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Old 03-26-2012, 01:10 PM
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Jes Ascanius Radiant collector

Good morning
In looking over the Jes Ascanius radiant collector as found at

http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter7.pdf

I have a question I thought someone here on the forum might be able to answer. In the link provided when it describes the aluminum plate it doesn't say that it should be insulated as Tesla mentioned. So my question is should the plate be insulated or not?
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Hi Bizzy,

if I remember correctly some Physics classes from a while ago, then "blank" aluminum does not exist in nature because an aluminum surface instantly oxidizes, when exposed to oxygen (in nature primarily from air or water).
This oxidized top layer is non-conductive and consequently aluminum plates are automatically insulated.
The controlled technical application of this process is called
Anodizing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

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Hi Bizzy,

if I remember correctly some Physics classes from a while ago, then "blank" aluminum does not exist in nature because an aluminum surface instantly oxidizes, when exposed to oxygen (in nature primarily from air or water).
This oxidized top layer is non-conductive and consequently aluminum plates are automatically insulated.
The controlled technical application of this process is called
Anodizing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
Hi Marxist
thanks for the help.
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Good morning
In looking over the Jes Ascanius radiant collector as found at

http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter7.pdf

I have a question I thought someone here on the forum might be able to answer. In the link provided when it describes the aluminum plate it doesn't say that it should be insulated as Tesla mentioned. So my question is should the plate be insulated or not?
Thanks
Bizzy
By the photograph of the aluminium plate, Patrick says that it is
suspended with nylon threads to keep it insulated.

I have had limited success with the basic Tesla idea before breakfast
but not much success later in the day. I might try this variant.
Thanks for mentioning it, Bizzy.
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By the photograph of the aluminium plate, Patrick says that it is
suspended with nylon threads to keep it insulated.

I have had limited success with the basic Tesla idea before breakfast
but not much success later in the day. I might try this variant.
Thanks for mentioning it, Bizzy.
Paul-R
Hi Paul
You are welcome...I am not giving up on my Bedini/Watson machine, but one of my early experiments after my windmill was Tesla's radiantr energy collector. Like you I had only limited success. Fortunatly I now have a better place for testing so I am going to resume these studies as well.
However in recreating the Jes Ascanius radiant collector I am having difficulty finding the 200nf 200volt capacitors...any help in locating them would be greatly appreciated.
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I have 2 plates at the moment sat on top of an arcade machine, they are doing some collection for radio projects. But, I intend to put them in the attic, too much lightning here to think of putting them out in the backyard !
Of galvanized steel and approx 2ftx3ft each, I was wondering the best ways of connection, so am happy to see your post Bizzy, which is more than the standard energy collector info we may see.
Though, relevance is to be had in Jake's great thread, about his crystal radio project.
Am thinking of coax...is that an idea with no 8 gauge laying about ?
Also, being short of baseball bat type pipes here for burying in the ground, I have an idea of using a steel plate from the bottom of a microwave oven, but have the thought that it's too small ? Otherwise, i've had good results from a 2ft steel 2" diameter pipe hammered into a spot near the house, where rain collects.

Oh, here's a circuit you may like, radio reception is great and, with the proper amount of turns and crystal radio tricks, could run from the initially collected energy, to ramp up output: CIRCUIT: 11/28/10 (bottom of page).
If linked to the Ascanius circuit, we may find some useable results.....I changed the above circuit to use a Sziklai pair (similar to Darlington) and can drive a 3" 3W speaker to listenable levels now. Transistors are S9014 NPN and A733 PNP, both found everywhere on especially telephony or radio related junk circuitboards.

Your 200nF's can be found on the power supply sections of CRT monitors
I first noted them when I thought they were relays.
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Old 03-27-2012, 09:13 PM
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I am having difficulty finding the 200nf 200volt capacitors...
You should get them from Cricklewoods:
Cricklewood Electronics - CCTV. CCTV Equipment. CCTV Systems. Digital CCTV Cameras

It may be that you would need to double up in parallel to get the
right value or use a cap with a higher voltage rating.

