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Old 05-05-2012, 12:35 AM
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Leslie did not say they found the body on the 29th of January. If you read carefully she said the email was sent on the 29th of January from her friend Sergei. Nobody mentions when Dimitri's body was actually found but according to Marina's interview it would have been at least 2 weeks before the 17th of January do the first week of January or lst week of December seems likely. But then again, in murder cases involving mobsters, government agents, or unidentified people the cops sometimes do not release their reports to the media or delay doing so while they try to find/trap the killer. I mean sometimes it better for them to keep quiet or t least delay stuff hitting the newspapers.

Or as you say, maybe he is still alive and they want everyone to think he is dead, but then I would ask... for what reason? Right now I think the most impotant thing is to find out the real true role of this Zachary character.

Side Note: Thanks KCJones for your note but what you are talking about are the first generation of nuclear batteries called "RTGs" which were first used in 1961 when NASA launched the voyager. This link has a photo of one Nuclear Generators Power NASA Deep Space Probes (Infographic) | Radioisotope Thermoelectric Generators (RTGs) | Plutonium-238 Power | Space.com But those batteries were highly radiactive and worked on a completely different principal. By all indications this new nuclear battery called the Thorium plasma battery or "TPB" do not use fission nor decay (like other voltaic batteries) and have the same radiation level as a cell phone.
With all due respect, if the tech is secret how can you say how much
radiation is emitted ? Is there any credible source of info in a technical form
to back that statement up.

After all you are "telling" us how much radiation a Thorium Plasma Battery
emits, how could you know this information without a source ?

Please provide some kind of verification.

How could you possible say how much radiation they emit without knowing
how they work or measuring one.

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Old 05-06-2012, 05:08 AM
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With all due respect, if the tech is secret how can you say how much
radiation is emitted ? Is there any credible source of info in a technical form
to back that statement up.

After all you are "telling" us how much radiation a Thorium Plasma Battery
emits, how could you know this information without a source ?

Please provide some kind of verification.

How could you possible say how much radiation they emit without knowing
how they work or measuring one.

Cheers
I just answered this question at this thread ...

How can these radioactive Thorium plasma batteries be safe?

So I will cut and paste my answer here in case anyone else does not know about these other sources:

Green Energy Technology Suppression Exposed

If you go Google and read the links especially this one here, you will see that in 2010 there was quite a bit of information and specifications at Office of Scientific and Technical Information, OSTI, U.S. Department of Energy which is the official database site for the DoE. Sometime in late 2010 all those posts were deleted without explanation. My memory is not photographic but I do remember some of the details. You can also still get some information that the censors overlooked, and the physical properties of Thorium are well known. And since only the Th232 isotope would be the most practical and easiest choice it is not to difficult to extrapolate basic conclusions.
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Old 05-06-2012, 09:29 AM
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There is another Patent out now, with # WO2011/011504.
But since the Inventor is listed as Zeev Shayer, i am not sure how reliable this Patent is.
I uploaded it to scribd.com, you may need to make an account to view it.
WO2011011504A1
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Old 05-07-2012, 12:41 AM
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Great news Joit - This helps fend of the doubters

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There is another Patent out now, with # WO2011/011504.
But since the Inventor is listed as Zeev Shayer, i am not sure how reliable this Patent is.
I uploaded it to scribd.com, you may need to make an account to view it.
WO2011011504A1

This should help silence the people who are too lazy to read and research anything but take less than a minute to call us "conspiracy nuts".
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So far I have only seen blogs, I don't have time to read blogs. Not every source
of information is independent many just report what they are given or find out
about the incident. But do they fact check ?

This link doesn't work for me. Office of Scientific and Technical Information, OSTI, U.S. Department of Energy

And as far as this patent goes-it's about Nuclear batteries isn't it ? Of course
I may be misunderstanding or just plain missed where it is written to be safe.

A quote from the patent below

WO2011011504A1

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After its operational life, it may be replaced by another module, and the old
module may be transported to a nuclear waste repository site or a fuel recycling system.
And just to be clear I was just asking questions as we all should. I'm not
accusing anyone of being anything. At least I don't recall doing that.

EYECU, If it was me you refer to that called someone a conspiracy nut then
please point out where so I can make a full retraction.

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And just to be clear I was just asking questions as we all should. I'm not
accusing anyone of being anything. At least I don't recall doing that.

