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Old 11-01-2012, 09:06 PM
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Read between words. Very interesting. Are we approaching big breakthrough in all aspects of free energy generation systems ? Are we prepared ?

"In 1919 Hubbard represented the apparatus as being capable of extracting electrical energy directly from the air, but he admitted yesterday that this had been merely a subterfuge to protect his patent rights, and that, as a matter of fact, it had been a device for extracting electrical energy from radium, by means of a series of transformers which stepped up the rays.

He declined to go into detail in regard to the exact manner in which he managed to extract power from radium -- but said that, so far as he had been able to determine, there was no great difference between the Detroit machine and his.

"I never heard of this Lester J. Hendershot, the Pittsburgh electrical engineer who is demonstrating the motor", Hubbard said, "but it must be remembered that I worked on the invention for two years in Pittsburgh -- in 1921 and 1922. It was a Dr. Greenslade who represented the people who were financing me at the time -- but, of course, if the people who bought out most of my interest in the invention were to bring it out as their own machinery, they would probably do it through a man with whom I had never worked. I was employed by the radium Chemical Company at the time I was working in Pitsburgh". "
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Old 11-01-2012, 11:26 PM
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I have been informed that Ed Skilling gave a conference lecture in 1981 (USPA) reporting that the device only works in surroundings of extreme low air humidity.
I note the word *works*, and no matter what earlier disinfo had been circulated, they could not have been using *radium* by the time Skilling took an interest !
No other details known.
Wardenclyffe - Tesla's true intention

Maybe if I constructed my 'iron light' on plate glass, then nothing could be said to be hidden.

Cheers ........ Graham.

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for information only in the case of
... a simple fluxgate

Fluxgate
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Old 11-08-2012, 06:23 AM
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Barry Hilton's notes in The Hendershot Mystery link I posted above state that the primary Mk1-2 generator coils (as in the plane) were honeycomb, a form of axial wave winding.
They were not.
From a better screenshot they clearly appear to be basketweave as was continued throughout the Mk3 constructions; ie. minimum self capacitance for a given current generated field.

Also, could it be that the twin L13-14 cored coils were within the co-axial 8A-B windings, as per the Fluxgate video linked in the last post by Wings, and thus more closely aligned with the dip angle of the Earth's magnetic field away from the equator ?

Why is there such published error ?

I have already stated that both circuits published on page 57 are seriously incorrect and thus this page of Barry's notes should be binned -
and now I am stating that page 58 should be binned too !

It has become MY PERSONAL OPINION that Barry's publication is so full of errors it will PREVENT constructors from replicating a functioning Hendershot device.

Why does Barry so clearly publish instruction to reverse wind the foil core-cap foil-paper layering when compared to the definitive illustrations published by Mark Hendershot here -

http://www.hyiq.org/Library/Download...Hendershot.pdf

Also, on page 62 Barry writes
"Coils wound in a counter-rotational manner are normally regarded as non-inductive coils, whilst those wound in a compatible rotational manner are generally considered inductive.

What absolute rubbish.

Sorry folks, this guy is either fabricating untruthful text as he writes, or NOT a competent technical author, or both, and thus his writing must be read with discernment by anyone seeking correct information which might present a useful basis for construction.

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Old 11-08-2012, 01:59 PM
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Terminology

Greetings, all...

Graham, good catch in that photo! That does indeed appear to a wave-wound coil. I don't know if "wave-wound" is the proper term for that type of coil, and getting the terminology right appears to be much of the problem in Hilton's book.

As a case in point, as you pointed out from page 62, was his use of the term "counter-wound." I came upon that as well, but my own translation of it was that he meant bifilar, with the wires on one end connected together, such that the coil becomes nearly non-inductive. This, as opposed to bifilar, with the end of the first wire connected to the start of the second wire, resulting in a HIGHLY inductive coil.

So yes, I would agree that Hilton is likely not a well-versed technical writer. As such, the use of one's knowledge and intuition is a key factor in understanding the device.

By the way, since the device DOES utilize both the electric and magnetic components, I'm using bifilar coils for all but the "basket-weave" coils. For the latter, I've decided to use 3 layers for each (8A and 8B) simply because the "one turn" description in the patent application hardly seems appropriate.

