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Old 09-24-2014, 07:38 PM
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I think the picture in the patent looks like a view from the top. And then all coils are wound in the same plane, and core legs (hidden, obscured) going in the Z axis so looks like a 3 phase xformer config to me as to core geometry.
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Hi,

I have found another device based on MAGNETIC REPULSION. It is called Gap Power.

The device consists of two lateral groups of permanent magnets and one intermediate permanent magnet in repulsion mode. It has two lateral coils with are fed with pulses in order to act as "magnetic switch" of the lateral permanent magnets field. The idea is to block the magnetic field of each group of magnets: while one group is pushing the other group is blocked. Then the action is reversed and the intermediate magnets is swung back and forth. The author states that it is an overunity motor. He calls the effect as Magnetic Amplification and Neutralization.

- Two lateral magnetic fields (oscillating / alternating)
- One intermediate device to capture those oscillations

Do you see, for any chance, some similarities with Figuera´s generator?


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Hi all,

I have uploaded a video with the foundation of the Figuera generator based on two poles in repulsion mode. It is a very good video. I recommend you to look for 10 minutes to watch it. I explain why Figuera did not define clearly the pole orientation, and how he emulated a common generator in a motionless device.

The whole interpretation of a device to create a "virtual motion" by using the repulsion between 2 electromagnets and the movement back and forth of their fields:

https://vimeo.com/155371840


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Old 10-06-2014, 06:37 PM
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@Hanon

Indeed, a sensible hypothesis! How close to a proof are you?

I shelved my attempt with the 'Figuera' a few months ago after I discovered another Lenzless alternative.
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The whole interpretation of a device to create a "virtual motion" by using the repulsion between 2 electromagnets and the movement back and forth of their fields:

https://vimeo.com/155371840
Hi all,

I attach here the slides of the video into a PDF file.

Video Slices in PDF

Also I have uploaded the video with the audio in spanish: https://vimeo.com/155371841

Just a funny coincidence: Have you notice that Figuera generator is like the Ying Yang?

Two opposite forces in movement but in balance: when one is at maximun the other is at minimun

Keep the balance !!



Animated Gif with the generator in repulsion mode:
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Old 10-21-2014, 10:14 PM
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The VTA from Floyd Sweet seems to have used also two electromagnets in repulsion (North- North) to modulate the magnetic field and create a virtual motion of the field lines. Please check this link. It has some interesting sketches:

Floyd "Sparky" Sweet - VTA Replication Project - Update 18-01-10

I copy here a couple of sentences from that page:


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"No Lenz Law is exerted on the Input Coil from the Output Coil"

"Input is less than to be expected"

"We don't have the necessity of separating Flux (Flux Linking Law E=-dPhi/dt) we only need to modulate Flux (Flux Cutting Law E=B·v·l) and this can be done with very little power like Floyd said all those years back"
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Hi All, When 2 of the same poles approach each other, the waves get distorted..they push away from each other in various direction, the opposite poles concentrate the lines down to nothing, a central plane.
Rotating the fields of the magnets , with coils pulsing between attraction and deflection....should do it.
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Old 10-22-2014, 10:55 PM
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Many many months ago a user (as soon as nov-2012) posted an interpretation of the motionless 1902 patent, patent 30378, also using poles in repulsion mode: N-N or S-S. In that time, as we were just looking for N-S poles, I missed that post because I could not understanding why he used two induced coils and why he confronted two North poles.

Now, while re-reading the forum, I found this post and now I can see his idea.

Basically this user is proposing to use also like poles facing each other (in repulsion) in the motionless 1902 patent. As the magnetic field crash in the central zone between electromagnets he suggests to place two induced coils. One at each side in order to capture all the magnetic lines which go to one and to the other side.

