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Old 04-21-2012, 12:42 AM
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Just when we start getting into a good, POSSIBLY productive conversation, about HOW this technology works, and how it could be used to build something that MIGHT work, we get jerked off coarse, and back into a BS discussion, and ultimately p*ssing contest, between 2 *ssholes who will continue to insult each other, NEVER persuade the other one that they are 'right', and for what????

Who the F CARES about all this BS? JUST cause someone posts something that YOU think is 'wrong', or BS, or whatever, DOESN'T mean you HAVE to respond! Grow up and MOVE ON, for Christs sake!!!!Jeese,....Jim
Not once did I insult anyone, I pointed out the massive holes in the arguments of someone who's first post started off with an insult*. You make the assumption that my arguments are an insult. And post with insults.

Remember: when you point a finger at someone, 3 point right back at you.

* In the context of someone who claims to have served in the Military, the connotation of "tree hugger" is as a derogatory comment.
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Old 04-21-2012, 10:20 AM
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Hows about Reporting this Patriot (Red Button right above at his Posts).

Its kinda disturbing for me and maybe for other also, when you 'are on something' and the Topic get disturbed with Posts like he do, but thats probatly his Intention.

Could be that he has not much else to do, a lot ex-army Employees what i know now sit at home, have nothing to do and are sick alcoholics, what have no Sense for reality anymore.
And now the Internet is full with them too.
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Old 04-21-2012, 05:14 PM
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Whatever,..

As the 2 main protagonists in this little drama kept accusing each other of isults, while insisting THEY weren't insulting anyone, and, to mymind niether was doing more than, perhaps, using derogatory terms, I thought I'd make a clear example of the difference; "Treehugger" is derogatory, *sshole is an insult.
To my mind, if ANYONES going to be 'Red Buttoned" send BOTH to their seperate corners.No one needs to "Red Button" me, as (Having TRIED to get this thread back on topic, and failed) I'm giving up on it. Not THAT interested in this technology anyway. In any case, I'm confident any 'moderator' who reads my posts will see I made an honest attempt to steer the conversation away from pointless debates, and towards discussing the technology.

And speculating on someones motives for their behavior, or making generalisations about Veterans, is eaqually a waste of time, words and the I-net.

Amasing to me that we have this WONDERFUL new tool, enabling us to share ideas with people fromaround the world, and THIS is what we choose to do with it???? Human BEANS; "Legumes with legs!!!"Jim
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Well, for me is any form of debasing a form of insult, no matter what the word is.
But i actually only report Spammer and heavy disturber. And they appear any time when a Topic is here, where someone is on something. The best thing you can do is to use this red button, to avoide further useless and fruitless Discussions, but its not for send someone into her corner, but to remove them completely.
I blame the Peoples what did set up this System for the behave of Peoples, they educated them well for her Purpose and formed her public Opinions that they serve them.
This kind of Disruptors are anywhere, in a lot of Topics, but when they think, they wanna express her Opinions, then they can do that at an other Place, another Forum. But its even more worse, that there are Writers, what intentionally interrupt Topics, and its not that you will sit that out, because they will stay like .. well, longer as most others, when you let them go on.
The easiest way there is indeed report them at her first attempt.


Just another Example from Technology supression, i read lately about the Elsbett motor, a engine what use cold air in the chamber beside the normal Gas. The engine needs lesser Fuel and has more Power. They won a Race with this Engine, the news simple did ignore them, and not even show them as Winner in the list, and that was even our common automobile club.
This is not even a big breakthrough at something, only a Improvement. Beside that now a few other Companys try to build similar Principles, but, of course, try to let Peoples pay for any step in the developing this 'complicated Principle'.
But its nothing where you can win a War with it, its simple something to save Resources and make a efficiency engine, but even that is restricted like much more too because of the greed and 'national Security Reasons' from certain Groups. Thats just like, let the Fools bleed for her stupidity.
For me, the Guys what think, they need to win a War are not much better as the one what build the Bombs, because they destroy this Planet too by supporting further exploitation and destroying the Resources.
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Old 04-21-2012, 07:38 PM
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As the 2 main protagonists in this little drama kept accusing each other of isults, while insisting THEY weren't insulting anyone, and, to mymind niether was doing more than, perhaps, using derogatory terms, I thought I'd make a clear example of the difference; "Treehugger" is derogatory, *sshole is an insult.
To my mind, if ANYONES going to be 'Red Buttoned" send BOTH to their seperate corners.No one needs to "Red Button" me, as (Having TRIED to get this thread back on topic, and failed) I'm giving up on it. Not THAT interested in this technology anyway. In any case, I'm confident any 'moderator' who reads my posts will see I made an honest attempt to steer the conversation away from pointless debates, and towards discussing the technology.

