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Old 11-29-2018, 04:24 PM
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Unfortunately, your analysis is incorrect. You have already stated that both current and voltage go from the motor to battery 3. Because this is a PULSE motor with a mechanically built in off and on time, the 3rd battery receives a PULSE of current and voltage from the motor. Since the boost module sets the voltage, what is hitting battery 3 is two volts higher than the battery standing voltage at whatever current cones out of the motor. THAT is the “magic pulse” the third battery gets, just like it would from a store bought battery charger.


The boost module does NOT eliminate this effect as you claim. If you don’t even understand how this system works, how can you “claim” that it doesn’t do what we say it does? Because SOME of the energy sent into the motor isNOT consumed by the motor, but passed right THRIUGH it to the 4rd battery, charging it, you can get extended run times from this setup by rotating the batteries. PERIOD
This is the pulse which Matt claims is responsible for increased energy.



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Old 11-29-2018, 04:47 PM
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Not really what I said

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As for your statement that this is insignificant because you can’t run your house on this system. ...
What I said was
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Back to the balance question, or answer, it looks like sizing the 3bgs system for the load is the only way. That doesn't seem practical for a home power system where the load is constantly changing.
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Not really what you claim was my statement, unless you're referring to some other post.
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You have repeatedly said what we are showing is either a mistake on our part or insignificant. You also stated that it doesn’t seem practical for a home power system. I just lumped that all together. Just to show how mistaken you are.

As to the screen shot and the video... is that Matt in the video the screen shot is from? Nah. It’s Luc. Where does Matt make the claim that the output of the boost module is charging the primary? OR the output directly from the motor? He doesn’t. Do we believe the primary gets a charge up the negative line? Yes we do, but NOT directly from the boost module OR the motor. It comes down the negative from battery 3.

The question WAS, does Matt’s motor provide a charging pulse to battery 3. The answer is, yes it does. MInSDIRECTION on YOUR part doesn’t change the FACTS. Is this a high voltage pulse? Yes, because the coils in the motor collapse and that charging spike hits battery 3. Is this a HIGHER voltage than what was put into the motor as I have tried to explain before. Yes it IS. Is it CONSTANT high voltage? Of course not. It is a high voltage spike. We were talking about whether or not Matt’s motor sends a charging pulse to battery 3, and your “analysis” was wrong. Since you can never admit you are WRING you are attempting to divert the discussion to something else, as you always do b
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Old 11-29-2018, 06:16 PM
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... Where does Matt make the claim that the output of the boost module is charging the primary? OR the output directly from the motor? ...
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That returned current is because of the HUGE spike of voltage returned to the battery. This huge spike slows the ions in the battery and allows the battery to take a charge. This has been proven over and over for at least the last decade looking a John Bedini's stuff.
You cannot return energy to a battery that is discharging in a format that is similar to what is discharging. It has to be high voltage. It has to be another flavor.
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Here he is saying that the pulse from the modded motor goes into the source (discharging) battery. It was the whole purpose of the deal about rotation of the brush plate to get this pulse and the subject of the gotoluc vids even doing it over using a battery instead of the power supply. Matt says nothing of which I am aware about the modded motor benefitting the charge battery. But I haven't read everything he's written.

I don't suppose you have any evidence or test data showing improved performance of charging with the waveform from the Matt modded motor vs standard DC charging?

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The question WAS, does Matt’s motor provide a charging pulse to battery 3. ...
No, this was the question.

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Hi citfta,
...BTW, do you find it odd that Turion insists on the Matt modded motor and a boost converter when the converter contains a diode which blocks any "charge" pulse going to the battery from the motor? ...
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I think it was clear from the start I was talking about the source battery, the only battery in the system which I built and A & B in the 3bgs diagram.

No misdirection from me.

