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Old 10-23-2014, 12:01 AM
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Hi John, I'm sure you know,
When is the best time to rotate, 14.5 ?
When you force 2 fields against each other is that a di-pole?
What's stronger, fields attracting or opposing?
If you let gravity affect a magnetic field ,..does it change the strenght ?
Sorry ,but like to hear your answers.
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Nice to hear from you John.

The thing is your drawing says "Start with Dead battery less than 1.5 volt" David didn't know your were using AA batts. So he found a 12 volt batt that was less than 1.5v.
When he ran it with a motor the 24 v section charged up and kept running for months. He named it the 3 battery generating system after realizing he found something other than was discussed.

I have seen the charging first hand but usually the battery has tendency to fix itself. I watched one run that way for several hours before the system started to consume.

Its funny thing but unfortunately it has no rhyme or reason why some do and some don't.

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Old 10-23-2014, 12:21 AM
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Hi Matt, Does it depend on when you switch, what level?
Interaction occurs within proximity , the closer it is ,the stronger it is.
The level is what we want.
On a side note, would a set of 3 travelers , going through 3 tracks , have you already done this?
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What caused the battery to charge was an energy flip or a magnetic reversal which causes the di-pole to compress and then expand where the energy exceeds the short circuit voltage with a huge spike. This is not Back EMF as back EMF is always lower than the battery voltage. Itís the compression in the magnetic field. When the current is released the gathered radiant surrounding energy in vectors is compressed and released and that energy is much increased in voltage not current. This works like an expanding and contracting balloon. Another analogy is the combustion engine. Think about what I just said to you all.
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For a long time it has been my belief that flipping the magnetic polarity of a battery is what has caused it to produce excess energy on the 3BGS setup.
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It appears that this device is becoming over compcated, this is a simple
device . To answer the question about the 12 volt battery it is charged at 15 volts anything below that the battery is not charged. You must bring the battery
to the end of the charge curve. You need the reserve energy to get the correct
Amp Hrs. In the demnstration I gave with the three battery system the balancing of the voltage is important weither we use 3 volts or 24 volts that is
not important, it's the differnce potential energy to charge the third battery
You must chose the load very carefully for this process to work. The load must run and charge the third battery.
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Old 10-23-2014, 08:09 AM
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John,
I understand what you are saying, and I understand the original intent of the 3 battery system. It was to rotate the three batteries and all three would remain charged. If the load was right.

What I stumbled upon quite by accident was that if you have the right "bad" battery in the third position, something happens, almost as if a gate is opened, and you can run the setup WITHOUT rotating the batteries...battery three increases in voltage, and sometimes even the primaries (batteries one and two) increase in voltage, and the motor runs loads while a load is also across battery three. In over eight years of experimenting with this setup, I have seen that happen several times. The first time it happened, it lasted for several weeks and I thought I was going to be rich. I have seen it last for days. I have seen it last for hours. Then suddenly it stops happening and the primaries begin to discharge. On two occasions when it was "working" I disconnected all the connections on the batteries and discovered that battery 3 had flipped polarity. It is possible that this is what has happened EVERY time it has been "working".

Several other folks have replicated this setup WITHOUT rotating the batteries and seen the same thing, although from the reports I have gotten the best anyone has had was a run of a couple days before it quit working. What we HOPED to find was a consistent method of getting a battery in the third position to achieve whatever state it needs to be in for this "gate" to open. We have not been able to do that yet.

As I said, I think it is about getting battery 3 to flip its magnetic polarity, not its electrical polarity, although I believe it flips its electrical polarity at the same time. But just because it flips its electrical polarity doesn't mean it has flipped its magnetic polarity.

So at least what I have been working on is not the same as the original intent of the circuit you were demonstrating, because I was NOT rotating the batteries. I realize that may just confuse folks, but I wanted to be sure that the difference between the two experiments is clear, even though the circuit is exactly the same.

