Does it work? It's the only thing that works. It is the strongest force of them all measured in equal bits with the 'other side'. It is the side that only has united winners, while the other side only have divided losers. The good side can always grow, from any point it starts, no matter how small. 'Good' cannot fight 'bad' without becoming 'bad' itself, in some respect, in someones eyes. Because the only right and wrong that exists is within the beholder's eye.

First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.

Be the change you want to see in the world.

An eye for eye only ends up making the whole world blind.

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What aggravates me the most about our society at its present level is "Work" or a "Job". People work their entire lives to never own anything, they basically rent their life. This zombie-like performace to this day amazes me! It's based on Energy bills: Gas, phone, electric, etc..

Our race built pyramids that even now we cant achieve. We were advanced in our way of thinking by 100 fold than that of a group of the smartest scientists today. What pisses me off about some inventors is that they keep their secrets to their self, try to market them, sell the patents and seal their lips or they get killed. Every big leap has be subdued due to ones ignorance for monetary riches, Every Time!! If Tesla was such a humanitarian he would have never worked for Jp morgan, one of the biggest tyrants of all time. Crowd funding would have easily helped fund his projects and we would all be energy Independent now.

With propaganda being force-fed and banks lending money they just print, this country is on its final and last leg. Our dollar is printed and distributed by the same people, LMAO and people say this is ok

We are in the Midst of a Financial collapse, countries are rising up against their financial institutions. Basically the ELITE who are also in charge of all Energy, Money and Attempting Food with their patented GMO's have prepared for this. They have underground bunkers set up and want to wage war within one another "Luciferian Experiment". This way of thinking has never worked and has always failed.

This is where you will find the dumb being weeded out, when **** hits the fan these people will be the first to go. They will believe the Fema camps are here to help just like the Jews during the Holocaust. Give it another year or so and there wont be many Dumb people left

I suggest everyone to go buy a gun, you might have to use it soon! Of course Dumb people don't own one lol

Oh and BTW we live in a REPUBLIC not a DEMOCRACY, I'm sick of idiots saying we live in a democracy.
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Old 11-22-2012, 06:22 AM
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I start to view things in the same light, after all the perpetrators of this disgusting progression (and of course I have only outlined the medical industry even though all of the essentials of life have a similar story) are “potentially good” I can believe that ! I also start to see that an entirely new system is required where by our wealth is gauged by what benefit we are to our fellow man. That sounds easy but its a concept never achieved..
We are being aggressively Dumbed down by methods already pointed out however I doubt even the top layers of this “food chain” would appreciate the hell hole built on evil murder cunning and corruption they had planned.
Indeed Michael I like to think the Bus is already involved in an emergency stop. Its going to take very big people to acknowledge what has been done, Its going to take bigger people to forgive it.
Its going to take all the people to push this bus slowly back up the hill.I like to think that is starting to happen because

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Old 11-22-2012, 08:10 AM
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I think the same as you about this! The wrong deeds that make us feel bad and wanting to react against it, is the invitation to participate in the work of the dividing force. It is not evil really, it is dividing. From our ideas of morale, we might interpret it as evil.

The hard bit is to raise above reaction, to take actions that isn't an answer to our feelings about the things that disturb us. To take action that makes us become the change we want to see.

From a distance, in the eyes of someone who is very angry about the foul things that happen, such action might appear as 'wilful ignorance' because it has nothing to do with the main problem. That's the whole point, it isn't a reaction, it is a new action and a new 'power game' setup that unites positive force.

If strong foul action isn't met by weaker positive reaction which it can discharge, it still will have a reaction but then it must come from somewhere lower, from something that will discharge the last potential it had. Every action must have an opposite reaction, one way or another. From a distance, we would be able to recognize it as 'instant karma' or something like that, 'God punishes those he love' and what not. The bad wolf would be eaten by a bigger bad wolf, if the rabbit refuses to play the game of getting hunted. Some wolves would eventually see that they would prefer to be rabbits, if this is what's going to be the reality from now on...

