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Lightbulb Walter Russell - Understanding and applying his work

I would like this thread to be dedicated to understanding and applying Walter Russell's work.

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Lightbulb Short Intro

Others have already done a good job of posting his work on here, including MonsieurM, whom I think I have to thank for introducing me to his work in the first place.

Also, there are other philosophy sites which have discussions about him, so would like to make this as practical as possible.

For those new to his work, I strongly recommend reading the book "The Universal One"
I have been reading it recently, and have also started reading "New concept of the universe", and also plan on reading "Atomic suicide"

In his book, he describes how everything, matter, light, mind, God, is one.
So you could call it a unified field theory.
Also he has his own periodic chart of elements that fits perfectly onto a spiraling wave.

I do realize that this description is probably inadequate, and hope, if nothing else, that you will not judge his work from what I'm saying, but rather, check for yourself.

Please do PM or message me if you would like to update this short intro.
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Hi StweenyA I would like to take the opportunity to post this link,Fist Fights With Physicists - The Caduceus Coil, Helical Flow and the Evidence for Free Energy ☀ - YouTube And its associated video It certainly does reference Walter Russell and a deal more of those special people that seemed to have that “special sense” and could effectively use sympathetic vibration Fist Fights With Physicists - The Caduceus Coil and of course that peculiar spiral
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If you want to grasp fully Walter Russell's work...Start by decoding his table of Elements... ...angles, flow, positions etc...

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May I also recommend The Secret Of Light and The Divine Iliad, some of which is quoted in TSOL.
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Thanks for starting this thread!

I would quote Walter Russell with my first realisation of his truths: the difference between information and KNOWLEDGE. I always was wondering how can we humans progress with only what we have been thought in schools. As humans, we tend to forget, omit. In time what we consider knowledge is destined to be lost with the pass of every generation.

My only interference in his own following words are between square brackets and are meant for clarification only.

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Teachers can never teach you to be a poet, musician, artist, inventor, or creator of anything.
God is the only one who can teach you to create .
A teacher can tell you how to give a material body to your concept, but only God can give you your inspired concept.
In other words, a teacher can give you a technique for expressing your idea, but he cannot become your Soul from which your concept extends.
If the teacher can reinspire you with his inspiration, that inspiration of his, reflected in you, awakens the sleeping genius which is within you, but no one can teach you that.

Remember, however, that technical information [books, manuals, patents, information passed by teachers, friends, etc.] is not knowledge. Knowledge is of the Soul.

... an electric machine can remember information recorded upon it electrically , and it can repeat it countless times with accuracy. The electric machine is sensed (wired) for that purpose. It is a body without a Soul.
Many humans are but electric machines which remember and repeat information recorded upon their senses. That means that God-awareness in them has not yet been awakened.
That is what we mean by saying that teachers can give you techniques but only God can awaken the Light of cosmic inspiration in you [Light of knowledge].
Thank you again for opening this thread and I'm looking forward to read anyone's inspired words, or quotations.

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Beautiful quote...and exactly embodies this discussion...thank you barbosi
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a little contribution for the practical aspect of this discussion...

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If you want to make a Russell/Bashar Coil I would Suggest using Iron and Copper..and a Cobalt nested in the center.



ps: for the cobalt silicate try egg shaped

ps: Cobalt infused quartz also exist
something resembling this:

Principle of correspondence:




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this comes from an interesting article

KeelyNet: Joel McClain: Measurement of Resonant frequencies and Harmonics | MERLib.org

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Thanks to information supplied by Gerald O'Doucharty, as compared with waveform analyses as determined by the late Mr. Les Brown, we can begin to make some progress in the understanding of resonance. I believe that these conclusions are in accordance with the discoveries of both Walter Russell, in his resonance based chart of the elements, as well as those of John Keely.

Les Brown dropped a pebble in a bowl of water, and measured the rings which resulted. From this, he was able to determine the mathematical relationships, which he found to be factors of PI. There is no random pattern to the rings.

The first ring is equal to the diameter of the pebble. The second ring is equal to the diameter of the first ring, times the cube root of PI, or 1.3313. The third ring is equal to the second ring, also times 1.3313. Each ring is a NATURAL HARMONIC of the previous ring. Comparing this with the information supplied by Gerald, we can see that in the diatonic scale, the following relationships exist:

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Note Frequency (Hz) 1st Harmonic (UPPER ORDER)

C 262 F 349.33 Hz
D 294.75 G 393.00
F 349.33 A' 465.06
G 393.80 C 524 (262 X 2)
A 436.66 D 581.33 (294.75 X 2)
C' 524 F 698.66 (349.33 X 2)

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E 327.50 A 436.66
B 491.25 E 654.00 (327.50 X 2)

Energies, including radio waves, propagate according to the same ratios, based upon the cube root of PI. To an energy researcher, this means:

1. Energies are based upon the atomic model. Therefore, the rings which surround each atom are based upon the size of the nucleus (pebble), and this is the base frequency of the atom. Each ring diameter will be determined by the cube root of PI, times the nucleus, and then times each ring in succession.