And speculating on someones motives for their behavior, or making generalisations about Veterans, is eaqually a waste of time, words and the I-net.

Amasing to me that we have this WONDERFUL new tool, enabling us to share ideas with people fromaround the world, and THIS is what we choose to do with it???? Human BEANS; "Legumes with legs!!!"Jim
for stating that you were the only one doing the insulting.
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I thought about that too, but its only a comparison.
I usual say, everyone got one, i meet mine each time (at work, but right now in my neighbourhood). But that then its more like an insult, even when its kinda true.
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"Everyone's GOT one

and most ALL of us, at one time or another, ARE one. Certainly applies to me, I know. In fact, most often when I am REALLY ticked off about something, and 'sounding off', after I calm down and sleep on it, I realise "Oh, I was being a real *sshole!"
But then, definition of "Hind Sight"; The FIRST thing you SEE, when you jerk your head out of your *ss!
They have a new kind of Dr., a specialist thats a cross between a Chiropractor and a Proctologist. The idea is to jerk your head out of your *ss, and 'adjust' the spine so it doesn't go back in. But, like a 'regular' Chiropractor, its only a 'treatment', not a cure, and you have to keep going back for 'adjustments'; I go every couple of weeks, and gotta admit, I'm 'Overdue'!
There is a surgery they can do, for extreme cases; they surgically implant a plexiglas window in your belly, so at least you can see where the *ell your going! I AM considering it, actually,....

Guess I'm feeling like Rodney King; "Hey, can't we all just get along????"

How about 'ageeing to disagree', and 'moving on'? ANd, once again, how about focusing on the subject of alternate technologies, and not getting all caught up in whether there is or isn't a conspiracy to supress technologies, and whether this is or isn't a good thing?

The last 4 or 5 posts, including mine, haven't doone a THING towards moving anyone closer to developing Thorium as a battery, or source of energy, or ANYTHING. So, our 'Patriot' has made it clear. HE thinks there are technologies that SHOULD be suppressed by the Gov't, either because they would be 'unsafe' in the 'hands' of the 'masses', or because they 'need' to be 'reserved' for the military. To me, agree or disagree, thats a perfectly valid position, or opinion, and he IS entitled to it. And others disagree, and they have expressed that, and they are 'entitled' to THEIR opinion, as well.
So, FINE! Now, lets MOVE on, and TALK about this technology, is it safe, how CAN it be done safely, what are related technologies, etc.

Anyway, I have enough other simple, promising technologies to explore. I WOULD be interested in trying to learn more about this one, but am tired of the (to me) silliness and distractions. Jim
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Old 04-21-2012, 11:35 PM
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and most ALL of us, at one time or another, ARE one. Certainly applies to me, I know. In fact, most often when I am REALLY ticked off about something, and 'sounding off', after I calm down and sleep on it, I realise "Oh, I was being a real *sshole!"

But then, definition of "Hind Sight"; The FIRST thing you SEE, when you jerk your head out of your *ss!

They have a new kind of Dr., a specialist thats a cross between a Chiropractor and a Proctologist. The idea is to jerk your head out of your *ss, and 'adjust' the spine so it doesn't go back in. But, like a 'regular' Chiropractor, its only a 'treatment', not a cure, and you have to keep going back for 'adjustments'; I go every couple of weeks, and gotta admit, I'm 'Overdue'!

There is a surgery they can do, for extreme cases; they surgically implant a plexiglas window in your belly, so at least you can see where the *ell your going! I AM considering it, actually,....

Guess I'm feeling like Rodney King; "Hey, can't we all just get along????"

How about 'ageeing to disagree', and 'moving on'? ANd, once again, how about focusing on the subject of alternate technologies, and not getting all caught up in whether there is or isn't a conspiracy to supress technologies, and whether this is or isn't a good thing?

