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Old 03-24-2014, 04:25 PM
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It would be really nice to get schematics of the joule thief and Bedini oscillator circuit connections. That's something I haven't tried.

All here need to be aware that the 1N34 diode is a photodiode. That means it converts light to electricity. So as you add them, your output should go up as long as they are lighted. Putting the circuits in a closed project box that removes that light input should make the output go down.
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It would be really nice to get schematics of the joule thief and Bedini oscillator circuit connections. That's something I haven't tried.
Here's 2 I have tried, but couldn't get to work with AWG 28... I have some AWG 40 coming and will give them a try with that....



The one on the left, I found here on the energetic forum... the one on the right I copied from a 2011 video from a Bedini presentation video (click here) on his alum crystal battery. I would love to know the resistor values. I have a variety of resistors coming in next week too.
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Old 03-26-2014, 12:47 AM
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I was really more interested in how you were connecting them with the Ascanius circuit.

The LED resistor values will depend on the LED's used. They are current limiting resistors to keep from blowing out the LED's. Too much resistance and they won't light. Not enough resistance and they will burn out.

The resistor before the transistor Base will depend on the transistor used. It is also a current limiting resistor and if you use a BJT transistor as shown in the schematic the minimum current to turn it on and the maximum current allowed on the Base will be in the datasheet. It's an important parameter for a BJT transistor since they are current driven whereas FET transistors are voltage driven.

There are so many Bendini scematics around it seems you should be able to find resistor values but you have to be sure to match them the the LED's and transistor you actually use.

The formula for a current limiting resistor is I = V / R where I is the current out in Amperes, V is the voltage in, and R is the resistance in Ohms.

So 5 volts into a 100 Ohm resistor would give you 0.005 Amperes or 5 milliamps output.
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Old 03-26-2014, 02:35 AM
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I was really more interested in how you were connecting them with the Ascanius circuit.
Hi thx

It´s easy, connect the + of Ascanius output to + of joule thief and output - with - of JT.

It´s possible that don´t work if you don´t have enought volts in the Ascanius output, the transistor will don´t work till the volts increased enought in the output capacitors of Ascanius circuit, about 360/380 Mv with a 2n3055, and then the capacitors will discharge in less than second and you will have a hard flash, you will have to wait till the capacitors charges again, but if you put a lineal potentiometer, 10 o 20 K, between +output and the base of transistor you can regulate the volts of the transistor, so you can regulate the led flashing.

I have made it and works fine, if you connected leds of this kind (Tiras LED blanco dual | Info Led - Ledbox) you can turn on 10 or more, I have made a little video with 27 leds turned on and you can see some moments flashing slow (more intense) and others moments more quick (less intense). You can watch the video here captador energia mas joule thief2 - YouTube

Please, let me know if you any doubt.
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I would love to know the resistor values. I have a variety of resistors coming in next week too.
Hi Tgraca,

The circuit on the right is a Joule thief, you can put 100/1000 Ohm resistor in the base of transistor and for collector between 30/50 K resistor, depending of intensity, as says thx.
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The circuit on the right is a Joule thief, you can put 100/1000 Ohm resistor in the base of transistor and for collector between 30/50 K resistor, depending of intensity, as says thx.
Finally got a nice day last week to work on my grounds, but had to work... I have been going through the Bedini Earth Light thread over the last 3 weeks and am up to page 34 of 145+ pages... there's a lot to absorb...

I tried a number of JT and Bedini's SG circuits, but the best they could do for low energy was blink a light... I ended up with this circuit today, which worked for resistances from ZERO to 10K ohms... I got my inductors in yesterday, so after winding tons of bifilar inductors, I just plugged a few in until something worked well.



What's great about this circuit? It can take very low power and give fluid non-blinking power at all resistances. I think I have a winner here! First success in 4 months! I have a crystal cell with 0.75 V and 30 uA, which could not power an LED, but with this circuit, it gives a steady stream of light at all resistances tested (ZERO to 10K ohms).... and I think it can scale to something usable in the Jes Circuit!

I am not sure if this qualifies as a JTC.
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Finally got a nice day last week to work on my grounds, but had to work... I have been going through the Bedini Earth Light thread over the last 3 weeks and am up to page 34 of 145+ pages... there's a lot to absorb...

