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Old 10-26-2015, 01:39 PM
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A similar patent to the one from Figuera in 1902 has appear in OU forum

https://www.google.com/patents/CA2357550A1 by Bud T.J. Johnson (in 2001)

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Old 11-30-2015, 09:06 AM
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I think this is an easy way to get the two opposite signals: using a magnet (or DC inductor) + AC signals to modulate the strength of the final magnetic field. While one field is increasing in strength (adding the magnet field plus de AC magnetic field) the other field is decreasing in strength (the AC field substracting from the magnet field). Later, when the AC is reversed, the situation is the contrary in each inducer. You will get two opposite signals.

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In case that the correct configuration need same poles facing each other, maybe it could be better to order the electromagnets poles and induced coils in such a way to maximize the magnetic strength of the electromagnets and reduce the open magnetic path of the magnetic lines jumping from one core to the next one: I mean using rectangular induced cores and pilling up all of them close to each other. With same polarity confronted I tend to think that magnetic lines just will be expelled from the induced core when they crash in the center. I think it will not be leakage between adjacent induced coils because the reluctance of air is much much higher than that of the iron core and magnetic lines will jump from one core to the next one when they are forced by the confronting field.

What dou you think? It is another variation to test which may enhance the system performance. Just my thought.

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Old 12-15-2015, 11:01 PM
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An user in the OU.com forum developed a simple circuit to create the two opposite signals just by using two transformers with intermediate tap and a diode bridge. It is very simple:

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It´s interesting that in Richard Willis patent WO2009065219A1 (Magnacoaster – Vorktex) he also used two lateral magnets with their north poles confronted. And a coil in between both magnets...

I think that Willis is using the same principle that Figuera but in a more complicated implementation: moving the field lines which cut the wires of the induced coil (flux cutting induction, as in common generators)

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Old 01-04-2016, 11:02 AM
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This is how Figuera defined or undefined the polarity. Rectangle N and rectangle S.


"SUPPOSE THAT ELECTROMAGNETS ARE


REPRESENTED BY RECTANGLES N and S ".






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Most of Figuera patents I have read are about opposite poles in attaction mode. I think it was so obvious that didn't required attention.
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Maybe it is not so "obvious" as you think. The reality is that the polarity is not defined explicitly in the 1908 patent. Nor in any of the 5 latter patents by Buforn. Maybe it was just a patent notation trick. You are free to take the conclusions you prefer.

Web with all the info about Clemente Figuera: The enigma of Clemente Figuera and the machine of infinite energy
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This is for lazy people who dislike to see the whole video of 13 min. This is a summary of just 2 min.


Keep off this link if you think that "rectangle N" means North and "rectangle S" means South:

https://vimeo.com/155371936





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For those newcomers I recommend to start reading in page 28 and forward. Also read the link in my signature below
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Summaryzing the last recomendations discussed in OU dot com forum for building the device I post here a list of those features:


- Short induced core to make sure of the field crosses the whole length of the core. Core size matters. Sufficient transversal are is needed for the used magnetic flux.


- No use of a closed magnetic circuit


- Use the primary winding of a MOT (microwave oven transformer) also as the winding for the induced coil (thick wire in the secondary)


- Use of straight cores (instead of E cores) in order to avoid the inducer field from jumping to a near opposite pole


- Use of two or mor sets -instead of just one set- to enhance the output, and arrange the poles to have always the same pole toward the induced coil (all north poles or all south poles)

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Wow. This reminds me of William Lyne's description of....

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This is for lazy people who dislike to see the whole video of 13 min. This is a summary of just 2 min.


Keep off this link if you think that "rectangle N" means North and "rectangle S" means South:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2qwR6yNe58



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...Tesla's Special Generator in which compressed air from liquefied air tanks drove a reciprocating piston no more than a sixteenth of an inch to fuel an Electro-U Boat during WWII 30k miles without a recharge and for every pound of iron added to the device, some horsepower was added. Hmmm. I'm no electronics expert, but maybe the reciprocating movement of your proposed magnetic field looks similar to Lyne's description? Hmmm. Maybe this is too simplistic a viewpoint to be of any use?
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Some users in ou forum seems to go for a two sets device , instead of just a single set, stating that both sets have some kind of mutual interaction and a multiplying effect appears





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Opposite polarity coils

This video seems to corroborate Hanon's claims of having opposing magnetic fields...he gives interesting and anomalous observations...please forward to 1 hr 16 minutes in the video



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SCALARBEAMER. Two magnets in repulsion

SCALARBEAMER

See how both fields oscillate. Collision and movement back and forth.

