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Jeremiah Sturk use Pyrolytic Graphite to shield his magnets


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Contacted Mr. Sturk

I basically told him I could put him in front of some investors if he had a working prototype. This was his response.

I do have a small example of a device producing energy, it is like a battery
and a very simple demonstration. The full prototype that will produce 6KW @ 6Amps with regenerative capabilities requires several different metallic powders with a -Negative ion hemisphere ties to a +Positive ion hemisphere connected in series will produce clean, safe and lightning like energy. However this will require a 120 ton powder press and a magnetizer to produce. The materials needed are very expensive and I would need at least $1.5 Mil. I am willing to offer a percentage to an investor, but before I will do anything I need help on a different project.

You see I own 40 acres in Montana and I need about $150,000 to finish developing
The land. I want to help about 3-4 families have a place to live and also where we can
grow Organic, Non-GMO food. This property will remain off grid and would be a great
place to build a magnetic energy device! Here are a few links to this first project.
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Free energy motor using a magnet making light.

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Free energy lighting simple and easy using only a coil and magnets plus a small cap. Enjoy

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No battery no nothing just coils and a transistor. Motoring free.



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Magnetic toroidal generator motor

I have searched 1000 times and 1000 times again and I always find new ones.


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Here we have a free energy magnetic engine driven electric truck


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Amigo The Secret is In.

Here is the secret of a "Self Running Monople Magnetic Motor" courtesy of John Bedini's Howard Johnson video's "ENERGY FROM THE VACUUM"

I am not kidding either, this is the answer some of you have been looking for over the long long years.

Watch as the young man replicates.

With what you see from these replicators you and I can build a home generating system.

The magnets are cut and stacked, set on proper angles. Neo ,ceramic, rubber magnet arrays. One set of arced magnets.

In part 22 John Bedini is asked by the audience why his Ferris Where with 16 poles had convex (Curved inwardly) surfaces.

Here is part of your answer. Start spreading the word to your friends who have large multipole units only getting spikes

The secret is out of the bag.


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There is a magnetic gate at the beginning of this track that the car must be "FORCED" through before the magnets take hold and send it on its way. What is the amount of force required (over what length of time....the definition of WORK) to do this vs the work that is achieved at the exit of the gate at the other end? Perhaps before we claim this is the "answer we have all been looking for" we should do a little research and have an answer to that simple question. Hmmmm?
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There is a magnetic gate at the beginning of this track that the car must be "FORCED" through before the magnets take hold and send it on its way. What is the amount of force required (over what length of time....the definition of WORK) to do this vs the work that is achieved at the exit of the gate at the other end? Perhaps before we claim this is the "answer we have all been looking for" we should do a little research and have an answer to that simple question. Hmmmm?
Hey Turion

Yeah that sounds like a winner. Maybe it would be a good idea to let people know that this is the correct direction to go in. No one who is on the inside is permitted to proclaim what John Bedini has shown us in PART22.

I agree, we don't know everything about John Bedini's Ferris wheel improvement. We don't know the exact amounts of force and so forth.

We don't hear about anyone who has done what John Bedini has shown either.

However what we do know is this.

(1) Huge amounts of power pour off of John Bedini's Ferris wheel

(2) John HIMSELF stated that "It would run like that forever"

(3) That the people with Monopole's don't have this with the SSG

(4) John stated Howard Johnson's magnetic gates were the key.

(5) John's Ferris Wheel poles uses specially cut convex (curved in wardly) magnets.

Don't take my word for it Buy Part 22 and listen to John blowing in the wind I guess.

As far as me telling everyone everything there is to know INSIDE the mind of John Bedini, I can't You are the one to help me out?

Also if you look around at the Howard Gates replications you will see more clues. Not all setups were the same with Howard's work, he reminded me of how many variations I have seen of John's work.

These guys are baffling to follow with their endless possible combinations of how it might be made to achieve the same goal.

So yes you are right Turion, I have not made these gates work completely yet and I can't lead the group step by step to build John's Ferris wheel, all by myself.

But let me ask all of the people something.

Do you think John Bedini gave away the clues in 2010 just for kicks, or do you think John was not telling us right? Do you think John Bedini wants us to find the answers?

