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Old 10-09-2007, 10:57 PM
nali2001 nali2001 is offline
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Gravity motor - what do you think?

Hi Peter and all,
I heard the interview with you and Stirling.
Heard you were doing research on the gravity engines.

Well I have been doing some work on that as well.
Here you can see an idea I had.

http://home.planet.nl/~sintt000/MagneticWheel.wmv

The balls on rods are just (big) iron bearings and make the loop up to the ‘sticky point’ and stay there. Which is the problem of most of these things. But in my case you can see that the magnets after top dead center are getting weaker. But still the ‘sticky spot’ will hold the ball. Well now we insert more balls and these travel also up to the ball that was inserted first. And this adds up in weight pushing on the first ball held by the ‘sticky point’ well until a certain amount of weight on the first ball is reached it will overcome the ‘sticky point’s holding force’ and get the system into motion. On top of that you have the centrifugal ‘force’ which is build up in a rotating ball and is released when it smashed into the stationary balls. Its momentum is transferred trough all the balls in the row to the last one. This introduces a kick off action.

Kinda like these desktop toys with a couple swinging metal balls.

http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thu...n_s_cradle.jpg
And
billard ball pendulum

Well maybe it is of some help.
And mind you, yes the balls do travel up and past top dead center. I have tried that at least. And with balls of 25mm diameter is works ok. But I only have like 3 of these balls (out of a big broken ball bearing) so I cannot test it any better at this point. Also you need a lot of magnets…

But the concept could be useful?

Kind regards,
Steven
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Old 10-10-2007, 05:09 AM
Peter Lindemann Peter Lindemann is online now
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Try This...

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Hi Peter and all,
I heard the interview with you and Stirling.
Heard you were doing research on the gravity engines.

Well I have been doing some work on that as well.
Here you can see an idea I had.

http://home.planet.nl/~sintt000/MagneticWheel.wmv

The balls on rods are just (big) iron bearings and make the loop up to the ‘sticky point’ and stay there. Which is the problem of most of these things. But in my case you can see that the magnets after top dead center are getting weaker. But still the ‘sticky spot’ will hold the ball. Well now we insert more balls and these travel also up to the ball that was inserted first. And this adds up in weight pushing on the first ball held by the ‘sticky point’ well until a certain amount of weight on the first ball is reached it will overcome the ‘sticky point’s holding force’ and get the system into motion. On top of that you have the centrifugal ‘force’ which is build up in a rotating ball and is released when it smashed into the stationary balls. Its momentum is transferred trough all the balls in the row to the last one. This introduces a kick off action.

Kinda like these desktop toys with a couple swinging metal balls.

http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thu...n_s_cradle.jpg
And
billard ball pendulum

Well maybe it is of some help.
And mind you, yes the balls do travel up and past top dead center. I have tried that at least. And with balls of 25mm diameter is works ok. But I only have like 3 of these balls (out of a big broken ball bearing) so I cannot test it any better at this point. Also you need a lot of magnets…

But the concept could be useful?

Kind regards,
Steven
Steven,

Very good! If the ball will travel up the ramp and past the top, I suggest that you simply continue the track, but from about the 1 o'clock position, start moving the magnets further away from the ball and then stop the track at about the 3 o'clock position. The ball should be able to just "fall" out of the magnetic field at that point, assisted by gravity, and enter the bottom of the track again to begin another cycle. Once you are over the top, you do not have to keep making the magnets closer and closer to the ball.

See if this helps.

Peter
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Old 11-06-2007, 05:09 AM
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Cool Video

Hi Steven, Peter, and all!

Steven, great video. You have given me a few ideas.

Here is an idea I had for a gravity chain, but to understand
it fully, I suggest you watch this Youtube video showing the ability
of small magnets ability to make large magnets totally defy gravity.
YouTube - Magnetic Launcher

It is also largely based on the "Murilo Luciano" gravity chain here:
http://www.panaceauniversity.org/D21.pdf (page 7)

Anyway, here is my idea/photo. I wish I knew how to make a
cool 3-D video like yours. Can you tell me what program you use?

The mechanics of this
are still being tweaked, but try to imagine all the balls below circulating
inside of a clear plastic tube. On the outside of the tube are the smaller
magnets propelling the larger magnets similar to the Youtube video.

Basically, magnets lift the weights on the right hand side of the chain,
and several forces drive the weights down on the left of the chain. The
sprocketed wheel at the bottom can be used to drive a generator.

I am pretty sure that it will work, but I just have NO CLUE what kind of
force it might produce. It could obviously be scaled up, or scaled down,
but as it is drawn, the small 1/2" square magnets are only about .50 cents
each, but those large 1.5" magnets are very pricey at around $35 each!
(somebody please tell me if you can find them cheaper)

This is not to scale at all, nor are the number of magnets, but hopefully
you all will get the idea.

Thoughts please.

Thanks, Bob

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Old 12-07-2007, 10:24 AM
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A document about gravity engines

Hi

I found this document somewhere on the net.
So I thought to share it with those interested in this stuff.
See the attachment

Regards
Elias
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