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Hi Guys,

If you don't mind let me add some free advice and you can take for whatever you think it is worth. For several years I had a TV repair shop and installed Tv antennas in a semi rural area. This meant the antennas were usually fairly large and as high as reasonable. I always installed them with lightning protection. Slider if you put the plates in the attic and then ground the system I can assure you the lightning will pay no attention to the roof being in the way. I had one customer that just insisted I had to put her antenna on a tripod mount on the roof. I wanted to put it on a pole in the back of the house. One month later she called me to come put up the pole because lightning had punched 3 large holes in her roof and blew out her AC unit and blew the phone junction box over 50 feet away. The lightning arrestor stopped the lightning from damaging the TV but there was no lead-in wire left from the antenna to the arrestor.

If you want to experiment with this radiant collector I would suggest you put it on a pole at least 10 to 20 feet from your house. Put in a good ground rod (like an 8 ft copper rod) and drive it almost all the way in. For a lightning arrestor you can use an old spark plug. Connect the body of the plug to a heavy ground wire going to the ground rod. Then you can connect your collector wire to the top of the spark plug. You will want to close the gap some on the plug so it will fire at a lower voltage but not too close as you don't want it to interfere with what you are trying to collect. Since I have not tried this radiant collector I don't know if the pole could be metal or not. I am thinking it would still work even if the pole is metal as long as the collection plates are insulated from the pole. But I don't know that for sure. If you used a metal pole that would give the lightning a better path to follow to ground instead of through your circuit. I have had my Ham Radio tower hit several times because it is well grounded. None of the hits has ever hurt any of my other equipment. If you use the metal pole be sure and tie it to the ground rod too with a heavy cable like #2 or better.

I hope this gives you some ideas for safety. I would hate to hear one of you had your house burn down because you collected a lot more energy than you wanted.

Carroll

PS: Bizzy, thanks for the words of support on that other thread.
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Old 03-27-2012, 09:54 PM
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Thanks Carroll
Yes, lightning wouldn't see a wooden roof, great point.
Also the spark plug method. Comical if the plug didn't work in a car and yet worked fine in this. Guess you'd only get one chance and so the plug would have to be known to 100% work !

I had a safer idea, just to try the module circuit. We have a satellite dish on one outside wall, left there by the previous owners. It still has a few meters of coax running into the house. Hmmm, place the circuit at halfway between the dish and ground and see if anything happens.

A question on radiant aerials. These two plates of mine are actually joined at the moment, the galv steel was a long rolled up piece of a few meters when I found it. So i've folded what's left in the middle.
I'm thinking a 90 degree arrangement of the two, like coils in some crystal receivers maybe, but for diversity of reception. Direction would appear to be a factor, up to the sun, down to earth, left or right for radio say.
Would 1 piece offer more collection (so not to cut it?).How are folks thinking of placement ? The Tesla patent shows a vertical directional plate.

Also, how about the 2 pieces face each other, separated by a small distance and with clingfilm wrap to insulate them. Would that be a capacitor ?

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Old 03-27-2012, 10:57 PM
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Hi Guys,

If you don't mind let me add some free advice and you can take for whatever you think it is worth. For several years I had a TV repair shop and installed Tv antennas in a semi rural area. This meant the antennas were usually fairly large and as high as reasonable. I always installed them with lightning protection. Slider if you put the plates in the attic and then ground the system I can assure you the lightning will pay no attention to the roof being in the way. I had one customer that just insisted I had to put her antenna on a tripod mount on the roof. I wanted to put it on a pole in the back of the house. One month later she called me to come put up the pole because lightning had punched 3 large holes in her roof and blew out her AC unit and blew the phone junction box over 50 feet away. The lightning arrestor stopped the lightning from damaging the TV but there was no lead-in wire left from the antenna to the arrestor.

If you want to experiment with this radiant collector I would suggest you put it on a pole at least 10 to 20 feet from your house. Put in a good ground rod (like an 8 ft copper rod) and drive it almost all the way in. For a lightning arrestor you can use an old spark plug. Connect the body of the plug to a heavy ground wire going to the ground rod. Then you can connect your collector wire to the top of the spark plug. You will want to close the gap some on the plug so it will fire at a lower voltage but not too close as you don't want it to interfere with what you are trying to collect. Since I have not tried this radiant collector I don't know if the pole could be metal or not. I am thinking it would still work even if the pole is metal as long as the collection plates are insulated from the pole. But I don't know that for sure. If you used a metal pole that would give the lightning a better path to follow to ground instead of through your circuit. I have had my Ham Radio tower hit several times because it is well grounded. None of the hits has ever hurt any of my other equipment. If you use the metal pole be sure and tie it to the ground rod too with a heavy cable like #2 or better.

