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Old 01-09-2018, 02:54 AM
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Got some of the materials today.
4- 3/4" x 24" x 24" plywood pieces leftover from project at mom's home
3- 1/4" x 18" x 24" acrylic to use as top of generator and (2)spool holders
8 to 10 - brass bolts 4" long and nuts, washers
1- 1/2" x 3' steel rod or threaded rod for rotor shaft
1- pvc 8' pipe for bracing size not decided
wood glue
3 1/2" wood drill bit used to bore holes for spools
Will be using oak wood or 1" plywood for rotor.

Also will need larger My1020 scooter motor.
I already have a few 3" spools with 3/4" in core center.

Anybody is welcome to join and build with us.

My present generator will only run the shop lights and the system even in cold temps 35 f or lower. I only use it when I'm in the shop. But when balanced low and high sides, it will not lose voltage even after sundown. During daylight hours the solar charges the system battery bank. When I turn on the 3BGS the solar is turned off because it overloads the inverter and it shuts off. It's not much but enough to meet my needs in the shop.

That's why we trying to build Dave's modified generator to get more wattage and do more work.

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To All future builders,
I just updated the parts list for the larger generator build. It will be a slow build this week with all that is happening- life, part time job, time for grandchildren, you understand.

I want to post videos and pictures here as I progress so those that want to really be able to just build and see that FE with your own hands and thoughts is possible.

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Hi everybody. I'm here in PR on vacation and had time to read through this thread from the beginning. I decided when I get back on Saturday I will order the motor and batteries and start a replication. I have one question. In the MY1016 PDF it says to wind 50 turns on the top , 50 next and 50 the last. On Matt's videos he says to wind 40 turns on the first and 30 on the other two. Which is recommended? Thanks Dave and wantomake and everybody for sharing your work here! I can't wait to start! I will be posting my work when I get the parts. Thanks again!
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Old 01-09-2018, 04:56 PM
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Matt and I didn’t write the pdf. Go by Matt’s videos.
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Old 01-09-2018, 06:30 PM
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Matt's video

Sorry I'm at work(part timer) and didn't get to see the forum until now.

Darn bills!!!

That pdf confused me too. I dug around some months ago until finding his video's.


Like I mentioned earlier, the balancing is a pain but can be done.

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Old 01-09-2018, 07:22 PM
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Motor PDF

Actually I think that PDF was done by one of the people on the forum who was trying to be helpful. It may have even been done at a time before we put the exact specs out there and were just trying different wiring to see what worked best. We had the “effect” working. But not necessarily the EFFICIENCY. When THAT got figured out, it meant specific numbers. Different sized wires makes a difference too. Those numbers are for a specific size wire.
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Old 01-10-2018, 12:26 AM
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I must inform everyone that there is a trick at play. Unbenounced to anyone I was only....able to make the 3 battery system work WHILE (thats an important while!) I was on peyote, and just after 50 nickel shot of heroin (YES DUMB A$$ Mikey you were right I am dope fiend) oh (AND A DRUNK) and 12, 12 packs of beer, at the same time....wait for it.....Mars and Jupiter were aligned with the moon, I sh!t a green glowing rock!!!. I then placed that rock in the stator of motor being careful not to crack it, by the way I have to take hit....Of that CRACK!!!...My beautiful white pearl!!! (That was important crack hit!!). Now the man is on my tail and bugs are crawling in my skin, AHHHHH!!!, oh the $25 crack hit is gone now, but I am awoken to finish the revelation I am revealing.
The rock spun as if the energy was reacting with the stator of the motor and outcame this ENERGY, that sounded something LIKE ....(WAIT FOR IT) I sh!t myself. And it ran, IT RAN I TELL YOU!!!!...
KILOWATTS OF POWER!!!! Hold that thought I am going to do another hit.

OH YA!!!! Be careful the bugs and the man will get you too. What the f!ck am I doing here, Wheres my F!ckin gun, Oh damn there goes another $25 buzz.

Its ALL FAKE!!!

AHHHHHHHHH!

I only have one thing left to say, $HITTIN big green rocks hurt...(WAIT FOR IT) A Lot!!!!

The F!cking Government made me do it... I love you guys.

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Old 01-10-2018, 01:15 AM
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Thank you I will wind it 40, 30, 30
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Old 01-10-2018, 01:34 AM
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Follow the video

John,
I did follow Matt's videos very closely. It pulls about .07 amps without a load. When turning the generator at 12 +- volts pulls about 2 amps or so. Also recorded .04 ohms across each coil. Check for shorts to the rotor body as well.

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Old 01-10-2018, 02:46 AM
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Do not follow Matt on the path he is on now. It’s not safe. And watch out for the green glowing rocks. You never know where they have been.
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Old 01-10-2018, 01:20 PM
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Wantomake, thank you for the info will check ohm reading between coils and ground
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Wantomake, thank you for the info will check ohm reading between coils and ground
John,
Let us know your progress so we can help you.

Turion and others here can help out and save you some pain with the build. With all this help it would seem more would be interested and get on this path with us.

Matthew and Dave have been good teachers for me. I'm trying to get my wood cut to size for the generator, but got stuck at wife's job again today. Owner is sick therefore I fill in for them.

But do post pictures or video to help us help you.
We may be a dysfunctional family here but progress is forward.
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Old 01-11-2018, 01:39 PM
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Ordered the motor from Amazon. Will pick up the batteries as soon as I get back from vacation. Will keep you guys posted, thanks! John
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Batteries.

John,
I would ask Turion or Matthew which batteries they would suggest.

