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Deep sadness penetrates my core,
and will go with utmost dispatch!
I raised my head in prayer to Sin,
He was sleeping in the night, but awoke with a start with a dream:
drew the dagger from his sheath,
The name of the former ...
Then he reached Mount Mashu,
and whose flank reaches as far as the Netherworld below,
their frightening aura sweeps over the mountains.
but he pulled himself together and drew near to them.
The scorpion-being, his female, answered him:
saying to the offspring of the gods:

over rivers whose crossing is treacherous!
I want to learn ..."
About Death and Life I must ask him!"
No one has crossed through the mountains,
To the rising of the sun ...
They caused to go out..."
in cold or heat ...
The scorpion-being spoke to Gilgamesh, saying:
the mountains, the ranges, you may traverse ...
To the rising of the sun ...
They caused to go out..."
in cold or heat ...
The scorpion-being spoke to Gilgamesh, saying:
the mountains, the ranges, you may traverse ...
As soon as Gilgamesh heard this
one league he traveled ...,
Two leagues he traveled ...,
neither what lies ahead nor behind does it allow him to see.
neither what lies ahead nor behind does it allow him to see.
neither what lies ahead nor behind does it allow him to see.
neither what lies ahead nor behind does it allow him to see.
neither what lies ahead nor behind does it allow him to see.
dense was the darkness, light there was none,
... is near,
Twelve leagues he traveled and it grew brilliant.
... of the sea ... lapis lazuli,
like... emeralds (!)
raised his eyes and saw ...


ZZ Top - Blue Jeans Blues - YouTube

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I done ran into my baby

and fin'lly found my old blue jean.

I done ran into my baby

and fin'lly found my old blue jean.

Well, I could tell that they was mine

from the oil and the gasoline.



If I ever get back my blue jean,

Lord, how happy could one man be.

If I ever get back my blue jean,

Lord, how happy could one man be.

'Cause if I get back those blue jean

you know, my baby be bringin' 'em home to me.

ZZ Top Blue Jean Blues
Poetic Edda/Hyndluljóð

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33. All the volva's
are from Vidolv;
all the wizard's
from Vilmeid,
all the wizards
from Suarthofda;
all the Jotuns
come from Ymir.
sure it has somthing to do with Female Right / Male Left
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A little info update ... I think you are going to like this one .... principle of correspondence

Blue Light Tells Plants When To Flower - Science News

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As the days become longer in spring, plants know to bloom thanks to an interaction between several crucial proteins and blue light, scientists report in the May 25 Science. The new work describes the molecular mechanics that enables a light-sensitive protein to help switch on a suite of genes that control flowering. Understanding the biology of how plants regulate flowering could be useful for tweaking crops to start producing food earlier in the year.


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Rabelais emphasizes in his
Appendix to the last chapter of the fifth book of Pantagruel when he writes: "Therefore, when
you philosophers, God guiding, accompanying them by some clear lantern, will devote
themselves to careful research and investigation as is natural to humans
(and because of this
quality Herodotus and Homer have been called Alphestes (1), i.e., seekers and inventors) they
will find the answer made by the sage Thales of Amasis, king of the Egyptians, to be true,
when he was asked which thing contained the most prudence: Time, he said, for through Time
have all latent things been invented and through Time they will be; and this is the reason why
the ancients called Saturn Time, the father of Truth, and Truth the daughter of Time (see Codex of Love . They
will also without fail recognize all the science, they and their predecessors have acquired, to
be but the smallest part of that which is, and which they know not" - Fulcanelli


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Hotel California lyrics


On a dark desert highway, cool wind in my hair
Warm smell of colitas rising up through the air
Up ahead in the distance I saw a shimmering light
My head grew heavy and my sight grew dim
I had to stop for the night
There she stood in the doorway, I heard the mission bell
Then I was thinking to myself this could be Heaven or this could be Hell
Then she lit up a candle and she showed me the way
There were voices down the corridor I thought I heard them say
"Welcome to the Hotel California
Such a lovely place
(Such a lovely place)
Such a lovely face
Plenty of room at the Hotel California
Any time of year
(Any time of year)
You can find it here"
Her mind is Tiffany twisted, she got the Mercedes Benz
She got a lot of pretty, pretty boys that she calls friends
How they dance in the courtyard, sweet summer sweat

Some dance to remember, some dance to forget
So I called up the captain, "Please bring me my wine"
He said, "We haven't had that spirit here since 1969"
And still those voices are calling from far away
Wake you up in the middle of the night just to hear them say
"Welcome to the Hotel California
Such a lovely place
(Such a lovely place)
Such a lovely face
They're living it up at the Hotel California
What a nice surprise
(What a nice surprise)
Bring your alibis"
Mirrors on the ceiling, the pink champagne on ice
And she said, "We are all just prisoners here of our own device"
And in the master's chambers they gathered for the feast
They stab it with their steely knives but they just can't kill the beast
Last thing I remember I was running for the door
I had to find the passage back to the place I was before
"Relax," said the night man, "We are programmed to receive
You can check out any time you like but you can never leave"
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[QUOTE=MonsieurM;195197]A little info update ... I think you are going to like this one .... principle of correspondence