If you just use one induced coil the resulting induction will be null because one part of the coil is induced in the opposed direction to the other part. This is his explanation:

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I am alternately powering the electromagnets because when the electromagnets are setup to be opposing to each other as one electromagnet starts to power down the lines of force shift toward it causing them to be pushed through the coil. When it is set up this way the electromagnets only have to vary in strength in relation to to each other to cause induction in the secondary coil. In the diagrams I have provided earlier in this thread I have shown how anyone can prove all this out. Also when you do it this way the wires in the top of the induced coil have an opposite sign as the wires in the bottom of the coil. This is why it is necessary to split the coil in the middle, and hook the wires like I did. When the induced coil is used in this way it's flux can not effect the flux of the primary electromagnets.

I just post here this interpretation. Until now I was thinking that the this patent was different to the 1908 patent. Now I am not sure if they are equivalent or not.

One image is from that user. For clarity I have supperimposed his coil winding proposal into the patent diagram in order to grasp his idea.

I had always wondered why Figuera left so much room for the electromagnet winding at both side of the central core. Note that he left almost the same room for the wires as the diameter of the soft iron core.

Just for your study. Do you think it could work fine? Folowing this interpretation I think that a pancacke coil with an internal hollow as big as the soft iron core will also fit this requirement.

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Old 10-28-2014, 12:34 PM
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Here's a short video by me with some ideas about the Figuera patent. I think that the flux was directed through either an air gap or solid block, and the pickup wires were contained within then. The main flux could be either from an electro-magnet or a permanent magnet, and that flux is shifted by a secondary electro-magnet which may form part of a tank circuit. Anyway, that's my thoughts for what they are worth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoZC...ature=youtu.be

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Old 11-02-2014, 11:01 PM
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From Figuera patent #30378 (Motionless generator) (1902) (textual quote):

Quote:
" In Gramme ring and in current dynamos, current is produce
by induction produced on the wire of the induced circuits while
its coils cut the lines of force "
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Quote:
" The inventors believe that is exactly the same that the induced
circuit coils cut the lines of force, than that these lines of force cross the induced wire. "

Therefore:

1 - Figuera was searching for induction by flux cutting the wires into a motionless device.

2 - How did Figuera get to move laterally the lines of force and cut the induced wire?

For me this is the key of Figuera´s motionless patents: using two electromagnets to move the lines of force forward and backward.
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From Figuera patent #30378 (Motionless generator) (1902) (textual quote):



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Therefore:

1 - Figuera was searching for induction by flux cutting the wires into a motionless device.

2 - How did Figuera get to move laterally the lines of force and cut the induced wire?

For me this is the key of Figuera´s motionless patents: using two electromagnets to move the lines of force forward and backward.
Definately he was searching for moving lines of force, however the patent you mentioned seems to be evolved dynamo engine based on shape of the apparatus presented on schematic from patent.
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Hi all,
I want to offer here a possible implementation of the Figuera 1902 generator, teh one excited by pulsed current.

I want to tell you one story: I started with the Figuera project in october 2012 when I read in many general forums a user posting many times the same message. Just google: Clemente Figuera canarion ,and you will see. In summary he told that the system works and that we should replicate Figuera´s patents. I got intrigued because that man was very enthusiatic and open to tell it. In one forum I got his email by contacting with the webmaster.

We maintained a email thread for some months and then suddenly he stopped sending me emails. In those emails he told me that the system is very simple and that using 12 V and 3A, pulsed with a VFD or similar, as input he got around 3000 watts in the output. He was using one electromagnet and in each side he placed one induced coil. I got surprised because this was not the Figuera design. Figuera always used two electromagnet one in each side and the "induced circuit" -as he called it- was in the middle.

He also sent me some more designs with two electromagnets and the induced coils in the middle . This was Figuera design. The amazing thing is that those designs had TWO INDUCED COILS in the middle . Why two coils and not just one?, I thought. He also told me to put an aislant between the electromagnets and the coils (the same that it´s being suggested now in the thread of bucking coils with the loose coupling concept). He also told that I should move the coils in order to find the correct place. Even he told me that the induced coil must have an small angle with respect to the electromagnets. As I didn´t understand why he used 2 induced coils or the aislant I didn´t take care of that design because I thought it was against the logic and it was nonsense. I did not replicate that design. Now in the bucking coils thread I see many similarities with this design.

