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Old 05-15-2012, 04:08 PM
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Lightbulb BrovinKacherTesla



Kacher_Brovine_Tesla_System.mp4 - YouTube

I think this is the schematic.



@Sergey, what do you think?



Thanks to Itsu, I have a legible schematic:

@Itsu,

20111211213444.mpg - YouTube

Thanks for that video. I see the schematic I was trying to find and was asking about.





Reference: Donald Smith Devices too good to be true

See caduceus coil on delamorto 1.wmv - YouTube

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Old 05-16-2012, 10:16 PM
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Thanks VidBid for openning up this new topic.
The concept of mixing kacher with Tesla seems interesting.
I might just have a study to go about this case too.
Please to whomever tried out this or have more info to post it here.
Thanks.Best Regards.
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Old 05-16-2012, 11:31 PM
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Hi,Vidbid!

Good idea.
I think you should invite zilano to this discussion
because she has very useful ideas.

Best regards,


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Old 05-17-2012, 01:22 AM
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Feedback Coil

I thought this design was interesting: Kacher Coil and Feedback Coil.

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Hi All

I will post here a simple replacement for electronic high voltage NST power supply which is required to run Don Smith an other similar setups.
I made Kacher NST High Voltage High Frequency ( 500kHz ) power supply which you can use for different experiments which requires high voltage power source.

The main difference to original Kacher circuit is that the High Voltage L2 secondary output coil is isolated from drive circuit. To accomplish this I made another L3 2 turn Feedback coil which is connected to Base pin of the NPN drive transistor.

Here are the components used in Test 1 and Test 2:


Here is the Schematic of Kacher NST using 720Turn secondary coil in Test 1:


Here is layout of Kacher NST using 720Turn secondary coil in Test 1:


Here is the Schematic of Kacher NST using 2x360Turn secondary coil and center tap connected to Earth ground in Test 2:


Here is the Layout of Kacher NST using 2x360Turn secondary coil and center tap connected to Earth ground in Test 2:


Here is the video of running setup:
KACHER NST - YouTube

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Old 05-17-2012, 01:27 AM
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Hi,Vidbid!

Good idea.
I think you should invite zilano to this discussion
because she has very useful ideas.

Best regards,


Sergey.
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Good idea, Sergey. Of course, she is always welcome.

@Berg
Good re-post.

@Peculian
You're welcome. Thanks for the input.
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Old 05-17-2012, 05:46 AM
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BrovinKacherTesla

One of the things I like about BrovinKacherTesla is the device is self-resonating.

With the L1 being the kacher coil and the L2 being the tesla coil, I could be wrong but it appears that using a L3 feedback coil allows for the input current to power the circuit to be considerably reduced.

So if you could somehow make this device be your radiant battery exciter, then it might be possible to then somehow combine it with a radiant collector.

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Use the output from the radiant collector to charge a large bank of capacitors.
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Old 05-17-2012, 10:11 AM
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I tried to charge cap between L2 and ground and av plug and cap charges very well.

capcharge.MOV - YouTube
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My 1st B.Kacher

Hello all,
Thanks for starting the thread.
Here is my 1st kacher replication schematic.

I got v v v good result.
I will post my video soon.

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Old 05-18-2012, 07:12 AM
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Ok. Here i uploaded my kacher video.
My 1st Kacher.wmv - YouTube
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Old 05-18-2012, 10:16 AM
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Ok. Here i uploaded my kacher video.
My 1st Kacher.wmv - YouTube
Working very well
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Ok. Here i uploaded my kacher video.
My 1st Kacher.wmv - YouTube
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Here is my 1st try of kacher.
Using only transistor 2N3055 and a 1K resistor.
Lsec 1000turns PVC pipe dia 2'', L1=5turns with 3''dia.
Awesome video. It looks like the e-field radiates out from the coils approximately a foot in length, lighting the fluorescent tube.
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Hello all,
Thanks for starting the thread.
Here is my 1st kacher replication schematic.