I tried a number of JT and Bedini's SG circuits, but the best they could do for low energy was blink a light... I ended up with this circuit today, which worked for resistances from ZERO to 10K ohms... I got my inductors in yesterday, so after winding tons of bifilar inductors, I just plugged a few in until something worked well.



What's great about this circuit? It can take very low power and give fluid non-blinking power at all resistances. I think I have a winner here! First success in 4 months! I have a crystal cell with 0.75 V and 30 uA, which could not power an LED, but with this circuit, it gives a steady stream of light at all resistances tested (ZERO to 10K ohms).... and I think it can scale to something usable in the Jes Circuit!

I am not sure if this qualifies as a JTC.
Hi Tgraca,

I attached an interesting doc
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Hi Tgraca,

I attached an interesting doc
I have seen this many times and will try it. There's a number of circuits out there that can be tried, and I have modified Jes's circuit in a number of ways, but want to give Jes's circuit a try as he shows. I can't imagine multiple Jes circuits will provide a lot of usable power, but Patrick Kelly seems convinced, so I will try my best to replicate it. We are supposed to have 3 great days starting tomorrow, and I have a lot of outside work planned.

I am speaking with an electrical engineer that has a working radiant energy system, is moving production to Asia and says he will have it in production by the end of the year... I hope to replicate his system by the end of the year. He said, straight up, that the depth of the ground isn't as important as the mass of metal buried. I told him about the old kid's swing set that I salvaged - steal - and that I wanted to bury it horizontally about 12" deep and use it for a ground... he said that would work better than a 10' deep copper ground with less metal mass, so I will give that a try too... I'll bury it under 4" of concrete and use it as one ground.

I fixed the schematic of my mini amp circuit.... I had it drawn wrong... connecting the second cap to the wrong inductor... the resistor and cap run in parallel off of ONE of the inductors to the base of the transistor like Bedini's SG circuit... I am building several of these today and will try to attach one of them to a few of Jes's circuits that I have here... when I get my grounds up to par I will test one and more of Jes's circuits by themselves and then work them with my new amp circuit to see what happens.

My current LCD only measures less than 200 uF in caps, and since I like to test my caps before I attach them to circuits, I am limiting my experiments to that specification. The only test I can run for more capacitance is to time power from a fully charged cap against a fully charged cap I can measure... to determine Farads....

The crystal batteries thread talks about using some of them as capacitors... I have tested this and they do work as capacitors and resistors, but mine are inconsistent at best, and unmeasurable at worst. I am working toward the car battery conversions to alum / lead for use in storing power from the Jes circuit... BTW - I up to 09-03-2011 on that thread as of today! It's got a ton of great information... some of which are useful toward this thread... -t
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New Circuit Design from Kelly's Chapter 7 Tested

After a nasty cold and wet winter here spending most of my spare time on crystal batteries, I finally connected my second ground last week and when I got in last night from my travels, I noticed a modification to the Jes circuit in Patrick Kelly's Chapter 7 doc and gave it a try this morning - less components makes it easier to build....



I noticed the circuit is basically 2 circuits in parallel, so I tried just one and had some good success (see above pic). I can't match the configuration exactly with what I currently have and 6 or 8 AWG is really expensive, but with my lesser config, I am getting some success, which to me is a proof of concept. This is my first real success with this idea since Dec. 2013. Thank Jes and Patrick!

Note that the aluminum wire "Alexkor" Aerial System is probably irrelevant, but is currently hooked into the configuration. I will bypass it and compare the results in my final tests.

Antenna - 80 feet of stranded/insulated copper speaker wire (14 AWG) wound as bifilar (40' pair wound and connected as effectively 40' clockwise and 40' counter clockwise - not sure if this matters, but wanted to specify the config...) connected to a pair of coax cables, about 50' each with one end not connected.* The coax is an old Dish TV cable and the center looks like it's copper. Do you think this coax may be considered an additional 100' of antenna. (not sure)

About 20' of single 14 AWG stranded copper speaker wire connected to "Alexkor" Inspired Aerial (212' of aluminum 17 AWG) and about 20 feet of 12 AWG solid copper wire connected to the 3' copper pipe (1/2") ground. The main house ground is probably 30' to the ground from the lab and goes through an old cable TV coax.

The lab is about 10' high - second level of my home... not quite the halfway point as recommended, but close. Also, the antenna, grounds and lab are all offset horizontally - nothing directly above the other... not sure if that matters here, but I think it was recommended... I think the specification is is to have the antenna directly above the ground, or at least one of the grounds....