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Dave, Matt,
I do understand what youíre both saying. Iím just trying to give a little history on the three battery system. The lead acid battery is much different in its makeup as if you study the battery you will find that three currents take place in that battery to move things along. I cannot get into the currents here as it would take forever to explain it. I also have seen batteries develop a semi magnetic fields; this experiment will show that the lead acid battery can be quickly charged with the use of powerful magnets in alignment across the plates. I think you guys are doing great work and Iím not here to interfere with your progress. Peter told me about this and I said I would go look and read everything.
At a different point in time I will discuss what the coil is and how quantum mechanics plays an important part in all of this and how you get the extra energy out of the system. I did write a paper for University of Edinburgh along with Dave Clemons that explained the way the coil works in the system as an energy pump and how the SSG in attraction mode works. This is why I said, the Back EMF is always lower than the battery voltage. If you look at the coil in space it can be viewed with vectors all pointing in but not coupled to form energy. As the coil is pulsed compression and decompression takes place these vectors get sucked in through the Bloch Wall while it is in compression mode forming magnetic poles, North and South. This was never released to the public as it would drive everybody nuts. The Engineers at the school answered me with; we never looked at it this way. But the analyses were correct and explained why some machines work better in different areas of this God forsaken planet. Yes Gravity plays an important part in all of this. Itís only a matter of time when you will tap that Gravity wave for energy as that is where my experiments have led me in my work. I know you will read this many times to understand what I have just said and you all know the meaning of this if you do it. If we take this further you now have discovered the answer to the TPU. Some say that the Shaman resonance is responsible for this but the energy is driven by gravity that permeates everything throughout space itís just a matter how itís taped for energy. Solid state devices detect this wave if arranged correctly and then the TPU becomes not complicated anymore with windings and high frequencyís oscillators that is what powered Teslaís car, the box with many vacuum tubes, so again the term Free Energy is wrong as you must put some form of energy in to start the process of conversion and hope you get more out.
Just remember that the energy cannot be destroyed it can only be converted into another form, for example the last version of the SSG. The unit converts the spikes and then filters it to be used with a Linear Amplifier Regulator. Just something to think about, so keep up your good work at least your group is getting somewhere here with this type of system. Good work all. Iím honored that you all would mention my early work, so thank you all.
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Old 10-23-2014, 11:34 PM
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Hi John, Is the battery constructed to hold charge in levels, or in even flow from top to bottom???
I just use dead bats ,It's like batteries go through stages, It's like something is giving them a kidney punch?
Is it like a high rise building , where it takes all the charge off the top then works its' way down, or does it take from all levels' evenly?
This is part of what I need to figure out.
Just ramblin, Thanks for your time
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Old 10-24-2014, 01:08 AM
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Here is a question for those of you replicating the 3BGS setup. When you put your meter on battery 3, what exactly is it you are measuring. In MOST cases your initial reading will be 24+ volts, so obviously you are NOT measuring the voltage in battery 3 itself. If you have the RIGHT bad battery, and you leave it all connected, the voltage will go slowly down to around 18 volts, and then your 12 volt motor will begin to run. SO NOW what are you measuring? The first time I ever set up the 3BGS, my battery measured 24+ volts, went down to 18 volts (which took about 15 minutes) and would continue to go down in voltage to about 9 volts, then the motor would shut off, the voltage would immediately jump to 24+ volts again, and the cycle would repeat over and over and over again. To keep it from shutting off, I connected loads to battery 3. I first hooked up 12 volt lights and small 12 volt motors, then I used an inverter and hooked up all kinds of appliances. Drills, my shop vac, a lampÖanything I could find. I had to balance these loads by increasing the load on the motor, or the system would kick off because of the inverter drawing too many amps with too many appliances hooked up at once. But I ask again, what is it we are measuring when we put a meter on battery 3 in this setup.

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The cells should pull all even unless all the lead is used up on the plates.
Bad batteries are usually sulphated and no movement in ions or electrons
Can take place. Pulsing the battery or high energy spikes remove the
Sulphated crystals providing that cells have no shorts. Only this type of lead cell
Can be restored to about 85% Batteries with shorted cells will not work
With this process unless you clean the built up lead in the bottom of the
Battery. The only other thing is shorted insulators then nothing can be done. Best to watch the process with good batteries.
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Old 10-26-2014, 09:36 PM
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Sorry John

You misunderstood my question, My fault for not explaining better.
A single battery dead or alive , when you draw a load off of it, ...does that battery drain from all cells evenly , but from the top of the cells, or evenly throughout the height of the cell? Or maybe the bottom?
Thank-you for taking the time.
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The other day on another forum someone posted that all we were seeing here is a reactivation of a battery that appears be dead, but when we break the sulfation loose with high voltage spikes the battery suddenly returns to its former fully charged state, and that's where we are getting our "free energy" from. That the 3BGS is BS. This was brought to my attention, and I said at the time that I couldn't be bothered to respond to what some idiot posted. But then I thought about it for a while and I realized that unless this thing is kept alive, there will be no bright young minds looking into it who some day figure it out, and that would be a shame. So I decided NOT to let it slide.