I got v v v good result.
I will post my video soon.

Kind regards,
D.J
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Ok. Here i uploaded my kacher video.
My 1st Kacher.wmv - YouTube
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Here is my 1st try of kacher.
Using only transistor 2N3055 and a 1K resistor.
Lsec 1000turns PVC pipe dia 2'', L1=5turns with 3''dia.
Awesome video. It looks like the e-field radiates out from the coils approximately a foot in length, lighting the fluorescent tube.
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I got v v v good result.
Yes you did. Thanks for sharing. Do you know what size wire you used?
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Yes you did. Thanks for sharing. Do you know what size wire you used?
Hello xee2,

I am fan of you.

If i am not wrong Primary 5turns of 1.35,space between windings, copper enameled and secondary 1000turns of 0.30mm diameter.


Kind Regards,
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air core ? can you measure frequency of output against the length of the wire approximately ? I wonder if 1/4 wavelength is resonant frequency here
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I tried to charge cap between L2 and ground and av plug and cap charges very well.
capcharge.MOV - YouTube
Hi scratchrobot,

thanks for publishing that video
and also for the other videos on your youtube channel
scratchrobo - YouTube
The capacitor you charge in the video, is that from a microwave oven? And did you "operate" it, i.e. take the resistor out?
If that is the case, did you afterwards refill it with the original liquid electrolyte or did you use another liquid?

And regarding the oscillator circuit you use in your video
hv-driver.MOV - YouTube
Is there a schematic available, somewhere?
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Hi scratchrobot,

thanks for publishing that video
and also for the other videos on your youtube channel
scratchrobo - YouTube
The capacitor you charge in the video, is that from a microwave oven? And did you "operate" it, i.e. take the resistor out?
If that is the case, did you afterwards refill it with the original liquid electrolyte or did you use another liquid?

And regarding the oscillator circuit you use in your video
hv-driver.MOV - YouTube
Is there a schematic available, somewhere?
Thanks
Yes the cap is from an microwave oven and i removed the resistor, i bend it open vrom the top and did not spil any oil.
I will draw a schematic of the circuit i use.

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Hey Scratch,

Your last video is impressive!


Any values on current draw for that full brightness ?

When you say RESONANCE v Non RESONANCE - what are you implying?

Regards, Penno
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....will draw a schematic of the circuit ...
Hi scratchrobot,

thanks for answering and offering to provide the circuit drawing.

Some more things that interest me:

1) the feedback oscillator shown in your newest videos, for example in
Resonant coil - YouTube
is that an "evolution" of the older version?
Did you make that printed circuit board for it?
What is better in this new version compared to your old oscillator?

2) The resonant coils in that same video
Resonant coil - YouTube
Both coils are evidently different from each other, i.e. the left one has a bigger diameter.

So: when you made them, did you purposefully wind them, to make them resonant, or is the resonance achieved purely by the position of the red antenna?

If the antenna's position is not solely responsible for resonance, then what parameters of the two coils must match, to achieve the effect shown in the video?

PS I am sorry to create work for you, like make you answer questions and draw diagrams.
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Old 05-27-2012, 02:54 PM
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Hi scratchrobot,

thanks for answering and offering to provide the circuit drawing.

Some more things that interest me:

1) the feedback oscillator shown in your newest videos, for example in
Resonant coil - YouTube
is that an "evolution" of the older version?
Did you make that printed circuit board for it?
What is better in this new version compared to your old oscillator?

2) The resonant coils in that same video
Resonant coil - YouTube
Both coils are evidently different from each other, i.e. the left one has a bigger diameter.

So: when you made them, did you purposefully wind them, to make them resonant, or is the resonance achieved purely by the position of the red antenna?

If the antenna's position is not solely responsible for resonance, then what parameters of the two coils must match, to achieve the effect shown in the video?

PS I am sorry to create work for you, like make you answer questions and draw diagrams.
Don't feel sorry because i'm happy to help you.
I used the same circuit in all my videos. It is just an 555 to start the oscilation and then the antenna (red wire) takes over. The circuit works with any coil, the antenna creates resonance. I'm sorry i have no time now to draw the circuit but i will do it tommorow.

