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Old 01-10-2018, 01:34 AM
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Follow the video

John,
I did follow Matt's videos very closely. It pulls about .07 amps without a load. When turning the generator at 12 +- volts pulls about 2 amps or so. Also recorded .04 ohms across each coil. Check for shorts to the rotor body as well.

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Do not follow Matt on the path he is on now. It’s not safe. And watch out for the green glowing rocks. You never know where they have been.
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Old 01-10-2018, 01:20 PM
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Wantomake, thank you for the info will check ohm reading between coils and ground
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Old 01-10-2018, 03:32 PM
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Wantomake, thank you for the info will check ohm reading between coils and ground
John,
Let us know your progress so we can help you.

Turion and others here can help out and save you some pain with the build. With all this help it would seem more would be interested and get on this path with us.

Matthew and Dave have been good teachers for me. I'm trying to get my wood cut to size for the generator, but got stuck at wife's job again today. Owner is sick therefore I fill in for them.

But do post pictures or video to help us help you.
We may be a dysfunctional family here but progress is forward.
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Old 01-11-2018, 01:39 PM
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Ordered the motor from Amazon. Will pick up the batteries as soon as I get back from vacation. Will keep you guys posted, thanks! John
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Batteries.

John,
I would ask Turion or Matthew which batteries they would suggest.

As for myself, I use marine 115 ah batteries that is part of the solar setup for my shop. My shop is some distance from my house and besides it feels like it's part of this Free Energy mind set to have solar. The marine batteries was 80-90 dollars as I remember. But they are 7-8 years old now. The pulsing from the 3BGS has giving them longer battery lives than normal it seems. But I don't own a boat and don't know.

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Turion what do you recommend?

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Old 01-12-2018, 05:05 PM
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Old 01-13-2018, 06:45 PM
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Warning!

The basically self sustaining system Wantomake is running here based on what Matt and I have shown was NEVER INTENDED to be the “Basic Free Energy Device.” It was only to show that what we have been saying is TRUE, and that the 3 Battery System works, despite what a lot of people have said. But the setup Wantomake is running is NOT the most efficient use of the energy he has created. The 3 Battery System was only designed to run a single load, THE MOTOR for free, by rotating the batteries. When energy is pulled OUT of the batteries as the same time you are charging them, it costs you.
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Nice Mod.

Majestic81,
Looks good and glad to see another builder here. I used trifilar on my mods as opposed to your bifilar wound coils.

Let us know how it performs.

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Don't forget the balancing of the rotor.
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Old 01-13-2018, 08:13 PM
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Sure ; seemed to be pretty balanced ; using the balancing tip of Matt.

I believe Matt mentioned bi-filar in his video's ; I want to have a basic reference motor and setup first to compare to the 350w one which I will wind with 40-30-30 with 8-strains of Litz wire.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Litz-Wire-3...72.m2749.l2649

In Spirit of Joe Newman & John Bedini ; more branches / more copper is more power.
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Sure ; seemed to be pretty balanced ; using the balancing tip of Matt.

I believe Matt mentioned bi-filar in his video's ; I want to have a basic reference motor and setup first to compare to the 350w one which I will wind with 40-30-30 with 8-strains of Litz wire.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Litz-Wire-3...72.m2749.l2649

In Spirit of Joe Newman & John Bedini ; more branches / more copper is more power.
The wire sleeves you have in that motor are way better than the ones I got stuck with. They're easier to rewind without a hassle. Where did you get that motor?
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The wire sleeves you have in that motor are way better than the ones I got stuck with. They're easier to rewind without a hassle. Where did you get that motor?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/ELECTRIC-SC...72.m2749.l2649
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Larger generator progress

Just wanted to post some pics of my Dave's modified generator.
All four boards came out fairly close to the pattern. The 5 larger holes for coils. The smaller center hole for the 1/2" shaft.

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I need to stand each 24" x 24" board about 3" apart to hold the coils in place. So I plan to use 4 1/2" bolts to hold it upright.
Will use plastic threaded bolts 4 1/2" long and bolts to prevent any drag on the rotor. Was wanting to use brass bolts but read that even brass can get magnetized over time.

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Old 01-14-2018, 06:25 PM
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One more question, should I wind the motor with bifilar windings 23awg?
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Old 01-14-2018, 08:11 PM
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@Matt ;

Is your MattJones Guide Pt 1 Sep 24 2011.pdf still relevant in light of recent advancements?

I've gathered all the components to build the smaller one ;

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Old 01-14-2018, 10:47 PM
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Not my place to correct or tell anyone how to replicate this 3BGS.

I have had this conversation with Aaron about how many wires in parallel and the size wire.