EYECU, If it was me you refer to that called someone a conspiracy nut then
please point out where so I can make a full retraction.

Regards
Relax Joit I was just speaking in general terms. None of us have enough time to read everything and the biggest problem about this matter seems to be censorship. Someone is getting the most credible links from scientists deleted at other news and log sites - just like they did to the white papers that were posted at Office of Scientific and Technical Information, OSTI, U.S. Department of Energy two years ago. The feds are slick for sure. But to be honest, I'm not sure if the feds or the oil companies are behind the hacking. The other big problem we have is that there are a lot of people who agree with what Patriot said. I found this other link and I can't believe these people are so gung-ho and ignorant. http://www.patriotscorner.com/forums...=14473&p=80347

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Not sure if this particular document has been directly posted before in this discussion but by the time I was a third of the way through it I was so impressed with the overall picture being put together by Bob Greene (presidential candidate from New Hampshire) PhD that I think every one would benefit by seeing it. He is starting a grassroots effort for Thorium based power. His web site home page clearly states this: Bob Greene for President - Official Website

Here's the pdf http://www.greeneforoffice.org/uploa...asicsdraft.pdf

It's an easy and very well researched read on energy. With the amount of research put into this I think there is little doubt Thorium could be a major energy source in the future if enough people demand it. This document not only details how it would be better for the health of the people and planet but how it will be so much better for the U.S. economy then the path we are on now.

Also see Flibe Energy a local U.S. company whose mission is to supply the world with affordable and sustainable energy, water, and fuel from thorium.

From what I have read now thorium is a much better choice than coal, natural gas, traditional nuclear and almost every other alternative that is currently in use. However I wonder if it will be better than LENR based technologies like Rossi's E-cat and so on if those take hold. Given the choice of fission versus fusion I think fusion is a safer choice overall if everything else is equal. However at this moment LENR is does not seem as ready as Thorium would seem to be. That is to say that it appears the only thing holding back thorium is politics.

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Old 05-08-2012, 05:13 AM
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Yes ewizard, I agree LFTR tech beats the traditional Nuclear method hands down.
I think we need to be careful not to confuse the difference between
a "Liquid Fluoride Thorium Reactor" and a so called "Nuclear Thorium Plasma Battery".

The impression I get of a NTPB (Nuclear Thorium Plasma Battery) as it is being
touted, is that it is completely safe and could be placed in close proximity to
children and pregnant women permanently, it would require no "clean up" as it
is already safe and even if physically destroyed in part or full it would present
no irradiation problems for anyone.

I agree 100% that all new "large" reactors built should be LFTR type or as safe as.
I don't have any opinion on Nuclear Thorium Plasma Batteries until I have some
solid info to go on.

Personally I don't want any commercial nuclear reactors in my country at all
of any kind period. But that's just my opinion.

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Hi Farmhand, I also agree with that - all of it. I actually got a bit off topic probably as I haven't kept up on this thread and found myself surfing further and further into anything 'thorium'. Just a wild speculation at this point but I think the thorium plasma battery could probably be made as safe if not safer than lithium ion batteries and lithium ion is in extremely wide use in cell phones, laptops, flashlights and lots of other electronic gizmo's. Lithium ion batteries are well known to explode, catch fire in a way that is very hard to extinguish and when they burn or explode put off very dangerous fumes. One whiff can land you in the hospital. Most of these problems occur when recharging and sometimes when discharging. The fact that thorium plasma would not need charging and that it would not face some of the haphazard situations people put lithium ion batteries in by the very nature that they would not need to be removed from a device would in itself make it a safer battery. As long as containment of the battery is done right I think it is a good choice.
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Old 05-09-2012, 06:51 AM
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I uploaded it to scribd.com, you may need to make an account to view it.
WO2011011504A1
If pressed (extorted) to give them money, for what they steal from everyone else,
then force you to pay for the download as free as was intended by the uploader.

Just make a text file filled with one hundred copy/paste'd lines of:
"ScribD steals people's IP, and then charges you to download them"
and upload that instead of letting them extort money from you...

Yeah, you do have to make a free account to get prompted for
the "Free download if you upload" option to use that method...
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Maybe I spoke to soon?

Okay, maybe I spoke too soon. I just saw this link which was emailed to me by my cousin.

Should Technology Suppression Be A Felony Crime Requiring A Mandatory 5 Year Prison Sentence?

