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Old 01-18-2012, 06:31 PM
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Arrow Bi-toroid Transformer of Thane C. Heins

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MIT Dr. Zahn Bi-Toroid Transformer (BITT) Tutorial 101.mov - YouTube

A prototype of this Bi-Toroid Transformer was third party tested by Dr. Giovanni Fusina of Defence Research and Development Canada showing it operating at 2300% efficiency.

EFFICIENCY PERFORMANCE VIDEO: ThaneCHeins's Channel - YouTube

Send an email to thane_heins@yahoo.ca for a copy of the performance data.

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You can compare this device to Alexander Kugushov's Transformer
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@Thane,

Thanks for sponsering this thread here at Energetic Forum. Our Joulethief thread has drifted off topic to include your BITT transformer. Many of us have encountered difficulties with the Overunity power elite, most notably John Bedini along with myself. I want to welcome you here in behalf of our contributors.
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Xee2 inverter circiut.

@Thane,

Do you think this simple "Xee2" inverter circuit can generate a pure enough A.C. sine wave to power your Bi-Toroid transformer?


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Old 01-18-2012, 07:24 PM
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Modified BiTT Proposed by Vidbid



The primary is connected to an AC source.

The secondary and tertiary coils should have loads on them.

See videos on making Magnetite cores

Dr. Peter Lindemann Speaks on Magnetite Core Material - YouTube

Magnetite Cores - YouTube

Magnitite Cores 2 - YouTube

Make the Magnetite core with two part epoxy.

Magnetite is powered black iron oxide or Fe3O4
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Old 01-18-2012, 08:41 PM
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BiTT - Vidbid Modification Mark II



BiTT - Vidbid Modification Mark II

Added two quaternary coils.
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If you are going to try to use magnetite, BE SURE TO USE LARGE MAGNETS. If you don't, your core will not give rise to much mutual induction between the windings. Now, for clarifying purposes, I am not sure how it will behave as a transformer material if you DO use big enough magnets, but I have personally experimented with magnetite cores and didn't have good results due to the "curing magnets" not being appropriately sized to the core. There is a possibility that magnetite would work, but if you are trying to build a core of any usable size, you will need neodymium magnets that will more than likely frighten you to handle and cost more than you're willing to spend. I believe that Peter Lindemann said that the height of both magnets together has to equal the height of the magnetite domain that you are aligning. Anything else will yield poor results.

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Where do you see magnets in any of Thane's transformer schematics?
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Where do you see magnets in any of Thane's transformer schematics?
I don't. I apologize for the ambiguity of my post.

In the caption of Vidbid's drawing, it says that the cores can be made from magnetite. He references Peter Lindemann's "Magnetite Core Material". In Dr. Lindemann's lecture, he states that when curing magnetite one must use "curing magnets" to align the domains of the magnetite particles. I was simply talking about constructing cores from magnetite. It has nothing to do with Thane's observations, but more of a beware to Vidbid for thinking of using magnetite for his proposed core design.

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Old 01-18-2012, 11:11 PM
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Arrow Mark III Generator

Thanks for the warning. I like Magnetite because it's cheap and you can mold it into any shape you want. Just build a form.

To incorporate a magnet in the design, I propose the Mark III Generator.



Best of luck replicating.

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Thanks for starting this thread and posting links to the videos on making the cores. I think your transformer concept is straight forward and makes good sense. I have been looking at this for a while and now that I know a good way to make cores I guess I can get started trying to replicate.
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Black Iron Oxide As Core Material



At present, black iron oxide powder seems to be cheap (20 lbs for $20), but that could change if demand for it increases.

I found it on ebay. 20 lb Black Iron Oxide - Fe3O4 - Used in thermite | eBay
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I wasn't saying put a magnet inside of the transformer, but if that design sparks your interest, go for it.