I hope this gives you some ideas for safety. I would hate to hear one of you had your house burn down because you collected a lot more energy than you wanted.

Carroll

PS: Bizzy, thanks for the words of support on that other thread.
Hi Carroll
Yes I have worried alot about lightening strikes through the garage room as well. My wife would shoot me in it hit the garage and her Mustang

In your experiences opinion would a lightening rod positioned higher than the garage help the matter?
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P.S. you are most welcome and I meant every word
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Old 03-27-2012, 11:15 PM
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Lightning goes for the nearest and highest earthed point.

If you are in the countryside on a flat plain, there might
be a problem. Why not put a lightning conductor at the
top of a tree, securely earthed with a thick strap.

I cannot imagine that anyone in a town or village has
much ot worry about. There is bound to be a nearby
better route for the voltage to go for.
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lightning rod

Hi Bizzy,

Yes I definitely believe a lightning rod would be a benefit to protect your buildings. I wonder if it would have any effect on what you are trying to collect though. I don't have any experience in trying to collect radiant energy with collector plates or an antenna so I don't know if a lightning rod might detract from the energy you are trying to collect. I do know the lady I told you about earlier never called again about anymore problems after I put up the pole at the back of her house. I believe the pole acted as a lightning rod. The theory behind the lightning rods as I understand it is the lightning rod keeps bleeding off the charges of the air so they don't get high enough to allow a massive discharge like a bolt of lightning. That idea is the reason they have sharp points because this helps to bleed off the charges. I do know there is an old farm house on the very top of a hill across the field from my house about a tenth of a mile and I don't believe that house has ever been hit since they put the lightning rods on it many many years ago. If it has been hit the lightning rods must have protected it. It is easily the highest structure around so I do believe they really work.

I was a volunteer firefighter for 26 years and saw several houses that had been set on fire by lightning strikes so I know the risk is very real. By the way the old myth that a fire started by lightning can't be put out is just a myth because I have helped put out a lot of them.

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My first 'Module' is up and running
Scored 4x 0.196V drop germaniums and they were how I could make it. Sorting through junk, I found a 1970's tape player and, sure enough, they used germaniums in the pre-amp section.
Aerial is the plate on top of the arcade machine, so only about 6ft high. Connection is a ridiculously woeful 22 gauge strand of wire.
but, My outside Ground is better now. Have added a steel piece to the tube and then hammered it as far into the earth as possible. Only about 2ft total, but, with being tubular, means I can add to the top if more tube metal can be found.
The connection from that is much better, i've used coax.

Readings are only a start, but there are readings at least lol.
And a strange phenomena
I only get about 50mV and 10uA constant.
However, if I set the meter to read amperage on the mA scale, then leave the meter like that for approx 1 minute, I can switch back to voltage and see around 3V. The 3V then slowly depletes over about a minute.
So, does the thing need a slight draw to run ? to pull the energy through the system ?

Anyway, here's a pic of the Module and am now off to uprate the aerial and connections




*update*
Shorting the 22 gauge link to the galv steel increased voltage to 120mV
The satellite dish produced a constant 170mV
A 1 meter per side V shaped TV aerial, sat on my work table, produced 30mV
So, something changes, based on aerial type, elevation, wire link. Mere confirmation and good to see

*Update 2*
This is really interesting.
I changed to a hanging aerial setup temporarily. The steel base of a microwave was suspended in my gameroom, using an old power cord. All else the same.
The reading went up and down around 30mV and about 2uA.
But, the reading was going up and down, so obviously there's leakage back into the standard circuit.
A FWBR was made, consisting of 4x1N4148 diodes.
instantly, my readings of voltage went up to 1.640V !
However, get this, put any load at all on it and the voltage drops off again
So, I put one of Lidmotor's 'Penny' LED oscillator circuits on, which fires at almost exactly 0.400V and about 10uA.
The voltage rose and slowed as it neared 0.400V. At 0.397V or so, the voltage would go up, then back down and all around, never getting to 0.400V.
Putting a 0.650V drop diode on the positive to the 'Penny', saw the voltage go up steadily, til it slowed at around 0.645V and then it never quite got to 0.650V !