The man in the video is way ahead because he is following John's lead by building these gates.

John himself gave us the answer and no one can show a set of magnetic gates that flip poles and self run. Other magnet motors around the world self run but I am not looking at those.

I am looking at a Ferris wheel with 16 convex magnetic gates swinging around from floor to ceiling that pass 2 huge coils with no doubt the other half of the gates inside them.

I didn't say I had all the answers, but no one is putting 2 and 2 together anywhere on the web. What I am saying is I believe John Bedini WANTED us to find the answers from the clues he had already given up to that point in 2010 when John shamed the old leaders of the Monopole group from years ago.

I know the answer is there and that it isn't all that hard either.

John Bedini wants us to follow his lead and I don't see anyone giving it the time of day. Do you really think we are along on this forum?

If people knew what direction to go in, they would have a start. They don't.

The people are in confusion, they don't know that what I am saying is correct.

How many decades more should we wait?

I understand your point Turion, you don't want to say something works unless you have it working and I can respect that.

I am talking about the direction to go in for the young guys.

One of the biggest things that really qissed me off about Sterling years ago when he started, was the way he brought up John Bedini's bike wheel, showed it in 2 minutes, said it didn't work and quickly went to another gadget. I never watched him again, I always turned him off.

Are we any different?

We have the answer right under our noses, been told that the monopole has the answers and we are not sure what to do.

THAT is what I am saying. I am saying that this is the way to go. That is all.

Not that I have all of the intricate details.

We work on all these Bi-toroids and double coil this and a two coil that thinking that these coils are somehow different or better than the multi-pole SSG?

The way it looks to me is that John was phasing with the monopole like a BiTT does where reactive power sets things in motion and the multiple coils act similarly to some of these other projects were putter with all day.


I think the answer is staring us right in the face.

Your statement says that the gates have no Overunity potential and I just refuse to believe that.

Thank Turion for hearing me rant.

I will get to the bottom of all of this, trust me on that.

I am of the opinion that there is no better direction to go in than John Bedini's work is leading me.

I will have have a working set of gates.

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Didn't say magnetic tracks had "no over-unity potential." All I said was we don't know if the input is greater than the output. And if it is, by HOW MUCH. I have built lots of these magnetic tracks. I built one with a four foot wheel as a rotor and a magnetic track as a stator that would have self run if I had the money for all the magnets required. But I didn't spend the money because I could see that the issue was the amount of POWER it put out. It could barely keep itself turning, so could do LITTLE if ANY work. The minute you added drag to it by trying to run magnets past coils, it would come to a halt. Like I have said before...getting COP>1 is easy, but it is NOT ENOUGH.

I believe what you had going on in the center of John's big wheel had more to do with the Radus Boots than with Howard Johnson's stuff. That's my guess anyway. When you can turn a magnet off and on like that, you have the potential to really produce some power....and far MORE power than the tiny bit you are going to get from the magnetic tracks. Just my thoughts, and I think the pursuit of the Radus boots technology is a far more worthwhile goal than the pursuit of magnetic tracks.

But each to his own. I have my own projects to completely test, and then I'll have some things to share. Or at least I hope I will. Test results have been good so far.

As to "huge amounts of power pouring off John's Ferris Wheel." Where do you get that from? Where do we see that? John's wheel produced power, but how much is "huge amounts" and where is the data to back that up? I was there. I saw it working. It was an awesome machine, but just how much power are you trying to tell us that machine produced? Facts man, facts!!

We are NEVER going to get where we need to be by trying to hype everybody up. We need to start with facts and data not beliefs and wishes. John's three books on the SSG are a great start. IF you understand that machine, and you understand switching, you are most of the way there. When you add running loads off the potential difference, you've reached the top of the mountain.

The Benitez patents (Tesla switch) work.
Running loads off potential differences works.
Coal collapse to generate energy works....the bigger the coil, the MORE energy you get.
We know LOTS of things that works and we just need to put them together.

When you can run a motor for FREE, what you get out of your generator is all COP>1
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@Turion

Look at the video. Howard is not pushing 14 pounds to get the car into the gates field here. The other video yes, but not this one.