*I have the bifilar antenna set up this way to try to replicate the Raymond Phillips idea of running the circuit up and through the antenna so there are effectively 2 connections between the antenna and the circuit... I like this idea..... but the second antenna connection is not currently connected in these tests...

Current Config: 1N34A's for the diodes, 50 V 100 uF polarized capacitor, four 50 V 0.1 uF rated ceramic caps paired on top and bottom... the paired caps tested at around 0.165 uF with LCR meter - still not to specs... I can't find the ceramic caps at 200 nF and 200 Volts, but I did find some film caps with this rating at $1.00 each... too much for me... I do have some ceramic caps coming rated at 220 nF and 50 V, so I won't have to pair the caps when I get them in... - not sure how critical 200 volts is, but gotta go with what I have and can get for now - I am open to ideas on this... Also, since I am using 50 Volt caps, I am wondering how many circuits it will take to pop them. They are pretty cheap and I wouldn't mind getting that on video! lol

Results: 4.8 volts if left standing with the volt meter off for about 20-30 minutes... settles at around 1.5 standing volts when connected to the volt meter. When shorted, this set up shows 1.8 uA and 1.8 mV. I like the new configuration for the circuit and may try it with transistors instead of 2 diodes -- they are much less expensive than the 1N34A's (about $1.68 for 4), but I do have enough 1N34A's to build a 9 of these circuits.

In the above picture, I included an idea for using transistors (NPN's to PNP's) instead of the 1N34A's. The 1N34A's cost so much more versus the transistors. ($0.065 USD per pair - NPN 2N3904 and PNP 2N3906 - both by Fairchild) - I have these but will probably go with 1N4148's as my next test. Soldering these tiny transistors looks tough...

I have 500 1N4148's coming - cost was $0.02216 USD per 4. eBay has some good deals if you don't mind waiting a bit for your order to come in.

I just tested the circuit with my amp circuit (previously posted) and one of these circuits pulses a very low powered LED about once every 50 seconds.
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2-7 Circuits - Test Results

Built 7 circuits, but actually lost power per circuit added. With 7, it couldn't charge the caps past 100 mV in parallel or in series. Same issue to a lesser extent with 4 or 2 circuits, respectively. I got up to 8.6 volts with one and 1.5 volts standing with volt meter, but it could barely pulse my low powered LED every 50 seconds with my amp circuit... My next step for the Tesla / Jes Arc. idea would be $231.00 for 500 feet of 6 AWG wire... probably won't go that direction right now...



I got WAYYYY more power out of a $0.03 crystal battery.



That's it for now.... - t
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Old 04-18-2014, 11:28 PM
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tgraca: a few notes for you.

The 1N34 diodes are also what is known as a photodiode which means they convert light to electricity. As long as they are in the clear case so the light can reach the material inside they will produce more electricity than when they are covered. You can test it by moving then in and out of the light or wrapping them with black plastic tape. So I would expect the 1N4148's not to perform as well, if at all.

Note Jes' comments about insulating everything. That's because some amount of the charge is on the outside of the wire and it will neutralize with charges in the air. So shorter wire leads are better and insulating them with paint or shrink wrap is also better. If you use a printed circuit board, all of the traces will be insulated and only the solder points will be exposed.
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Research with Jes Ascanius System

Yes received some great success with the Jes Ascanius system....

See my link Free Energy System, Jes Ascanius system, Aerial Electricity


Got fully charged caps, 32Volts

Nothing much on current....so more of the circuit modules must be added and worked out....but its a start....

As Jes explains the earth and aerial must be good....

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Hey guys,

I was able to generate 10v in 30mins using the following circuit based on the original Tesla Radiant Energy patent:



However, I am very interested in building the Jes Ascanius circuit, because it promises to provide much more energy.

The 200v 200nF capacitor is hard to find, because it does not exist. In fact, if you look closely at the pictures in the PJK book on page 9, chapter 7, you see that the capacitors used are actually 250v - 275v. Also, keep in mind that 200nF is the same as 0.2uF! So, a capacitor you could use is this one.