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My first 'Module' is up and running
Scored 4x 0.196V drop germaniums and they were how I could make it. Sorting through junk, I found a 1970's tape player and, sure enough, they used germaniums in the pre-amp section.
Aerial is the plate on top of the arcade machine, so only about 6ft high. Connection is a ridiculously woeful 22 gauge strand of wire.
but, My outside Ground is better now. Have added a steel piece to the tube and then hammered it as far into the earth as possible. Only about 2ft total, but, with being tubular, means I can add to the top if more tube metal can be found.
The connection from that is much better, i've used coax.

Readings are only a start, but there are readings at least lol.
And a strange phenomena
I only get about 50mV and 10uA constant.
However, if I set the meter to read amperage on the mA scale, then leave the meter like that for approx 1 minute, I can switch back to voltage and see around 3V. The 3V then slowly depletes over about a minute.
So, does the thing need a slight draw to run ? to pull the energy through the system ?

Anyway, here's a pic of the Module and am now off to uprate the aerial and connections




*update*
Shorting the 22 gauge link to the galv steel increased voltage to 120mV
The satellite dish produced a constant 170mV
A 1 meter per side V shaped TV aerial, sat on my work table, produced 30mV
So, something changes, based on aerial type, elevation, wire link. Mere confirmation and good to see

*Update 2*
This is really interesting.
I changed to a hanging aerial setup temporarily. The steel base of a microwave was suspended in my gameroom, using an old power cord. All else the same.
The reading went up and down around 30mV and about 2uA.
But, the reading was going up and down, so obviously there's leakage back into the standard circuit.
A FWBR was made, consisting of 4x1N4148 diodes.
instantly, my readings of voltage went up to 1.640V !
However, get this, put any load at all on it and the voltage drops off again
So, I put one of Lidmotor's 'Penny' LED oscillator circuits on, which fires at almost exactly 0.400V and about 10uA.
The voltage rose and slowed as it neared 0.400V. At 0.397V or so, the voltage would go up, then back down and all around, never getting to 0.400V.
Putting a 0.650V drop diode on the positive to the 'Penny', saw the voltage go up steadily, til it slowed at around 0.645V and then it never quite got to 0.650V !
Hi Slider
A VERY NICE SET UP

How many of the modules do you have?
in reading over Patrick's he has several modules put together in series...anymoany are you working with???
Because I am doing these radiant experiments at the house, the BOSS wants me to follow Carroll's advise(although I would anyway) and use a lightning rod. so that is on hold til my step son stops by to install it.
That being said I am going forward and building the modules once I get the parts. A few years back I worked with earth batteries and got similar results as with the radiant collectors I had at the time. So I am also wondering if I can use these modules with earth batteries as well

Bizzy
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Old 03-29-2012, 09:18 PM
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Got a couple more germaniums, but they are on radio circuits, otherwise, i'm out !
Was a great find on the tape player with 4 of them. Got the rest of the bits in junk components, So, will add to this one when finances change.
If there is even 0.1V and 10uA per Module, then the potential is seen, literally. The Module farm shown in a link above really appeals as something to make.

I've now amassed some more plates and they'll be put to work, trying the capacitor idea. A few side panels from old computer towers and the cover case from the tape player (lol). The idea, is to put them back to back and examine distances between....if there is a capacitive effect then it could be a winner for space saving too. I'm thinking along the lines of an air tuner on the old crystal sets.
The panels are painted at the moment and I wonder if that counts as insulation. Different metals may work best with different distance between. Clingfilm wrap is to be applied, to see if that makes a change.

I used the hanging aerial plate and the bettered earth ground on a crystal radio and got KRMG out of Tulsa yesterday lol, 30 miles distant and clear. It'll also bring in religious shows from Tennessee at night...so it's similar to the 100ft of 22 gauge wire I had strung outside between 2 trees. Safer too by being in the house.
First aim, is to bring in enough to power a 1Volt radio circuit, out to a normal speaker. Simple goal as a start. Having just 1 Module will allow the tuning of that to the best output and make future ones that I add more efficient by doing so
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The panels are painted at the moment and I wonder if that counts as insulation.
You could try cooking foil, the stuff that turkeys are wrapped in
for roasting. It is a bit fragile.

