I have been meaning to post this link for a long time now...

*I have added the bold for emphasis. Note the usage of ratios...An octave can be divided into various musical intervals...

After a brief mathematical interlude, the author goes on to state something very interesting:

in many places in Universal One book

Dont know now exactly have to look for .. but somwhere in the middle of the book

After universal mathematics , but also in universal mathematics something about this is mentioned

grizli,

I believe Russell was referring to the pressure states within Jupiter (or whichever planetary body was referenced) and not the surrounding space. Remember, in very simplified terms, the planet (or atom) is where all the action is happening, not whats around it.

Cheers,

Steve

Hey all,

I have just been wondering something....

Why does water expand when it freezes? What does this mean for WR's theory.. What is happening?

I believe the section being referred to here begins on page 164 of The Universal One. The question as to why the material making up space probes does not transmute when traveling through different pressure zones throughout the solar system is a very good one. This same question was asked at the old Walter & Lao forum, but the conversation did not seem to continue much.

I speculate that, as so long as it does not move too deeply into fields of other interstellar bodies, its individual pressure relations will not be significantly altered. Astrophysicists are definitely aware of both means of avoiding these influences (see "Interplanetary Transport Network"), and what types of pressure conditions might exist on other planets (e.g.: "Diamond Oceans Possible On Uranus & Neptune").

I agree in that the pressures increase towards center and therefore would be more evident within the body of the planet itself. However, I also feel that the inside and outside are coupled to some extent...Using the Earth as an example, I would say that the body of the Earth itself is generally akin to The Doubly Charged Sphere, while the area around it would be considered its Wave-Field.


Sedimentary & Atmospheric Layers As Pressure Planes Of Varying Potentials (...spherical pressure gradients are definitely a very archetypal pattern).

On a related note, I believe there is a relationship between the density of the Doubly Charged Sphere and the amount of energy of the Wave-Field that follows the Universal Mathematics...To put it in the context of contemporary physics, the geometry that Walter and Lao have given us is "fractal" (self-similar in nature) and follows a "power law" relationship (can be scaled up and down at will).

Wording it another way, all things are vibration and can be described in terms of Music. The sizes of the objects involved may change, but the ratios between them stay the same.

There are a few nice pages about this topic here and here for those who are interested.

Rather than reiterate that "water is special" , I will venture the guess that perhaps the Hydrogen atom itself has these features because it is naturally very "far from equilibrium"/"negetropic"/"syntropic"/"time-reversed"/etc....In Walter & Lao's terminology, we might say that it is highly "generoactive".

Really interesting conversation everyone!

The conventional stuff is way too... conventional

Unless...

WR said solids have the illusion of stability...
So if its getting less stable from 4deg to freezing, maybe something is wobbling, creating that extra space inbetween, causing the illusion of expanding...
Or am I being stupid... my previous question remains

Is that somehow related to what you said about the hydrogen being far from equilibrium?

I do not think you are being stupid. These are good questions. Your idea of a change in temperature being related to a change in the motion of the atoms, and the cause of the gaps that Hydrogen makes in the water molecules when freezing, is also very insightful. Although, it seems that it is not so much an instability as it is a locking in place.

Generally, I was thinking that since water is "thermodynamically backwards" from what is expected (both expands and decreases in density when cooled), it might be related to the fact that Hydrogen, which is the cause of this behavior, is predominately "generoactive" on Walter and Lao's periodic table.

But after a little more research it seems there is something else going on...

this is very interesting as all these are used in one form or another for energy production and alchemical use .... really interesting

Hey MonsieurM,

I enjoyed reading the thread over the last 2 nights due to all the links

The Universial One and a few other Walter Russell books are in my collection but I have never been able to start reading much of them. I'm glad that this thread is here to clarify WR's message and Hopefully a few experiments.

I do have a question about the Conical coils though. Other than the 4 coils position to achieve counter EM fields from N-E-S-W positions, how to the ratio between the coils relate to the function?

The Phi pattern of the spiral and the ratio of 1.618 is shown inverse next to the WR periodic table. Did that answer my question?

P.S: Nice touch with the Red + Blue = Purple.

Also, the Pistol Shimp was AMAZING

Regards
Zero

Thank you ZeropointEnergy .... all the guys here are quite amazing at making it understandable

a special thank you to purelyconstructive

@Purelyconstructive,

I did read all your posts/links and thanks for sharing your knowledge

Regards
Zero

I am humbled by the thanks. I feel the information to be a blessing, and it is an honor to be able to share it with you all. I sincerely hope that it can help everyone to express their fullest potential in whatever they do.