Lovely picture, I too have notice that small things like that starts to pop up here and there, more and more, it take it as a very good sign... I think that is the spirit to work with in order to create a change. Those who appreciate the message can unite in it's energy, and the world raised a tiny but important little bit in positive polarity. Every single step takes us where were heading. Keep focused on where to go, don't get distracted. Stick your head in the sand if necessary, but keep going.
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Old 11-22-2012, 09:45 AM
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I also start to see that an entirely new system is required where by our wealth is gauged by what benefit we are to our fellow man.
Just want to add a comment to this: It is important to remember that our moral values can distract. We should have morale, 'right and wrong' etc, but it is not originating from the idea of being of service to others. For Israel, it is right to defend themselves. To Hamas, it is right to defend themselves. For USA, it is right to defend themselves. For Iran, it is right to defend themselves and so on.

Another example of this could be Hitler. (he always turns up again and again, I guess it's because there is something yet to learn from the event of wwii)
It is possible to say that he was a man serving to the benefit of others because he gave his fellow citizens what they wanted, but they wanted to play with the dividing force, by dividing people in 'right or wrong', and many other things. He had the power to accelerate that wish and he shared it too. In many ways they made use of the uniting forces too. As a people, they united themselves by the exclusion of of some chosen groups of people. As a leader, Hitler were indeed serving the collective as well as himself. You might say that he fits the description of a man whose wealth came from the extent of his benefit to (certain) others.

The origin of morale might perhaps be found in the scale of fear and love. They did what they did out of fear, starting up a reaction to what things that scared them, and fear belong in the dividing, negative power area. If the force behind the changes then would have been love, we might have been the happiest planet ever right now. That is why love is the key to existence, it is the only force that allows positive force to unite and stay united.

Since wwii and the reaction to what Germany started and the reaction creating the bigger wolves that ate the 'german wolf', we're stuck in the dividing force, although not loveless but also partially afraid. What we need is an entirely new action built from the morale of love to tip the scale in a new direction. It has to come from within each one of us, the divided ones, from the last glimpses of our still remaining positive charge. Then we will be of benefit to our fellow man.

We're fascinated by the advice the religious leaders of the jews gave to their people, 'obey and do as the soldiers say' were the message. How in the world could they say that in the midst of the holocaust, we might think today. Why didn't they at least fight back to the last drop, taking as many as they could with them, how few or many that ever might have been?

In a sense they were. By this lack of reaction, they called upon the bigger wolves, the lower energy, the abyss. They must have known this. A strong action maybe can't be delt with or reversed instantly, a weapon is a weapon, but they let the reaction come from lower realms, the ones who discharges instead of from the ones who can become discharged. Because a reaction must always come. And that's how Germany became discharged and divided in two separate nations for a long period.

We live in their heritage, those who died in the holocaust left us a blank paper to work with through their wise way of going through the terrible event and it is up to us to recharge this world in the name of love, to honour the strength and sacrifice made of those that through all times and similar events has left us with that opportunity.

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Old 10-03-2013, 08:22 AM
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can't be said much clearer ...

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Old 10-03-2013, 11:03 PM
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There was a quote from Einstien in the paper the other day

"I fear the day technology will surpass human intuition for then we will have a world full of idiots."

That's from memory and most likey isn't an exact quote. It was also the solution to the puzzle so I'm not too sure it was something he really said, but true none the less.
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Old 10-04-2013, 01:04 AM
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To answer the original question are people getting dumber the answer is yes. The next question is why? Well we have an elite group of people, well at least they think that they are better then everyone else, and they believe that they have the right to rule the world and we are their slaves.
Here is a little history that starts to explain why we are at where we are today. This is the agenda as stated by William Torrey Harris, US Commissioner of Education (1889 to 1906)

He believed children were property and the state had a compelling interest in disposing of them as it pleased. Some would receive intellectual training, most not. Any distinction that can be made between Harris and later weak-curriculum advocates (those interested in stupefaction for everyone) is far less important then substantial agreement in both camps that parents or local tradition could no longer determine the individual child’s future.
Looks like his plan been a smashing success!