2. Once you find the resonant frequency of the nucleus, to resonate the atom, you will need to determine the number of rings, and apply the correct number of harmonics at the correct frequency. This is true for an element, whereas compounds will require each of the fundamental frequencies, plus the harmonics.

Let's say, for example, that a hydrogen nucleus resonates at G, or 393 Hz.

To resonate the aggregate hydrogen atom, you must apply G as well as C, the first harmonic, or 524 Hz. If oxygen has a fundamental frequency of A, or 436 Hz, then you must also apply D, or 589.5 Hz.

To resonate water, you would apply 393, 436, 524, and 589.5. However, this may not be a "hard and fast" rule, because we know that the highest frequency will contain all of the lower frequencies at harmonic intervals, but at lower amplitude.

Therefore, if a single resonating frequency is used, it will have to be of high enough amplitude so that the harmonics are "felt" by the element or compound.

The frequencies in the above example are based upon the arbitrary values assigned in 1939, because they "sound" the best. However, the multiplier of the cube root of PI is a constant. So, when you find the fundamental frequency of an atom, you can apply this constant to resonate the aggregate mass, including the rings.

Just multiply the constant times the fundamental freq for the first ring, and multiply the constant times the first ring for the second ring, etc. As Gerald pointed out, there are inconsistencies in the man-made chart, so experimentation is required. However, Les Brown's constant will apply regardless, ONCE THE FUNDAMENTAL FREQUENCY has been determined.

Referring to Russell's chart of the elements, we find that the number of elements per octave corresponds to the number of whole notes per octave on the diatonic scale. Isotopes consist of semi-notes and harmonics. As such, once we begin to analyze elements, we can quantify Russell's chart, and determine the exact combination of frequencies for each element, isotope and inert gas.

Russell obviously knew these correlations, or he would not have been able to create the chart in the first place. We have to "reverse engineer" the chart to determine the frequencies. Using the cube root of PI, combined with experimentation, I believe that that is possible to do.
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Go to this page for a little selection of Walter Russel's periodic tables courtesy of Esa Ruoho

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Thanks everyone for posting!

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If you want to grasp fully Walter Russell's work...Start by decoding his table of Elements... ...angles, flow, positions etc...
Agreed. I'm still getting familiar with it, but I think it would be brilliant if we could somehow simulate it to see how everything fits in, and then use that to take it even further, to possibly even make new discoveries.

Duncan, thanks, will check the video later when my internet is faster.
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MonsieurM,

The info you posted above was great. I had never seen that explanation before.

The question I have now is, how do we find the fundamental frequency of any particular element? I would imagine that once we find one, the others will be easier to find.

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The following quote I shall keep it as a memo to myself. It shall act as an impulse and a RESET button.

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something that might interest hho experimenteers.

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@electronicsounds, that's very interesting. I recall seeing it the other day as well....

In his book "New Concept of the Universe", he describes a setup for converting water into other elements, not just the elements we think are in water (H2O), but other elements too, like Nitrogen for example.

The explanation would lie in his periodic chart.... I'm still trying to understand this...

What I was thinking, is, did Stanley Meyer's fuel cell heat the water? What was the resonance doing? If so, then it seems to be the same thing as WR, who heated the water before applying the EM fields.

I would like to hear all your thoughts on this.
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good to read you Haan

you should check out some post here The Brain is an Advanced Fractal Antenna

they may bring you some insight , they did for me
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I have read the The Secret Of Light and The Divine Iliad and admit that I do not understand either.
I don't think it's so much the content, but the language It takes me about 5 minutes of reading and re-reading to get through 2 or 3 lines There's also some videos on youtube of people reading the whole (TSOL) book, not the most exciting thing to listen to but I found I understood things when listening to it a lot easier then when I first read it, or maybe because I had read it first.

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Walter Russell is someone who has inspired much of my research. I noticed that there isn't links to Atomic Suicide? or the HSC in this thread so I will link to them.

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I intend on coming back to this thread when I have a bit more time to give some of my insight into Russell & Schauberger whose science is more or less the same with different terminology thrown in here and there from what I can tell. In the meantime I think it's important that people post things that they are stuck on. I don't claim to be an expert on this cosmogony but I believe I could help those just getting started plus if everyone puts their heads together we can get somewhere with this.

EDIT: I think those new to this work should start on Atomic Suicide? or A New Concept of the Universe. The Universal One is good butit is older, Atomic Suicide? and A New Concept of the Universe are newer with better understandings in it.

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I don't think it's so much the content, but the language It takes me about 5 minutes of reading and re-reading to get through 2 or 3 lines
I think your right. The problem with Russell's work is that he was trying to convey concepts that there were no words for. He had to devise his own terminology and that is why we have trouble understanding. Also, he writes in the old style and many of the more common words had a slightly different meaning than they do today.

I find that an older dictionary (preferably a UK English version for his earlier works) is a must when reading his books.

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@Raui, thank you very much for those links!