Hey Group,

Something here in all the data has helped me understand a fraction of how I can experiment with conical cones.

Has anyone posting here made a pair or 2 of the conical coils and tested the opposing fields?

Any more experiments other than the link here of Walter's generator coils as this is facinating, but hard to work out where the other replication failed. The second set of coil pairs was a guess of 50% less turns and WR would of used a formula maybe other than the phi ratio?

Regards
Zero

Can anyone explain the male-female and the positive negative signs in the blue and red quadrants of the Walter Russel diagram. This could be related to the motor-generators some of us are working on. thanks. Hiwater.

a recent discussion about Walter Russell :

Russellian Science TEC - Part 1 - Defining a New Cosmology - YouTube

enjoy

Hey MM,

Great link and some of the terminology is starting to become clear, while the context of the creator in the scope of WR message about the experiments with light/energy/matter is NOT

The magnetic still light is very clear in Radiant energy experiments with inductive spikes and the outward radiating forces. Even some of the colours associated with given frequencies.

Is there more other people other than, Dan Winter and Marko Rodin that has experimented with energy in spirals other than straight lines?.
For instance anyone posting here

Fist fights with Physicist PDF link asks a simple question. If water falls faster in a Tornado, Hurricane, Whirlpool than a rain drop in a straight line it only seems logical that electricity may. A Conical coil sounds like fun and was going to make it anyway.

Regards
Zero

ask yourself the following .... it seems that all the great minds discussed in this thread or this forum as whole are pointing towards the same concept with different terms ... barbosi was right about the use of certain terminology can be misleading as each is defined with different "perspective " in mind ... however you fill the blanks by looking at other like minded researchers who had similar thought but different way of describing it .... or at least this is how it seems to be imho

Russell used quite a bit of analogies to explain that things are fractal ( a word coined in the 80's to describe what Russell was seeing )

Ok guys... Looking back at WR's different charts of the elements. I noticed he had changed his mind a couple of times. I know I have brought this up before in this thread but I have more to add.

I see where he lists the earlier charts going from small to bigger wave amplitudes. Even in the older 10octave chart it shows the elipsoids increasing in size. Then in the later books he says the lowest "harp string" should be the longest. I have also seen others creating a cone based period of elements.

Ok so what was bothering me was that I couldn't visualize going from radiation to gravitation/concentration to decentration and it just be one size in one direction.

I thought why wouldn't the same rules apply that is within the 8 elements of each octave. It should also apply to the whole 9 octaves themselves.

So it seems simple now but I am going to rework the chart so I can better visualize it. I hope to build my 3d model of the elements soon.

If this is duplication and I just missed it, I apologize. But it def is nested vortices within the vortices. Nice!

So now it fits for after carbon it starts the unwinding/radiating process until space wins out and motion stops. Then on to the next re-birthing or beginning just like an inert gas would switch to the next one at the inertia line.

So how would this fit into the wave lengths, speed, and density of an element? Does it work?

So you would have vortices going from 0-1-2-3-404-3-2-1-0 in each octave between inert gasses but then also having that same sequence on the larger scale of each octave.

I think people are visualizing it as coming to a point at the 9th octave but it should be the opposite. It should come to a point at 4-5 octave at carbon and then expand out as it moves.

Ok.. thoughts?

I like the way you put that, very interesting.... Not I, yet, but you may have missed my post about Jay Harman earlier, his impellers and turbines are super efficient. It makes me actually wonder if he knows Walter Russell... maybe he just hasn't publicly admitted it yet... His one video starts with "Einstein says..." but maybe that's just so that people don't immediately write him off for stupid reasons.

Hey MM,

I had seen fractal patterns before and now see how it relates to phi

Regards
Zero

Hey StweenyA,

I must of missed that link and thankyou for bringing it to my attention. Jay Harmon's Lily Impeller may be like the device I heard about a few years ago that was too efficient and obtained this via modelling the device off how seaweed/plants can deflect the energy from the tidal forces.
Will update this when I can find the data later tonight since is not in digital format.