The last 4 or 5 posts, including mine, haven't doone a THING towards moving anyone closer to developing Thorium as a battery, or source of energy, or ANYTHING. So, our 'Patriot' has made it clear. HE thinks there are technologies that SHOULD be suppressed by the Gov't, either because they would be 'unsafe' in the 'hands' of the 'masses', or because they 'need' to be 'reserved' for the military. To me, agree or disagree, thats a perfectly valid position, or opinion, and he IS entitled to it. And others disagree, and they have expressed that, and they are 'entitled' to THEIR opinion, as well.
So, FINE! Now, lets MOVE on, and TALK about this technology, is it safe, how CAN it be done safely, what are related technologies, etc.

Anyway, I have enough other simple, promising technologies to explore. I WOULD be interested in trying to learn more about this one, but am tired of the (to me) silliness and distractions. Jim
Very well said! Let's focus on the damn battery and stop responding to unrelated opinions about patriotism, public domain, etc. Patriot does have a right to profess his personal opinion, he did and so did Jim so let's push forward.

I think Dave's idea is worth exploring. Theoretically it would work. Dave what isotope are you suggesting and can you get more specific? I have access to a university science lab on weekends and I am willing to expend a few hours to give it a try. What part of the country are you in? Maybe we can meet up and work together on this?
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Old 04-22-2012, 01:08 AM
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Old 04-22-2012, 01:17 AM
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Im working at building a device similar to the one I posted, you can view it here The electric field of a magnet
I started this thread some months ago to keep from butting into other threads with my idea's.
The project Im working on could very well be enhanced with a radioactive isotope, but I will try it without it first.
I believe making the device to fit the natural flow of the fields is essential.
I just need to get my ass to building
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Keep going Dave!

I just went over your drawings and I think if you add the Thorium 232 isotope, you may very well have a much simpler battery than Aries DeGeus. It will be curious to see what amps and voltage you can pump out. According to witnesses, Petronov's battery was bigger than a shoebox but smaller than a briefcase and powered a 2 bedroom home full of appliances. But full-steam ahead, I am convinced you are the right track. Good luck!
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Even more funny at this whole "National Security" Crap. NOT.

Don't you think, All Government, no Matter if its Asia Russia Arabia do not know about Technologie, what is more efficient as the Trash what anyone get. They Do. The Battery above is the best Example, because its developed in Russia.

Anywhere in the World are such Devices, Turkey, Europe, elsewhere but they are kept in a Box, because of "National Security" Uh Oh. Yeah Sure.
So IF they would blow up an other Country the CAN!
Like a lot other Things what would Peoples help at Illness and psychical Problems, what you could heal a lot Peoples, but Lobbies dont want it.

But it even goes further, not only like this Example here, its the suppression about HHO droven Motors too, what are really NO Danger for the Public, only the biggest Danger for the Greed from certain Groups.

The Israel Lobby and US Foreign Policy - by John J. Mearsheimer and Stephen M. Walt
Keyword: USS Liberty
I too share your opinions and am probably the even more angry about the USS Liberty Cover-Up. My friend (retired from NASA - actually forced into early retirement for being too "outspoken" and "opinionated") just started a new blog to expose only the censorship that can be documented "beyond any reasonable doubt". I invite you to visit and tell the USS Liberty story in a way that will be credible.

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Btw, can you show some Examples from this Laws what makes it possible to cover up the 'unwanted' Inventions?
I think, its may an interesting Read and maybe useful for some further Discussions.
a young boy of 16 Patrick Flanagan invented a direct to brain connection device that bypassed any need for ears or thier aparatus. This means any deaf person could hear using the device. He is shown on the cover of Life or Look magazine showing 100 inventors of America around 1966 the Aug edition. I may have forgotten the correct year or month. His patent was siezed by the American Government for 20 + years by use of the National Security acts. He spent many years in court trying to get the right to build his patent. Phi Sciences*::*Neurophones
You may contact him about this at his site where he does not sell the device neurophone anymore just the replacement pads. Perhaps he can explain to you about conspiracies?[/QUOTE]

Here is one of three laws used by the U.S. Patent Office to seal patents:

35 U.S.C. 181 Secrecy of certain inventions and withholding of patent. - Patent Laws

The Department of State and Commerce also have similar laws under "ITAR" which prohibits the export of flagged technologies (actually a good thing in some cases)

ITAR Export Compliance - Export Rules

Lastly the Department of Energy has their own regulations and statutes that require "Special Review" of any new energy device which is more than 20% energy efficient and they have actually made any solar panel that is more than 20% efficient illegal in America. Go figure.