Naturally us slaves are not suppose to be smart enough to question our master orders because that leads to all sorts of problems for them. Thus we need to be dumbed down so we are unable to ask any embarrassing questions. Here is an another interesting quote that us sheeple are not supposed to be aware of:

This reform is not new. It started in the early 1900s when John D. Rockefeller, Jr.’s Director of Charity for the Rockefeller Foundation, Frederick T. Gates, set up the Southern Education Board. In 1913 the organization was incorporated into the General Education Board. These boards set in motion “the deliberate dumbing down of America”. In Frederick T. Gates’ “The Country School of Tomorrow” Occasional Papers No. 1 (General Education Board, New York, 1913) was a section entitled “A Vision of the Remedy” in which he wrote:

“Is there aught a remedy for this neglect of rural life? Let us, at least, yield ourselves to the gratifications of a beautiful dream that there is. In our dream, we have limitless resources, and the people yield themselves with perfect docility to our moulding hand. The present educational conventions fade from our minds; and unhampered by tradition, we work our own good will upon a grateful and responsive rural folk. We shall not try to make these people or any of their children into philosophers or men of learning or of science. We are not to raise up from among them authors, orators, poets, or men of letters. We shall not search for embryo great artists, painters, musicians. Nor will we cherish even the humbler ambition to raise up from among them lawyers, doctors, preachers, politicians, statesmen, of whom we now have ample supply.”
The from the “Army Admissions Tests”
illiteracy in:
1900’s was 2%
1940’s it was 4%
1950’s it raised to 19%.
1970’s it climbed to 27%.

It would seem that our current education system is working just the way they planed it.

Many people have been conditioned to think that what happened two weeks ago is ancient history and anything that might happen two week from now is way to far in the future to worry about. Yet these so called “elite” have a slightly longer time frame. As you can see their planning goes on for years, even decades in advance.

They have long envisioned a two class society, with them the elite on top and everyone else as a virtual slave to supply them with all their needs. Of course that was not likely to happen if there is an informed and educated populace. Thus they set about this degrading the quality of the public school system. Naturally this was done in the name of fairness for everyone. Thus everyone is entitled to and should preferably be forced to be publicly educated. Then the standards to graduate were then systematically reduced for everyone, that way we will not hurt someone’s feelings by saying they are smart enough to graduate.

As a result back then in the 1900’s most people were quite literate and able to read and write fluently. Today about one in three people are functionally illiterate.

So where does that leave us? Well everything you have been taught, everything you know or think you know about the history of the world, religion, politics, etc. much of it is probably wrong. Thus it is time to take of the blinders and start seeing the world as it really is. The truth will set you free, but first it is going to really piss you off.
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Old 10-04-2013, 01:37 AM
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I like it, but poor Mr.Tesla died alone with no money to his name.
Poor Mr. Tesla? He realized his dreams. Later in life he gave up his public persona in favor of virtually unlimited funding to deliver exotic technologies to the American military machine.
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Old 10-04-2013, 07:07 PM
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The peter principle

says that "individuals in a hierarchy tend to be promoted to their level of incompetence, and there they stay". He also pointed out, this Principle can apply to EVERYONE in the hierarchy, even the individual at the top.
For instance, and individual starts a business. Initially, its just them, and maybe their spouse. Eventually, they are able to hire employess, and they are successful, and so the business grows. But, at a certain point, they 'promote themselves' to their level of incompetence; they could manage a business with "X" # of employees, but not 2,3,5 ot 10 times "X".
Now, apply the peter principle to the hierarchy of SPECIES: We humans have effectively 'promoted ourselves' to our level of incompetence; but, will we just 'stay' there, or is there ANOTHER 'principle' (that of 'survival of the fittest', that will come into play?