As for myself, I use marine 115 ah batteries that is part of the solar setup for my shop. My shop is some distance from my house and besides it feels like it's part of this Free Energy mind set to have solar. The marine batteries was 80-90 dollars as I remember. But they are 7-8 years old now. The pulsing from the 3BGS has giving them longer battery lives than normal it seems. But I don't own a boat and don't know.

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Have safe trip back and keep up the good work.
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Hi I was planning on getting 4 of these batteries: is this ok, or do you think I need bigger ah batteries?


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Turion what do you recommend?

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The basically self sustaining system Wantomake is running here based on what Matt and I have shown was NEVER INTENDED to be the “Basic Free Energy Device.” It was only to show that what we have been saying is TRUE, and that the 3 Battery System works, despite what a lot of people have said. But the setup Wantomake is running is NOT the most efficient use of the energy he has created. The 3 Battery System was only designed to run a single load, THE MOTOR for free, by rotating the batteries. When energy is pulled OUT of the batteries as the same time you are charging them, it costs you.
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Nice Mod.

Majestic81,
Looks good and glad to see another builder here. I used trifilar on my mods as opposed to your bifilar wound coils.

Let us know how it performs.

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Don't forget the balancing of the rotor.
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Sure ; seemed to be pretty balanced ; using the balancing tip of Matt.

I believe Matt mentioned bi-filar in his video's ; I want to have a basic reference motor and setup first to compare to the 350w one which I will wind with 40-30-30 with 8-strains of Litz wire.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Litz-Wire-3...72.m2749.l2649

In Spirit of Joe Newman & John Bedini ; more branches / more copper is more power.
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Sure ; seemed to be pretty balanced ; using the balancing tip of Matt.

I believe Matt mentioned bi-filar in his video's ; I want to have a basic reference motor and setup first to compare to the 350w one which I will wind with 40-30-30 with 8-strains of Litz wire.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Litz-Wire-3...72.m2749.l2649

In Spirit of Joe Newman & John Bedini ; more branches / more copper is more power.
The wire sleeves you have in that motor are way better than the ones I got stuck with. They're easier to rewind without a hassle. Where did you get that motor?
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The wire sleeves you have in that motor are way better than the ones I got stuck with. They're easier to rewind without a hassle. Where did you get that motor?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/ELECTRIC-SC...72.m2749.l2649
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Larger generator progress

Just wanted to post some pics of my Dave's modified generator.
All four boards came out fairly close to the pattern. The 5 larger holes for coils. The smaller center hole for the 1/2" shaft.

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I need to stand each 24" x 24" board about 3" apart to hold the coils in place. So I plan to use 4 1/2" bolts to hold it upright.
Will use plastic threaded bolts 4 1/2" long and bolts to prevent any drag on the rotor. Was wanting to use brass bolts but read that even brass can get magnetized over time.

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One more question, should I wind the motor with bifilar windings 23awg?
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Is your MattJones Guide Pt 1 Sep 24 2011.pdf still relevant in light of recent advancements?

I've gathered all the components to build the smaller one ;

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Not my place to correct or tell anyone how to replicate this 3BGS.

I have had this conversation with Aaron about how many wires in parallel and the size wire.

I have success with my setup because the two instructors that have invented (Matt's modified motor)or are the most experienced with the 3BGS idea. Matthew and Turion. They said they don't mind helping anyone that is willing to listen and follow the already "posted" build instructions.

According to Matthew he didn't make that pdf. Turion said another member here made that pdf.

Read the already posted instructions.

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PDF on Tesla Switch

Everything in the Tesla Switch Guide Matt posted is correct. Although I'm pretty sure he didn't include EVERYTHING he knows about the Tesla Switch. This document is based on the work of Benitez. I've built every one of the configurations Matt shows in this document, including the BIG one, and I can assure you that they all work. Matt helped me do this years ago. I should mention that there were issues NOT covered in the written directions, and there may have even been some errors in the written directions. One thing for sure is I needed Matt's HELP to get mine running.

Your question was, "Is it relevant?" That system is incredibly relevant in that it teaches you how to run loads between the potential difference, as does the 3 Battery System. So both are relevant. I think what you are REALLY asking is which system will get you excess energy or the MOST excess energy.

That is going to depend on the size of the system you build. And what YOU design the system to do. Both are limited by batteries, and batteries are affected by temperature. Both have a collapsing coil that aids in the charging of the batteries. Both take advantage of potential difference. One produces mechanical gain, while the other produces pure electrical power on the transformer secondary.

What everyone here really needs to understand is that BOTH of these systems teach you principles that you need to apply to the construction of energy systems. Let me give you an example.

I build a three battery setup that runs my motor for free and I connect my motor to a generator. Now I use the output of my generator to run lights OR to simply charge up some batteries.

If I have built the Tesla Switch I use the secondary off the transformer to run lights OR charge some batteries.


With either system I can accomplish the same goal. Both WILL WORK if you know what you are doing and build it correctly. Where you will get help when the Tesla switch doesn't work like you expect it to, I couldn't say. If you will notice, it is a MUCH MORE complicated system.

But here's the thing. If you DO exactly what I showed doing in the bold type above, you are a short term success but a long term failure, because you haven't learned the MOST IMPORTANT lesson we have been trying to get across to people. We're horrible teachers, aren't we? Because I bet nobody has a CLUE what I am talking about, despite the fact that I have said it probably a couple HUNDRED times on these threads.

I want you all to think about it for a bit, and then I will say it again, because I know you need to be reminded. But this time tattoo it on your forehead so you see it every time you look in a mirror.
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