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My brother the lawyer (he claims to know everything of course) also tells me that the National Security Act and Patriot Act alos has provisions that allow both the Department of Homeland Security and Department of Defense the right to seal or remove high-tech or disruptive technology patents from public files if they "pose an imminent threat to public safety". I have not found these law yet but if and when I do, I will post them. Just for giggles I think I'll drop my local Congressman a letter to see even he even knows about this crap. Stay tuned.
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AGAIN, lets focus on the 'damn battery', and unfocus on the suppression aspect. Its (suppression) already been 'beat todeath', and further discussion just distracts from a technical discussion of HOW such a battery works, how one would go about building/using one, etc. Come on now, please.Jim
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AGAIN, lets focus on the 'damn battery', and unfocus on the suppression aspect. Its (suppression) already been 'beat todeath', and further discussion just distracts from a technical discussion of HOW such a battery works, how one would go about building/using one, etc. Come on now, please.Jim
Yes, back to the drawing board. Dave45 has a good handle on it I think. Look at his drawings on page two (post #50) at this link - Nuclear Thorium Plasma Battery Victim of Technology Suppression? The key I believe is to experiment with different isotopes for maximum yield and then add a converter/regulator to make the output useful. How are you coming along Dave?
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This is bullsh*t guys...

Nothing this BIG could be kept so secret for so long without hundreds of law suits from the inventors, their investors, and the millions of people who operate truck fleets, delivery vans, etc.

And the oil companies are not stupid. They have tons of cash and would buy the rights to these miracle batteries to monopolize the market and keep their strangle hold on us.

But if by some remote chance these batteries really do exist, I would have to agree with what Patriot said because we are definitely headed towards WWIII with all the civil wars in the Middle East and China's growing into a real super power and the return of Putin who is spending billions to restore Russia's military might. To add to the tension, India and Pakistan both just test-launched their own nuclear missiles to intimidate each other. America cannot afford to police the world any more so we will have to worry about protecting our own ass. Again, IF these batteries exist, they could make a big difference on the battlefield.

Also, if they used Thorium they would be radioactive and unsafe - another reason I don't think they are real or allowed to be used by the public.
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Nothing this BIG could be kept so secret for so long without hundreds of law suits from the inventors, their investors, and the millions of people who operate truck fleets, delivery vans, etc.

And the oil companies are not stupid. They have tons of cash and would buy the rights to these miracle batteries to monopolize the market and keep their strangle hold on us.

But if by some remote chance these batteries really do exist, I would have to agree with what Patriot said because we are definitely headed towards WWIII with all the civil wars in the Middle East and China's growing into a real super power and the return of Putin who is spending billions to restore Russia's military might. To add to the tension, India and Pakistan both just test-launched their own nuclear missiles to intimidate each other. America cannot afford to police the world any more so we will have to worry about protecting our own ass. Again, IF these batteries exist, they could make a big difference on the battlefield.

Also, if they used Thorium they would be radioactive and unsafe - another reason I don't think they are real or allowed to be used by the public.

