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Old 12-10-2017, 04:06 PM
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2nd boost converter

Got the 2nd boost converter yesterday and plan to install it today.

It takes time and understanding to balance this system to do work and loop back on itself. I care nothing for the COP of this unit or OU.

My plan and/or goal is to simply have a back up if the grid fails during storms, maintenance (transformers), etc.

At this point I'm studying to see which component bares the stress of this system. Which component actually will burn up first. Motor, generator, boosters, inverter, or the batteries. So far the booster has smoked twice now but they are only $12 each. Only two in last two years which is low count for me. But still that takes time to get new ones in. Overcharging the battery bank is largest failure thus far.

Balance as one correspondent has instructed my curious mind,
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Old 12-12-2017, 01:35 AM
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Balancing

Connected second booster today into the setup to see what happens.

The balancing involved was a pain but is doable. I've learned that there's a way to keep the primaries charged and maintain voltage in the #3 charging battery at same time. But, more than running the lights in my shop, it's a great learning system.

I appreciate the effort from Matthew and Dave to post all this information and leave it here for any to follow and replicate.
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Old 12-12-2017, 01:01 PM
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2018 and beyond?

To All,

I do understand the frustrations of non participation of so many good minds to replicate here. Matthew and Dave have poured out all the details to get this system on your bench to start your own journey to freedom to whatever you want with it.

I'm a former teacher and missionary church builder for Japan. I've seen non participation up close and very personal. But I knew if one person would follow then that one could change five and five would change twenty five. That's the mission here to show/present to the audience and let that one person take it from there. I did get one and two to follow and left the building to them. In Japan I'm sure. We go every year or so to see what one has grown into. Amazing.

It's my last month on this thread. Either others will continue here or not.

I will be so busy with this 3BGS on a larger scale next year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tE5rzLVNQD4
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Old 12-14-2017, 01:43 PM
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To All if any,
The balancing between primaries and charge side , or high and low side is important. If not balanced the potential difference will decrease to unsafe operations levels.

The converters must be adjusted until the PD levels out. That's not the only problem or adjustment needed. The amp settings must be done also, which is taking much adjustments.

The motor/generator setup must be properly coupled and aligned to stop additional amperage draw.

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Old 12-18-2017, 01:38 PM
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Holiday cheer and slow down

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This is the time of holiday season and less attention toward projects and testing. I could shut myself in the shop for hours but life still needs attention.

I want to expand on the 3BGS build with a larger generator and prime mover. This will off-set the balance of the system at present. But that's a story for later.

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Sorry for the poor quality. My daughter is trying hard to catch me up to this 21ST century. No LOL.
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The generator. It puts outs about 28-35 volts. According to the RPM's. Through the FWBR of course.

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Old 12-20-2017, 02:33 PM
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Tried a different and good setup arrangement yesterday with the 3BGS. I saw this Turion setup on YouTube.

It worked better than I anticipated. First balancing the high and low sides, then tried to get longer sustainable power from the charged battery #3. Moved (2) of 8 total batteries over from 2nd and 1st position to the #3 charging position. Total of 6 parallel charge and 1 single #2 and #1.

Then for test reasons didn't use the prime mover motor booster. As system was started the motor was using 13 volts on meter. But the motor speed increased as #2 and #1 charged up. Then the motor was using 14-15 volts. At same time #3 was steady. Only the motor amps and shop lights were powered by the system. Not the neighborhood houses or a factory. But it was self looping and powering the motor and shop lights.

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Old 12-20-2017, 03:57 PM
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Looks very interesting. Lot of time and money.
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Old 12-20-2017, 05:39 PM
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Looks very interesting. Lot of time and money.
Yes lots of study, research, time, financial....but that free feeling that I can power something that friends graciously helped me to build;

PRICELESS !!!!!!

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Hi wantomake.
I am sorry didn't quite understand where you had inverter connected to. Is it at the third bat(6 batteries)? I suppose it is there, as you have moved the first booster. So if that's so, then at first you were balancing between the load of the third battery and the load of the motor, as we used to do in previous years, when we used bad batteries. Am I right?
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Old 12-22-2017, 01:47 PM
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Yes off third battery. And balance the system.