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Again, the boost module is NOT between the output of the motor and battery 3 in the 3 battery system or the single battery in the one battery circuit you built. The higher voltage from the boost module as well as current go to the positive of the motor, THROUGH the motor, and hit the battery on the other side just like a battery charger, which is what we have ALWAYS claimed. Do you dispute this or are you AGAIN going to try to divert the discussion. The boost moduke does NOT block THIS charge pulse as YOU claim, which is why it is so important. You still don’t get it. You continue to IGNORE what comes out of the motor, which is the whole point of this circuit AND the important contribution of Matt’s motor. Either you are really dense or are purposely trying to confuse people.
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I am tired of reading the same things again and again. It does not matter whether Mat said this or that. Or if you said this or that. Please do the tests as instructed or go away. Many of us had positive results. That's why we keep on following this thread. The rest can leave us alone. Even if it is a dream let us dream please.
We like that. Ok? You are trying so much to prove something. Who asked you to. Your consciousness I expect. Ok we got your point. Let's move on now.
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Old 11-29-2018, 11:26 PM
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Again, the boost module is NOT between the output of the motor and battery 3 in the 3 battery system or the single battery in the one battery circuit you built. The higher voltage from the boost module as well as current go to the positive of the motor, THROUGH the motor, and hit the battery on the other side just like a battery charger, which is what we have ALWAYS claimed. Do you dispute this or are you AGAIN going to try to divert the discussion. The boost moduke does NOT block THIS charge pulse as YOU claim, which is why it is so important. You still don’t get it. You continue to IGNORE what comes out of the motor, which is the whole point of this circuit AND the important contribution of Matt’s motor. Either you are really dense or are purposely trying to confuse people.
This is exactly what I said in post #4359. Guess I need to draw a picture. And this is how Matt has described the charge pulse from his modded motor. The blue arrows represent the intended path of the charge pulse current from the Matt modded motor back to the source battery. However there is a diode inside the boost converter which blocks current in this direction.







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bistander, please
I am tired of reading the same things again and again. It does not matter whether Mat said this or that. Or if you said this or that. Please do the tests as instructed or go away. Many of us had positive results. That's why we keep on following this thread. The rest can leave us alone. Even if it is a dream let us dream please.
We like that. Ok? You are trying so much to prove something. Who asked you to. Your consciousness I expect. Ok we got your point. Let's move on now.
I did the tests and posted my results. Please post your results. Thanks.

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You refuse to listen and I am done arguing with you. Think what you want.
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I am going to one last time try to get you to see where you are wrong. Dave has said at least twice today that the pulses from the NEGATIVE side of the motor are the ones that help charge the battery that is on the charge side. Your drawings with the blue marks are NOT correct. As the motor rotates so that the brushes make contact with the armature windings the cap in the boost module will discharge THROUGH the motor to the charging battery and then back to the ground connection. I believe Dave has the negative of the boost module in the wrong place on the 3BGS drawing you posted. It should go to ground.

On the 1GBS the almost same thing happens except the NEGATIVE side of the motor goes back to the same battery that is supplying power for the boost module. Since those pulses are going to the POSITIVE of that battery it helps to keep that battery charged. So your blue arrows are AGAIN on the wrong side of the motor.

If you still refuse to accept this explanation then I am sorry. But I don't have any more time to waste explaining the same thing over and over again.

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Old 11-30-2018, 01:25 AM
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... The higher voltage from the boost module as well as current go to the positive of the motor, THROUGH the motor, and hit the battery on the other side just like a battery charger, which is what we have ALWAYS claimed. Do you dispute this or are you AGAIN going to try to divert the discussion. ...
I said the exact same thing at the beginning of this go-around. In bold.

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So the current flows out of the converter output + into the motor +. Then it flows out of motor - into battery C +. Current will flow from battery C - into battery B -. Because current flows from + to - inside battery C, it charges battery C. ...
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I believe Dave has the negative of the boost module in the wrong place on the 3BGS drawing you posted. It should go to ground.
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Carrol,
The drawing is correct. The negative of the boost module goes to battery C positive, not to ground. The Boost module and motor are running between the positives of the 3BGS.

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I am going to one last time try to get you to see where you are wrong. Dave has said at least twice today that the pulses from the NEGATIVE side of the motor are the ones that help charge the battery that is on the charge side. Your drawings with the blue marks are NOT correct. As the motor rotates so that the brushes make contact with the armature windings the cap in the boost module will discharge THROUGH the motor to the charging battery and then back to the ground connection. I believe Dave has the negative of the boost module in the wrong place on the 3BGS drawing you posted. It should go to ground.

On the 1GBS the almost same thing happens except the NEGATIVE side of the motor goes back to the same battery that is supplying power for the boost module. Since those pulses are going to the POSITIVE of that battery it helps to keep that battery charged. So your blue arrows are AGAIN on the wrong side of the motor.

If you still refuse to accept this explanation then I am sorry. But I don't have any more time to waste explaining the same thing over and over again.