I have restored dozens of batteries to working condition using the 3BGs, so I am well aware that batteries can be brought back to life from a sulfated condition. That is one of the pain in the butt aspects of this thing. It restores batteries I want to stay bad, because when they were 'bad" I was getting excess energy. I have said that many, many times if you bother to read through the thread.

Over 20 people who have replicated the 3BGS over the years have gotten their 3 batteries to run loads that have exceeded the available amp hours of their batteries by several times and at the end of such runs, in MANY cases, the batteries were still fully charged. In some cases the primaries had gone down, but they had still exceeded the energy available by several times. In a few cases, the loads which should have exhausted that available energy in a matter of hours ran for as long as three weeks. Then it quit for no reason. In over eight years of testing I have had such runs myself on a several occasions. I have put eight years into this, and I have a pretty good idea of how long a 7.5 amp hour battery will will run an inverter with a 100 watt bulb attached. Unless you see this for yourself, I do not expect you to believe it, which is why I began this thread in the first place. Having serious doubts is your right. You are absolutely right to be skeptical. But until you do the research and spend the time necessary to thoroughly debunk this project, I find it reprehensible that you would go on another forum and make such comments behind my back. You have no honor.

In the interest of honesty I should also disclose that MANY people have seen absolutely nothing when they put together this setup. But in those cases I have to wonder if they followed the step by step directions in Post #1 and got the RIGHT dead battery. If they didn't, I wouldn't EXPECT them to get any results.
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Just watch Skeptic Test 1-5 or so to see a 3BGS setup that happens to be working at the time I was doing some filming. They don't ALWAYS work like that, but sometimes you get some pretty amazing stuff out of the 3BGS. And sometimes you don't. It is for real, but it is NOT consistent or dependable. I have put scopes and meters on it, and I have measured inputs and outputs. If people choose NOT to believe it, that's ok by me. I know what I know.

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I read that also. I agree with you. When you see it in front of you, then the evidence will change you in many ways. Until these doubters see it and know it, there will be no change.

We must be examples for the next generation.

Thanks for being a good one Dave,
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Hi Everyone,

Just thought I should put a post up.

I've been speaking to Dave and informing him of my test setup and bad battery, turns out I may have a really, really good bad battery!

I need to do some more tests which I will do in the next day or two.

I can say that everything that has been talked about I have seen, the motor not starting instantly, the motor suddenly speeding up after adding loads onto the 3rd battery.

In the next day or so I will do some proper testing and come back with my findings.
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I mentioned a couple posts ago about the series of videos I did when the system was working one time, but I forgot to post the link here. There are like 9 or 10 videos, and I did them for a couple friends of mine that have been working on the 3BGS for a few years right along with me, so they aren't really meant for the public. They were not intended to PROVE anything to anybody because the people who they were made for already BELIEVE, since they have seen similar results on their OWN bench. They were just to document what I had going on. But I thought they might be of some interest to folks here. The one thing I constantly hear is that the voltage readings I am getting are just a "fluff" charge on my batteries, and not real. But when you have (as I have) run loads that exceed the rated amp hour capacity of your batteries by 9 or 10 times, you really don't CARE if it is a "fluff" charge reading or not. As long as you are getting 10 times as much as you should out of the battery, who CARES what the meter says. And since I have been doing this for over 8 years now, I have a fairly GOOD idea of how long a particular battery will run a stock Razor Scooter motor and a load before that battery is "empty". Anyway, here is the first of the videos, which will get you to my YouTube channel and you can find the other eight or nine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlHYBtbQ2m0