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Old 12-22-2017, 02:03 PM
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That's great wantomake! Do you have any load on the generator on the other side? or do you have it just running unloaded?
I will try the same with of the self motors i have around, to see what happens.
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Old 12-22-2017, 02:33 PM
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That's great wantomake! Do you have any load on the generator on the other side? or do you have it just running unloaded?
I will try the same with of the self motors i have around, to see what happens.
liber63,
I'll only tell you what's already posted by Turion and Matthew on this and other threads concerning the 3BGS setup.

You must follow the instructions they provided for free. I've spent much time studying these threads with note taking, spent monies, tests, failures, etc. All the answers are posted. Not trying to be rude. Just please understand if you want this to be successful build then you must go the same route I did.

What reason would a generator be used for? To loop back to the system? To power a load? Try it and be amazed at the answer.

In other words build as they stated and follow their path. Nobody here believed them. That's why I'll be done posting here come Jan. 1st. Why did Turion and Matt leave ? Can you blame them? No.

Again I hope you can build it and enjoy. Have a good Holiday.
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Old 12-26-2017, 03:50 PM
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Happy after Christmas to All,
Will be doing more test with simple 3BGS setup this week. Trying to get back to testing and understanding how to improve any part of the input and output of the system.

Every replication has pros and cons. I'm trying to get past the drawbacks to improve the output back into the system.

Will make a youtube later,
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Hello to All,
Just posted video of rail I added to the 3rd battery position to help the batteries in that position to discharge and charge equally as a friend suggested. So used some 1/2" copper pipe and placed along the sides of the bank and made all connectors same length.

It does take longer to adjust the balancing of the system but runs for very long periods without losing any voltage.

Again only powering shop lights and the motor at 7.5 amps or 109.5 watts. The overall system needs a larger motor/generator to power more output. This just a simple system with two boosters.

I do want to add a buck converter to aid in charging the primaries or the 3rd battery.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sl9mfHmJkNw

Hope the video is clear.
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I will find some fresh copper today and make my battery rails so they
are all the same length. I am using aluminum rails, maybe not as good.

The radiant I understand travels on the outside so I will use copper pipe
also and then do the best I can getting the connection points all about
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Wouldn't it be interesting if we established an email list of folks who actually BUILD THINGS so that if someone had a working free energy device they wanted to disclose, they could pop into a local library somewhere and dump the plans to everyone on that list at the same time? I know bringing a working device here to the forum is ONE way to get it out there, but being sure that the plans got out to a lot of folks all at once would be a pretty cool thing to have all set up in advance. People could create an email account JUST to have it listed on that list and not use it for anything else so that it would be fairly anonymous. Yes, they would run the risk of spam and bullcrap being sent to their new email address, but they could block anyone who did that. Just a thought. I know there are some folks who have some things they might want to share some day.
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Old 12-29-2017, 01:37 PM
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Wouldn't it be interesting if we established an email list of folks who actually BUILD THINGS so that if someone had a working free energy device they wanted to disclose, they could pop into a local library somewhere and dump the plans to everyone on that list at the same time? I know bringing a working device here to the forum is ONE way to get it out there, but being sure that the plans got out to a lot of folks all at once would be a pretty cool thing to have all set up in advance. People could create an email account JUST to have it listed on that list and not use it for anything else so that it would be fairly anonymous. Yes, they would run the risk of spam and bullcrap being sent to their new email address, but they could block anyone who did that. Just a thought. I know there are some folks who have some things they might want to share some day.
Turion,
That's an interesting proposal. But how many are willing to actually build this device? How many would need to show actual video proof before some inventor open sourced a working device?