Do bear in mind, Graham, that Hilton likely did his best to document Hendershot's work, and as such, we should be grateful, as all other available descriptions are sadly lacking in detail. Thus, Hilton's work is all we've got to go on. It's up to us to find the mistakes and correct them.

I expect to have the resonator strip assembly completed today, and initial set-up underway by the weekend. Stay tuned!

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Old 11-08-2012, 04:33 PM
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A little help - Just starting

I ran across the forum with a name something like "get 5 out with 1 in ..." and started to read some of the posts. I read one post that had a schematic of what I have come to learn is referred to as the MkIII version. I noticed that it looked like a schematic I have owned for about 30+ years (I was really young when I got it). I couldn't tell what the name was except that it was something like ES... . I have periodically tried to look up this name but with no luck. I guess I didn't try that hard. The article I have is incomplete so I never bothered to do anything with it. The name of the article is "Electrostatic Power Generator" that contains only page one and a schematic that is dated Oct. 26, 1958, signed by someone named ES... Sunday 11:30 to 2:30pm. The title on the schematic page is "75 watts output, Meter read 110 volt AC, after 3 min. drop to 90 volts and capacitor starts boiling".

From this forum I have found the name of Ed Skilling and decided to find the the above papers. After about a week of searching I found them and in fact the name on the paper is E Skilling. I have always wanted to build this but had no information of any kind. I want to make this my next project but from what I have read in this forum it almost seems that at the present no one is doing much. I have download a lot of PDF files and I'm happy to see that new posts are still being made here.
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1. 1979 - Arthur C Aho - Tomorrow's Energy ...
2. A story of free energy - Ed Sk...
3. From the archives of Lester...
4. HendershMot-UtilityEng
5. Herdershot Early Generator
6. HendershotMystery...
7. The hendershot enigma
8. The Hendershot motor mystery
9. The so called hendeshot motor
10. The manual of free energy devices and systems...
11. X the truth about fueless motor - july 1928

Can anyone give me an idea of what is the good/bad and the ugly of the PDFs that I have found or where I should go to find out more. There are lots of web sites out there but I am going to stick with this forum until I get more knowledge under my belt about the Hendershot apparatus. I am starting with PDF #6 above, but if you have a better order or other PDFs I should read first let me know.
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Old 11-08-2012, 07:40 PM
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Read them all, in no particular order. As you do, bear in mind that: (1) an electrical current also has a magnetic component at 90į to current flow, (2) that the field of a permanent magnet can be cancelled out or made stronger with a coil wrapped around it, and (3) as Hendershot stated, if you use your finger to physically move a compass needle to the east/west position, it will return to the north/south position when you let go of it. There's no "magic" or "mystery" here. Be child-like in your thinking (as opposed to a totally brainwashed academic who is incapable of thinking outside the little box his professors created for him) and it'll become clear how the Hendershot device works. Start at the beginning as Hendershot did. Pay particular attention to what happens ELECTRICALLY when you make/break a MAGNETIC circuit -- which can happen in a wire even WITHOUT an electrical return path.

Best wishes in your endeavors.
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Old 11-08-2012, 10:01 PM
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The name of the article is "Electrostatic Power Generator" that contains only page one and a schematic that is dated Oct. 26, 1958, signed by someone named ES... Sunday 11:30 to 2:30pm. The title on the schematic page is "75 watts output, Meter read 110 volt AC, after 3 min. drop to 90 volts and capacitor starts boiling".
Hi Mike,

Looks like you have a good original find there, for electrostatic is indeed the C1-2 feedback mechanism which maintains generation, yet I do not remember reading this anywhere else.
This was the main reason for my last post, for Barry's 'Mystery' text stating construction of C1-2 will negate electrostatic transduction, whilst Mark's 'Archive' published drawings are correct, as per that last link I posted.

If a capacitor boiled then clearly there was more than enough power generated than that necessary to merely light a lamp, and obviously this was why so many variants existed as the circuit became more developed.

I concur with Chris too - for here there is indeed need to read all texts in order to get a feel for Lester's constructions:
His works were entirely intuitive and yet he 'real-world' demonstrated (what all the scientists said was and still ensist is) the impossible.

Cheers ......... Graham.