I attach here the sketches that he sent me (I already posted this info in a pdf many months ago but probably nobody remember that right now) . In one email he sent one sketch but few minutes later he sent me a second email with the wiring changed and he said to be correct now. He never told me precise data, for that reason I don´t know if the electromagnets polarity was North-South or North-North. He was very cryptic.

In sumary: I think that using two inducers (one in each side) and two induced coils in bucking mode, with those inducers facing North-North then you will have that each inducer field just reach one of the bucking coils. In this case you could excite each induced coil with one inducer field and the induced current in both coils will add up perfectly and maybe the Lenz effect in the electromagnets could be reduced.

I stronly recommend you to follow the thread about bucking coils because it could have some keys for replicating the Figuera 1902 patent. Bucking Coil forum and here an interesting video


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Hi hanon, thanks for sharing.
In the second drawing, if the primary coils are wound in same direction, then those primaries are bucking each other.
Normally, that would negate the primary inducer field, though with those core gaps, not sure how that would affect it.
I'll have to study this clem/figuera setup more.
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Edit: i see, he was creating virtual motion, flux cutting.
I watched your video hanon, i wonder if a flip flop circuit could work to create the alternating same polarity in each outside coil.
I will remove the bifilar on my bucking setup and wind single wire and try it.
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Following the bucking coil concept.

Two inducers and two output bucking coils. Inducers have like poles facing each other , therefore the system is simetric and each induced coil is trasversed for each inducer field. Both effect add up to contribute to the final voltage output.

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We have seen that the bucking coils can react with produced waves and a disc of magnets. They also react to a small running motor close by and really react to the scalarbeamer. For those that want to see something really strange see the following for magnet details and check out what a scalarbeamer does to this system, POWER.

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PS: Those scalarbeamers must be PWM pulsed.

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I have found this in a video on the delay that occurs in the magnetization of a metal core. As you see in the video, the magnetic field is delayed as a probe is moved away from the inductor's until reaching 180 degrees compared to being in phase (0 °) for short distances. This is called Delayed Lenz Effect . If the delay in the magnetization of the core makes this field to be delayed half wave, imagine: the magnetic field is delayed half cycle. If in that postition you place one collector coil and induced current is generated. The induced field would take another half cycle to return to the electromagnet and affect it: 1/2 cycle + 1/2 cycle = 360º. Thus, instead of opposing to the electromagnet it could be coupled to it and amplify the effect. It is the case of a swing: If the swing, in the return way, just change direction at the time that a force is applied the effect is amplified effortless ... you should calibrate the timing to push the swing to give the boost at the right time, otherwise you could brake it. I could be wrong but apparently it seems that between being the inducers and the induced close (with offset 0 °) and suffer the effect of the law lenz opposing, and being away (offset 180º) maybe that effect serve to "help" rather than to brake.

I mention this in order to document the forum. For now I will not try all these things. But it seems to me curious as one user who said to get it running said he had to move the induced coil , also in the forum about bucking coils people are using insulation between coils (plastic spacers) (loose coupling) , Buforn and Figuera were cryptic about the placement of the coil: the coil has to be "properly placed" as literally they wrote on all patents since 1908, also I have seen a video where in Hendershot generator the distance between coils had to be adjusted. It seems like there's a spatial issue (placement) which is beyond our understanding ... Anyway, here I put it to have it documented, who knows if someday someone will come and find all these useful. Please see the video, it is very interesting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQ5xnyj7xe4

Source: DLE-TEST21 : Solid State Delayed Lenz Effect in laminated steel core proved with the VRM measurement



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Hi Hanon.
I think it is all about a delay in the magnetic wave propagation
AND reflecting that wave with a certain type of a load.
I am in the process of replicating this type of transformer.

Here, the core has properly spaced coils with long sections of the core
to use as a delay line for the magnetic flux wave.
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Why did Buforn change so radically the writting about the placement of the induced coil comparing his patents from 1910 and 1911?