One would need to get these e-mails from individuals and compile that list. How?
Where?
I know of two here on this forum. I'm ready sign me up.
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This is not a new idea, and has been proposed here before, several years ago, in fact. I was open to it then, as I am now. Many here either know of someone or have heard of someone being sabotaged or outright killed for attempting to bring free energy to the public. Many are either skeptical or even paranoid at such a suggestion. My suggestion would be tousle some kind of code, say some obscure code no one uses anymore, like morse code. It still wouldn't be safe, but it would require more time and effort to decipher it. I have information going back to at least 2000. Much of that information is no longer available on the internet or elsewhere. Some of it is downloaded on floppy discs, if you remember those. if it were set up on another server who was involved would be even better. Good luck. stealth
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I can not see how this can be done, other than someone make this list and distribute it to all the members of the list. I sent Dave my email address, in case he would like to make this list. Either Dave or anybody else all the same.
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Old 12-30-2017, 03:41 AM
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Wouldn't it be interesting if we established an email list of folks who actually BUILD THINGS so that if someone had a working free energy device they wanted to disclose, they could pop into a local library somewhere and dump the plans to everyone on that list at the same time? I know bringing a working device here to the forum is ONE way to get it out there, but being sure that the plans got out to a lot of folks all at once would be a pretty cool thing to have all set up in advance. People could create an email account JUST to have it listed on that list and not use it for anything else so that it would be fairly anonymous. Yes, they would run the risk of spam and bullcrap being sent to their new email address, but they could block anyone who did that. Just a thought. I know there are some folks who have some things they might want to share some day.
To anyone who wants to be on this "list" that is only an idea at this point.

Please read the part that says "list of folks who ACTUALLY build things ". Knowing how the basic rule is here on this forum that if you replicate then you show proof of your work. Then those that are the inventors or started the thread will help you with your build.

Also there are two types of people that occupy this one planet our home. Those that want to make a difference for this mother earth, preserve what's left of it for our children's children. Take chances even if it is dangerous. Then there are the others that don't believe one person can change any of the above mentioned. Only will sit back and not try anything difficult or hard.

Which are you?

The danger here is not "the powers that be", but coming on this forum and finding educated engineers, smart builders, fully furnished shop owners, and trained specialist who just argue and pronounce you "wrong" or misleading. That's the danger - closed ignorance in brilliant minds.

What a shame.
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Old 12-30-2017, 10:27 PM
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Looking back at the closed thread, there are quite a few who bought the MY1016 motor to modify it per Matt's instructions. Too bad not more of them shared long term about their experiments or if they even did the mods.

I just bought 2 of them - the 350 something watt ones. Matt posted somewhere that the only difference between the 250 watt versions is the wire size so they'll work fine.

This is the exact one: https://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-5...2F192406184087 only $30 with free shipping. Seller is in Washington state so hope I get them quick.

@Wantomake, you said: "Using 24 awg trifilar connected parallel 100 feet long. 40,30,30 turns on each side of rotor." To clarify, if you have 3 wires paralleled and you wind them together, are you then actually having 120, 90 and 90 turns? If so, they'll act as one larger gauge winding - just want to make sure.

1 pound of 24awg is only $16 something: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...SIN=B007OYG9HS

So grand total for the Matt Motor is $46 for a motor and wire plus effort - that's inexpensive for what it does.

@Matt - although the modified motor goes quite a bit faster for less input, does it have as much torque? Could it drive a scooter? It seems it may sacrifice torque for speed. However, if it is intended to drive a low drag generator, then it is suited for the task in addition to being the proper waveform generator as the load.

I've been looking to test a different motor on the Kromrey and I think this will work perfect for it. Also, to run the Kromrey in this exact same method that you all are doing here is what I've been moving toward but have only had time to do some testing and experimenting with the Kromrey as is.

The current motor is an old DC motor - whatever John put on there. Doing some mechanical work tests, it seems to be about 80% efficient, which is much better that I expected.

I originally wanted a ZFM as the driver since it is a pulsed motor, but short term, just don't have the time to make one in the middle of a big manufacturing project we have going on. Not enough hours in the day.

At the 2016 conference Peter showed his SG with the battery rotator and the low drag gen coils. We wound those Tesla bifilar pancake style but with maybe 10-12 windings in parallel where each top wire is connected to the bottom of the next and so forth - they really work well. So there are obviously various low drag generator methods that can be coupled with the pulsed Matt Motor.