Blue Light Tells Plants When To Flower - Science News

Blue light helps the plant flower and the red light in chlorophyll, is also a powerhouse, re food production for growth, if I remember correctly Both these colours appear to operate behind the scenes. Correspondence?
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A little info update ... I think you are going to like this one .... principle of correspondence

Blue Light Tells Plants When To Flower - Science News

Blue light helps the plant flower and the red light in chlorophyll, is also a powerhouse, re food production for growth, if I remember correctly Both these colours appear to operate behind the scenes. Correspondence?
Blue + Red = Purple
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The Lion Sleep s Tonight

Whoa, thought it was a nightmare,
Lo, it's all so true,
They told me, \"Don't go walkin' slow
'Cause Devil's on the loose.\"

CHORUS:
Better run through the jungle,
Better run through the jungle,
Better run through the jungle,
Woa, Don't look back to see.

Thought I heard a rumblin'
Callin' to my name,
Two hundred million guns are loaded
Satan cries, \"Take aim!\"

CHORUS

Over on the mountain
Thunder magic spoke,
\"Let the people know my wisdom,
Fill the land with smoke.\"

My response to you is:
The Lion Sleeps TonightThe Tokens
In the jungle, the mighty jungle
The lion sleeps tonight
In the jungle the quiet jungle
The lion sleeps tonight

Near the village the peaceful village
The lion sleeps tonight
Near the village the quiet village
The lion sleeps tonight

Hush my darling don't fear my darling
The lion sleeps tonight
Hush my darling don't fear my darling
The lion sleeps tonight


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wanted to share with you an excerpt from:

The Complete Simon
Necronomicon


just started reading it :