I ordered all the parts and am going to build the system tomorrow, but I have some questions about the Jes Ascanius circuit. For example, I get that this setup diverts + energy waves into one half of the capacitors, while the - energy is stored in the other half of the capacitors. My question is: why not use a Full Wave Bridge Rectifier setup so you only need a single capacitor? This image shows what I mean:



As you can see, I omitted the big 250v 0.2uF capacitors, because I don't really get why they are positioned before the diodes. Would be great if someone could explain that!

Hope someone can answer my questions!

Also, someone on an other forum mentioned that the 1N34a germanium diodes might be replaced by the much cheaper 1N5819 SCHOTTKY diodes ($0.34 vs $0.04!). I also purchased those, so I'll see how they perform.

As far as I can learn so far, the cap connected to the aerial first collects the charges in AC mode...resonating with the earth, then the diodes push the AC charges unto a electrolytic capacitor before going to the load

Free Energy System, Jes Ascanius system, Aerial Electricity my success is limited so far...

Need to learn how to build and strengthen the current side of the charge....

CHeers
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"Radiation Induced Electrical Current and Voltage in Dielectric Structures" attached.
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Hi guys! Any news?
I find interesting scheme of connection diodes and try to build a set of diodes like this scheme, but it is dont working. One module is working greate and give about 4.5v, but two or more - NO! Why? Diodes is D9G, russian analog of 1N34.

This is scheme. Sorry dont find how decrease size before posting.

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Hi guys! Any news?
I find interesting scheme of connection diodes and try to build a set of diodes like this scheme, but it is dont working. One module is working greate and give about 4.5v, but two or more - NO! Why? Diodes is D9G, russian analog of 1N34.

This is scheme. Sorry dont find how decrease size before posting.

http://svapka.ru/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/dodmost.GIF
I hear this every time. Don't know why. Somebody say hook the wires up in the middle of the ladder.

Must be high and insulated.

No bare wires.

Leakage from bare wires? Don't know anymore.

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Hi Mikey, thanks for your reply!
I try second times, third times and it starts working! Two modules in parallel. But one moment. With single module it give me about 4.5v, but two modules now give 1.9v.
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Today voltage on two modules is 3.2v. Bad antenna and ground.
If weather let me do it - next weekend experiment will be with ~80-100 meters long antenna (coated copper wire 0.5 mm diameter) on about 2 meters high. And with big diameter copper coil of 1 mm insulated wire inside of my roof-level. Altitude of roof-level about 10 meters. Ground contact is steel 1.5 cm diameter and 1.5 meters long armature hammered vertical to the ground in open air garden. Ground must have enough moist for good contact. Also I have elements for 20 modules, if first time experiments will be fine =)
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Today voltage on two modules is 3.2v. Bad antenna and ground.
If weather let me do it - next weekend experiment will be with ~80-100 meters long antenna (coated copper wire 0.5 mm diameter) on about 2 meters high. And with big diameter copper coil of 1 mm insulated wire inside of my roof-level. Altitude of roof-level about 10 meters. Ground contact is steel 1.5 cm diameter and 1.5 meters long armature hammered vertical to the ground in open air garden. Ground must have enough moist for good contact. Also I have elements for 20 modules, if first time experiments will be fine =)
If you have a brisk windy day, does this design lend itself to an aerial fastened to a kite?
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I don't think so. Helium mini zeppelin maybe, until first thunder and lightning))
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Can i use the above described modules on tree voltage ? with alum nail in tree trunk(-) and copper rod in ground (+) im getting just under 1V, which is double what i get from Tesla tinroof...
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Hi guys! Any news?
I find interesting scheme of connection diodes and try to build a set of diodes like this scheme, but it is dont working. One module is working greate and give about 4.5v, but two or more - NO! Why? Diodes is D9G, russian analog of 1N34.

This is scheme. Sorry dont find how decrease size before posting.

http://svapka.ru/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/dodmost.GIF
I don't see any capacitors in your diagram. From the patent:
“My present application is based upon a discovery which I have made that when rays or radiations of the above kind are permitted to fall upon an insulated conducting-body connected to one of the terminals of a condenser while the other terminal of the same is made by independent means to receive or to carry away electricity a current flows into the condenser so long as the insulated body is exposed to the rays, and under the conditions hereinafter specified an indefinite accumulation of electrical energy in the condenser takes place. This energy after a suitable time interval, during which the rays are allowed to act, may manifest itself in a powerful discharge…”

“It is very important, particularly in view of the fact that electrical energy is generally supplied at a very slow rate to the condenser, to construct the same with the greatest care.”