Yeah, I guess this may be a bit much to all be just a coincidence, but really, this is just too big to cover up. I mean, like over a thousand people in the government must know about it right? The chances of them all keeping their trap shut is not very likely. Has anyone made any Freedom Of Information requests on this yet?
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Basic Info About Thorium & Plasma Energy


In follow up to Farmhand's questions here are basics on both Thorium and Plasma Energy. Once you understand both, watch the last half of the PBS documentary on Tesla's plasma energy experiments, research the power of lightning (pure plasma energy) and you will understand why this battery will probably change our world forever - no more metered energy or buying any fuel by the gallon. As for the radiation worries, relax. The TH232 isotope has a half life of 14 million years - see the below radiation chart. You will fry your brain quicker with a cell phone in only 320 years, if you can find a way to live that long and if you talked on your cell phone for 12 hours 365 days a year.

Thorium Facts - Periodic Table of the Elements

http://www.greeneforoffice.org/uploa...asicsdraft.pdf

Plasma Science and Technology

Tesla: Master of Lightning | Watch Free Documentary Online


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Holy Mother of God!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think you guys need to see this. My wife just got it from an RSS link -

Green Plasma Battery - Former DoE Employee Admits Cover-Up In Progress - Science Forums
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Well you can see how far a patent will get ya, we knew this all along,
but it is nice to see a post from someone that has seen it firsthand.
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Time for some serious legal action I think

DoE Technology Suppression This link was just forwarded to me. I think America has completely slid right off that proverbial "slippery slope".

I hope Greenpeace, The Sierra Club, or maybe the ACLU can take the DoE to Court and hold their feet to the legal fire and force the truth the surface publicly. I am up for organizing something but frankly don't have the budget for it. Anyone have any better ideas out there?
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commercial nuclear batteries tested

check this link

Hyperion to build nuclear pod at DOE test site — Cleantech News and Analysis
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Thanks northrup.
But i got an error when i want to view yours. Did you convert it new?
There is something like jbig 2 is currently not supported, but seems like, its the pdf viewer add on from Firefox.
At last it works with saving it local and view it with an other Program.
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degeus patents

Patent for some of DeGeus' earlier work
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This moves proves government had plasma technology for years...

I just watched this fascinating documentary about Tesla and more importantly what the U.S. government has been secretly doing with his plasma energy theories for years - developing portable plasma power plants, plasma batteries, and the now, and the now well-known radio-wave weapon system in Alaska known as HAARP. So I guess we are the last to know about nuclear plasma energy batteries. Take note that this incredible movie was just made last year!

The-Eye-of-the-Storm_The-Inventions-of-Nikola-Tesla : Adventures Unlimited : Free Download & Streaming : Internet Archive

I also noticed that the link at Gizmodo.com about Panasonic developing a new sealed cell phone that never needs charging is now "No longer available". The rumors are that Panasonic's push into the mobile phone market will be a version of this phone with a plasma battery as we have been discussing. I saved this photo from the gizmodo.com link since I was looking into buying the cool new phone.


This now makes 32 non-forum links related to the plasma battery including the seven links once posted at July Homepage | OSTI, Office of Scientific and Technical Information, USDOE and the the three 2009 NASA links that have been magically deleted from the Internet. Clearly Uncle Sam wants us all to just forget about this awesome plasma energy technology. A thousand government hackers will not ever delete my memory about this nifty technology.

I also read the following in the June edition of the Air Force aerospace technology newsletter my father still gets (retired colonel once stationed at Vandenberg AFB) which really removes all doubts for me...

"Air force officials would not comment on the new plasma propulsion system being developed for the X-37 C model due to security restrictions imposed on all DARPA projects."


The fact that this x-37 project was switched from NASA to DARPA funding also suggests it is clearly being used to weaponize space and my guess is that it being used as an ASAT weapon - targeting Russian and Chinese satellites that could be instantly blinded with radiation (neutron beams) from a 100% robotic space version of the Predator. Using a plasma energy battery instead of fragile solar panels could keep the new X-37 in permanent orbit patrol. Here is more info on the X-37

http://www.skuggen.com/wp-content/up...10/04/X-37.jpg

I think we all now know what is going on and why. It is a sad day in our world when weapons technology takes priority over breathing cleaning air and drinking clean water.

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Great explanation on plasma battery technology cover-up but...