Could he try to hide the key feature for running the generator? It got me thinking... ???


1910 patent: Induced coil core without touching the electromagnets cores

1911 patent: Induced coil core always must touch the electromagnets core

Both patents are exact copies of the 1908 Figuera patent. The only difference between 1910 and 1911 patent is this feature. I tend to think that Buforn filed a new patent in 1911 in order to hide the key features of this device...


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Hi,

I collect here an idea that already appeared in the forum about generating the two signals for the Figuera 1908 patent with a very simple method.

Suppose that each inducer is composed by two coils: One coil feed with DC current and the other coil feed with AC current. In inductor 1 you could place both coils so that both magnetic fields (from the DC and AC) add up in the first half cycle of the AC signal. In the inducer 2 you could place both coils to subtract their magnetic fields in that half cycle. Later, during the second half cycle, the polarity of the AC signal will reverse and in the inducer 2 both fields will add up while those fields will cancel in inductor 1.

With this layout I think you could get both opposite signals with a very easy setup. I post here an sketch in order to make it clearer for other users.

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Hello,

Although currently I am not doing experiments there is no day when I do not think about the Figuera generator. But I am reading many things trying to find similarities that give clues and help solve the puzzle.

For a month now I've been reading things about Gennady Nikolaev, Russian scientist who proposed an amendment to the electromagnetic equations of Maxwell to include the existence of longitudinal waves. He demonstrated experimentally the existence of these waves (there are several videos on Youtube but they are in Russian ... and I do not understand). They are longitudinal waves are those waves used in Tesla´s power wireless transmission. This scientific postulates that a second magnetic field, a magnetic field scalar not predicted by the current equations which predict only a transverse magnetic field. This field is the one that says that accommodates all overunity systems. It seems that his designs to get this field require two magnets with opposite poles very close.

For me what Figuera´s patent have in common (both 1902 as 1908) is that in all of them Figuera always used TWO electromagnets. Among them, in the center, it is placed the induced circuit. Using two magnets located very close is related to the proposed Nikolaev ideas.

Look what Nikolaev tells us:

Top photo: "In the middle of two magnets with the opposite poles (situated in one plane) the total vectorial magnetic field vector is zero, which is proven by the absence of magnetic interaction between magnets and a ferromagnetic material. This ferromagnetic material is placed in the space where usual magnetic field is zero. However, in the space where the total vector magnetic field vector of the two magnets is zero, the total value of the scalar magnetic field of the two magnets is maximum. In spite of this fact, the magnetic scalar field between magnets is maximum, this field does not interact with ferromagnetic materials. That is why the ferromagnetic material on the tray is not attracted to magnets. However if we create electric currents (or equivalent Amper´s currents of this double magnet) in this space, where usual magnetic field is zero, than under the action of longitudinal interactions of these currents with the total magnetic field of the magnets scale the forces of attraction or repulsion appear"

Bottom photo: "It is a device to demostrate the existence of longitudinal electromagnetic waves. Two loop antennas are emitting the antipodal waves. That is why the total signal of transverse electromagnetic waves in the plane between the loops is equal to zero. However, the longitudinal electromagnetic waves have the maximal value in the plane between the loops. These waves are easily recorded by the loop antennas, even in spite of fact that the plane of the loop antennas appears to be perpendicular to the plane of polarization vector of transverse electromagnetic waves. Any registration of transverse electromagnetic waves is impossible in this case. "

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This scalar field is allowing this rare effect between three magnets: the creation of a magnetic coupling or well where the attraction and repulsion are canceled: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtiMQPeYJrQ



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Has anybody gotten any significant results on the Figuera as of late...


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Old 06-25-2015, 11:18 PM
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I always recall to read the original patent text in detail to look for the right coil placement.

