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Will , watching my video change your pessimism?...Your Skepticism?...
Will it "transform" you in a "believer" in OU and FE Possibility?...or reality?
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You tell me...However, you have to compromise in front of this whole Thread to keep your word..
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That was a bit nasty.. Just post what you feel like posting and leave it for the community to review without these disdainful stipulations.
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That was a bit nasty.. Just post what you feel like posting and leave it for the community to review without these disdainful stipulations.

Hey Shanjag,

I think you've got it all wrong dear, Farmhand and I go a long way back of long disputes , discussions and arguments, back and forth about FE and OU...and this I posted was a joke to him, He knows that...I know He will never change, no matter how many videos I will show...He will not trust any over-unity device, ever...

So, reserve your "critics" about two "senior members" arguments...


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Videos On Radio Shack Motor

Ok Guys,

I made the videos...no sleep yet (Just for You All, except for Farmhand...so make sure He DO NOT watch them please... )

Videos are RAW, as they came out from FLIP CAM, to my PC, to You Tube.
No Editing, No Blending frames, nothing, just as I film it..."for sake of veracity"...and hoping Farmhand will believe me ...However, He may say Meters are "Arranged"...
They are classified as "Unlisted"...so, they will NOT appear in my channel publicly, as I am not going to post them in You Tube ..I like nice videos, not this CRAP..That's me, sorry...I DO Mind.
Now FLIP CAM Memory was Full while filming them, so I had to keep selecting/deleting old videos so I had room to keep going...therefore they are broken in Three Parts...

Below are all links to them..however, number one video (VID00056) is still not finished yet as of now, which is the longest one and I need to go to sleep...so keep checking...it is about the first part, measuring continuity and showing differences between two motors in the windings...however I forgot FLIP does not have an "Auto-Focus" so close up is a bit blurry ...but is fine.
The testing part can be seen great. Enjoy...

VID 000 is the title assigned by FLIP Cam


PART 2 (VID00057)

VID00057 - YouTube


PART 3 (VID00058) FINAL

VID00058 - YouTube


Part 1 (VID00056) (Not finished Uploading as of now and YT gave me this Auto assigned link, do not know if it will work after processing, or robot will assign another link...then tomorrow)


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UFOPolitics,

I understand why you would rather stay up than sleep now.

That is fantastic!

What happened at the end of video three (about 5:10 mark) while you slowed it down the meter on the right (output) stayed around 20. Then it dropped down to close to what the left meter (input) was reading? Did a clip pop off?

I assume others would ask you this as well.

Keep up the great work!

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PS - Video 1 may not have loaded correctly (says Video is currently being processed. Please check back in a few minutes). The link looks different than video 2 & 3.

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Hey Ufo,

Great videos, very cool to see the thing running. Personally I don't mind rough videos, it's just great to see it in action. I'd love to see that little battery driving one of those larger motors! It'd also be interesting to see what happens to the voltages when putting a load on both mechanical/electrical outputs.
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UFOPolitics,

I understand why you would rather stay up than sleep now.

That is fantastic!

What happened at the end of video three (about 5:10 mark) while you slowed it down the meter on the right (output) stayed around 20. Then it dropped down to close to what the left meter (input) was reading? Did a clip pop off?

I assume others would ask you this as well.

Keep up the great work!

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PS - Video 1 may not have loaded correctly (says Video is currently being processed. Please check back in a few minutes). The link looks different than video 2 & 3.


Hello Indiana,

Yes, Back Clip disconnected at last, I noticed when I was uploading/watching video...

The First Vid will load soon...I was so tired than I turned off the Modem...when I left PC on Uploading...sorry, am uploading it now...

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Hello, thanks for this.

If you load the 20volts output, the power output is greater than input? i mean V*I

Does the speed change?

If you turn a generator with this motor the power output is greater than unity?

Thats what you are saying?

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Old 07-12-2012, 02:36 PM
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Hello, thanks for this.

If you load the 20volts output, the power output is greater than input? i mean V*I
Yes it is, this motors when "on load" produce more, obviously, this type of motors works with the "C EMF" on our favor, so, the more the load the more the power, just because the ratio of Time Versus Current Increases, because of load closing circuit on output, this creates a stronger magnetic field on right side of symmetric plane (Output)

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Does the speed change?
Very slightly changes the Humming tone, just because there is an "Unbalance" like I said before...one side is loading, so it starts a bit more drag.

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If you turn a generator with this motor the power output is greater than unity?
I have turned a Generator of same type, yes both produce output, Motor 50% and Generator 100%, add them...

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Yes, that is what am saying

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Thats really great, thanks for the rapid and clear answers.

I had a dream the other day that i had free energy right here and a motor or alternator was smoking...

I wrote a question to you at your youtube video about the homopolar motor.

Is the back torque on the homopolar caused also by a counter magnetic field?