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I just watched this fascinating documentary about Tesla and more importantly what the U.S. government has been secretly doing with his plasma energy theories for years - developing portable plasma power plants, plasma batteries, and the now, and the now well-known radio-wave weapon system in Alaska known as HAARP. So I guess we are the last to know about nuclear plasma energy batteries. Take note that this incredible movie was just made last year!

The-Eye-of-the-Storm_The-Inventions-of-Nikola-Tesla : Adventures Unlimited : Free Download & Streaming : Internet Archive

I also noticed that the link at Gizmodo.com about Panasonic developing a new sealed cell phone that never needs charging is now "No longer available". The rumors are that Panasonic's push into the mobile phone market will be a version of this phone with a plasma battery as we have been discussing. I saved this photo from the gizmodo.com link since I was looking into buying the cool new phone.


This now makes 32 non-forum links related to the plasma battery including the seven links once posted at July Homepage | OSTI, Office of Scientific and Technical Information, USDOE and the the three 2009 NASA links that have been magically deleted from the Internet. Clearly Uncle Sam wants us all to just forget about this awesome plasma energy technology. A thousand government hackers will not ever delete my memory about this nifty technology.

I also read the following in the June edition of the Air Force aerospace technology newsletter my father still gets (retired colonel once stationed at Vandenberg AFB) which really removes all doubts for me...

"Air force officials would not comment on the new plasma propulsion system being developed for the X-37 C model due to security restrictions imposed on all DARPA projects."


The fact that this x-37 project was switched from NASA to DARPA funding also suggests it is clearly being used to weaponize space and my guess is that it being used as an ASAT weapon - targeting Russian and Chinese satellites that could be instantly blinded with radiation (neutron beams) from a 100% robotic space version of the Predator. Using a plasma energy battery instead of fragile solar panels could keep the new X-37 in permanent orbit patrol. Here is more info on the X-37

http://www.skuggen.com/wp-content/up...10/04/X-37.jpg

I think we all now know what is going on and why. It is a sad day in our world when weapons technology takes priority over breathing cleaning air and drinking clean water.
I have done a complete 360 on my thinking about this plasma battery technology, especially after reading the above post and then finding this unbelievable link which explains the internet censorship on the "official story" of this break through tech.

DoE Technology Suppression

Too bad more people don't know about this shady stuff.
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Another sensational story for global conspiracy-minded folks about murdered scientist Dimitri Petronov, who invented something wonderful and obscure, is a 100% hoax. I'm from Russia, there was no any scientist with such name, Dimitri Petronov is not even a Russian name.
A fake photo is taken from some US company website: Wison Offshore & Marine (USA), Inc. - Kent Davies | Technology Consultant

Unfortunately, the Internet consists of 99,999% crap.
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Outrageous!
Relax! While the Bush admin may have pulled off the crime of the century, regime secrecy and suppression are never as successful as their authoritarian command. The US military industrial complex couldn't even keep it's nuclear weapons plans secret for long. If thorium were suppressed, I wouldn't have heard about it nor would there be so many current projects underway, in spite of the so-called 'disadvantages' of the technology.

Sorry to disappoint you but Wikileaks isn't about to reveal Stanley Meyers' or anyone else's secrets anytime soon because there simply are none!

You're a victim of confirmation bias. Remember those trash tabloids at supermarket checkouts with stories like 'Mom Gives Birth to Alien Twins'? Well, that's what the internet has become--everyone's competing for attention, peddling ever more sophisticated bull**** and now they've got you to thank for spreading .... that's not your site, is it?

Always note the source of your data.
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The best way to coverup is to mess truth with a complete bull****.....one cup of wood tar is enough to spoil the barrel of honey....
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If Uncle Sam Says "its A Hoax" You Know It Is Not!

When I started this thread over a year ago, I expected to be ridiculed by some but I knew the bulk of you would be objective and listen. Thanks. Here is what I just learned through a very good friend of my father's who retired from the ONR (Office of Naval Research) lab about six months ago. America will never need to build another aircraft carrier. Why? See below:


The new generation of X-37, X-45, X-47, X-57, and X-67 space and aircraft all use the Thorium plasma battery and the X-67 uses no jet nor internal combustion engines but rather "plasma magnetics propulsion". I don't want to say how this technology was acquired or I will be labeled a loon for sure. But the X-67 has unlimited range and endurance - similar to but better than the X-37 but for different reasons you can figure out on your own. Imagine a fighter/bomber drone that orbits in space until needed to descend upon it's victim at a moment's notice. These babies can loiter endlessly over "hostile" nations and within 3 minutes notice, unleash massive destruction on any foe.