In the 1914 patent (Patent No. 57955 and filed by Buforn, a partner of Figuera) you can read:


Quote:
"If you want even greater production you can place the inducers and the induced one after the other forming a single series in the next way: you place first an electromagnet N, for example, next another electromagnet S, and between their poles and properly placed you put the corresponding induced, with this we will have formed a group of battery as explained before, but now (instead of forming as many identical groups to the first one as number of induced coils needed) you can place, following the last electromagnet S, another induced and, after this last induced you can place an inducer N, following this inducer by another induced, and then by another S, and so on until having placed all the inducers which form the series of electromagnet N and S.


With this we will have succeeded in using the two poles of all inducers except the first and the last one of which we will have only used one pole and, therefore we will have as many inducers as induced minus one, this is, if “m” is for example the number of inducers, then the number of induced will be “m – 1”, which determine a considerable increase in the production of the induced current with the same expenditure of force."

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For me it is clear that all electromagnets are arranged in a linear way (straight bar core type). Therefore you can use with this design both poles of each electromagnets in contrary to the use of just one pole of each electromagnet as in the original 1908 design.

For me it is clear that electromagnets are just solenoids , not any kind of transformer core type. Please open your minds and recall the generators from Hubbard, Hendershot and others where the cores are not forming any king of close transformer.


Here is the link the partial translation of the 1914 patent (sorry but it is 30 page long and it is too much time for me to translate it completely, more when it is practically a copy of the 1908 design plus some improvements as the ones explained in the translation that I attach)


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Quoting another paragraph from the 1914 patent:

Quote:
" Another advantage is that around the core of the induced electromagnets we can put another small size induced electromagnet with equal or greater core length than the large induced one. In these second group of induced an electric current will be produced, as in the first group of induced, and this produced current will be sufficient for the consumption in the continuous excitation of the machine, being completely free all the other current produced by the first induced electromagnets in order to use it in all purposes you want. "


Why is required that the induced coil for the self-sustaining to be of equal or greater length than the coil for electrical output ?


I have a theory for this: Maybe the patent require this configuration because both induced coils are having induction done by the flux cutting the wires (as in generators), not by flux linking (as in transformers). If induction is done by flux cutting (as consequence of the moving magnetic fields from one side to the other) then, the coil for the internal consumption of the machine is better to have a longer length to assure a continuous production of electricity, avoiding any instant without wires being cut by the lines of force, as may happen with a shorter coil while the magnetic fields are moving. All this is just my guess. In other case I can not explain why this configuration is required.


Any other ideas for explaining this configuration?


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Quoting another pragraph from the patent from 1914 (Buforn) with some cryptic sentences:



Quote:
"The way to collect this current is so easy that it almost seems excused to explain it, because we will just have to interpose between each pair of electromagnets N and S, which we call inducers, another electromagnet, which we call induced, properly placed so that either both opposite sides of its core will be into hollows in the corresponding inducers and in contact with their respective cores, or either, being close the induced and inducer and in contact by their poles, but in no case it has to be any communication between the induced wire and the inducer wire."



Why did he make reference to two cases: 1- when there is contact between the induced and inducers cores and, 2- when they are close together and in contact by their poles ? Which is the difference between contacting through the cores and contacting through the poles?


Why did he mention that "in no case it has to be any communication between the induced wire and the inducer wire" ? At first sight it seems to be a redundant feature, does it?


Please comment your thoughts about these sentences. I am not able to understand their real meaning. I do not understand why Buforn emphatize those details.

Note how I see this configuration. Also this configuration is the one used in the 1902 patent. I also attach an image from 1902 patent (Patent no. 30378): two straight solenoids (named "a" and "b") and the induced in the middle (named "c", not drawn in the patent, so not clear how to place it)


That why I always say to dig into the original sources.


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Old 07-12-2015, 04:30 PM
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In case of using a bucking coil design and just pulsed current in the two inducers, as described in the 1902 patent:

This is a configuration that -I think- should cancel completely the Lenz effect resulting from the group of two bucking induced coils:

Two inducers and two output bucking coils. Inducers have like poles facing each other (North - North , or South - South ) , therefore the system is simetric and each induced coil is trasversed by each inducer field. The induced current add up to contribute to the final voltage output, while at the same time both induced field cancell each other.