Watch as Howard just lets it go and zero opposition til the car gets close and then the pull is 14 pounds.

Good point, that is a huge difference from other video's.

Nobody else other than John has even come close to this. I can't believe it


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Turion is right. There are some things that need to be considered in this configuration. I have built and experimented with many such tracks in the TOMI configuration. If you run the cart (magnets) in this configuration you have a considerable amount of force to overcome before you can enter this gate. I have found that if I run it in the opposite configuration ( turn the magnetic cart around), that it will not only pull into the gate, but I can configure it to not pull back after it gets to the end of the track. In this way it is truly self running. No need to push it past the gates entrance. It will exit more slowly but the speed and power at which it runs has enough inertia to overcome most of the stick point, as most call it. By having the stator using less magnetic force (smaller magnets), on the end, it will lessen the magnetic pull back on the cart, etc. I don't use a cart, but a roll of magnets inside a 3/4'' pvc pipe . They roll down the track (runway), plywood with two sides preventing the roll form exiting over the sides. The roll must be about 1/2'' to 3/4'' smaller than the width of the track. Good Luck. stealth
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Turion is right. There are some things that need to be considered in this configuration. I have built and experimented with many such tracks............................................ .................................................. ........................................ but I can configure it to not pull back after it gets to the end of the track. In this way it is truly self running. No need to push it past the gates entrance. It will exit more slowly but the speed and power at which it runs has enough inertia to overcome most of the stick point, as most call it.

Good Luck.


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Hey Stealth

GOOD LUCK? Wait-A-Minute. What is your hurry? Who needs LUCK, we have you don't we?

I just knew someone had a set of working gates. What would a guy have to buy to do some proper testing? I have no rubber magnets unless you call the refrigerator door stripe magnets "RUBBER MAGNETS"


All I want is a self running motor Please Just kidding Stealth, I know this will take some effort.

If we could only have an experienced person give us a few pointers. I know many clues are peppered all over the world but they are hard to find

Then when you find them you don't know if they turned out to be dead ends.


Thanks Stealth, you have restored my hope for mankind

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I will try to help you with your magnetic gates. Through many hours of experimentation I have figured out what works and what doesn't. A magnet motor is the same as an electric motor, in that everything works at right angles. By studying the TOMI, you will clearly see that a linear magnetic motor has all magnets on one side facing north, while all magnets on the far side faces south. The corresponding rotor also has a N-S on each side. The rotor must be magnetized on the ends. As the rotor rolls or moves through the track where the stator magnets are arranged, they use a push/pull, on/off, same as an electric motor. At the end of the cycle you must reduce this magnetic push/pull so that the inertia will help move the rotor past the sticky point. This can be accomplished in one of two ways, use smaller magnets on the end, or move the magnets farther away from the rotor. I call mine the butterfly effect. With both ends curved out away from the rotor. This basically eliminates the effects of the magnetic gate. Also you can add a small piece of iron past the stator magnets to help reduce the magnetic effect on the rotor as it leaves the stator. As the last magnet is pulling back on the rotor, the iron is pulling in the opposite direction on the rotor and with expermentation, you can virtually negate any pull from the stator. I mostly use the rectangular ceramic magnets from Radio Shack for testing, although you will also need some round magnets if you want to build a rolling rotor. Good Luck. stealth
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I will try to help you with your magnetic gates. Through many hours of experimentation I have figured out what works and what doesn't. A magnet motor is the same as an electric motor, in that everything works at right angles. By studying the TOMI, you will clearly see that a linear magnetic motor has all magnets on one side facing north, while all magnets on the far side faces south. The corresponding rotor also has a N-S on each side. The rotor must be magnetized on the ends. As the rotor rolls or moves through the track where the stator magnets are arranged, they use a push/pull, on/off, same as an electric motor. At the end of the cycle you must reduce this magnetic push/pull so that the inertia will help move the rotor past the sticky point. This can be accomplished in one of two ways, use smaller magnets on the end, or move the magnets farther away from the rotor. I call mine the butterfly effect. With both ends curved out away from the rotor. This basically eliminates the effects of the magnetic gate. Also you can add a small piece of iron past the stator magnets to help reduce the magnetic effect on the rotor as it leaves the stator. As the last magnet is pulling back on the rotor, the iron is pulling in the opposite direction on the rotor and with expermentation, you can virtually negate any pull from the stator. I mostly use the rectangular ceramic magnets from Radio Shack for testing, although you will also need some round magnets if you want to build a rolling rotor. Good Luck. stealth

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So study the TOMI Humm...