PS.
Presently Chris is studying the Mk1-2 versions, myself more the Mk3 variations.
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Old 11-08-2012, 10:38 PM
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Thanks for the insight

I am not sure yet what version is more interesting. Like I said I do have a MkIII schematic with hand written notes like, "capacitor C2 equal to .0062, squeeze with clamp to work, variation of pressure raises value to .01 from .0062". I believe that the circuit was currently being tested. But the idea of the MkI version that can be created any size, in the small airplane or connected to a 45HP motor of 130lbs. I must read for awhile and there is a lot of it. Thanks for the insight, this should be fun.
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Old 11-08-2012, 10:39 PM
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I expect to have the resonator strip assembly completed today, and initial set-up underway by the weekend. Stay tuned!
Looking forwards to seeing your resonator Chris. Likely beyond what I could fabricate.

This video shows nicely how a wavewound coil is fabricated -
Morris Gingery Ham Radio Coil Winder - YouTube

and this patent is quite Hendershot motor like, though in reverse !
Patent US4618806 - Ironless, brushless DC motor with wave-winding - Google Patents

Cheers ............. Graham
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Old 11-12-2012, 06:01 AM
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Toy Airplane

Are there any other photos of the toy airplane besides the one side view. I was wondering if the model was a tin toy airplane. The strut that goes for the wing to the body looks like thin metal (tin). Do we know if this is a custom toy or a modified purchased toy. Just curious. I love model planes and these old ones are very pricey.
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Old 11-12-2012, 10:26 AM
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An experiment that was performed in tel-aviv university in Shimshon Bar-ad lab by Moshe Elazar .
In this pump (high intensity beam) -probe (low intensity beam) experiment at a fixed magnetic I did an excitation on permalloy with single pulse (pump) and used a kerr microscope and a probe in order to record the changes (with CCD camera) in the sample magnetization as a function of time.
In this movie, one could see how a single pulse accelerated the spontaneous magnetization.

Single pump accelerates the evolvement of the spontaneous magnetization - YouTube

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Old 11-13-2012, 11:54 PM
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First Thoughts

After reading all of the material and the posts in the forum I have come to the same conclusion as both Chris and Graham. This apparatus has some very interesting background and discoveries. I have decided that I want to start in the beginning. The MkIII seems to have to many schematics and for a start project way to hard to get it to start running. Even though to build it looks simple. After Ed Skilling took a working model and disassembled it and then reconstructed it plus built a second one to the exact same specs, he could not get either one to work. He then took it to Hendershot and it still took awhile for him to get them to work again. Where as the MkI/MkII model, from the information available seem to work without any trouble. Hendershot's family didn't seem to have any problem playing with the airplane that Hendershot built plus other appliances when Lester was not around. After the airplane demo the air base engineers under Hendershot instructions (hands off) they were able to build a very large 45 - 60 HP version that seem to work without any problems. The MkI/MkII, I think is where I want to focus first.
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Old 11-13-2012, 11:55 PM
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Second Thoughts

From the information available Hendershot under other occasions build projects (toys, etc.) that he sold to companies, I could see him selling the information for the MkI/MKII for $25000 (a lot of money back then) and walk away saying that the project was a fake and never talking about it again. I can see him signing a NDA (or what ever they had) to not create another one for the seventeen years of a standard patent. I believe that the MkIII was a result of his commitment and why it took so long for him to expose another version that is a lot different.
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Old 11-14-2012, 12:03 AM
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Which version - MkI or MKII

When searching the web I only came across 2 pictures of model airplanes that were associated with Hendershot. One was mounted on a wood stand and the other picture was of Herdershot and his son holding the airplane. After looking at the two pictures I have concluded that the mounted airplane is the MkI version and the other picture is the later MkII version. The MkI version was a toy. By looking at the picture you can see it was made of metal (tin toy) with a modified front end to house the motor. The propeller is too small to be of any use and the wing span is too short. The body seems a bit long as well. This picture shows a very good model building skill of Hendershot. It was nice of him to leave it open so we could see what was inside. The second picture is very bad and it is hard to see any details. But the propeller is bigger and mounted on a pointed nose cone, the wing span is wider and the body length with both Hendershot and his sons hand holding it seem to be in the right proportions as the one that would have been used as the demo airplane that does not need to be in the North/South direction to work.