The point is that in very recent years, over 3,000 people have been reporting UFO sightings of crafts that are "diamond" or "triangle shaped" in over 2 dozen locations around the world. Look at the X47 above. Now do you understand why the government always claims UFO sightings to just be a "hoax". And if they do not say it officially, a team of disinformation specialists will do it anonymusly in public forums - just like this one. Sometimes national security is really that critical and sometimes disclosure cannot be stopped. See this link for an example and notice that some of these photos are frpom 2001-2011.

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_...ying Triangles

Similarly, the Navy has developed "Seeker/Follower" Mark 48 nuclear torpedoes also powered with Thorium Plasma Batteries that will seek out and follow any enemy ship or submarine automatically for months at a time awaiting an activation signal to attack and destroy. They are undetectable by sonar since they follow in the wake area of a ship or turbulence cone of a submarine mimicking the same identical "noise" (audio profile) of the target ship so their presence is completely masked. Surely, the government will also claim this is a hoax as well, even though scuba divers in Puerto Rico have seen them being tested near Vieques Island where the now Defunct Roosevelt Roads Navy Base remains. Why are 200+ U.S. Naval personnel still stationed there? Guess. Rumor has it that the new Torpedo can be launched by aircraft (Like the P3 Orion) or by submarine and surface vessels. The new torpedo is made by Raytheon and is called the "Fish Hawk" at present. Why we await a war that hopefully never comes, Mother Nature remains the ultimate victim of technology suppression.


Since I have nothing further to add to this topic, I will now crawl back into my hole and research other "mysteries" that are anything but. Ciao!

Did Thorium Plasma Battery Inventor Have Help From Visitors? - Green Energy Reports - Open Salon


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The link is not working

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The firet link in your post does not work?

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I also found the link through google (see below) but I cannot get it to open on my computer...

NAVY SECRETS - The Flying Triangles
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack....es.html‎
Jun 12, 2009 TUCSON, Az: Raytheon Company submitted its KillerBee unmanned aircraft system in response to the U.S. Navy's Small Tactical Unmanned ...

What is interesting about the above link is the date (2009) which jives with the 2006 debut of the Thorium plasma battery. What people don't seem to realize is this is a 3rd generation device that evolved from the original RPG into something much better, safer, and far more energy efficient.


I also found a similar link making reference to the new Fish Hawk torpedo kit but that link is broken. But to clarify, the Raytheon Fish Hawk is just a kit to make the stealth nuclear hunter/follower torpedo launchable from an aircraft as explained here... Raytheon Missile Systems Fish Hawk in p-8i.... the only one of its kind.
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Talking Thorium Discussion

Greetings Gents

I saw mention of my thorium work from the 90's in this Forum. Also some discussion about some psionic technology (another subject in a different section of the Forum).

For the most part, I agree with the people who have noticed that when there is a key breakthrough being discussed in the threads, some distraction appears. Lots of reasons for that.

I have also personally experienced the US patent confiscation phenomenon in the early 70's. Pretty crappy that such can be done. I won't do a US patent EVER for those reasons FIRST. Patent elsewhere, there are like 201 places one can do that, and patent in the US LAST. If they want to confiscate in the US so what then.

Folks have said I see in this thread, use other items, play around with gamma rays on the table top, explore fusion, fission or whatever. Kinda nuts to do any of that without the proper monitors, safety and shielding. One can rent facilities in a University with a proper program and Lead Principle Scientist willing to work with one. It can be done, and one would establish credibility of the data can be peer reviewed and tested, documented. Be ware of any Patent surrender documents they most likely will make you sign.

SO does thorium technology work. Yes.

What the US government and all the rest of the spooks are not wanting you to realize is the NEUTRON GENERATOR, which is the key to any FREE ENERGY project. That is not rocket science, and it is published public domain information.

The US government has a program called DENIAL OF EXPORT, or conducting a DEEMED EXPORT. Eh? You mean UPS can't ship my computer to Canada without proper paperwork? It's more than that guys.