Is this a TOMI track? Or how does this diagram play into Howards work? I think some stuff on the web is a dead end.




I have played with magnets but don't know all of the terms.

I have one of those pancake washer motors with the magnet rotor? I am wondering about you essay on orientation of your setup.

Further way on both endsor a chuck of metal to pull fields overor magnets on the end out farther? You got me thinking.

Right angles for motorsHumm......Right angles from rotor to stator?

Do you have a basic diagram of that jewel? I got to see it to roll it around.

I mean I see a lot all over the world wide web but I am like a wandering blind man when it comes to pin pointing a visualization of your specific brain storm.

I don't doubt you can see it in your minds eye.

Thanks for the start Stealth, I am looking at TOMI stuff right now.

TOMI humm... To all good things there is a start.

What is your youtube handle so I can see it running

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Sorry, but I don't post videos on you tube. Many of the videos on there are fake anyway. It is easy to make a video and dub it so to make it look real. I have built some of the motors that came off you tube and they didn't work, followed them to the letter, too. The two stator magnet sections have their poles straight up, one North and one south. The rotor poles are side to side towards the magnetic stator sections, therefore at a right angle, same as an electric motor. Put a steel plat under the stator magnets to concentrate their power. Put a divider (wood/metal), one third the thickness of each stator section between them. Here is what I consider to be the easiest magnet motor to build to date, works too. It will give you more insight into how magnets interact with each other. This is the Bedini magnet motor. Good Luck. stealth
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Sorry, but I don't post videos on you tube. Many of the videos on there are fake anyway. It is easy to make a video and dub it so to make it look real. I have built some of the motors that came off you tube and they didn't work, followed them to the letter, too. The two stator magnet sections have their poles straight up, one North and one south. The rotor poles are side to side towards the magnetic stator sections, therefore at a right angle, same as an electric motor. Put a steel plat under the stator magnets to concentrate their power. Put a divider (wood/metal), one third the thickness of each stator section between them. Here is what I consider to be the easiest magnet motor to build to date, works too. It will give you more insight into how magnets interact with each other. This is the Bedini magnet motor. Good Luck. stealth
Wow. I never saw this at the ICEHOUSE. Is it really a John Bedini diagram? Or are you giving John some credit here?

This is too Kool. You mean all these decades have past and no one is showing this on YOUTUBE? I believe you are right Stealth with the disinformation groups sent out to confuse folks.

I am with you on the stuff posted in video form. And when some do post a working (At their house) they either can't speak English or can not teach.

Okay looking at this motor I have seen this picture on the web for years.

Not your drawing, I mean this drawing.

But when compared to your diagram we see that things are missing.

In your diagram it looks like to me that the handle object is a sort of counter balancing weight to promote the oscillation as magnets pass by.



Also the handle/balancing weight, I assume made of metal, performs a shielding task that allows the rotor magnet to approach it without repulsion.

Your diagram is more precise.



BRB everyone, we really need to give honor where honor is due. Thanks Stealth. I will be right back to rake this over the coals. This is what we have all been waiting for.

Mikey


Okay I am back Stealth

This is so simplewait or is it?

The handle looking thing is a shield, now I got it. It doesn't move. Okay now.

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Hum....... I got to have more time 1/3 thickness wood/metal

It looks like this forum is stuck Stealth. Everyone is saving this drawing. Thank you very much Stealth.

Also before I go look at this more I wanted to make sure it was alright to send this to all of my friends. I have this in a special place.