Claiming that the difference between the MkI version and the MkII version was only within the basket weave coil then we can assume that the apparatus for each was really close. I donít think that after mounting the MkI version he would take the guts out to build the next version. He had time to rebuild and make the second version work as he claimed, any direction, leaving the first version still mounted and at his home (where is it now?). The first version MkI seems simpler as it relates to the induction compass and I donít care that it only works in one direction.
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Old 11-14-2012, 09:36 AM
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In this movie, one could see how a single pulse accelerated the spontaneous magnetization.
Yes a molecular 'magnetic domain' (atom electron spin-orbit alignment) wave development, via progressive quanta share-triggering process, like Barkhausen.

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After reading all of the material and the posts in the forum I have come to the same conclusion as both Chris and Graham.
Yes, there is not any complete instruction set left anywhere; TPTB ensured that !

My conclusion - Lester was very clever, and for all my efforts, I don't come close.
I certainly have not been able to suss out the Mk1-2 versions.
I did however think that tin wings were the 'antenna', or at least a differential capacitor tuning the first set of inductors with respect to the capacitive free space coupling of all the other wiring. Also that the resonance effect was vibrator pulse tuned.

Presently I am about to try experimenting with Mk3 replications.
Unfortunately my Geiger Counter recently passed away through old age and I am trying to purchase another.
Why a Geiger Counter ?
Well I suppose I could use a radio or headphones as Lester and Aho did to detect the onset of operation, but listening for and to EM inductions/ radiations is not the same as detecting the atomically reactive output which sustains output.
Also I have no wish to harm myself or anyone else through radiations which might extend beyond magnetically coupled inductions.
So: Slowly - Slowly -

Cheers ........... Graham.

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Ok.. so Im definately not an electrician... But I stumbled upon a set of plans for the Hendershot Generator... complete with instructions on how to build one.. After seeing it wired on video.. this does appear to work... However.. Im not very tech savvy and have a few questions..

First off, the hand woven coils state you should have 57 pegs... is this number crucial? I counted the pegs on the picture in the instructions.. and there appears to be 60.. and after laying out my circles in even geometric proportion I wind up with 63 pegs.. Just wondering if this is ok? or is it giong to throw things off ?

Secondly... I have been thinking of using a neodymium magnet for the "core" of the unit.. I know these magnets are VERY powerful... any thoughts on this? Or should I stick with a regular steel magnet?

Third... there is no mention of a 4th wire in this design.. I dont know what else to make of that.. but I will attach the schematic drawing for you to have a look at.

Last is about the capacitor and transformer rating.. The only info I have about these components are as follows... perhaps someone could shed some light on what combination of microfarad and voltage I would be aiming for.. They call for:

2 X unpolarized capacitors 500 micro farads each
4 X unpolarized capacitors 1000 micro farads each
2 X Transformers 1:5 ratio for 110-240 volts

I am hoping to build a 110v system if that helps at all... Any info would be GREATLY appreciated!!!
I will attach a schematic of the device I am trying to build.
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Old 11-15-2012, 03:31 PM
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Yes, there is not any complete instruction set left anywhere; TPTB ensured that !

My conclusion - Lester was very clever, and for all my efforts, I don't come close.
I certainly have not been able to suss out the Mk1-2 versions.
I did however think that tin wings were the 'antenna', or at least a differential capacitor tuning the first set of inductors with respect to the capacitive free space coupling of all the other wiring. Also that the resonance effect was vibrator pulse tuned.
So: Slowly - Slowly -

Cheers ........... Graham.
@Graham,
Thanks for the response, I wasn't sure anyone was still posting here based on previous posts. I agree with you about Lester being very clever. A lot more clever than any available information has provided. I think I want to try my hand at the MkI/MkII, at least for awhile. It sounds like you have attempted this with no success. With the lack of basic information I will more than likely fail as well but you know, you just gotta try. I was wondering if you would be willing to share some information on your failed builds. I could start my investigation from scratch or I could save some time by using some or yours.

coil size, wire size, turns tried, etc.

It does not need to be everything you tried but a starting place. Please post here or PM me, thanks.

With the information given, Hendershot used an old radio given him to build the first version (I am sure he had lots of spare stuff around as well, we all do).

@all,
This seems like as good a place as any, So, I have decided to post my findings here if that is OK with the owner of this forum. No posts here have given any specific information about any builds yet. I don't know if this is the right place. I know that there was an older forum for replications of Hendershot but it seems to be unused at the present time. Let me know where build information should be posted.
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Old 11-19-2012, 08:50 AM
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Ok.. so Im definately not an electrician... But I stumbled upon a set of plans for the Hendershot Generator...