Because if that is the case, few turns of wire around the disk forming positive magnetic field reinforcing feedback derived from the current draw would create a reaction less generator action. Wouldn't it?

I think it could even work on ac and be self exited.

Would an alternator be able to break the symmetry? or maybe an induction ac motor?

This got me light all night!

Thanks again

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Old 07-12-2012, 03:15 PM
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@ufopolitics:

Do you have any "amperage" measurements on your input/output for that little RadioShack motor? On your video it's showing input voltage of about 8.5 and output voltage of around 20.8 so I was wondering about the amp readings for both.

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Test Two, Opposed Pentagon Wiring Design, Sullivan Motors

Hello All,

20090823162839 - YouTube


Here am showing a bigger Motor, same spec's, Asymmetric, is based on a Sullivan Starter Motor Core for R/C Gas Helicopters...cost? $200.00 USD Each Motor...So, this set up Motor wise, not Coil wire included costs $400.00 just to kill one motor...
Is running with a 1350 mAh LiPoBatt...11.something to 12 V...

This Motors have 10 Poles, this set up I have made is based on Two Pentagons opposed...meaning the way windings are set...I will supply CAD of it later on...


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My Bosch Motor Converted To Asymmetric

Hello All,

20090823173537 - YouTube


BOSCH MOTOR TEST:

Same Battery, different Motor, Asymmetric, 20 Poles Armature, Four (4) Permanent Magnet Stators, Four Upper/ Four Lower set of Brushes...a 700 Watts Motor RAN by a 12 V R/C Small LiPo Battery, 1350 mAh...watch torque...watch Time, versus Output...

Those little Batteries are designed to run a type Radio Shack "Symmetric" Motor for only 10-15 minutes...

Can You Guys SEE THE DIFFERENCE NOW?


Enjoy the Show...


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Incredibly Fantastic!

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Old 07-12-2012, 05:55 PM
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Wow, that is very impressive! How long would that run for?
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Well thats for real.

Congratulations!

Would you mind explaining more about the assymmetry?

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There is a crew here in Brazil which also claim this return energy from nature. I don't remember their name right now i'm trying to. However the prototype they shown was with a rotating permanent magnet...

I would like understand why opening the circuit instead of reversing the polarity give this effect. Is that correct you are simply opening the circuit right?

Still more questions in my mind...
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Enjoy the Show...

Cool stuff UFO! Thanks for sharing.

Definitely going to enjoy the show.

Just noticed that I got your Tesla video in my Einstein disproving article for quite some time:
Tuks Unsorted KieknWatTWordt Stuff : Ruins 96 Years Einstein Relativity

Thanks for that one also.

And of course, our hero had it right all along:

Tuks Unsorted KieknWatTWordt Stuff : Tesla Prepared Statement80st Birthday
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According to the relativists, space has a tendency to curvature owing to an inherent property or presence of celestial bodies. Granting a semblance of reality to this fantastic idea, it is still self-contradictory. Every action is accompanied by an equivalent reaction and the effects of the latter are directly opposite to those of the former. Supposing that the bodies act upon the surrounding space causing curvature of the same, it appears to my simple mind that the curved spaces must react on the bodies and, producing the opposite effects, straighten out the curves. Since action and reaction are coexistent, it follows that the supposed curvature of space is entirely impossible.

And BTW, Quantum Mechanics is flawed, too. See my posts here:
Gray Tube Replication
Gray Tube Replication

So, we're definitely going to see some changes.

We will see the revival of the good old aether theory. Paul Stowe laid an excellent foundation for a Unified Physic theory, using nothing but the assumption that there is an aether and it behaves like a fluid. And then everything drops at it's proper place:
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I have determined that in my opinion all of physical processes can be defined in terms of the aether populational momenta (p). Such that,

Force (F) -> Grad p
Charge (q) -> Div p
Magnetism (B) -> Curl p

Gravity for example is Grad E where E is the electric potential at x. This resolves to Le Sagian type process as outlined in the Pushing Gravity models. The electric potential E in turn is created by charge which is Div p...

My model is a direct extension of Maxwell's vortex model of interacting rings (the smoke ring model). I have been able to define all fundamental constants in terms of basic parameters, including the gravitational constant G. Further, G is, within this system, seamlessly integrated to all others, fitting into a unified system.
Keep up the good work, bro!

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Hey Shanjag,

I think you've got it all wrong dear, Farmhand and I go a long way back of long disputes , discussions and arguments, back and forth about FE and OU...and this I posted was a joke to him, He knows that...I know He will never change, no matter how many videos I will show...He will not trust any over-unity device, ever...

So, reserve your "critics" about two "senior members" arguments...


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It is definitely possible to extract energy from the aether. In fact, charge carriers such as electrons do that all the time. They extract energy from the aether and emit it in the shape of electric and magnetic fields, which are movements in/of the aether.