Just to make sure that we are clear on what I was conveying. See http://www.energeticforum.com/attach...7-17.30.44.jpg. Notice how I have curing magnets outside of the mold. These magnets are relatively large Neo's. However, they were still too small to align the magnetite domains to get a transformer effect (good mutual inductance between coils). Peter says the curing magnets must be as tall as that mold of magnetite resin that I have in the picture. Clearly, my magnets are underrated for the task. Therefore, magnetite was a poor option for my core and will be for you too if you don't use LARGE curing magnets. I have no idea how you would cure both the vertical and horizontal axises at the same time. Good Luck!

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We need to figure out how to do this using spools so we can wind beforehand, good thread I like the concept.
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If we could do this with coils in place we could run current through them and alien the magnetite this way.
Something to think about.
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I wasn't saying put a magnet inside of the transformer, but if that design sparks your interest, go for it.

Just to make sure that we are clear on what I was conveying. See http://www.energeticforum.com/attach...7-17.30.44.jpg. Notice how I have curing magnets outside of the mold. These magnets are relatively large Neo's. However, they were still too small to align the magnetite domains to get a transformer effect (good mutual inductance between coils). Peter says the curing magnets must be as tall as that mold of magnetite resin that I have in the picture. Clearly, my magnets are underrated for the task. Therefore, magnetite was a poor option for my core and will be for you too if you don't use LARGE curing magnets. I have no idea how you would cure both the vertical and horizontal axises at the same time. Good Luck!

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Well, that is interesting. Something to think about.

I think Thane just uses laminated steel cores.
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Core Material

Has anybody tried to build a core made with PVC pipes filled with ferrofluid, but more importantly, would it work? I wonder.

It would be interesting to see.
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Check out Thane's patent.
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I was looking on some other forums and found this design.

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I found this design at Thane Heins BI-TOROID TRANSFORMER
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Did anyone replicated the bi-toroid transformer and have a movie to post it here with the replication ? If yes how much power could he/she draw from the transformer ?
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ThaneCHeins's Channel - YouTube

A real world test!

Looks like a little green meany from the old beatles "yellow submarine" movie.

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Magnetite Cores?

Has anyone considered magnetite cores with the Thane C. Heins Perpetia generator? in place of steel? Is anyone else working on replicating that project?

Sorry to ask so many questions...
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Has anyone considered magnetite cores with the Thane C. Heins Perpetia generator? in place of steel?
I suggest he work on making a generator using the concepts from the BiTT.
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BiTT Power Factor Video by a Replicator

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Interesting video on BiTT power factor
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@Vidbid,

Does the BITT primary return BEMF to the power source?
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Does the BITT primary return BEMF to the power source?

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Does the BITT primary return BEMF to the power source?
Good question. I do know that his power source is an AC supply.* If I'm not mistaken, after watching one of his videos, and I'm not sure which one it was, so I guess you might have to watch them all to find this reference, but I seem to remember that he indicated that the secondaries don't return counter induced voltage flux paths to the primary as per the purpose of the outer legs.

They follow the outer legs to their corresponding secondaries and are additive to those secondaries. I read somewhere that neither do they cancel each other out in the outer legs (as one might expect opposing emfs to do) but merely pass each other by like ships passing in the night.

Woopyjump shows in bitt power factor 3 .wmv - YouTube what happens when you disconnect one of the loads from the system. Interesting video.

*Bob Teal used DC to power his induction coil and then used the counter emf spike to drive a secondary load. See Dr Peter Lindemann's Electric Motor Secrets.

*Also, check out Op-Amps, PWM and Ignition Coils Tutorial (Part 3/3) - YouTube for info on v = L(di/dt)

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yes, the way he explains it, the bemfs only pass or complimnt each other... because the flux path is larger between secondaries and it take path of least reluctance... much like electrical resistance, but magnetically..
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The Canadian patent office issues patents for transformer efficiency above 100%.look at the first part of the patent.

Interesting, doubt you will see that on a US patent any time soon.

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