Also the "space blankets", large plastic sheets sprayed with aluminium
on one side, if a proper electrical connection can be made. (some may
be a sandwich - plastic, al, plastic)
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Old 03-29-2012, 11:52 PM
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Very cool, thanks

I've had another thought that's worth a go...simply use 1N4148's as the diodes. They're dripping off circuit boards of every type.
The circuit would have to have a large cap as storage, due to the decreased voltage throughput (0.4V'ish difference) but could be held in the cap til....selected.
The selection idea, relates to battery cycling in Bedini charging circuits that i'm working with too.
Make a dozen circuits and have the Grounds connected, but not the Positives. Use a CMOS 555 or any low voltage variable rate LED blocking oscillator (Lidmotor's 'Penny' or my '555 A-Like' say) as trigger pulse. Trigger a 74161 counter chip with that and it would sequentially step through the Modules. I'd use a 74161, as that's what I know I have and as used on an 8 count bar measure circuit for an electronic music sequencer once. Each Module would then have time to charge, before being selected and 'dumped' into the main storage cap for running projects.


'Inventor3' on YouTube made a series of videos of this sort of thing and i'm busily reviewing those at the moment.

*Edit* - in fact, if you look at this video: Free energy experiment part 3 - YouTube
It looks like a great method for solar induction too. Diode's, especially some LED's will become photovoltaic...I/R ones being strongest. If they sit within the circuit and you mount all the diodes on a wall outside, you not only collect the energies in the Tesla/Ascanius method, you collect photovoltaic energy too

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Here's a 10 minute thing that anyone can do.
Take a piece of metal (1ftx1ft), string it up to ceiling height but insulated from everything but the string.
Connect an AV plug of 2x 1N4148 diodes to the lead you have coming off the plate.
I was quite shocked.

370mV @ 4uA, with leaps up to 1.6V randomly, every few seconds!

Am now building a few sets of simple AV plugs, which will lead to a storage cap.
Then to link up the metal plates in a box like fashion, for the cap plate aerial idea.



...a few minutes later
Sure enough, the counter intuitive thinking is demonstrated.
With 2x AV plug to the same wire, we may expect to see exactly the same reading, but, nope.
0.435V, with spikes to 1.9V
Still not enough uA to drive even a good blocking oscillator, but kinda weird and very interesting.

Combining the AV plug duo, with the Ascanius Module, a constant 1.070V is being seen. Nothing for uA yet of use.

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Old 03-30-2012, 06:38 AM
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Sorry for the triple posting (slow thread eh)

But...
SUCCESS !!!!!


I've now got 3 plates strung up from the ceiling, all connected and leading down to the work table using a former mains lead, that was split down the length into 2 pieces of wire.
That connects to 2x1N4148 arranged as an AV plug.
They connect to a 1000uF 25V capacitor and the positive leg is isolated from the input by another 1N4148.
No ground is used.
It takes a woeful 20 minutes to fill that cap to 0.6V.
However, when it has done, I can connect an LED blocking oscillator and off it runs
The cap then depletes at approx 1mV per second, so more capacitance and AV plugs need to go on the system.

This is completely free power - forever - made from junk and only at ceiling height.

Leave the system alone overnight and already you can see that some usable energy will come through.
I'm quite sure that with a better and cleaner setup and using the Ascanius circuits properly, that much better results can be achieved.
But, the 1N4148's will work.

Here are my simple messy plates. If I can get results like this, from these, then surely it spurs you fellas on

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Old 04-12-2012, 11:25 AM
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Exclamation No one ever does as one tells.

Hi.
I am Jes Ascanius
And no one off you ladies does what i write, instead you try to get something else working that is not at all as i describe and then come here to ask each other in vain most of the time, because you ask a myth as what you ask is not what you have made!!!

Please do exactly as i do and it works, if you do something yourself that is not like the way i show it, that is why it properly does not work.

So funny to see some of you write that there nowhere stands that the suspended plate has to be isolated.

THAT STANDS IN CLEAR WRITING IN PJK BOOK!
As someone saw and wrote :-) good thing someone still can use their eyes!

Key notes:
POLISHED aluminium plate

Henged on NYLON Robes/strings

"8" gauge solid cooper leads, "4" gauge is a absolute minimum and you folks use leads that are so tiny it can never work!

Large ground connections

Please do see the pictures and videos of the system running from my live space!
https://profile.live.com/cid-5b0f8c4...94e9&sc=photos

Everytime i see someones replication, the suspended plate or wire is infantly small or low placed, eventhough i clearly state that either much larger or much higher up?