When on these Forums people make a presentation of something key, there is a new policy being enforced by the Bureau of Industrial Security - see BIS Redesign This is one spooky place out of 3 that the US Government uses to restrict ANY technology export.

A technology export can consist of public posting of a restricted technology to any foreign national. That can happen in a paper, in a forum posting, in a PRIVATE discussion to a foreign national in a PRIVATE meeting, where the technology has not FIRST been cleared by the US Government agencies.

They use these EXPORT RULES as the current method of restricting and busting people for disclosing to a foreign national ANYTHING Nuclear, anything that can be a weapons system or navigation system, or improvement which will give "the Enemy" any edge financially, militarily or politically.

I bring this up as I was over on the Arabian Peninsula recently, invited there by a Foreign National to meet them and see if I was interested in "helping them" with numerous projects. In reality when I got there I found out it was to be lured into presenting technologies such as unique building techniques (which could end up being used on missile housings or nozzles), on "free energy technology" (such as the thorium technologies), and unique methods to defeat "stealth aircraft". Spooky really.

Luckily I was familiar with the BIS and the Export Laws and I pointed out to my "Arabian Friends" as they liked to be called, that it would be impossible to discuss with them one IOTA of what they want to know about without the proper LICENSES in place from the US Government. Well that went over like a lead balloon I managed to get back to the US safely, but they sent me a ONE WAY FIRST CLASS ticket back ! Now wonder what all that was about..

I was told by one of them, you know, you can so easily just renounce your US Citizenship and have NO CITIZENSHIP and have this super passport and not worry about having to report technology inquires..

SO imagine, folks on the Arabian Peninsula asking about FREE ENERGY when their interests have demonstrated OIL was the mindset.

There have been article postings about the Energy Inventors mysteriously dying, being poisoned, disappearing, or attacked. It does happen. I met Eugene Malov personally and had some time to discuss with him what was up before he was killed. His big thing was the rotating water under extreme pressure excess energy creation. Folks jumped into that and said it was rotating torsion fields (which it was clearly NOT that), but that was the spin put on it again to distract folks to get off into some side-tracking disinformation.

Back to the thorium battery. That which "they" don't want you to ever know about, nor think about, nor experiment with is any cheap low cost source of neutrons. That is the key to ALL of these systems, all of these batteries, all of the fusion and fission systems, and of course all of the pieces of "majik" ever talked about dealing with transmutation.

I mentioned in my article way back in the 90's that neutrons can be created low cost easily, switched on and off. And cost effectively. When that is done 60X energy output is the theoretical max that is available from using thorium.

The gig to put thorium in a plasma is really not needed, all that is a distraction, get your neutron generator going. Scintillation methods and shielding systems around the detector can tailor your monitor to pick up gamma and neutrons.

Of course the fear that the powers that be really dont want to talk about is in weapons development dual use issues, because low cost neutron generators can be applied to uranium dirty elements.

IN the course of experiments back in the 90's, I had the opportunity to explore some really unique energy storage (and release systems), these being called nuclear isomers. A stable nuclear isomer which can be triggered to release all its stored energy is horrendous. As a power source its unbelievable how much energy is present - compared to a thermonuclear weapon of multiple kilotons a device based on isomers can be the size of a 3/4 inch ring of samarium. Scares the bejezus out of the spooks.

These Isomer devices are accidentally stumbled upon when an accident occurs when a "free energy" experimenter has a problem when his device mysteriously catastrophically fails. I had a few of those in the early days when charging up systems and had spontaneous un-explained (at the time) discharges. During those discharges one see phenomenal amounts of over unity energy. So there is another hint to go exploring in the science behind ISOMER PRODUCTION, NUCLEAR.

There you go.

I'm still active but not public. I have constant stalker threats, stalkers taken away in cuffs (to simply be let off by sympathetic on the take legal types), had death threats and have reported to the FBI, Federal Trade Commission (Identity theft), local police, Attorney General's offices. They don't care, they would rather not be bothered, complaining about no funds to pay their officers.

I may get more active in Forums again. A lot of research has happened since the 90s and it may or may not be published. Looking at Open Source on a lot of this.

Cheers
Bob
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Thanks for showing up!!

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Seems the world is racing full steam ahead At the moment!
Funny how the Boyz that build the Golden sand castles from their Oil reserves want Free energy Now!

Greedy is as Greedy does!!

Thank you for the Clarity and the interesting info,sorry for your troubles !

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