“The insulated plate or conducting-body should present as large a surface as practicable to the rays or streams of matter, I having ascertained that the amount of energy conveyed to it per unit of time is under otherwise identical conditions proportionate to the area exposed, or nearly so.”

Tesla Patent 685,957 - Apparatus for the Utilization of Radiant Energy - Patent
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Can i use the above described modules on tree voltage ? with alum nail in tree trunk(-) and copper rod in ground (+) im getting just under 1V, which is double what i get from Tesla tinroof...
I was researching some Tesla info yesterday and found an article titled "Trees Make Good Batteries" at the following link that reminded me of your post here. It's on page 397 in the document, PDF page 44. It's from the August 1920 Science and Invention magazine which was earlier named Electrical Experimenter.
http://www.americanradiohistory.com/...SI-1920-08.pdf

The index for the archives it at ELECTRICAL EXPERIMENTER - Early electrical and electronic publication

Connecting to a tin roof is a bad idea. It's probably not insulated and Tesla specifies an insulated, elevated plate because if you do manage to get a charge in the roof, any points, i.e. sharp corners or burrs, will ionize the air around that point which makes it more conductive than the surrounding air and will provide lightning an easier path to ground so that point actually attracts lightning if there is any. That's how a Franklin lightning rod works.

You also don't want to stand under a tree in a lightning storm. So apply that to your "tree battery" concept.
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My version of the Jes Ascanius/Tesla circuit

I tried to make the Jes Ascanius circuit but didn't get all that much voltage, I played around with it for many hours and found to my surprise that just two 1n34 diodes linked to a good earth connection gives instant voltage and with a capacitor I was able to dimly light a single led. A note of caution though and to take into consideration be sure your antenna is not near or close to any other wire or power source, I found just the slightest interference of AC from wall sockets or power leads would give a false reading and you would see a strong constant voltage, even by just touching the antenna you will see a considerable boost in voltage. I also found that I could add many of these mini circuits to the same earth source and antenna and each would perform the same. Reducing the 0.22uf Capacitor to 0.22pf and linking these circuits in series should give higher voltage if desired although I have yet to try that.

Anyhow I thought someone might find it interesting or useful.


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Coating the plates/aerial

Hello All,
I have found that I am collecting much more voltage with my plates if they are coated with 400 mesh graphite powder. I use scotch brite pads to clean the aluminum plates well. Then, after this, buff them to a fine sheen. I took it seriously when tesla stated this is of massive importance to do.

I coated the plates with a thorough coating of an acrylic clear coat. While tacky, I powdered it up well with 400 Mesh graphite powder and allowed it to dry. I dumped a decent sized pile of graphite powder onto the plate and buffed it in until I have a "smoked mirror" look to the plate. This is supposed to act as Graphene and it does very easily draw the full aerial voltage that is in the atmosphere, which I get between 3-4 volts per meter. I have a 50 ft utility pole with a 20 foot fiberglass stanchion mounted to the pole, using a high voltage insulator, I have installed a high voltage cable (15kV URD shielded cable with cable termination on the end up a riser pipe all the way up to the plate, professionally terminated to the plate. I covered the plate once I buffed the graphite in with several coats of acrylic clear and I have an astounding amount of voltage from the device.

I get a constant 77 volts rms and approximately 12 watts of output. I have enough to drive my Pelex device, so, I am very happy I will or should be ab;le to acquire 2500 watts if it works as a normal ac input would. I have to pulse the system so i could drive a transformer and give it double the output, but, when I do this, I will be cutting the amperage in half, however, the Pelex device needs 60 hz and 120 v to operate. It makes 7 watts amplify to several thousand if it is tuned correctly.

I'll keep you all updated with my design.

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...a few minutes later
Sure enough, the counter intuitive thinking is demonstrated.
With 2x AV plug to the same wire, we may expect to see exactly the same reading, but, nope.
0.435V, with spikes to 1.9V
Still not enough uA to drive even a good blocking oscillator, but kinda weird and very interesting.

Combining the AV plug duo, with the Ascanius Module, a constant 1.070V is being seen. Nothing for uA yet of use.[/QUOTE]




[QUOTE=Slider2732;186424]Here's a 10 minute thing that anyone can do.
Take a piece of metal (1ftx1ft), string it up to ceiling height but insulated from everything but the string.
Connect an AV plug of 2x 1N4148 diodes to the lead you have coming off the plate.
I was quite shocked.