INDUCER (North) -----> TWO BUCKING COILS <----- (North) INDUCER


Where both inducers are creating a North pole toward each bucking coil (same inducer poles facing each other North-North). Their fields crash in the ce3nter point and are expelled from the iron core. This way each bucking coil is transversed by a different inducer field.

Connecting properly the induced coils, both induced voltages add up, while both induced magnetic fields cancel out.
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Hi all,

I have being modelling in Excel the commutator described in the 1908 patent. Quoting the patent: “ Let be “R” a resistor that is drawn in an elementary manner to facilitate the comprehension of the entire system. “

I have done the simulation of the original commutator, as described in the patent, and also the simulation of an modified commutator consisting of two independent resistors. Using two independent resistor one for N-Coils and other for the S-coils (but both connected to the rotary brush device) it is easier to get two symmetrical signals for each array of inducers. With just one resistor the available values of resistances and impedance of the coils are more restricted to get a good output signal because the resistance of one array and the other array are mutually dependent. Using two resistors we get an extra degree of freedom and we may use more resistance values to get a better shape in the output signals. For those who use the Excel spreadsheet the input values to the simulation are the cells in green.

I include here the simulation of both systems but, according to the patent quote, it won´t be difficult that Figuera just drawn it in such a way to make easier its understanding; but maybe he envisioned an optimized commutator to get a better signals to each inducer coil array (N and S).

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Link to the Excel file: http://overunity.com/12794/re-invent...attach/150736/



Link to image 1: http://overunity.com/12794/re-invent...attach/150737/



Link to image 2: http://overunity.com/12794/re-invent...attach/150738/
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Hi all,


Patrick Kelly has updated in his ebook the info referred to the Figuera Generator. Now the info presents with a higher degree of fidelity the original concepts included in Figuera´s patents


Apart from the 1908 patent, in the book now it is also included new info from the two patents filed in 1902: the motionless generator (patent no. 30378) and the generator with the rotary coil (patent no. 30376)


Link in HTML: http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapt3.html


Link in PDF: http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter3.pdf


Below I post the sketch from the 1908 patent, and also the sketches from the 1902 patents: the motionless generator and the rotary coil generator.

Sketch from the patent filed in 1908:



Sketch from 1902 motionless generator:



Sketch from 1902 generator with rotary coil:


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Although this thread is not much alive I try to use it as a kind of blog where I post new findings that are posted in OU forum where this subject keeps alive.

Some time ago a user in OU forum posted the sketch that I attach below.

Note how he alternated the polarity along each electromagnet serie in order to get close magnetic circuits with all the electromagnets. He added two external iron bars (in black) to get those close magnetic circuits. Closing the magnetic circuit will get more powerful electromagnets and enhance all magnetic effects


Just re-posted in case of being of interest

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Although this thread is not much alive I try to use it as a kind of blog where I post new findings that are posted in OU forum where this subject keeps alive.

Some time ago a user in OU forum posted the sketch that I attach below.

Note how he alternated the polarity along each electromagnet serie in order to get close magnetic circuits with all the electromagnets. He added two external iron bars (in black) to get those close magnetic circuits. Closing the magnetic circuit will get more powerful electromagnets and enhance all magnetic effects


Just re-posted in case of being of interest

Regards


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I for one appreciate your updates here. I wasn't aware of the PJK update, so that was particularly welcome as there's quite a few things added. I didn't know that there were any other patents besides what PJK had already shown either. That new one where the coils would be powered directly by AC is intriguing - straight-AC for one side and cap-phase-shifted-AC for the other, much simpler to implement nowadays, so why aren't there any builds doing this?

That diagram you've attached kinda makes sense, but it got me wondering as to why the original setup isn't in a ring formation - as it is, 2 poles of each driver-pair are unused, put them in a ring, double your number of output coils and you automatically double your output-power, and all for zero extra input! Or am I missing something obvious?!?!?
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