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Old 09-27-2007, 02:31 PM
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Info Mistakenly In Public Domain?

A "Livermore Physicist" has this to say :

"There's a Los Alamos website I'll send you, and then you can search there under “gravity shielding” and things like that. It’s all there.

[Note: the website is http://lanl.arxiv.org.]

Now, it may have been an error that it’s in the public domain. You might want to advise people to archive the pages they find there before they’re taken off the web once this gets out, if it does. But right now you can see it with your own eyes.

It’s hard to know what else to say."


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Old 09-27-2007, 03:00 PM
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Let me try that link again:

lanl.arXiv.org e-Print archive mirror
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Old 09-27-2007, 03:03 PM
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It would be good to look this over before using the info on the site. I just noticed this :

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Old 09-27-2007, 10:17 PM
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It would be good to look this over before using the info on the site. I just noticed this :

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No different than any other non-governmental site. Every server logs every single access from any IP address. That's just how the system works. Question is what the operators of those servers do with the data gathered.

In this case I do not see what they would do with my IP address anyway. If they did not want this data publicly available then they should take it off-line...
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Old 09-27-2007, 10:29 PM
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This statement may be standard too, I don't know : "Unauthorized or improper use of this system may result in administrative disciplinary action and civil and criminal penalties."

But that's the one that concerned me.

I think it is safe to say that you are right about how the site would not be up without some password needed if it were not intended to be publicly accessible.

Perhaps they are more warning against uploading false info to the site (?)


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Old 09-27-2007, 10:34 PM
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If you look at the bottom of http://lanl.arxiv.org/:

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arXiv is an e-print service in the fields of physics, mathematics, non-linear science, computer science, quantitative biology and statistics. The contents of arXiv conform to Cornell University academic standards. arXiv is owned, operated and funded by Cornell University, a private not-for-profit educational institution. arXiv is also partially funded by the National Science Foundation.
So this is not even LANL operated server but CU's, thus run by plain civilians - academics
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Old 09-27-2007, 10:47 PM
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Ok cool. I should probably post the web page I got the quote from so there is some reference :

Project Camelot | Interview with Henry Deacon, a Livermore Physicist

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Old 09-27-2007, 10:56 PM
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I also liked the part about entanglement.

He says it's not that hard to make a communications device you can't trace :

What else do you know as a physicist working on these projects?


OK. This may interest you if you have a physics background. You know what signal non-locality is, right? When two particles in different parts of the universe can apparently communicate with each other simultaneously, no matter what the distance. Communications devices have been made for communicating across vast distances and also locally using a methodology that’s impossible to eavesdrop on, because there's nothing traveling between the two devices that can be intercepted. It’s impossible to crack or codebreak or eavesdrop because no signal travels anywhere, so there’s no signal to be intercepted or decoded. It just doesn’t work like that.

The beauty of it is that the devices are actually so simple to build. You can create two chaotic circuits, on a couple of small breadboards using cheap components which anyone can buy, and they communicate with each other in this way. You can build these if you know how.


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According to Tom Bearden, this has already been done with the Fogal semiconductor of which he has personally witnessed. Instantaneous communication anywhere in the universe!
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Old 09-28-2007, 12:22 PM
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Can somebody make me one?


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Old 09-28-2007, 01:03 PM
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From what I understand, the manufacturing process is already underway as we speak (er, type ). Whether or not they're allowed (!) to proceed by certain 'vested interests' is another question altogether.
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Old 09-28-2007, 03:34 PM
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Interesting!!


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Old 09-28-2007, 10:46 PM
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my 2 cents

If Henry Deacon knows how to build one of those circuits then why didn't he explain how to. Especially if the parts are readily available in our local electronics stores as he claims.

I'm really sorry to say but the more I have seen of Project Camelot the more I am got the feel it's all BS and dis-information. Project Camelot is trying to create an urban myth or an urban legend, like many of other before them have done, and we are supposed to be jaw dropped based on someone saying so without a shred of physical evidence.

In this case Deacon could've drew a circuit on the napkin and let them video tape it. Was he afraid for his life?
If so that's a petty and selfish excuse if what he claims is true. Information like this would've been around the World in less than a day and so much out of control that it would not have mattered whether TPTB assassinated him or not at that point. Project Camelot would've been known in the annals of history as one of the greatest communication liberators that ever existed.
I tend to think he was instead trying to create an urban myth, ever so far (close) out of reach, yet ever so simple and within our grasps if only we were worth of it (or some other bogus excuse that people buy into).

What I actually feel to be more closer to the truth is that the whole New Age/UFO/etc movement is one big psy-op stew, where truth being the meat shows up on the surface from time to time after lots of stirring, but there's so little of it and it's sitting on layer upon layer of bones (lies) which they randomly toss at us as bate that nobody ever really get to taste it.

Worst off, those who are on top of the pyramid control that community have been peddling same old stories over and over again down their dis-information agents who add twist here and there, to keep the stew from cooling down and drying out the income.
Who really looks at the commercial value of the whole venture and how certain people are making tons of money on gullibility of others who simply want to believe (belief being their means of escape). Those gullible ones do not see that the solution is in front of their eyes and in their hands already - instead they prefer someone else to sell (metaphorically and physically) a lie to them that they will blindly believe as truth because they paid for it.
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