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Understanding the magnetic "gate"

I think by now you've figured this out, Mike, but I want to add a bit of explanation for anyone else that may be still in the dark. Imagine some children sledding on the snow on the side of a hill. The sled wants to slide down the hill and just a "little" push at the top of the hill gets you started. From that point you could "go" forever if only you could cut down on the friction. The problem is that you continue adjusting the grade of the slope and waxing the runners, but there remains that pesky problem of getting back to the top of the slope to start again. The "ski lift" is the "gate" or "sticky spot" and you've got to put some energy in to get back to the top of the hill. The only escape from that may be the "twist" in the magnetic flux, but I have yet to see an actual build that gives me enough confidence to drop my "other" projects and try to construct a replication. If you go back far enough in this forum you will see that I tried to build a magnet motor. I was very excited about it at the time. But in the end I did not have good results so I stopped talking about it. With money and better construction technique, I might make a new attempt. But for now, I think I have a better idea and so I am concentrating on that.
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The only escape from that may be the "twist" in the magnetic flux


If you go back far enough in this forum you will see that I tried to build a magnet motor............................................. ............................

I did not have good results
Hi Wayne

I think many of us with a half hearted attempt has fudged a magnet motor or two it is time now to shift gears to positive results, let's focus on that.

Now if you felt that SOME of the data you had collected through testing was worth salvaging, by all means dig it up. I wouldn't have a clue where that data is.

It would be welcome I am sure. Many men having working units similar to what Stealth has shown but there always seems to be a missing part.

Maybe now we can all move out of our down cast junk room into high gear

Many young men would hoover a project such as this till they succeed. Let's not deny them this opportunity to be physically consumed by a worth wile device.

Run Rabbits run.

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The problem with this design is that there is nothing that says the roll of magnets will be pushed Up the hill rather than DOWN the hill from the first interaction between like magnets that repel.
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The four reference names say it all. It was designed with the help of Bearden, Johnson and Cole. Bedini built the motor and did the testing, as well as I remember. The arm is iron or steel which attracts the magnets, then at the point where it travels past the steel arm, the magnet behind the arm repels the magnetic rotor. The steel arm is fashioned in a way so that as the magnetic rotor approaches it, It comes closer and closer to the arm, therefore it moves along in the attraction mode until it enters the point where the magnet repels it. It doesn't show it, but I would guess that a device is in place to prevent the rotor from turning backwards. Also you could add more arms and magnets to make it a stronger motor. The only limit is size and space. I don't know the date at which it was released, but I am speculating in the 1980's. I think John made a reference as to its working continuously somewhere. Anyway it is straight forward simple. Good Luck. stealth
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The four reference names say it all. It was designed with the help of Bearden, Johnson and Cole. Bedini built the motor and did the testing, as well as I remember. The arm is iron or steel which attracts the magnets, then at the point where it travels past the steel arm, the magnet behind the arm repels the magnetic rotor. The steel arm is fashioned in a way so that as the magnetic rotor approaches it, It comes closer and closer to the arm, therefore it moves along in the attraction mode until it enters the point where the magnet repels it. It doesn't show it, but I would guess that a device is in place to prevent the rotor from turning backwards. Also you could add more arms and magnets to make it a stronger motor. The only limit is size and space. I don't know the date at which it was released, but I am speculating in the 1980's. I think John made a reference as to its working continuously somewhere. Anyway it is straight forward simple. Good Luck. stealth

Hi Stealth

I found a site where this information has been for some time now, I just never heard of this before now. I like John B and all of these other guys John learned from.

So you have our undivided attention. Sometimes I hear buzzing in the background but the air noise can be squelched.

Here is that site I should have found but just didn't.

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Bedini advanced motor - 06/08/01


It is at THE ICEHOUSE

MOTOR DIAGRAMS AND LAB NOTES


PETER PEREGRIUS MOTOR


http://www.icehouse.net/john1/hamel.html

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The problem with this design is that .................................................. ........................[/QUOTE]

So did he (John) or didn't he make this run? I need a simple starting point.

You advanced men are light years ahead.