Regards

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Hey Scratch,

Your last video is impressive!


Any values on current draw for that full brightness ?

When you say RESONANCE v Non RESONANCE - what are you implying?

Regards, Penno
When i say resonance i mean the antenna takes over to get resonance frequency, normaly the circuit runs at 100khz. When at resonance the current draw goes down and bulp is bright. I connect bulp at bottom of L2 coil.

Regards
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The circuit works with any coil, the antenna creates resonance.
That would be great. I am looking forward to seeing how you do this. Thanks for offering to post the circuit.
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Hi all

some update
hope this helps

good luck at all

Laurent

charging by induction approach 2.wmv - YouTube
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Hi woopy,

I am a big fan of your work.

Here are some text book style answers to your questions. The "cold electricity" is actually RF frequency AC. When you have sinusoidal AC the voltage is half the time positive and half the time negative. On a scope you can see this, but on a voltmeter the positive and negative parts cancel each other out. So the meter reads zero (because the meter can not respond fast enough to show the changing voltage). The current is also half of the time going one way and the other half going the other way which causes a DC amp meter to read zero since the needle can not go back and forth as fast as the current so it just stays put. This will also cause a compass held near wire to not be effected by the AC current since again the needle can not go back and forth as fast as the current changes. The wire around the battery is the secondary of a transformer with the primary being the current flow in the battery. Current is flowing out of the battery at RF frequency. Putting a capacitor across the battery will reduce this RF current flow in the battery. Note that in many circuits high voltage spikes are being fed back into the battery which can be capacitively coupled to a plate. As the frequency of the AC increases the current flows more and more along the surface of the conductor (including you). At RF frequencies the current is only hundredths of an inch deep and not as deep as the nerves in your skin. That is why you do not feel a shock from RF current. However, if the current is strong enough it will burn your skin (called RF burns).

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Hmm...then we should investigate ways to construct shield against that RF field.

Woopy : Can neon tube be lit near the battery container or it will require you touching the battery box with one terminal of neon tube while grasping by hand the center or tube or other end ?
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Yes the cap is from an microwave oven and i removed the resistor, i bend it open vrom the top and did not spil any oil.
I will draw a schematic of the circuit i use.

Thanks
Wow you managed to bend the top of the cap?!!!! Mine I made a cut and had to do silicone. Maybe I will try to bend it open next time as you've did.
Thanks for sharing.
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Hi Xee2

thank's for the writing, very interesting , will read more about those RF

Hi Boguslaw

Yes every CFL lights more or less depending on the Kacher i use. It seems that when i use my long Kacher (Slayer exciter ) the CFL light is very powerfull and the frequency is low (about 350kHz). With my super flat Kacher where the frequency is much higher (about 1 MHz ) the CFL reacts less good. But both can create the arcing in the car coil.

Hope this helps.

Good luck at all

Laurent
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Hi Xee2

thank's for the writing, very interesting , will read more about those RF

Hi Boguslaw

Yes every CFL lights more or less depending on the Kacher i use. It seems that when i use my long Kacher (Slayer exciter ) the CFL light is very powerfull and the frequency is low (about 350kHz). With my super flat Kacher where the frequency is much higher (about 1 MHz ) the CFL reacts less good. But both can create the arcing in the car coil.

Hope this helps.

Good luck at all

Laurent

No,no. I mean : if you place kacher at distance from battery so far away that kacher should not light neon tube wireless I would like to know if neon tube can be lit by touching it to battery plastic or maybe even battery will spread field to near air. But surely you have to place it far away from kacher so the air ionization from kacher can be dismissed as a source of energy. Then your theory can be proved.
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Kacher

What transistors can be used other than MJE13009 for this circuit?
Is the source battery charging as I understood in the vid?
Thanks

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OK Boguslaw

here is probably what you wanted to see

good luck

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