battman, thanks for posting here. It is people like you who will keep this thread alive until SOMEONE figures this thing out. The one important thing this has reinforced for me is that if you want to find a battery that will work for you in the third position, you need to find a battery that will take a charge, but NOT HOLD IT. If you look at my VERY FIRST post you will see that in my description of the bad battery I used on my VERY FIRST setup I stated that it would take a charge, but not hold it. I didn't realize how important that was at the time, and it was YEARS before I came to understand that it is CRITICAL to seeing the kind of results I want you to see that you have a battery like that in the 3rd position. Without it, you will NOT get the kind of results that are possible. In fact, I am going back right now to edit that first post to make that abundantly clear to everyone!
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Well today I was running the 3bgs , I had 2 dead batteries paralleled so I could have more capacity.
I ran the grounds which are all tied together, through some ground rods.
My dead batteries were at 4.4vdc, my primaries were at 26vdc.
After 2 hours of run time my primaries are at 26.3vdc , my dead bats are at 12.6vdc.
I was running Matts new motor between the positives of the primaries and the positive of the dead batteries.
I ran this before but I didn't use ground rods, and the primaries lost.
This weekend should prove interesting.
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When I lived in San Jose and worked on the 3BGS in my basement, I would attach the ground to the copper water pipe and get extended run times, but I never got an increase in the primaries. Thanks for posting that though. Maybe you have a better ground than I had. Ossie Callanan has said we need a bunch of dead batteries for HIS free energy device and others are working on extracting energy from the ground. Maybe you have found the simple answer. You said "through some ground rods" How many ground rods, what distance apart, what size, what length, what configuration?

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Hi Dave , I just had 2 pieces of 1/2in copper pipe, I lined them up with magnetic north (I've heard to do that figured it can't hurt). I spaced them ~6ft apart ,the north pipe is ~3ft deep and the south is~2ft deep.
When I first hooked it up as usual the primaries were dropping and the dead batts climbing no motor action, The primaries went down to 22.4 the dead up to 12.01 ,motor started ran for ~2 hours started getting dark so I shut down for the night.
I just checked this morning primaries 25.7, dead 12.16 will be doing tests this weekend.
Btw I connected the north rod to the ground of the primaries and the south to the dead batts. I know that sounds like a short but will test without the rods connected.
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I did a setup last night with two dead batteries in parallel and a single ground rod of copper coated steel ( A standard electrical grounding rod) pounded in two feet deep and connected to the negatives of the two dead batteries in parallel and by extension the negative of one of the two primaries that had it's negative connected to the negative of the dead batteries. I did not connect to the negative of the other primary, and I did not use two grounding rods, because I hadn't seen your post yet, so didn't know your configuration. I ran it from 8:45 until 3:30 in the morning, pulling about .4 amps according to my meter. ( stock motor, unloaded.)

Bad batt 1 4.76 after almost 7 hour run 12.26
Bad batt 2 .64 after almost 7 hour run 11.78

Primary 1 12.66 after almost 7 hour run 12.36
Primary 2 12.53 after almost 7 hour run 12.19

After two hour rest, primaries were still not back up to what they had been at the beginning. They are on the charger now. I will put in a second grounding rod and try again once they have been charged back up. Just to be clear, BOTH of your primaries had negative connected to the north rod and Both of your dead batteries had negative connected to the south rod. Correct?

According to your data, your primaries started at a combined 26 volts
Climbed to 26.3 after a two hour run
Were at 25.6 this morning after resting all night.

I know from experience that you will get one reading on the primaries when they are "running" a different reading when they are "off" and a third reading if you disconnect everything and read each primary separately. If we are to compare data accurately, we need to establish a constant for the way we take readings. I believe the best way is to disconnect the batteries so that they are standing alone and read them that way. (And individually rather than in series, because it also gives us information on which primary drops the most in voltage or GAINS the most in voltage.) From now on, that is the way they will be when I take my readings. This means no readings will be shared that were taken while the thing is running. Those readings are for my information only. Hope that works for you. It is a bit of a pain in the butt, but I want to make sure data is consistent and not open to any misinterpretation. A few tenths of a volt here or there is the difference between a circuit that works and one that doesn't.