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I heard he did make it run. The problem is it lacks many measurements and tolerances needed to replicate. What is the rotor made of? What diameter is the rotor? What is the stator arm made of? How long and wide is the arm/stator? What are the magnets made of, what size and what strength? What is the distance between rotor and stator? Does it run better horizontally or vertically? At what angle are the magnets attached to the rotor? This the real reason many of these can't be replicated easily. The diagram only shows the actual motor but not he dimensions. This is one of the easiest magnetic motor to understand, but even as simple as it its, there are many experiments that would be needed to get it running. Trials and errors are what makes these things exciting. When you experiment with these things you will learn far more than if I tell you all the details. When I first started doing magnetic experiments, I quickly learned that the information I needed wasn't available in ant form(pre internet). So, I took a year out of my building and just experimented with magnets, every configuration, all difference shapes, strengths, sizes, and materials. After that years experiments and documenting everything, I wrote a book with these experiments. Good Luck. stealth
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I heard he did make it run. .................................................. .. I took a year out of my building and just experimented with magnets, every configuration, all difference shapes, strengths, sizes, and materials.

After that years experiments and documenting everything, I wrote a book with these experiments. Good Luck. stealth
Yes I agree experiments can be time consuming and complicated so documenting questions and answers is important.

Thanks for the run down on what questions I should be answering.

I am very shallow when it comes to understanding magnet motors, other maybe very deep into this subject. When I think about testing magnets I think about iron dust as a means to view results as changes are made.

Did you ever use dust? Did you put any of your magnet sets on glass?

I have found many puzzling reactions within these experiments so I have wondered if most advanced researchers might be using some kind of visual tool.

When I get up to the Radio Shack or Wal-mart I see small ones, like donuts and some square. The kids lost some of them but the 11 year old loves these experiments.

If only I could advance his and my understanding. That is what it is all about.

Thanks Stealth. I saw that huge wheel outside the backyard of someones house and I still think about it often. I think it is a gravity wheel but it could be a magnetic motor as well as it is a gravity wheel.

Did YOU post that? I still can't get over that big wheel.

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A long time back, probably 10 years ago, I built a magnetic device that ran for several weeks, before I didn't have room for it anymore, and took it apart. I hadn't figured out how to get any usable work out of it, but now I can think of a couple ways. Picture a child's see-saw. It will tip back and forth because it has a pivot point in the middle. Whichever side is overbalanced will tip down until it hits the ground. When one end is on the ground it resembles a long ramp with a pivot point in the center.

I put magnets in repulsion along both sides of half of the ramp (see saw) so it forces a roll of magnets to move up the ramp past the center point. The see-saw will tip, and the roll of magnets will now roll down the other side. The weight of the magnets in the roll would cause this side of the see-saw to tip down, where it should now come into alignment with magnets along THIS side which will force it back up the hill and past the center point again in the opposite direction. The see-saw would tip back and forth as the roll of magnets went up and down. This up and down movement will move the ramp into and out of alignment with the magnets on the side, I actually had wheels on my roll of magnets, but not out at the end. I also had HO scale train track on my ramp.

You could connect at the center pivot point to do usable work. The heavier the roll of magnets, the more work it will do. If this were designed like the linear magnetic gates that have been shown here, each half would be in repulsion mode sending the magnets in the opposite direction. An advantage would be that you can have a big POWERFUL magnet on each end that sends the moving magnets back in the other direction.

Just an idea...I should mention that one flaw in the design was that as the ramp came down and the magnets that were in repulsion came closer to each other, it would often "lift" the wheels off the track. I never figured out a way around this, although now I can think of a couple.

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Your see-saw machine sounds familiar to one I designed several years ago, although mine was more like the drinking bird. With a magnet on the bottom and one on the top. Whenever the long lever(neck) would go up and down it would encounter the magnets at the end of each stroke causing the magnet on the lever to flip polarity, therefore sending it in the opposite direction. I also designed one to run on water with the same principle. Although I haven't built either one, I have run simulation on them and they should work as designed. The problem with this design is that it would take the better part of most peoples yard to build and run with enough energy to power a generator, or you could use a magneto like a windmill and produce power off the moving arm. Both of these designs should work great. I got frustrated with Radio Shack and started ordering my magnets. Seems they were always running out of them when I wanted to buy some. Good luck. stealth
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