Dude you have every thing wrong, do some real reading before you make a post like this before you come in to a post you know nothing about and call it bull ****. Your a freaking Shill and you have no business on this forum
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This is for the trolls who think were building dangerous nuclear devices, or some one who doesn't understand the principal: It is under the impression that they use some sort of nuclear reaction to generate the power, this is completely false. They generate power from a conversion from radiation to electrical power ( just like a solar cell ) that is why they are harmless, all the radiation is absorbed and used as useful power, a correctly functional unit will have absolutely no radiation output because it is all converted into electrical power. This is very possible with the use of "polarized plasma" of a sort, I know how to create this plasma and I even have some designs I will be testing. I just hope you all realize this is NOT a nuclear reaction this is an absorption of electromagnetic energy therefor has no radio active waste or emissions. But of course raw radio active materials can be hazardous and must be treated with caution. It does not mean that the end result will be a dangerous bomb or radiation hazard of some sort just because we are using these materials. Radio active substance are quite amazing and deserve more interest but unfortunately the common mind set is that they are extremely dangerous and if you treat it wrongly it will explode in a nuclear blast or some such. If you actual get into the physics and chemistry you will see how hard it is to create a nuclear blast or the deadly gamma radiation that we all fear. What I'm trying to say is that these substances have amazing uses other than killing, and all we have to do is realize that. Realize how we have twisted something that was naturally safe and quite amazing in of itself into a hazard. Is this all we are capable of? We have taken one of the rare sources of free energy and turned it into a weapon so that every one will fear it. And now everyone fears to use it for simple power generation.
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Dude you have every thing wrong, do some real reading before you make a post like this before you come in to a post you know nothing about and call it bull ****. Your a freaking Shill and you have no business on this forum
Chill dude. I read all 75 posts of this link before I commented. Am I not allowed to disagree? If not they why bother to have a forum? Instead of trashing me, why not just tell me WHY you think I am wrong. Tell me the following:

1) How come something this big was not at Wikileaks?

2) How could thousands of government employees keep a secret so long?

3) Why aren't the inventors and their investors suing the pants off the government?

4) Why are all the academic geeks and researches so silent about such a HUGE breakthrough?

5) Where is the inventor(s) of this technology now?

If you can't answer the above, lets just agree to disagree without getting so damn hostile okay?

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[QUOTE=Black Sheep Bill;190639]Chill dude. I read all 75 posts of this link before I commented. Am I not allowed to disagree? If not they why bother to have a forum? Instead of trashing me, why not just tell me WHY you think I am wrong. Tell me the following:

and back to the battery...
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Chill dude. I read all 75 posts of this link before I commented. Am I not allowed to disagree? If not they why bother to have a forum? Instead of trashing me, why not just tell me WHY you think I am wrong. Tell me the following:

1) How come something this big was not at Wikileaks?

2) How could thousands of government employees keep a secret so long?

3) Why aren't the inventors and their investors suing the pants off the government?

4) Why are all the academic geeks and researches so silent about such a HUGE breakthrough?

5) Where is the inventor(s) of this technology now?

If you can't answer the above, lets just agree to disagree without getting so damn hostile okay?

If you are still asking these questions you obviously haven't done real reading on the subject, this thread is about possible devices that will function as a nuclear battery if you have nothing to contribute then stop posting because you will be ignored
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If you are still asking these questions you obviously haven't done real reading on the subject, this thread is about possible devices that will function as a nuclear battery if you have nothing to contribute then stop posting because you will be ignored

No Leviathan, this thread is about one nuclear battery called a "Thorium Plasma Battery" as you will see in the OP. It is for this first post that I have five legitimate questions. Can you answer these five questions for me instead of launching insults? If you want to ignore me that is okay, but I hope someone else will deal with my 5 questions.
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The people who run web sites like these should not allow people to expose classified military secrets on-line. Scream all you want, but if these batteries were ever used in a way that cost American lives in a war, you would be guilty of aiding and abetting the enemy. Then how would feel when you watched more Americans being buried on TV and learn they were killed by some advanced weapon system that used technology you blabbed about to strangers on the internet? You think our enemies abroad don't look for technology "freebies" on the internet? The Chinese can duplicate anything. They have been doing it for over a century. This site is grossly irresponsible and I plan to ask my Congressman to do something about it.
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Cool story bro, btw its not revealing US military secretes to post your own designs that you invented
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The people who run web sites like these should not allow people to expose classified military secrets on-line. Scream all you want, but if these batteries were ever used in a way that cost American lives in a war, you would be guilty of aiding and abetting the enemy. Then how would feel when you watched more Americans being buried on TV and learn they were killed by some advanced weapon system that used technology you blabbed about to strangers on the internet? You think our enemies abroad don't look for technology "freebies" on the internet? The Chinese can duplicate anything. They have been doing it for over a century. This site is grossly irresponsible and I plan to ask my Congressman to do something about it.
Not all of us are Citizens of the United States of America anyway. And
secondly is is not even remotely possible to share a secret we have no
knowledge of.

Moot point.