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citfta,

It is difficult talking with a guy who doesn't understand circuits and terminology. He calls the electric terminals on the motor input and output. By definition, the output of an electric motor is the mechanical power at the shaft. The input is the electric terminals. On the DC motor, current flows in the + terminal and out of the - terminal. It is the same current which flows in as flows out. Therefore a pulse on the + is also a pulse on the -.

By convention, motor current flows from + to - inside the motor. The current pulse which gotoluc tested on the moddified motor and was confirmed by Matt in the discussion following the test was a negative current pulse meaning for a short time current flowed from the motor + back to the source. This negative current would necessarily also flow into the motor - terminal. So this negative current pulse would be a charge pulse on the motor power source and a load pulse on battery C.

What Turion talks about is the normal motor current which does charge battery C in the 3bgs, as I've said from the start. I never argued this. He seems to think I have.

Now it appears he believes that the Matt modded motor pluses battery C with charge pulses. Maybe, maybe not. Somebody with a functional 3bgs with boost converter and Matt modded motor could easily find out with a scope. I'm curious about it. I'm not saying he's wrong. But having the boost converter there might actually prevent that from happening, not by means of the diode, but due to the converter's regulation attempting to maintain the set output voltage. The converter output is across the motor terminals in the 3bgs, so wouldn't it keep the voltage on the motor constant at the set point?

This is why I put the question to you instead of Turion. I didn't want this drama. I was just looking for a valid reason of using the Matt modded motor when there is a boost converter there. I guess it boils down to because Turion thinks it is doing something but has no evidence or data to substantiate it.

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In the other thread you said you didn't want to discuss any of the battery systems.. yet here you are..

I'm not sure what you mean by "Pulse current" If its the inductive discharge from the magnetic field collapse, the direction should be the same to the current that created the magnetic field. not how you drawn it.
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Old 11-30-2018, 02:57 AM
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Because Matt’s motor has times during its rotation when no completed electrical connection exists, you can think of it as a mechanical switch that is on more than it is off. Because of that, battery 3 is pulsed and charged. This is not rocket science. No boost module can cause a circuit to be completed that is MECHANICALLY open. Get it? How many times do I have to explain this. You nit picking terms my stroke your ego, but what you don’t understand about this stuff would fill volumes.
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bi,

In the other thread you said you didn't want to discuss any of the battery systems.. yet here you are..

I'm not sure what you mean by "Pulse current" If its the inductive discharge from the magnetic field collapse, the direction should be the same to the current that created the magnetic field. not how you drawn it.
Hi ricards,

Yes, here I am. I built Turion's 1bgs and never got any decent answers. So when I saw some talk of balance, I was curious enough to ask. Then just wanted citfta's opinion on something.

Pulse current in this case is due the modification which Matt does in the motor. This mod shifts commutation to a point where the armature coils actually cross over to opposite polarity field magnets. For a short time (pulse duration) the motor operates as a generator with reverse current. Supposedly this reverse current pulse travels back to the source battery giving it a charge pulse, which I don't argue about. Gotoluc and I think tinman did video experiments with scopes to demonstrate this. I'll paste it below. My whole question here was about this negative pulse being blocked by the boost converter. Motivation stems from being skewered for not using a Matt modded motor in my 1bgs when I don't think it would have made any difference anyway.

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This is the pulse which Matt claims is responsible for increased energy.



Screenshot from: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYcg...be&app=desktop

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Because Matt’s motor has times during its rotation when no completed electrical connection exists, you can think of it as a mechanical switch that is on more than it is off. Because of that, battery 3 is pulsed and charged. This is not rocket science. No boost module can cause a circuit to be completed that is MECHANICALLY open. ...
Good point. Don't forget arcing can complete the circuit when breaking inductive circuits. Ever put a scope on it?
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Yes. Several hundred times. I have done hundreds and hundreds of tests on this system. I know what it is capable of and WHY. This is just a toy to get people to see that these principles are real. Build it or don't. I don't really care.
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Hi ricards,

Yes, here I am. I built Turion's 1bgs and never got any decent answers. So when I saw some talk of balance, I was curious enough to ask. Then just wanted citfta's opinion on something.

Pulse current in this case is due the modification which Matt does in the motor. This mod shifts commutation to a point where the armature coils actually cross over to opposite polarity field magnets. For a short time (pulse duration) the motor operates as a generator with reverse current. Supposedly this reverse current pulse travels back to the source battery giving it a charge pulse, which I don't argue about. Gotoluc and I think tinman did video experiments with scopes to demonstrate this. I'll paste it below. My whole question here was about this negative pulse being blocked by the boost converter. Motivation stems from being skewered for not using a Matt modded motor in my 1bgs when I don't think it would have made any difference anyway.