I'll post some pics and/or vids of my motor mod when I get them. Will have to rewatch the vids - not sure if winding direction was specified.

I put out a post about this project you and Dave spearheaded in Energy Times today so hopefully a lot more people will take interest and that there are more builders to will share their work. And a big thanks to all of you who ARE sharing your work here - it is very encouraging!
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Turion,
That's an interesting proposal. But how many are willing to actually build this device? How many would need to show actual video proof before some inventor open sourced a working device?

One would need to get these e-mails from individuals and compile that list. How?
Where?
I know of two here on this forum. I'm ready sign me up.
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Keep in mind that at the Energy Science & Technology Conference, there have been quite a few exclusive disclosures by inventors who have kept their work private for years. They may have shared some openly before the conferences, but kept the magic recipe to themselves.

Jim Murray disclosed the Transforming Generator and Dynaflux Alternator technologies so anyone can replicate them and gave everyone the blessing to do what they want with them - he also included info that was left out of the patents. Paul Babcock revealed how his motor worked to fill in the gaps of what is not in his patent - it is still patent protected, but everyone can learn the principles and apply them in other variations as long as the patent claims aren't violated. Graham Gunderson showed the entire plans on one of his circuits that was barely over 1.0 COP, but that was just to prove the point but it's all fully disclosed.

They didn't wait for others to replicate their work for this to happen - simply, it is just the time to come out in the open about this work and that seemed to be the commonality. Of course they want to share it with people who are genuinely interested such as attendees at the conference or those who get the video presentations later. If others replicate it, great, if not, then they made a huge contribution to the knowledge base anyway. And of course this applies to healing technologies and other categories as well. Just my 2 cents.
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Closer look on this, I think the "Bad Battery" can be replaced with a Capacitor with a Transistor (BJT) parallel through a load with a base connected to a zener diode around 12v. or less... that's an easy test for me when I get home.
I also read somewhere in these pages that the bad battery is no longer needed though I might have overlook at what was the replacement for it...

It is really sad to see all the good guys go private....

because of bashing skeptics?..
because of non-building theorist?..
because of closed-minded experts?..
or simply because there are no-one left to communicate with..

Focus

before you go let me share to you a story that probably you can relate..

this thread has been up for longer than my membership on this forum..
though most of the videos are no longer available.. there are traces and steps to follow which links to other threads that contains good informations as well.. it should be good enough for anyone interested..

lastly..

Thank you for the Work that you guys have shared freely...
Have a Blessed New Year to you all..
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It is really sad to see all the good guys go private....

because of bashing skeptics?..
because of non-building theorist?..
because of closed-minded experts?..
or simply because there are no-one left to communicate with..
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Sounds like something died, no, all the info is here for everyone to read.
The steps the inventors took and they are so far ahead of you and I
that we would only bog them down with our repeats.

Go back and read with faith that you have everything you need and
most of all never give up, never let doubt dominate your posts in some
sort of abandonment stooper.

The mod mtr can be wound with 1 strand or three and I have posted
multiple results for this validation. I am not gone. I will not leave and I
am not a good guy? What?

Wantomake is the best there is here, been at it the longest, tutored
by the inventor himself. What more do you want?

Remember this, action speak louder than words. The inventors have given
away free everything we need to have a working free energy device. I
don't care how grouchy some of them get, they are great souls.

Now once you get your mod mtr wound up with any number of strands
plus other small details that get you thinking radiant mixed with transients
that sends back energy to the run batteries and charge batteries with
huge amounts of mechanical left over, you have the first step.

You have a mod mtr that is a prime mover, spikes the packs gives and
keeps on giving like the inventors who bent over backwards to relate
all of the progress of learning.

Step 2

Either use a battery swapper or use boosters to keep the batteries
balanced out WHEN I REPEAT WHEN STEP #3 is completed.

Step 3

Build a lenz free multistrand series connected Tesla coil generator head
that helps the mod mtr rotate everytime you add one of these coils.