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Breaking News - They found the missing Russian inventor

This is getting serious guys. I just got this in from my RSS feed. The Russian inventor of the plasma battery (Dimitri Petronov) who disappeared in 2010 was pulled form a river in Russia. Here's the link

[Global News] Plasma Energy Battery Inventor Dimitri Petronov Found in Moscow - Dead
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Something isn't right, in an interview of Petronov's wife she said that she received a box in the mail containing his watch, which was muddy and rusty but that was on 1/17/12. In the article stating that they found his body was on 1/29/12, so either they found his body long before 1/29 and sent the watch to MP before the 1/17 interview, and then 12 days later the email stating that they found his body was sent to the detectives. Or there are two different watches. Either could be a possibility, in the email it said that they body had its hands cut off, I would think this would only be done if the killer didn't want the body to be IDed with finger prints, and expected the body to be found before the fingers decomposed. Just some facts to think about, he may or may not be dead...

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Hello Folks: The topic you are discussing was sent to me via e-mail from a friend. Found it so interesting that i read every post and became a member only to share with you my experience. I have worked for most of the major aerospace organizations including NASA in various positions. When at Boeing Huntington Beach, CA, I found myself in the Battery Lab Vault, down in the basement one day, discussing these shelves of batteries with the person in charge. He showed me batteries that he said would never go dead, they would last for ever without a charge. In-fact, one of them was installed in the old Pioneer Satellites from the 60's i believe and at the time was still sending telemetry back. This was 1990, I asked why can't we get these batteries to the public? His response was that it would kill an industry because we could not sell the public a new battery every few years. This technology has been around a long time! Good luck, and i hope you are able to work this out without sacrificing your precious life's as others obviously have. Cheers!
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Hello Folks: The topic you are discussing was sent to me via e-mail from a friend. Found it so interesting that i read every post and became a member only to share with you my experience. I have worked for most of the major aerospace organizations including NASA in various positions. When at Boeing Huntington Beach, CA, I found myself in the Battery Lab Vault, down in the basement one day, discussing these shelves of batteries with the person in charge. He showed me batteries that he said would never go dead, they would last for ever without a charge. In-fact, one of them was installed in the old Pioneer Satellites from the 60's i believe and at the time was still sending telemetry back. This was 1990, I asked why can't we get these batteries to the public? His response was that it would kill an industry because we could not sell the public a new battery every few years. This technology has been around a long time! Good luck, and i hope you are able to work this out without sacrificing your precious life's as others obviously have. Cheers!
wow thats amazing, thankyou for posting, gives me hope for the future. Its exciting to hear from a first hand witness
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Something isn't right, in an interview of Petronov's wife she said that she received a box in the mail containing his watch, which was muddy and rusty but that was on 1/17/12. In the article stating that they found his body was on 1/29/12, so either they found his body long before 1/29 and sent the watch to MP before the 1/17 interview, and then 12 days later the email stating that they found his body was sent to the detectives. Or there are two different watches. Either could be a possibility, in the email it said that they body had its hands cut off, I would think this would only be done if the killer didn't want the body to be IDed with finger prints, and expected the body to be found before the fingers decomposed. Just some facts to think about, he may or may not be dead...

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Leslie did not say they found the body on the 29th of January. If you read carefully she said the email was sent on the 29th of January from her friend Sergei. Nobody mentions when Dimitri's body was actually found but according to Marina's interview it would have been at least 2 weeks before the 17th of January do the first week of January or lst week of December seems likely. But then again, in murder cases involving mobsters, government agents, or unidentified people the cops sometimes do not release their reports to the media or delay doing so while they try to find/trap the killer. I mean sometimes it better for them to keep quiet or t least delay stuff hitting the newspapers.

Or as you say, maybe he is still alive and they want everyone to think he is dead, but then I would ask... for what reason? Right now I think the most impotant thing is to find out the real true role of this Zachary character.

Side Note: Thanks KCJones for your note but what you are talking about are the first generation of nuclear batteries called "RTGs" which were first used in 1961 when NASA launched the voyager. This link has a photo of one Nuclear Generators Power NASA Deep Space Probes (Infographic) | Radioisotope Thermoelectric Generators (RTGs) | Plutonium-238 Power | Space.com But those batteries were highly radiactive and worked on a completely different principal. By all indications this new nuclear battery called the Thorium plasma battery or "TPB" do not use fission nor decay (like other voltaic batteries) and have the same radiation level as a cell phone.
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