First off, the hand woven coils state you should have 57 pegs... is this number crucial?

Secondly... I have been thinking of using a neodymium magnet for the "core" of the unit.. I know these magnets are VERY powerful... any thoughts on this? Or should I stick with a regular steel magnet?

Third... there is no mention of a 4th wire in this design.. I dont know what else to make of that.. but I will attach the schematic drawing for you to have a look at.

Last is about the capacitor and transformer rating.. The only info I have about these components are as follows...

2 X unpolarized capacitors 500 micro farads each
4 X unpolarized capacitors 1000 micro farads each
2 X Transformers 1:5 ratio for 110-240 volts
Hi XXXJAYXXX.

57 pegs ? I do not see how this can be critical. The idea with a basket weave coil is to reduce interturn capacitance without much reducing alternating magneic field coupling.
I believe the most important aspect was to construct self supporting windings in order to be able to insert or replace separately constructed corecaps without need for destroying coils in order to do so.

I do not know enough about neodimium magnets.
Magnets 'ring' and impart same waveform characteristic within any coil or mechanical coupling arrangement when constituting part of a pulse energised magnetic circuit.
Alnico types do not ring as much because their cores are conductive, thus the coil current to mechanical/ armature transduction is more direct.
This is the reason older loudspeakers with Alico magnets remain better to listen to than modern types having higher power ceramic or ferrite type magnets.

Fourth wire ? What fourth wire ?

Capacitors - non polarised motor-run types are available, if expensive.
Where do those capacitor values come from I wonder. Unless any output is low-Z and at least 1kW then 1,000uf is like a short circuit to the Hendershot arrangements. Maybe someone has missed out a decimal point before each last zero ?

Transformers. The TV frame output transformers Hendershot used were quite unlike transformers still made today. They were more like audio transformers with 1k primary and 40 ohm secondary matching impedances, also with gapped E-I cores to reduce core saturation. Mains transformers would not have as finely grained laminations, nor paper gapping within the cores, so any mains transformer substitute would need to be much larger in order not to saturate at the low running frequency, and be toroidal in order to have an improved HF response.
Mains transformers today also tend to have laminations that are side welded whilst having been under pressure. It is possible to hacksaw through this weld and insert a layer of paper yourself (I have done this). Windings on mains transformers also tend to be bobbin separated for insulation purposes. This is disadvantageous for HF coupling; however there is no reason why you could not then wind your own layered transformer after sawing a modern component apart.

Anyone who wants to replicate a Hendershot generator today is going to need to overcome many more obstacles beyond incomplete/ inaccurate circuit records/ instructions.

but don't let that put you off ........... Graham

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Old 11-19-2012, 09:25 AM
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Hi Mike.

I might have started this thread but do not claim ownership of it, and from what is obvious, members of this energetic forum are great sharers anyway.

I build only where I have a prior idea to test, and this is why I have never tried anything related to Mk1-2 Hendershots, not even any failed investigations. Hence I cannot help you any in this regard.

Look forwards to hearing of any conclusions you might make though.

Cheers ......... Graham.

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Old 11-19-2012, 09:47 AM
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Hendershot designs were the epitomy of 'passive' analogue technology !
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57 pegs ? I do not see how this can be critical. The idea with a basket weave coil is to reduce interturn capacitance without much reducing alternating magneic field coupling.
I believe the most important aspect was to construct self supporting windings in order to be able to insert or replace separately constructed corecaps without need for destroying coils in order to do so.

I do not know enough about neodimium magnets.
Magnets 'ring' and impart same waveform characteristic within any coil or mechanical coupling arrangement when constituting part of a pulse energised magnetic circuit.
Alnico types do not ring as much because their cores are conductive, thus the coil current to mechanical/ armature transduction is more direct.
This is the reason older loudspeakers with Alico magnets remain better to listen to than modern types having higher power ceramic or ferrite type magnets.

Fourth wire ? What fourth wire ?

Capacitors - non polarised motor-run types are available, if expensive.
Where do those capacitor values come from I wonder. Unless any output is low-Z and at least 1kW then 1,000uf is like a short circuit to the Hendershot arrangements. Maybe someone has missed out a decimal point before each last zero ?