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bi,

I think you're being rejected and booted off because you insist that you know better yet you have only tried once.

what are your intentions anyway?. are you here to look at this closely or discredit this?. or just killing time?

what exactly are you trying to point?.
maybe I can answer in a way that can satisfy you.
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You did not build “Turion’s” 3BGS, because you did not use a modified Razor Scooter motor in your build. I went through a detailed explanation of HOW we came to realize the importance of that motor in the circuit and discussed your chances of success without it. I stated that without it the system HAD to be tuned and even THEN it is a hit and miss prospect.

So your “claim” to have replicated The 3BGS is an outright lie. You might as well claim to have built a flying saucer.

Now with a stock off the shelf motor you MAY be able to get it to work if you tune the system, and I have posted instructions for that, but no promises.
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You did not build “Turion’s” 3BGS, because you did not use a modified Razor Scooter motor in your build. I went through a detailed explanation of HOW we came to realize the importance of that motor in the circuit and discussed your chances of success without it. I stated that without it the system HAD to be tuned and even THEN it is a hit and miss prospect.

So your “claim” to have replicated The 3BGS is an outright lie. You might as well claim to have built a flying saucer.

Now with a stock off the shelf motor you MAY be able to get it to work if you tune the system, and I have posted instructions for that, but no promises.
I have never said I built a 3bgs, just the single battery 1bgs.

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No, you did NOT build the single battery circuit as you claim. If you did not use a Matt motor you didn’t REPLICATE anything. Period. You got no results because you DID NOT REPLICATE what we designed. If I say it ten more times will it sink in? Didn’t think so. Your results are WORTHLESS, therefore your opinions and conclusions are WORTHLESS because they are based on faulty data. If you are not going to build it correctly please DISCONTINUE posting on this thread as you have NOTHING to contribute. There are plenty of other threads you can join and not build the proper circuit. I’m sure they would welcome your half/assed build and subsequent data and observations and conclusions with open arms. I do not. I welcome ANYONE who has built the proper circuit and will bust my butt to help them get it to the point where they are seeing PROPER results. You I have NO patience with. None. Zero. Zilch. Nada
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7:45 am with heavy rain a cup of hot java to kick the brains and this thread to just sit, think and hope.

Turion I can't finish the upright Lenz free generator until early next year. I want to use something as a generator until then. Don't think the single battery circuit will produce without a lenzless generator.

Just wondering if anyone has had any attempts with other types generators? I do have several I could try.

Want to hear some ideas from any "builder" or thinking to build.

Thanks and time to nuke the ole coffee.
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Wantomake,
Doesn’t sound like it’s a time issue completing the generator, so it must be a finance issue, which means a parts issue. Let me know what you need and I may already have it. I’m trying to reduce my inventory as I move stuff to the new house.
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This is exactly what I said in post #4359. Guess I need to draw a picture. And this is how Matt has described the charge pulse from his modded motor. The blue arrows represent the intended path of the charge pulse current from the Matt modded motor back to the source battery. However there is a diode inside the boost converter which blocks current in this direction.
So you seen all the movies in which the power supply caps rise from the return current. Thats the same thing that happens to the boost converter. The cap loads up beyond the nominal voltage. While thats happening the controller will limit the duty cycle and the amount of current flowing out.
The amount of power returned to the cap is marginal at best because of the hysteresis in the iron. Also, the cause of the heat.

The arrows are technically wrong but at the same time the same effective action is happening, the battery is just distributing less power.

Its not hard to see if you put a scope on it. And not just selectively before you film.

I do not understand the on going insistence to keep doubting everything, but then again thats why I am not making attempt to have an ongoing threads. Most of you are too broke or too scared to step outside of your comfort and try anything.

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So you seen all the movies in which the power supply caps rise from the return current. Thats the same thing that happens to the boost converter. The cap loads up beyond the nominal voltage. While thats happening the controller will limit the duty cycle and the amount of current flowing out.
The amount of power returned to the cap is marginal at best because of the hysteresis in the iron. Also, the cause of the heat.
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Thank you Matt,

This is what I've been talking about. The current pulse never reaches the source battery due to the presence of the boost converter. Hence my question: Why did I need to use your modded motor in the 1bgs system which I built and tested?