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Hi Dave, I had the ground rods connected with only the one ground of the primaries and both grounds of the dead ones. The ground of the primaries at 24 volt connection, I did later try at the 12 volt connection.
Anyway the next day I drained the now charged dead batts , repeated the exact same set-up ,the dead batts charged up faster but the primaries didn't drop as far but didn't climb like the night before.
Could it be in the first run the dead batts had sat for over 6 months?
Also Friday night when I first connected and ran it was raining, Sat it was sunny and hot.
Well back to the drawing board currently running a motor off the dead batts which is turning a gen but when I connect the gen back into the dead batts things get real hot real fast.
Tried to hook the gen directly to Matts motor but I can't get them lined up too much vibration.
Lots of ideas yet.
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3BGS plus a boost...

I had a thought a while back about the fact that the motor seems to increase the voltage coming from the two batteries in series before it gets to the 3rd battery, which is part of what allows the 3rd battery to charge. With that in mind, I asked Matt if there wasn't a way we could boost the voltage coming out of the motor to REALLY charge battery 3, and he came up with a circuit which I have been playing around with for a while now. I get different results depending on the "Boost Module" I am using and the voltage that hits battery 3. I have two batteries in parallel as my 3rd battery and two primaries in series. The goal for me has been to
1. Run a motor
2. Turn a generator
3. Use generated voltage to power a small load
4. Keep the primaries from discharging too far down
5. Charge the secondary (parallel) batteries quickly

I did a number of runs prior to my trip to Arizona, and now that I am back, I intend to do many, many more. What I am seeing is that I can get increases in my charge batteries that are far greater than the losses in my primary batteries while still running a motor as generator and powering a small load.

The simple boost module I am using is here: 150W DC DC Boost Converter 10 32V to 12 35V 6A Step Up Voltage Charger Power | eBay

A video of the setup I am running is here:
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My latest test results for a 30 minute run are as follows.

The two primary batteries in series:
Battery One start voltage 12.59 end 12.56 (after two hour rest)
Battery Two start voltage 12.54 end 12.50 (after two hour rest)

The two batteries in parallel
Battery Three start voltage 12.39 end 12.57 (after two hour rest)
Battery Four start voltage 12.48 end 12.58 (after two hour rest)

The idea would be to then flip the two batteries in series with the two batteries in parallel and continue to use the motor to run a generator powering a load.

I will also post this info on the Basic Free Energy Device thread, as using the 3BGS type setup is critical, I believe, to building a Basic Free Energy Device.

I should mention that I also have been trying a boost module with a higher voltage output, and have had different test results depending on the output voltage of the boost module. Some MORE successful than the results I posted here, which did show a drop in the primaries But hey, results are results. We learn from our successes AND from our failures.
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Hi Dave ,I just ordered a couple of those boost converters.
Was that meter reading what was going into your bulb?
Also you have one motor driving the other as a gen right? Not to be picky but they sounded kinda ruff not lined up so good or is it something else?
I'll be trying my new wind this weekend with the 3BGS, I posted about it in Carrolls' thread.
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Yeah, one of the motors is REAL rough...as in burnt up. I smoked it trying to turn my big generator with it, plus there were definitely some alignment problems also. And at this point I don't remember if it is the drive motor or the generator motor that has issues, so I will have to pull it apart to see. Yes, the meter was reading what was going straight out of the motor into the bulb without a full wave bridge or anything in between.

I'm going to put together a motor setup of a couple good motors here in a few days, and I bought a bunch of 400 amp hour 6 volt deep cycle batteries, so I can do some serious testing of the potential of this setup. I've has some test runs where the primaries did not drop at all....or only like .01 during a 30 minute run. I don't mind if they drop SOME, as long as the gains to the two batteries in parallel are higher than the losses of the two batteries in series. I bought a battery analyzer to measure capacitance, to make sure that when I get readings, they reflect what is really going on with the batteries and not fluff charges.

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Hi Dave been testing , and trying many configurations, The 3BGS definitely gives longer runs.
I tried putting the output from the collector brushes into,.. 1st the back primary,then the front primary, and last the charge battery.
By putting the collectors into the back primary, I get gain across the board.
The other two scienarios showed loss.
I then added a flywheel to the motor and the gains were the same.
This was just a motor running, I will add a generator in place of the flywheel.
The motor basically runs on nothing, I did a whole day of runs , add up the voltages of the 3 batteries , I'm seeing a gain, and that's after an 1 hour rest.
artv
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We need to be using three sets of batteries. A set of two primaries in series, a set of two charging batteries in parallel, and a third set of batteries that have been charged up and are resting before being moved into the primary position So six batteries in all.