Also it depends on ionospheric pressure, meaning that low wet regions are just as awfull as high dry regions are wonderfull for such radient systems, so where one mand has a 60 x 60 aluminium plate on his artic to charge a phone, somewhere else that gets even more power and somewhere it is like it does not even work, so if it is to humid and you cant get it up real high without any aetheric connection to ground, then forget about it, it is not going to work.

Polish the aluminiumplate often or see the power collection fall, polishing it to high polish and keeping it polished, so use 2-3 mm aluminium plaets, the you can polish them all you want over decades.

It must be dry polishing, no wax - no nothing but what you polish with.
I use a centergrinder, one of those round thingies that you can buy cheap in every buildermarked that both vibrates and turns, finer and finer paper, when the finest paper is used i do nothing more but wash and rub them with clean cutton and isopropyl alkhohol, then polish it slightly again afterwards just witj clean cutton.

So how come someone write here in this lovely forum that there stands nothing about it in PJK Book???

The number one reson that many cannot find out how things work and cannot even replicate tyhings that are clearly stated?

I know from long experience the truth, here it is folks:

Retardment!
Retardment here talked about is remebering false memories, not being able to remember, not being able to calculate, not being able to visualise and other lovely faculty difficulties!

Please never listen to people that are the so called "lamers" they are in reallity far more involved in pumping their ego rather than trying to get something to work wich it seems like they are posting about, but it is not, they are there for getting reflection before it is earned truely, whicked people is another word, they grow more and more by time right now untill we all descide to change, so please recognice them, sort them out and go only where real truth is, where something real is made and documented, never listen to those youtubers, but listen to people whom have read books for many years or have REALLY been using houers every day for years to find out about something.

That has been the way i initially got this working, that is also how i get anything else working, by reading and doing A LOT for YEARS, sorting out, trying out, no manual, just the thinking ultra logically through Hermetic rules / Axioms and one can find out about just about anything i woukd guess, but you have to be senseer, really trying, because you only get as much back as you REALLY try and also you get just as little as you try.

Sorry for my bad english among other things ;-)
But Homo Sapiens, Maat, the civil abe listen more when you roughen them up, it must be a side effect for being driven mainly by fear to enlarge the sphere for at least 50.000 years.

Homo Sapiens, the first Atom bomb driven biological creature, just bombing its way through anyone/anything else untill it is purely alone and have erradicated the last spek of dust in the entire physical universe.

Allalus face on mars wheaps for the lacking actions of the son of Enlil/Enki, that he could not defeat Marduk, that they most flee to far far away land, and here we are left, with Marduk, god of war, lots of Atom boms.

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!
How we made it, how we are great, how we will surely prosper, how every day a new kind of tree or plant, animal or insect springs forth from creation........................OR NOT!!

Insanity, Confusius, the mind of madness, out!

P.S.
Something worth trying!
Limestone, incapsule metal plate behind limestone and use it as a collector, the radient inflow is very large indeed, but nothing sure to talk about just yet.

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Old 04-18-2012, 10:09 PM
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Hello Jes and Welcome to the forum!


This topic is very interesting to me and I respect you and thank you for sharing your work.
I had a look at your pictures and I would like to ask you some questions...

How much power could you get out of this system (see picture below) and how often would the SCR fire?

https://public.blu.livefilestore.com...533.JPG?psid=1


I'm also interested in your "heavy duty" system (see picture below). Do you have a scheme for this one? Did you complete the system? How wide apart have you set the spark gap - did the spark gap fire at all?

https://public.blu.livefilestore.com...585.JPG?psid=1

Thank you in advance for your answers!
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Old 04-19-2012, 01:34 AM
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you only get as much back as you REALLY try and also you get just as little as you try
Exactly Jes ! and the purpose for my very much simplified example of such a device, merely as motivation. Got to start somewhere and very few even do that
You can see by the way that the topic simply drifted off, that either people are busy actually building, or just haven't taken the time to do anything.
Your work prompted further reading and building...which now has seen a garden based horizontal radiant collector that's been running for many days. My thoughts were about our high lightning storm rate here in the Midwest of America. The collector is lightning nulled because of its height and powers an LED oscillator 24/7.
For reference: Radiant Energy Collector - Low Height - YouTube

Sanding and polishing of different plates is one area to do and then to put them in the attic, with spark gap protection and large gauge wiring. The simple AV plug and cap idea does work, but isn't very suited to multiple circuit integration. So, with a hoped for acquisition of germanium diodes, that situation can be *cough* rectified, for multiples of your circuit. As you say, only when actually replicated, will such a system work as described.
We need to do some roof repairs and that's when they'll be fitted.
I wish more people would simply have a go and see.