Transformers. The TV frame output transformers Hendershot used were quite unlike transformers still made today. They were more like audio transformers with 1k primary and 40 ohm secondary matching impedances, also with gapped E-I cores to reduce core saturation. Mains transformers would not have as finely grained laminations, nor paper gapping within the cores, so any mains transformer substitute would need to be much larger in order not to saturate at the low running frequency, and be toroidal in order to have an improved HF response.
Mains transformers today also tend to have laminations that are side welded whilst having been under pressure. It is possible to hacksaw through this weld and insert a layer of paper yourself (I have done this). Windings on mains transformers also tend to be bobbin separated for insulation purposes. This is disadvantageous for HF coupling; however there is no reason why you could not then wind your own layered transformer after sawing a modern component apart.

Anyone who wants to replicate a Hendershot generator today is going to need to overcome many more obstacles beyond incomplete/ inaccurate circuit records/ instructions.

but don't let that put you off ........... Graham
Thanks so much for at least shedding a LITTLE bit of light on this for me! After reading through this thread.. It seemed like many people were mentioning wire "L4" within the coil.. which I assumed stood for "Line 4".. once again.. Im a noob.. lol... This generator I have found plans for claims to be large enough to supply power to an entire house. Based on your explination.. my understanding is that a 1kw output would not be out of the question for this unit.

Is there a way I can test these coils for an "output" to check for the voltage that will be running through the system in order to find the voltage rating for the caps?

Most of the transformers I have found are 24v-120v... Would it be a safe bet to keep the 24v rating the same for all of the caps? Or is it a possibility that all of the caps may need to have different voltage ratings in order to work properly?

Thanks for your patience GSM.. I appreciate the response!
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Old 11-19-2012, 03:53 PM
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Thanks for the Info.

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Hendershot designs were the epitomy of 'passive' analogue technology !
I know your are right about the technology. It is just a matter of finding the right signal inter-process connection information.

I have to start somewhere, so the next step for me is selecting a size and shape of each component. From the information given the Mk1/2 was constructed with 2 different sizes for the honey-comb coil, approx. 3" and 7". I am going to start with the smaller size and see if I can come up with matching components.
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my understanding is that a 1kw output would not be out of the question for this unit.

Is there a way I can test these coils for an "output" to check for the voltage that will be running through the system in order to find the voltage rating for the caps?

Most of the transformers I have found are 24v-120v... Would it be a safe bet to keep the 24v rating the same for all of the caps? Or is it a possibility that all of the caps may need to have different voltage ratings in order to work properly?

Thanks for your patience GSM.. I appreciate the response!
I have not seen more than 200W illustrated, nor more than 500W projected.

1kW at 100Vac is 10A current.
None of the described windings could handle this, and Lester stated that his wires burnt out if he loaded the generator too much. He even reported capacitor overheating too.

Thus for any experiments here I shall be using 440Vac caps until I find out what is happening.

Cheers ......... Graham.
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Here is a pic of these guys testing the generator they built... There are 28 light bulbs there.. and the pic is showing them glowing at about half the power of what they show in the video... Even if these are small wattage bulbs (say 40w) which seems unlikely for how bright they actually shine.. (I would guess they are more like 60w bulbs) 40wX28 bulbs = 1120w conservatively.... Definatley not a kW.. but its quite a bit more than what you claim to have seen... It seems to me like the large capacitors play a hand in allowing this thing to produce a great deal more power than previous models... From your suggestion.. I am understanding that I should be using caps with a much higher voltage rating to avoid burning them out? Thanks again for your help! Ive learned more in the last few days than I did in a week trying to study this plan! lol!
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Old 11-21-2012, 10:14 AM
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Hi Jay,

What an interesting photograph. Thanks for sharing.
Maybe that is the 500W output projection written upon one of the Hendershot circuit drawings.

Obviously the photograph shows a six capacitor derivation, which means a later Mk3 design, and possibly similar to the 1963 Aho version drawn by O'Brian.

Three things I note.
- Even though the capacitors are large, two have been overheated, as is shown by their plastic insulating sleeve covers having shrunk !
- The trafos are outside of the core assemblies.
- One capacitor for each half is within a core assembly.