Prof. Claus Turtur made a straight forward calculation of the energy contained in the propagating electric field and shows that there is a constant energy exchange between charge carriers and the medium using nothing but Coulomb's law and the propagation speed of the electric field c.

I started writing an article about thee fundamental theory, based on a/o Turtur and Bearden, in which I explain that the electric field IS an energy source:

Article:Free Electric Energy in Theory and Practice - PESWiki

So far, I have not been able to find a design for a practical device that can be reliably replicated within a tiny budget. The Tesla switch is promising, but requires a lot of work, because the details are still unclear. The Joule thief and variants are also promising, but so far I have not seen anyone driving a decent motor. Edwin Gray's device is still a mystery, but progress is being made there, too. Stanley Meyer's device is also not completely understood and pretty complicated to replicate. And Don Smith's stuff is not that well documented nor understood, so all these are not the holy grail yet.

And now, out of the blue, we got a device that appears to work, appears to be well understood and appears to be relatively easy to replicate AND produce as well.

So, I am intrigued by what I have seen so far, which is just the photographs and the animation. We may very well have a winner here....
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Hi Ufo,

Fantastic work, congratulations!

How far out of left field would I be in saying that the device you have
just demonstrated is what the lockridge device is.

Generators wound with individual rotor windings and an additional brush
set to create the configuration you show.

Wonderful work.

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Fantastic work, congratulations!

How far out of left field would I be in saying that the device you have
just demonstrated is what the lockridge device is.

Generators wound with individual rotor windings and an additional brush
set to create the configuration you show.

Wonderful work.

Penno

Hello Penno,


Have you seen my Asymmetry to Enlightenment Video?

ASYMMETRY TO ENLIGHTENMENT - YouTube


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Congratulations! Thank You
Hi UFO, I wasn't being critical, or skeptical, I just was wondering why if you get
a C.O.P. of 2 or 200 % efficiency then why not show it. If you can't see the
value in people not "just believing" claims and asking for some validation, then
fair enough, just ignore me. For setups that claim to be efficient I'm
interested in efficiency and practicality. If no one ever questioned anything
there would be no balance. And there would be a big bias towards belief
rather than science. For setups that "do something" I'm interested in how well
they do it "Not necessarily efficiency".

I just asked if you were claiming over C.O.P. 1 and stated i would like to see
it. People keep saying things like "the gain cannot be measured", if that is the
case I don't see how can it be even detected.

Feel free to ignore me if you don't want to answer the questions, or feel free
to react any way you wish. But......

If we cannot ask for some in-out measurements then why are we here ?

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Wow....."That's what I'm Talkin about"...

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Looks good! Everything in science is so abstract and disconnected from reality these days, it's mass-ively refreshing to see a practical, working example to put things into context. Kudos for breaking the mold
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Ready to Wind

Thanks for all the info UFO, Great work on all the videos.

I purchased some similar small motors to the RS, although it maybe a little larger,
same five pole conf. and I am going to cut off the end of the second motor
and weld it to the first. (picture below)
The picture you posted, of yours, is a little vague on the windings, as it appears one
coil wraps on two poles.
I drew it out and looks like each pole has two windings around it, as left of one
winding and right side of the other winding.
CCW direction for us northern hemisphere.. Right.
Can you please clearify, for all of us.

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Hi Rl2003, the armature coil does wrap around 2 of the poles, then continue wrapping when done with that coil to the right or left, whichever direction you are choosing, start winding another coil over the next 2 poles to create the typical north on one end and south on other end.
These 2 coils are in series and will look like a pyramid or V shape when looking down shaft.
Hope that helps, as I intently studied all his videos and pictures and words.
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Unfortunately John, yes, motors have to be stripped off all wires, clean...The Symmetry most popular winding is the "Lap winding"...where Coils are all connected in a continuous loop and just passing by the commutator hooks to "bite them", they have very little turns (since from end to end of brushes it adds up since they are in series...That is a reason why Motors should be chosen as not having the heavy epoxy resin in wiring...it could become a nightmare...and more complicated process...some people boil them to strip them..The way to build a Motor the right way...after winding it, to epoxy high temp it, then get them in a vacuum chamber...so all the resin is impregnated deep inside compacting all wires to the Core...avoiding vibrations and damping noise...so, must of times is better a cheaper motor...that was built without that expensive procedure.
Here is a document explaining a/o "lap winding" and explains that the coils are indeed put in series:

http://ecourses.vtu.ac.in/nptel/cour...(EE)NPTEL).pdf

(copy: http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Reference_Mat...ings%20etc.pdf )

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Double layer lap or wave windings are generally used for armature. Essentially all the armature coils are connected in series forming a closed armature circuit. However as the coils are distributed, the resultant voltage acting in the closed path is zero thereby ensuring no circulating current in the armature. The junctions of two consecutive coils are terminated on to the commutator segments.
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