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Old 05-19-2016, 08:10 AM
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Rectangle N ?
Rectangle S ?



Figuera nevers used the words "north" or "south" in his 1908 patent. It is important to realize of this fact.
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Look how the VTA by Floyd Sweet was supposed to be designed…





And also the Magnacoaster by Richard Willis (Patent WO2009065219A1) ...

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Old 07-20-2016, 06:02 AM
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After studying the Figuera and Buforn patents for over a year I have come to a few conclusions regarding this particular patent. It has some good points and bad points.

The magnetic flux inducing the current can be much stronger, more ampere turns, potentially higher output.

No expensive electrical steel or soft iron required.

There is no iron in the armature and the armature is not part of the magnetic circuit.

Lower induction losses in the armature compared to toothed barrel wound armatures.

No eddy current losses in the armature core.

Possibly little or no concern for 'back ampere turns' in the armature.

However, since the armature rotates there will be some power consumed to accomplish that. Also increased amp turns also means higher copper costs, but since x amount of amp turns will induce x amount of current I question whether that is a real improvement. In this design the air gaps in the magnetic circuit are much greater so the reluctance will be much higher and require more amp turns to begin with. Perhaps that is what necessitated the dual coils to begin with? Maintaining rigidity in the armature windings also looks like it could be an issue.

Whether the advantages of this design outweigh the disadvantages is questionable at this point, but I look forward to your results.

I have a feeling that Figuera wanted a patent to sell and he built a generator like this, but I believe his later patents and those submitted by Buforn were improvements on this idea.

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You do not have to increase the amps turn. Just utilise serially connected Multifilar wire and you will get Enormous Amount of Flux. Same lent of wire divided into 20 or 200 strands twisted together and now connected to get her in series and use that to make your primaries.
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Old 07-20-2016, 06:12 AM
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Hi Wonju,

I have been reading the PDF and can understand most of it.

The one item I would appreciate some clarification on is the fixed
cylinder "G" with the connections 1 to 16 that connect to the brushes.

The bridging contacts and the brush arrangement are what I am unable
to visualise.

Any help appreciated.

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Forget about Part G, use AC from a Pure Sine Wave inverter. Use high frequency which requires your inverter center tapped transformer must me be made with Moulded core which is always high frequency.
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Old 07-20-2016, 06:21 AM
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You do not have to increase the amps turn. Just utilise serially connected Multifilar wire and you will get Enormous Amount of Flux. Same lent of wire divided into 20 or 200 strands twisted together and now connected to get her in series and use that to make your primaries.
I can stack 3 spools on one post to get up to 18 strands but I have
to pull the wire back much further down the hall way so as to keep
the length of each conductor the same.

Thane Heins also uses the coil winding formula you laid out here.
He calls his coils REGENX coils. Other put their names on this Tesla
innovation.

Have you seen my coil winder in action? This is one of few winders
posted on youtube tho I am sure more exist and some pay to send
out to coil winding companies.

Have you ever wound a coil like this?


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Old 07-20-2016, 03:19 PM
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WRONG ! Where do you see armature rotating ? The essence is that NO SINGLE IRON part is rotating ! That's what let us "don't kill the dipole" because N S N S N S electromagnets are in steady state position, never changed but forced mechanical action. That is precisely stated in the patent.....the 90% or more of mechanical energy is used to overcome magnetic attaction and repulsion due to lenz law and that point is eliminated as indirectly Figuera stated.
Surprisingly the later patent is nothing more then eliminating the last minor problem..... Got it ? there is really nothing complicated (except it require precise mechanical skills to replicate it)
"Precise Mechanical Skills To Replicate It." WORD!!!!!!!!!
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Any experienced electronic guru here ? I have a few questions.
Do you have pure sinewave inverter schematic with variable frequency and voltage output ?
How can it be simulated with HV transistor amplifier ?
Can the shape of electronic signal be easy modified even if that shape is not a simple variation of sine or square or triangle but some special timing of some partial signals ?
Can transistor amplifier amplify a rectified sinewave signal ?
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I can stack 3 spools on one post to get up to 18 strands ..................