Probable 2 coils and you will have proved that we have all been fed a pack
of lies for generations.

The mod mtr already gives a near 2:1 cop for mechanical rotating
apparatus then as each generator coil is added the the energy generated
also assists the system. Robert Muller showed us how to space out
generator coils so cogging will disappear.

If you follow these steps you will have a cop of 20.
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Just a update on the 3BGS build.

Did finish the (smallest my1016 razor) modified Matt motor rewind. Using 24 awg trifilar connected parallel 100 feet long. 40,30,30 turns on each side of rotor. Ohms across each coil was at .04.

Pulls 0.7 +- amps without load. With generator(larger size mod. Matt motor) attached with couplings, the amp draw is 2.25. Heat is low after extended runs.
The couplings acts as small decent flywheel. A Drok dc to dc converter powers the prime mover to 18~20 volts. Haven't recorded rpm's yet.

All this information to replicate is already posted here and other threads.

I smoked first Drok converter by overcharging #3 and inverter batteries.

Comment please if you are building.
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Aaron,
Sorry I shouldn't have used the term trifilar. It was three wires run parallel and connected together at each end. Trifilar means connected where one wire ends to another that begins. My bad. I followed Matt's videos very closely and got close to the amperage he reported.

Sorry and hope this clears it up. There is only enough room on the rotor for the 100 feet of three wires. Also did the 40,30,30 turns on each side.

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It looks like the rock is finally rolling down the hill. There are a bunch of real stubborn people who best get out of the way. With more and more people building looped systems that they are pulling energy out of, it becomes harder and harder for the critics to explain this away. It has always amused me, and often frustrated me MORE to have working systems running on my bench while people with “experience” explained why my conclusions were wrong and I wasn’t seeing what I was looking right at.

But here’s the thing, and I have been saying this for a long time, but nobody has heard me. Maybe a few will hear me now, and years from now they will remember this. Because just maybe this is the right moment in history: The understanding we gain from WORKING 3 Battery Systems will fundamentally CHANGE our understanding of how electricity works and how we utilize it in our machines. Period By the end of 2018 you will have seen some amazing things.


1. The 3 Battery System requires a PULSE to work. The original diagram John B showed, which is a way to charge batteries that ham radio operators used in the 40’s and 50’s, won’t get you there without that pulse. No matter HOW hard you try.
2. It requires LARGE deep cycle batteries to eliminate as much resistance as possible.
3. It requires LARGE wires as short as possible
4. It requires at least 2.5 volts over the battery voltage and a PULSE to keep the batteries charging properly. So running four six volt batteries in series as your top end and 2 six volt batteries at the bottom DOESNT get you what you want.
5. The generator run by the motor should have coils wound to output 2.5 volts minimum above the batteries in series. Rewind to reduce the voltage to what you need, and increase the amps output.
6. Pull a load on battery three to keep it from charging too fast.
7. The load on the motor should be constant and you balance by adding or subtracting from the load on battery three.
8. If you read the beginning of this thread, I used to say I would add a small load to battery 3 and the motor would speed up (because you are pulling more amps through the motor by adding that load.) Then wait FIVE minutes. If the two are in balance the motor will speed up AGAIN, and that is when you know you are balanced. When the system is NOT balanced, either battery 3 will slowly go down or the primaries will. If battery 3 is going down, your load on it is too big. If the primaries are going down, the load on Battery 3 is too small. One thing you can use as PART of the load on battery 3 is another motor turning a generator controlled by a motor controller or potentiometer with really fine adjustments.
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Old 01-01-2018, 01:06 AM
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Happy new year to dave and family. Plus to all the others that share daves wishes. I am no builder just a disabled wanna be. No understanding of electricity as is a scarey thing so i guess you could call me a lurker but have great respect for serious builders that don't go by what electrical engineers say has to happen. All my best wishes ron
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Happy New Year Ron. There's only 2 hours left in 2017 here on east coast. Not sure what 2018 will reveal. Don't want to be on this forum anymore. Haven't decided yet.

Will see what happens this next year.

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