The big invention that popped to mind that nobody has mentioned was the Tesla Turbine, that is basically a multi-disk centrifugal pump and what does that remind us of

I agree that he did not mention Walter Russell for the reason he is not a household name or well know in the science textbooks.

Regards
Zero

Zero, Exactly

I have indeed been thinking about the Tesla Turbine (not sure anybody mentioned it in this thread, but it is on this forum), the main problem with that from what I read, is that nobody in this modern day and age has been able to replicate it and get the efficiencies that Tesla claimed.

However in the case of Jay Harman and Viktor Schauberger's turbine, we have this shape which actually works, (If what he's saying is true, I haven't verified it myself).

I have also been following Jason Verbelli on youtube, he is digging deep into WR's work, and has also done quite a few experiments.

the following might interest you :

Nature by Numbers - YouTube

first of Female / Male = Negative / Positive = Blue / Red dominance or if you prefer Cathode / Anode ....it is the same ( on a first degree understanding .... there is more as you explore )

so Hiwater .... how about we inverse the process .... tell us what you see .... and I'm sure others ( myself included ) would gladly clarify it and learn as well

it is best to print it so as not to strain your eyes and make notes on the printed page

Hey MM,

I knew about the fibonacci sequence before and how the sum of the 2 numbers determine the next variable and this does interest me
The 137.5 degrees variable I do not know too much about and a good excuse to learn more Maybe seen it in the 3x3 square data? The post when you mentioned Vedic mathematics has me wondering

What Vtech mentioned on the thread of using cardboard sections to make a solid/accurate conical coil is the most efficient methodology I have been able to define in my searches. Thanks Vtech and I'm having fun making templates till the correct dimensions appeal to me.

Regards
Zero

Hey,

The Tesla Turbine built more efficiently or correctly may yield the desired Telsa OU results. That would only be if we calculate our linear resistance measurements. IMO.
I agree that Viktor's engines before WW2 all had the concept of vortex flows of water, energy and a model that we can replicate.

History does have a habbit of repeating itself and hopefully we understand and implement it correctly this time.

Regards
Zero

The Wisdom contained in such philosophies is priceless, for through it we can begin to embody the mindset that allows us to Lovingly Create such technologies endlessly for the betterment of ALL.

However, if others might find it useful, I will try to share as simply and succinctly as I possibly can what I think is happening and why...

When one pulses DC into both wires of a properly made Flux Thruster Atom Pulsar (or "Rodin Coil") there are many effects that take place simultaneously. However, we will concern ourselves with just one of them for the moment:

The curvature of the wire is such that the magnetic field generated around it approaches a Phi spiral. Because the coil is bifilar (i.e.: has two windings), you have two Phi spirals meeting end-to-end (one rotating clockwise and the other counter-clockwise).


Rodin Coil Activation w/ Pulsed DC


Phi Spirals of Magnetism

These counter-rotating magnetic fields converge to a point. This point is a plasma pinch. It can also be thought of as a center of gravity...literally. You are generating a gravitational field.

To put it in the context of Walter and Lao's work, replace the term "plasma pinch" with Doubly Charged Sphere in this instance. I believe that their conical coils are generally designed to accomplish something similar to what has just been described.

So why do you need the fields to approach Phi as closely as possible? Because Phi waves both add and multiply at the same time, and the geometry of the Phi spiral is recursive. As Dan Winter would put it, this is an "infinite fractal compression of charge".

This is a very keen observation. I encourage you to continue with this line of reasoning.

I too see it as a series of nested vortices. Like this:



And I also agree that, because it is a fractal, you should be able to use the same pattern on any level of scale (whether we are speaking of the formation of each element, or the periodic table as a whole):



The reason why I made it a cone in this way was because I figured that, since the East-West Polarity is generally associated with disintegration, it would be equivalent to the "end" of the periodic table that contains the radioactive elements.

Walter Russell -- Energy Generator Coils




If i may ask ... when you look at the Donut ( not the wires ) .... Don't you think it is "too neutral " or symmetric .... if we are talking fractal .... then your donut should also reflect that .... in the form of a vortex joined by its two ends or if you prefer an ouroboros Coil

in a magnet ... the male pole is always more expanded than the female pole

follow Nature



Armadillo Lizard - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Indeed. The asymmetry is actually expressed inside the magnetic field itself. One of the effects that I did not mention was that a jet of monopolar magnetism comes out of the bottom half of toroid, but not the top. The pinch point acts as a nozzle.