Have you seen my coil winder in action? This is one of few winders
posted on youtube tho I am sure more exist and some pay to send
out to coil winding companies.

Have you ever wound a coil like this?

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Any experienced electronic guru here ? I have a few questions.
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"Precise Mechanical Skills To Replicate It." WORD!!!!!!!!!
We might be talking to a translating machine or some who can only
say the words they are use to that can be translated. It doesn't seem
like this is a real person because they are deaf. Or they can not hear.

So many live in fear of their peers and will not open up for evaluation.
DareDiamond is no different than 99 percent of those who are members
yet never exchange thoughts.

Like I said before, only a handful of men left who do not live in fear
who speak their minds. Ask a question, try to engage a conversation
and the people curl up in sheer revolt.

So sad. The world is so divided
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What are you talking about ? If something I said is not clear that it's due to language barrier, because English is not my first language and I operate the limited amount of words.
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We might be talking to a translating machine or some who can only
say the words they are use to that can be translated. It doesn't seem
like this is a real person because they are deaf. Or they can not hear.

So many live in fear of their peers and will not open up for evaluation.
DareDiamond is no different than 99 percent of those who are members
yet never exchange thoughts.

Like I said before, only a handful of men left who do not live in fear
who speak their minds. Ask a question, try to engage a conversation
and the people curl up in sheer revolt.

So sad. The world is so divided
Well I earlier choose not to give you a reply because I see.you are not open to suggestive advice.
You are asking me if have build a generally common machine which I readily have a version of as if that is the prerequisite to offering you freely a working advice.

And finally, you justified my thought about you reasoning and acting childishly.
How RUDE you are!!!.
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Well I earlier choose not to give you a reply because I see.you are not open to suggestive advice.
You are asking me if have build a generally common machine which I readily have a version of as if that is the prerequisite to offering you freely a working advice.

And finally, you justified my thought about you reasoning and acting childishly.
How RUDE you are!!!.
Yes I am open for a conversation/advice. I see you have a winding and
think your input so far is excellent. I like
to get the group exchange.

I am open to your machine. Great that you post these pictures
of your work. Excellent.
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This is from a 2012 version of Patrick Kelly ebook, chapter 3, about Richard Willis generator and a simplified version done from a user called silverhealtheu.

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Richard Willis Generator

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The input power supply is fed to an electromagnet but is converted into a pulsed supply by the use of an interrupter switch which may be mechanical or electronic. As can be seen, the arrangement is particularly simple although it is an unusual configuration with the electromagnet core touching one of the permanent magnets and not the other. The magnet and electromagnet poles are important, with the permanent magnet North poles pointing towards the electromagnet and when the electromagnet is powered up, it’s South pole is towards the North pole of the permanent magnet which it is touching. This means that when the electromagnet is powered up, its magnetic field strengthens the magnetic field of that magnet.

There is a one-centimetre gap at the other end of the electromagnet and it’s North pole opposes the North pole of the second permanent magnet. With this arrangement, each electromagnet pulse has a major magnetic effect on the area between the two permanent magnets


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Silverhealtheu

One of the EVGRAY yahoo forum members whose ID is ‘silverhealtheu’ has described a simple device which appears to be not unlike the Richard Willis generator above.

The device consists of an iron bar one inch (25 mm) in diameter and one foot (300 mm) long. At one end, there is a stack of five neodymium magnets and at the opposite end, a single neodymium magnet. At the end with the five magnets, there is a coil of wire which is strongly pulsed by a drive circuit. Down the length of the bar, a series of pick-up coils are positioned. Each of these coils picks up the same level of power that is fed to the pulsing coil and the combined output is said to exceed the input power.





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Look for the similarities with Figuera... All is about distorting the magnetic fields between two confronted magnets or electromagnets configured in repulsion mode.
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And if you need more facts please read this chapter 22 in P.Kelly ebook: (edited: currently PJK located that chapter in the 18th chapter of his ebook)

Overcoming the Lenz Law Effect , by Vladimir Utkin.

Vladimir Utkin and Lenz's Law




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And if you need more facts please read this chapter 22 in P.Kelly ebook:

Overcoming the Lenz Law Effect , by Vladimir Utkin.

Vladimir Utkin and Lenz's Law




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Originally posted by matu at OU regarding the Figuera magnetic circuit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Crq9j-f6Z7g

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