In earlier posts I suggested that the energy output resulted from a NMR energised event from within the iron of the metal cores. Quite possibly this being emanation inducements from nucleii through oppositely directed electron orbit spin waves (orbit spin of already spinning electon, with relative spin axes having 90 degree mutuality), through opposing and phase shifted magnetic coil winding inductions, plus core short circuit energisation and node-peak longitudinal core dimension resonance, concentrating at molecular boundary discontinuities.
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If so, then what emanations do we have here - alpha, beta or gamma ?
Yes alpha. beta or gamma or a combination of same, and these relating to which elements within core molecules ?
I truly do not know, and if there is gamma radiation then there is possible danger to anyone experimenting with or being near to Hendershot (and Kapanadze) type circuitries.

If this is an inducement to simple electron capture then iron could convert to manganese, and if doing so within our normal atmosphere it would do so as an oxide, and carbonate, nitrate etc.
And guess what - the oxides of manganese look just look like the oxides of iron - a rust - as observed and reported by Lester himself.
Unless this oxide were chemically analysed, then it cannot be stated that the rust observed was iron rust, and not the result of excited transmutation with energy release from matter: Not energy release from an imaginary aether. Nor does this energy come from the vacuum either, so not a zero point energy ! This is from the Sea of Energy mentioned by Moray, and that which we and all matter are, only here the release of that energy does not pollute in the same way as does the release of energy via the nuclear fission of radioactive matter.

I had already concluded that the spiral capacitor transduced emanations from the core, but I have since pondered why only the outside of the core had been overlayered, for such radiations would emanate from both sides of the thin metal core. Is this why in the photograph there is one large aluminium can capacitor within each core assembly, and is it transducing either beta or gamma output, alpha radiations being too short and requiring that an element shift by two places in the periodic table ? The core would also gain a charge relatively opposite to anything radiated, so was this not connected to any part of the circuit either, or maybe to the long centre corecap strip ?

I think anyone wishing to investigate more ought to first purchase a Geiger counter, via which they might not only gain a better understanding of how circuit inducements might be tuned to peak energise a Hendershot generator, but even more significantly, to protect themselves and everyone nearby from any potentially harmful gamma radiation.

No point in seeing what you are doing via the magic light of a Hendershot generator if by so doing you irradiate yourself and kill children through irreversible health degeneration, as Stubblefield unknowingly did though via a different route !

Also, in writing this I realise that is exactly what TPTB are already doing to us all, with air breathable alpha radiating particles falling on us, especially in rainfall, and yet this being a form of radiation which almost every Civil and Military contamination meter used by 'experts' today to monitor our environment simply does NOT - because they cannot - detect.

Cheers .......... Graham.

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There is also neutron radiation even worse then gamma. I think the only poor man method to prove all those is to use old photographic paper in black envelope
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The atom theory is bs.
We live in a sea of aether, our planet runs in the electric field of our galaxy.
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Here is a pic of these guys testing the generator they built...
Hi Jay,

That is a deliberate time wasting disinfo hoax and scam.
Those coils have insufficient turns, plus no central core-cap.
There is one winding missing per assembly, and they are fix-spaced too widely apart.

Cheers .......... Graham.
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There is also neutron radiation even worse then gamma. I think the only poor man method to prove all those is to use old photographic paper in black envelope
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Hi Dave,

So atom theory is BS is it ?
In other words you are stating that you believe you have a different understanding of the atom to me, and likely others too;
but how do you know that your understanding of the atom is correct ?
You care to explain ?

None of us would be writing here but for the highly reactive (natural energy releasing) iron and oxygen atomic reactions in the life promoting blood feeding our brains.

Have you read The Evolution of Matter by Gustave LeBon 1907 -
The evolution of matter - Gustave Le Bon - Google Books

This fascinating 100+ year old book is a free direct printable download from Google, and via reading you will come to learn exactly where the electric and magnetic fields within our Universe actually come from, and about the discovery of artificially induced radioactivity which, as with all other still radioactive substances we all know about, gives rise to fundamental and never ending changes of electric charge/ energy relations at a distance = radiated (non conducted) change of energy states of matter; ie. from atomic relationships within the molecules of matter to atomic relationships within the molecules of matter.

Even TH Moray studied LeBon's book, and this is likely why Moray's later "Sea" publications carried significantly different meaning to earlier writings.

Cheers ......... Graham.

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