370mV @ 4uA, with leaps up to 1.6V randomly, every few seconds!

Am now building a few sets of simple AV plugs, which will lead to a storage cap.
Then to link up the metal plates in a box like fashion, for the cap plate aerial idea.
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Nice work on getting 77volts. 400 mess graphite power polished aluminum plate like smoked mirror. It is things like this that get us going forward.

12 watts from a polished plate is good.
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Keep good records over the next few days

We just had a good solar storm with both high density and high speed of the solar wind. Usually the speed and density are in an inverse relationship, i.e. higher speed = lower density and lower speed = higher density.

Look up! Another solar storm may supercharge auroras Wednesday
If you've been keeping good records you should have seen a peek at 2015-06-22 19:00 GMT.

There should be another, but weaker peek, 2015-06-25 01:00 to 09:00 GMT.

And possibly another, even weaker, at 2015-06-28 ~02:00 GMT.

WSA-ENLIL Solar Wind Prediction | NOAA / NWS Space Weather Prediction Center

This should work with insulated elevated plates. I'm not sure about those using wires.
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I've been experimenting with radiant energy recovery from the earth in 2.5mm twin and earth house wiring cable. Currently I can get about 9.5vdc under load of a 12v LED car interior light bulb using the mirrored circuit on the free energy info chapter 7 page or just a full wave rectifier using 4 BYV27 diodes. This is using the mains UK voltage of 240v.

Can anyone please explain why I can't replicate this powering the cable with my 1500w 230v full sine wave inverter?
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I have followed this tread from time to time, and just realized that, except for the last "What a I missing" post, there hasn't been any activity for nearly a year. Also, the Ascanius video and documentary material links posted early on don't seem to function. Did everyone give up on further experimentation, or did a different thread become the focus of further discussion on this subject?

I saw a video some time ago that appears to use this method, and am wondering if it is the same as what was seen in the Ascanius video, which I can't seem to locate in Internet searches. In the video that I saw, the setup was applied in what appeared to be someone's cellar. A sheet metal aerial of about 3 ft by 4 ft dimension was spray painted with a dark coating to insulate it, and it was suspended from the cellar ceiling. Thus, it couldn't have been more than maybe a foot above actual ground level, and probably no more than 5 ft above the cellar floor. The ground rod was steel, and placed 1 ft deep in the cellar floor. These were attached to a 50 gang circuit board of the type said in PK's write-up to have been used by Dragan Kljajic in obtaining an output of about 96 watts continuous. The circuit board was connected to a transformer to feed four 100 watt light bulbs, and lit them up what appeared to be quite brightly in the video, but this effect may well be caused by the dark cellar environment the video was made in. Even a 4 watt night light bulb can look very bright, of course, when viewed in darkness. Thus, since I could clearly see the "100watt" marking on the bulbs when viewing a still image close-up, I would guess that the actual output was well under 400 watts, or it would have been blindingly bright in the darkness and the markings on the bulbs would not have shown. Still, even if somewhere between 50 and 100 watts, as Kljajic is said to have achieved, this would show that the method does have potential, especially if it can be further enhanced without being cost prohibitive. As an earlier posting suggested, a ready made solar panel, purchased for less than the cost in parts and labor to prepare an Ascanius setup, may well achieve the same or better results. The difference, of course, is that the Ascanius setup could produce power 24/7.

Here's a link to the two still images I captured from the video: Electronics

One image shows both the circuit board and the 4 bulbs being lit up, while the other is a close-up of the bulbs showing the "100watt' markings. If anyone was able to view the Ascanius video, did that appear to be the same as what is depicted in these images?

I wasn't about to accept this demo as being factual unless someone in this thread was able to achieve similar results that verified it as something other than a hoax, so didn't rush out to obtain the required parts, and would advise others contemplating a 50 gang or larger experiment to hold off until there is more validation. Still, the work done by participants in this thread is applauded as lending credibility to the concept and discovering that certain enhancements can greatly improve results.

So, once again, I'm wondering why experimentation in this thread suddenly appears to have ceased nearly a year ago, and would like to know why, if someone knows the answer to that question.

Best 2 all,

Rick
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I built the device. It worked until..... I turned the mains off.
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