Good points everyone else... I agree that 'The Secret Of Light' is definitely not easy reading, 'The Universal One' seemed more comprehensive and easier to understand after struggling with it.
But 'New Concept of the Universe' seems even easier. The writing style is more modern, and it seems more to the point at times.
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i cant post my work regarding this matter

sorry!

i understand this quite well many moons ago ..

and i choose to talk no further on this

i drew a picture some where .. it maps all of it togather ...

369 and deep things .. useing MY RINGS ........

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@willy96, Hey Mr. Mysterious, that sounds exciting.., what are you waiting for, please post!!!
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i did post it at overunity a long time ago ...

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@willy96, Hey Mr. Mysterious, that sounds exciting.., what are you waiting for, please post!!!
its not worth looseing your life ...
there some things i can speek freely of and others i cant ...
sorry but that truly is still out of time ... its early ...

energy anti gravity carr's work telsa sheild this kind of things right now .. if you apply russell's
work to this its ok .. but the whole thing is not ok ... ok lol if that makes any sence


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just cuz i cant talk of it doesnt mean you cant talk of it .. and if you figure it out than i guess its your job to talk of it ....


but i will not

its 10 years early i could fetch you a picture tho if ya like ... i have not built this i have mapped the energy flows saw things and isntantally realized .. not yet ..... agin some time ago i drew it out ...

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much similar to this ...


see the 3 rings 3 6 9 ? this is designed via SG 12 / 1

ever been in a round room with a bunch of doors ?

think on it ...... in mapping and figureing this out ... i notices an issue ... what is it ?

parellels! thats it .... weird sh!t eh!
ITS OUT OF TIME ! HEED THE WARNING !
AT DIFFRENT POINTS THEY INTERCETC AND WHAT? CROSS..... AT WHAT ? HARMONICS...... AND DONT TELL ME.... THE GS FITS RIGHT IN THERE ... LOL see its crazy ...

a toy for my kids .. 5 years from now !
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Hi all, Walters stuff is mind boggling. The drawings with comments and
annotations alone in the Universal One are priceless.

It is easy to go too deep thinking about it. It always comes back to the same
old questions. If there is no action without cause, then what causes the cause.
Before the Universe existed what was there. Has there ever been nothing in
existence.

My way of dealing with the unanswerable questions is to draw a line to not think
beyond. I draw the line at the Aether, I don't care where it came from and don't
have time to think about it.

Like asking a religious person where did God come from. At some point we lose
the ability to comprehend by design.

One thing I get from Walters stuff is that there are really no losses if the
entire system is considered. If we build devices (systems) that are part of
Nature then Nature is a part of the system (device), the energy in Nature is
unlimited and endlessly transformed.

There must be many ways to integrate man made devices in to Nature, we
already have had some for hundreds of years, windmills, sails, waterwheels
ect.
We just need to perfect the electrical counterpart of the windmill or waterwheel.

Sounds easy.

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its 10 years early
Yes but, according to what schedule?

I had to write "poppycock" btw because it wouldn't let me post a quote without any other text
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I have been studying Russell for a few years now and I have to admit, I had and some times I still have these kind of problems:

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The problem with Russell's work is that he was trying to convey concepts that there were no words for. He had to devise his own terminology and that is why we have trouble understanding. Also, he writes in the old style and many of the more common words had a slightly different meaning than they do today.
By far, I'm not a guru in Russell's work but what I learned for sure is not to rush and take it slow. Even Walter Russell tells it several times in his Home Study Course. It is required thinking not reading with the finality of memorising. This is why I shared with you before his call:

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"New Concept of the Universe" seemed to be easier to read and personally I believe the reason is because is written as an open letter to "Academia". Russell uses the human nature to prove his points, and this human characteristic is being judgemental. He plays the string of Ego to trigger the curiosity of scientists. Having doubts that he succeeded, I suspect he was more effective with the regular reader who found this book "juicy". The same human addiction - being judgemental this time towards the "badged scientists" - makes this book easier to read. Perhaps. This is just my opinion.

However, Walter Russell was also a philosopher and philosophy is better communicated through symbolism of ideas rather than narration which is prone to memorising.

Certainly, Russell is not as easy as a casual reading. The purpose of casual reading is relaxation, decentration (although I believe there are better ways to accomplish that).

Reading his writings requires work, effort, concentration, action. Generations of conditioning of our minds are not going to be wiped out easily. Undoing our old way of thinking (which seem more appropriate for a small talk at the pub) driven most often by our fears or egos, requires this effort.

With regard to his archaic language, I found his Home Study Course easier to read. As I said, the same was with "New Concept of the Universe" and maybe "Atomic Suicide?".

Nevertheless, because of the range of information, I found a better choice the "Home Study Course - 3-rd Edition - Revised and Expanded". I know, it is ridiculously expensive and I mulled on the idea of purchasing it for years. Now I don't regret the expense and I could recommend buying it to anyone who thinks seriously studying Russell. Now, don't think I'm playing your Ego to buy it. Just honestly consider why would you purchase it and if you would find it really useful not just for free energy research but rather as a way of life.

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this is a time travel device .. its still early .. as we bairly got the people understanding my stones ... how ya gonna travel with out the sheild ...

and lets face it .. half plus of the population are still cave men and woman

just being honest !


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its not that hard to figure out ...
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