Remember, the Egyptians who built the pyramids also believed the brain was just an organ, for cooling the blood, and was of no importance. So, when they mummified there leaders, (the IDEA, remember, was for them to be 're-constituted' atr some point in the future) they put other organs in jars, to preserve them, but just removed the brains, and threw them away.

Incredible ingenuity and incredible stupidity, at the same time; THATS 'modern' civilised man!

Been on this earth for 100,000-200,000 years, and yet archeologists say 'civilisation' has only existed for 10-14,000 years. They define civilisation as when man stopped being hunter gatherers, and started staying in 1 location.
We WERE at our 'peak'; we were at the height of our competence, until we made this one, crucial decision, to stop being hunter gatherers. All SORTSof 'uncivilised' behaviors derive directly from this decision to 'become civilised' i.e. to stop being hunter gatherers. War, strife, poverty, employment, competition, class division, increasing population, living in large communities (you can't be very effective as H/G/ers, if your group has 10,000 individuals), the whole system which has evolved where each individual is at the end of a looooong supply chain, for which they are dependent for their 'necessities'. And the list of 'necesities' has grown exponentially, as well.

Collapse of 'civilisation' IS coming, and needed. But trying to build a 'new' civilisation will result in the same mess, again. No one wants to do it, but living as hunter/gatherers, is the way for man to be at his level of competence. In a H/G society, every kid of 6-8 knew how to supply themselves with all their necessities. Co-operation was the 'watchword', rather than competition. No $, no 'bills', and only those possesions you could carry (G.Carlin on 'Stuff!', right on!).

Very few will willingly 'give up' the 'benefits' of our current 'civilisation', and deliberately adopt a H/G lifestyle. Only when forced; the 'homeless' may well be the ones who are ahead of their time, and where the rest of us who survive the coming cataclism/collapse will end up.Luckily, there are LOTS of shopping carts, so no worries, eh? Jim
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No civilization has so-thoroughly deserved having its introverts & visionaries turn their back on it, as this one...
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Old 10-08-2013, 12:31 PM
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Thankfully the thread was titled as a question. I don't think anyone frequenting these pages is qualified to ask nor answer this question. Its difficult not making a mess when throwing stones in a glass house. With that said, I agree with Shanjaq. We have turned our backs on the visionaries, and it wouldn't surprise me if one day they all just vanished, leaving us here to wallow in our ignorance. To which men and women is he referring specifically is the most logical question, and I will just throw up one name. Its one that not many are familiar with, hell, I wasn't as familiar with this genius and his work as I probably should have been. His name was Gabrial Kron, and he had the following to say:

“...the missing concept of "open-paths" (the dual of "closed-paths") was discovered, in which currents could be made to flow in branches that lie between any set of two nodes. (Previously — following Maxwell — engineers tied all of their open-paths to a single datum point, the 'ground'). That discovery of open-paths established a second rectangular transformation matrix... which created 'lamellar' currents...”

“A network with the simultaneous presence of both closed and open paths was the answer to the author's years-long search.”

Is it possible that hes explaining whats taking place in this demonstration? Youtube link below...

There is alot of baseless, talk on these forums...and even more pointless experimentation, major replication efforts in areas where all one is provided with is an unproven incoherent theory, and all this in areas where it is established fact that there is nothing there...reminds me of a cool quote..

"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results"

Albert Einstein

Kron was a man of vision, and had his work been a focus of some of our attention we might have found some pretty interesting things.....maybe...how many of you have seen this on your bench?

Sine to Square - YouTube

Does Kron's work explain what I'm seeing here? Maybe, maybe not....

Lets not waste any time questioning the mental condition of anyone. Directing our attention on a lower level, fixes you to that level while you're observing it...so by calling them dumb, you become dumb.....my opinion...lift your fellow man up.


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