I am seeing little or no loss with the boost circuit. Starting some seriously long testing runs in the next couple days. Expecting two new razor scooter motors in the mail tomorrow.

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Long term runs, minor losses to primaries, higher gains to charge batteries. Switching positions of batteries between each of several LONG runs shows net gains on ALL batteries. Basically the motor runs the generator "for free" . Period.

It boils down to what is the best generator to attach to the motor. Matt has things in the works, and there is the Mr. Angus Wangus videos to consider.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOsy2TvOIjw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ED7_O5D4Eww

The only concern now is whether this circuit causes long term harm to the batteries...shortens their usable life span. Only time will tell.
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The End

Rick Frederick just released this amazing information for all the world to see....how to run motors without having to pay to do it.

https://youtu.be/SE-AiC9yiFc

If you have ever built the 3BGS or any of the other circuits we have shown on this thread for the last four or five years, you will see that there may be some....similarities. Possibly. Maybe. I think I first posted about running motors this way about 8 years ago.

Now since then a lot has changed. We understand how to take the power that is produced and use it many ways before you dump it into a storage device so it can run external loads. Rick says you can use it two or three times. I have to agree. The boost circuit lets us run motors on higher voltage at low amps, and produce even HIGHER voltage with the coil collapse. The trick is knowing what to do with all that high voltage to turn it into usable energy and to run loads or generate power. I haven't seen Rick's stuff firsthand, but I do know people who have his motor and it is not a self runner, so I'm not quite sure what he has. I do know what the POTENTIAL is.

I wanted to post this here as kind of a parting tribute to the 3BGS, because the exploration of that particular basic circuit has probably outlived it's usefulness. What we have learned will be taken to our work on the "Basic Free Energy Device" thread, and we will leave this one to gather dust. Adios folks. It's been fun, but unless I accidentally replicate my original discovery and somehow figure out how to maintain that "bad battery" as a negative resistor, I doubt I will ever post on this particular thread again.

Dave
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One thing that I have always admired about you - is your ability to separate alternative energy ideas from personalities or controversy. I mention this because what you have posted here is a very mixed message series of shares.

Much of the alternative energy content that was shared in the YouTube you noted, was discovered and shared by many AE notables prior to this. So this specific effort should be observed just as a drumbeat reminder as to fundamentals that show AE promise. We should be very careful in assigning more credit to it then that.

These are what I do believe to be AE stepping stones. But each of us still need to help write the final chapter to practical devices, while never forgetting the work and the inventors that have gone before us. That is the spirit, that will likely advance us all.
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While watching that vid, I immediately thought of JB then you and came here to see what's what...
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Rick Frederick just released this amazing information for all the world to see....how to run motors without having to pay to do it.

https://youtu.be/SE-AiC9yiFc

If you have ever built the 3BGS or any of the other circuits we have shown on this thread for the last four or five years, you will see that there may be some....similarities. Possibly. Maybe. I think I first posted about running motors this way about 8 years ago.

Now since then a lot has changed. We understand how to take the power that is produced and use it many ways before you dump it into a storage device so it can run external loads. Rick says you can use it two or three times. I have to agree. The boost circuit lets us run motors on higher voltage at low amps, and produce even HIGHER voltage with the coil collapse. The trick is knowing what to do with all that high voltage to turn it into usable energy and to run loads or generate power. I haven't seen Rick's stuff firsthand, but I do know people who have his motor and it is not a self runner, so I'm not quite sure what he has. I do know what the POTENTIAL is.

I wanted to post this here as kind of a parting tribute to the 3BGS, because the exploration of that particular basic circuit has probably outlived it's usefulness. What we have learned will be taken to our work on the "Basic Free Energy Device" thread, and we will leave this one to gather dust. Adios folks. It's been fun, but unless I accidentally replicate my original discovery and somehow figure out how to maintain that "bad battery" as a negative resistor, I doubt I will ever post on this particular thread again.

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