Like you told me here.

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@BI ... Thats modified motor which you have no experience with at 24 volt runs about 1.5 amp no load. The jumpy current is because the motor discharges back to source, a good portion of we put in it and the BEMF. ...
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Cheers to you,

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7:45 am with heavy rain a cup of hot java to kick the brains and this thread to just sit, think and hope.

Turion I can't finish the upright Lenz free generator until early next year. I want to use something as a generator until then. Don't think the single battery circuit will produce without a lenzless generator.

Just wondering if anyone has had any attempts with other types generators? I do have several I could try.

Want to hear some ideas from any "builder" or thinking to build.

Thanks and time to nuke the ole coffee.
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Hi James, I am working on a permanent magnet motor / generator very much similar to the South-African developer's version described here:

http://free-energy-info.co.uk/SChapter6.pdf

Apparently, the generation effects sought for are achievable without using a magnet rotor, but I was planning on using one anyway so that I could visually see whats happening. At the moment, however, I AM too broke to do anything - waiting on enough funds to afford super glue to keep those magnet bullets in place.

Recently had enough motivation to go through my windmill / solar battery system and throw out about 20 bad batteries. Almost all of them have internal shorts that cause them to heat up and suck all the voltage out of my system.

I did want to experiment with a solenoid motor / generator by converting an old china diesel motor to a one lung solenoid magnet motor. I had wanted to incorporate extreme repelling force of caps charged up to several K.V. then discharged into coils. You can find demos of this tech from Ismael Aviso from the Philippines https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxA6fDe3J6c&hl=en&fs=1&">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxA6fDe3J6c&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344">
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eCsVPmEjyQ&hl=en&fs=1&">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eCsVPmEjyQ&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344">
and Dimitry from Russia. But I realized that most of the mechanical energy released will be ate up in internal friction of the engine, with not much left over to use to drive a generator.

I don't have any suitable motors to modify for a Matt-motor conversion, or proper voltage dc-dc converters to try the 3bgs system. But I would like to at least achieve some success in one of these systems before I die.
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Wantomake,
Doesn’t sound like it’s a time issue completing the generator, so it must be a finance issue, which means a parts issue. Let me know what you need and I may already have it. I’m trying to reduce my inventory as I move stuff to the new house.
Turion,
You are correct. These are the parts I have:
1 modified Matt motor 1016
1 rotor you sent me with magnets
1 coil wound to specs
1 boost module 10 amp
1 threaded axle with various nuts and such

Of course hardware and such no problem. Mostly the upright vertical holders is the most expensive for this build.

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Hi James, I am working on a permanent magnet motor / generator very much similar to the South-African developer's version described here:

http://free-energy-info.co.uk/SChapter6.pdf

Apparently, the generation effects sought for are achievable without using a magnet rotor, but I was planning on using one anyway so that I could visually see whats happening. At the moment, however, I AM too broke to do anything - waiting on enough funds to afford super glue to keep those magnet bullets in place.

Recently had enough motivation to go through my windmill / solar battery system and throw out about 20 bad batteries. Almost all of them have internal shorts that cause them to heat up and suck all the voltage out of my system.

I did want to experiment with a solenoid motor / generator by converting an old china diesel motor to a one lung solenoid magnet motor. I had wanted to incorporate extreme repelling force of caps charged up to several K.V. then discharged into coils. You can find demos of this tech from Ismael Aviso from the Philippines https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxA6fDe3J6c&hl=en&fs=1&">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxA6fDe3J6c&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344">
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eCsVPmEjyQ&hl=en&fs=1&">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eCsVPmEjyQ&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344">
and Dimitry from Russia. But I realized that most of the mechanical energy released will be ate up in internal friction of the engine, with not much left over to use to drive a generator.

I don't have any suitable motors to modify for a Matt-motor conversion, or proper voltage dc-dc converters to try the 3bgs system. But I would like to at least achieve some success in one of these systems before I die.
Ken,
Thanks for the link. I understand about the battery banks for the solar. Strange as this sounds, some of my batteries are over 8 years old. I've used them in the 3BGS setup and that sweet pulsing kept them healthy. As long as I watched and kept electrolytes healthy the batts were good.

As far as the generator goes I'll see what happens with the upright. I also want to do this exactly as specs are posted here to see this baby turn out some power. Power for what you ask....my space ship of course.


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