I have success with my setup because the two instructors that have invented (Matt's modified motor)or are the most experienced with the 3BGS idea. Matthew and Turion. They said they don't mind helping anyone that is willing to listen and follow the already "posted" build instructions.

According to Matthew he didn't make that pdf. Turion said another member here made that pdf.

Read the already posted instructions.

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Old 01-15-2018, 03:37 AM
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PDF on Tesla Switch

Everything in the Tesla Switch Guide Matt posted is correct. Although I'm pretty sure he didn't include EVERYTHING he knows about the Tesla Switch. This document is based on the work of Benitez. I've built every one of the configurations Matt shows in this document, including the BIG one, and I can assure you that they all work. Matt helped me do this years ago. I should mention that there were issues NOT covered in the written directions, and there may have even been some errors in the written directions. One thing for sure is I needed Matt's HELP to get mine running.

Your question was, "Is it relevant?" That system is incredibly relevant in that it teaches you how to run loads between the potential difference, as does the 3 Battery System. So both are relevant. I think what you are REALLY asking is which system will get you excess energy or the MOST excess energy.

That is going to depend on the size of the system you build. And what YOU design the system to do. Both are limited by batteries, and batteries are affected by temperature. Both have a collapsing coil that aids in the charging of the batteries. Both take advantage of potential difference. One produces mechanical gain, while the other produces pure electrical power on the transformer secondary.

What everyone here really needs to understand is that BOTH of these systems teach you principles that you need to apply to the construction of energy systems. Let me give you an example.

I build a three battery setup that runs my motor for free and I connect my motor to a generator. Now I use the output of my generator to run lights OR to simply charge up some batteries.

If I have built the Tesla Switch I use the secondary off the transformer to run lights OR charge some batteries.


With either system I can accomplish the same goal. Both WILL WORK if you know what you are doing and build it correctly. Where you will get help when the Tesla switch doesn't work like you expect it to, I couldn't say. If you will notice, it is a MUCH MORE complicated system.

But here's the thing. If you DO exactly what I showed doing in the bold type above, you are a short term success but a long term failure, because you haven't learned the MOST IMPORTANT lesson we have been trying to get across to people. We're horrible teachers, aren't we? Because I bet nobody has a CLUE what I am talking about, despite the fact that I have said it probably a couple HUNDRED times on these threads.

I want you all to think about it for a bit, and then I will say it again, because I know you need to be reminded. But this time tattoo it on your forehead so you see it every time you look in a mirror.
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Different PDF

Raymundo,
Sorry you are correct. It's not same pdf. I thought we were on the 3BGS subject here. I have seen this pdf some time ago but lost it. Thanks for re-posting it.

Yes that is a Matthew or Turion question. I'm constructing larger Dave's modified generator. Got more parts today.

Again sorry and thanks,
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PS Just seen Dave's post.
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I'm not sure we are talking about the same PDF, wantomake.

The PDF what I mean ; is Matt hardcore guide to HIS teslaswitch, written in his own words.

Let me be very specific about this and add the file I am talking about ; as it seems to be forgotten.

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I understand that document is open source but since I have wrote it I have learned a lot and realize there is a tremendous amount of errors in it. The system outlined in that document does not work as good as the three battery setup, which now is what I would endorse above all else.

If you wouldn't mind could you take it down so people are not mislead or confused by conflicting setups. If not I understand, I'll direct all the questions to you. I cannot keep up with them.

Build the slow 3 battery setup for best benefit of your education.

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That was funny, made my day!

thanks for the 3512, maybe a blue moon also helps. Worked for me..
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I understand that document is open source but since I have wrote it I have learned a lot and realize there is a tremendous amount of errors in it. The system outlined in that document does not work as good as the three battery setup, which now is what I would endorse above all else.

If you wouldn't mind could you take it down so people are not mislead or confused by conflicting setups.

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That was initially my question ; I've removed the document as it will only misslead myself and other people.

That is not the goal here.
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Hi Dave!
Pulse is the answer!
And deep cycle!
Still trying to find my way after your last email. I have to do my homework first and then ask for the right questions. An effort not to look a complete idiot. People are watching.
Wantomake with his project also helps alot!!!
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Hi Dave!
Pulse is the answer!
And deep cycle!
Still trying to find my way after your last email. I have to do my homework first and then ask for the right questions. An effort not to look a complete idiot. People are watching.
Wantomake with his project also helps alot!!!
Darn it, I had to work all day so no shop time. Now a snow storm may be coming.

No if you are building you are smart and not an idiot. Glad the project is helping someone. Welcome to all builders.

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Old 01-17-2018, 02:32 AM
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Just an update. Got my 90ah deep cycle batteries and wired them up! Just waiting for the motor now.

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