Regarding Mars anomalies, this one is a fave:

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Old 04-27-2012, 03:11 PM
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Parts for project

For those that are interested, the hard to locate 200nF(0.2uF) 200v caps
can be found at Mouser.com under the Mouser P/N 80-R46KN3220JBM1K.
These are exactly like the ones used in the project. The other components
can be found on e-bay.

Hope this is helpful.

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Replication

Hello All,

Glad to see a forum on this stuff.Thanks to Patrick Kelly, compiler of, IMHO,the Greatest Free Energy pdf ever assembled in the history of the planet.

Thanks too to Ascanius who did what others refuse to do, SHARE

I have replicated the device.I am now fine tuning it to get more voltage and to light an LED.Actually did it with some kids from my science club.Wanted the next generation to warm up to what their Physics texts refuses to inform them about.


Actually got 0.3 volts to start with but I need to get the polished stuff, another module and I already installed two grounds.


This weeks project is to light an LED.

Incidentally, what ascanius has created is a device called a Rectenna.It is also a sort of voltage multiplier.


He is moving from low voltage to high, but simmilar devices have been patented.That employs HV instead.Example the HEED device by Deyo that uses HV HF pulses to get it resonating at between 4 and 7Mhz for greater power.They have added a tank circuit.But that might be a totally different device...

Anyway.I am pleased with my success so far an will keep in touch as I experiment.

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Old 07-09-2012, 07:57 PM
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Radiant power come from RADIO Station :(

I Replicated this circuit and only two bank is enough for lit one LED. But that happen when my nearest 10KW MW Radio Station is on air mode. During night (after 11:59) time the AM Station is off==My LED OFF
I failed to tune Radiant Energy.....

RATUL KHAN.
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@Ratul - Perhaps the way to view your experience, is that the 2 banks are showing that your system is connected correctly. The overpowering radio station is throwing out enough RF to show the illumination - but - your system hasn't the amount of banks to continue after it shuts down at midnight.

A good experiment and continuation, would be to add several more banks and see what happens after midnight...the output would drop, but you should be able to build on the collected radiant (and indeed of other RF noise, like ionosphere bounced signals). Using a multi-meter ought to show what you have coming in after midnight
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Old 07-10-2012, 04:57 AM
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Question Some advice for a newbie please.

Hi guys. Im Chris from Argentina, and new to the radiant energy world and to the forum.
I got very excited since I casually landed in the NICOLATESLASECRET.COM webpage and discovered this "strange" and almost unknown source of free energy.

But I need some advice from you, the experienced people.
Happens that I am interested in buying the e-book the site offers, but there are a couple statements (within many others) on the salespage that seriously make me doubt about if they are a scam or not:

First, they say that anyone following the "step by step" instructions contained in the ebook can easily go "off the grid", with a few bucks, becoming totally independant from the electricity company. (mmm...), even without NO electrical knowledge at all.

And second, they say that the "device" is so small and portable, that you can take it with you for camping and feed a refrigerator or tv with it, even in the top of a remote mountain (mmmmm 2...)

These ideas obviously fascinated me, but based on what I am reading here and there, Im now becoming a bit exceptic.

Other page somehow similar to the one I told above is TESLASECRET.COM
Is one better than the other?

Some advice and oppinions?
Thanks buddies!!
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Old 07-10-2012, 12:22 PM
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This has been discussed several times on this forum. To my knowledge no one has ever gotten more than a tiny amount of power from this circuit. If you have a powerful TV or radio station nearby you might get enough power to light a LED. Use the search function on this forum and you will find a lot of threads where people have tried this.

And to the forum.

Carroll
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Old 07-10-2012, 07:08 PM
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Many thanks Carroll.

It is a pleasure to join you!

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This has been discussed several times on this forum. To my knowledge no one has ever gotten more than a tiny amount of power from this circuit. If you have a powerful TV or radio station nearby you might get enough power to light a LED. Use the search function on this forum and you will find a lot of threads where people have tried this.

And to the forum.

Carroll
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Old 07-10-2012, 08:23 PM
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Slider congratulations regarding your experiment. Can you please post the exact schematic you've done?
Thanks
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