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Worship of the Ancient Ones in History
"Let them curse it that curse the day, who are skilful to rouse Leviathan." - JOB
3:8
S.H. Hooke, in his excellent Middle Eastern Mythology, tells us that the Leviathan
mentioned in JOB, and elsewhere in the Old Testament, is the Hebrew name given to the
Serpent TIAMAT, and reveals that there was in existence either a cult, or scattered
individuals, who worshipped or called up the Serpent of the Sea, or Abyss. Indeed, the
Hebrew word for Abyss that is found in GENESIS 1:2 is, Hooke tells us, tehom, which
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the majority of scholars take to be a survival of the name of the chaos-dragon TIAMAT
or Leviathan that is identified closely with KUTULU or Cthulhu within the pages are
mentioned independently of each other, indicating that somehow KUTULU is the male
counterpart of TIAMAT, similar to ABSU.
This monster is well known to cult worship all over the world. In China, however, there
is an interesting twist. Far from being considered a completely hostile creature, dedicated
to the erasure of mankind from the page of existence, the Dragon is given a place of pre-
eminence and one does not hear of a Chinese angel or saint striving to slay the dragon,
but rather to cultivate it. The Chinese system of geomancy, feng shui (pronounced fung
shway) is the science of understanding the "dragon currents" which exist beneath the
earth, these same telluric energies that are distilled in such places as Chartres Cathedral in
France, Glastonbury Tor in England, and the Ziggurats of Mesopotamia. In both the
European and Chinese cultures, the Dragon or Serpent is said to reside somewhere
"below the earth"; it is a powerful force, a magickal force, which is identified with
mastery over the created world; it is also a power that can be summoned by the few and
not the many. However, in China, there did not seem to be a backlash of fear or
resentment against this force as was known in Europe and Palestine, and the symbol of
might and kingship in China is still the Dragon. In the West, the conjuration, cultivation,
or worship of this Power was strenuously opposes with the advent of the Solar,
Monotheistic religions and those who clung to the Old Ways were effectively
extinguished. The wholesale slaughter of those called "Witches" during the Inquisition is
an example of this, as well as the solemn and twisted - that is to say, purposeless and
unenlightened - celibacy that the Church espoused. For the orgone of Wilhelm Reich is
just as much Leviathan as the Kundalini of Tantrick adepts, and the Power raised by the
Witches. It has always, at least in the past two thousand years, been associated with
occultism and essentially with Rites of Evil Magick, or the Forbidden Magick, of the
Enemy, and of Satan . . .
. . . and the twisting, sacred Spiral formed by the Serpent of the Caduceus, and by the
spinning of the galaxies, is also the same Leviathan as the Spiral of the biologists' Code
of Life : DNA
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The Goddess of the Witches
The current revival of the cult called WICCA is a manifestation of the ancient secret
societies that sought to tap this telluric, occult force and use it to their own advantage,
and to the advantage of humanity as was the original intent. The raising of the Cone of
Power through the circle dancing is probably the simplest method of attaining results in
"rousing Leviathan", and has been used by societies as diverse as the Dervishes in the
Middle East and the Python Dancers of Africa, not to mention the round dances that were
familiar to the Gnostic Christians, and the ones held every year in the past at Chartres.
The Witches of today, however, while acknowledging the importance of the Male
element of telluric Power, generally prefer to give the greater honour to the Female
Principle, personified as the Goddess. The Goddess has also been worshipped all over the
world, and under many names, but is still essentially the same Goddess. That TIAMAT
was undoubtedly female is to the point; and that the Chinese as well as the Sumerians
perceived of two dragon currents, male and female, gives the researchers a more complex
picture. The Green Dragon and the Red Dragon of the alchemists are thus identified, as
the positive and negative energies that compromise the cosmos of our perception, as
manifest in the famous Chinese yin-yang symbol.
But what of INANNA, the single planetary deity having a female manifestation among
the Sumerians? She is invoked in the NECRONOMICON and identified as the
vanquisher of Death, for she descended into the Underworld and defeated her sister, the
Goddess of the Abyss, Queen ERESHKIGAL (possibly another name for TIAMAT).
Interestingly enough, the myth has many parallels with the Christian concept of Christ's
death and resurrection, among which the Crucifixion (INANNA was impaled on a stake
as a corpse), the three days in the Sumerian Hades, and the eventual Resurrection are
outstanding examples of how Sumerian mythology previewed the Christian religion by
perhaps as many as three thousand years - a fact that beautifully illustrates the cosmic and
eternal nature of this myth.
Therefore, the Goddess of the Witches has two distinct forms: the Ancient One, Goddess
of the Dragon-like telluric Power which is raised in Magickal rituals, and the Elder
Goddess, Defeater of Death, who brings the promise of Resurrection and Rejuvenation to
her followers those who must reside f ( the 2 mercuries ) for a time after death and between incarnations in
what is called the "Summerland".
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Probable the most inconsistent concept the Sumerians possesses with reference to the
Craft is the naming of the Goddess as a deity, not of the Moon (as the Craft would have
it), but of the planet Venus. The Moon was governed by a male divinity, NANNA (like
INANNA but minus the initial 'I'), and was considered the Father of the Gods by the
earliest Sumerian religion. It should be noted, however, that all of the planetary deities,
termed "the zoned Ones" or zonei in Greek, and indeed all of the Sumerian deities, had
both male and female manifestations, showing that the Sumerians definitely recognised a
yin-yang composition if the universe (the "male Moon" idea is, the Editor is given to
understand, common to so-called Aryan mythologies). There is also evidence to show
that every god and goddess also had both a good and an evil nature, and evil gods were
banished in the exorcism formulae of that civilisation as well as the lesser forms of
demon
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one more thing check this out .... an old show but still matters today

2-05 In Search Of... Astrology (Part 3 of 3) - YouTube

it is only 8:24 min long ..... note what JP morgan ( an acquaintance of Tesla ) said

ps: you can also link it to Bruce Cathie's work

Bruce Cathie - Calculating an Atomic Bomb Test - YouTube

4.04-UFO Australia-In Search of... - YouTube
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let's paly a little game : who wrote the following

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These luminous phenomena still manifest themselves from time to time, as when a new idea opening up possibilities strikes me, but they are no longer exciting, being of relatively small intensity. When I close my eyes I invariably observe first, a background of very dark and uniform blue, not unlike the sky on a clear but starless night. In a few seconds this field becomes animated with innumerable scintillating flakes of green, arranged in several layers and advancing towards me. Then there appears, to the right, a beautiful pattern of two systems of parallel and closely spaced lines, at right angles to one another, in all sorts of colors with yellow-green and gold predominating. Immediately thereafter the lines grow brighter and the whole is thickly sprinkled with dots of twinkling light. This picture moves slowly across the field of vision and in about ten seconds vanishes to the left, leaving behind a ground of rather unpleasant and inert
grey which quickly gives way to a billowy sea of clouds, seemingly trying to mould themselves in living shapes. It is curious that I cannot project a form into this grey until the second phase is reached. Every time, before falling asleep, images of persons or objects flit before my view. When I see them I know that I am about to lose consciousness. If they are absent and refuse to come it means a sleepless night


hint:

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All repeated acts or operations I performed had to be
divisible by three and if I mist I felt impelled to do it all over again, even if it took hours.
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After finishing the studies at the Polytechnic Institute and University I had a complete nervous
breakdown and while the malady lasted I observed many phenomena strange and unbelievable
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-49fX6C2kE

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Smoke Stack Lightning lyrics
Songwriters: Chester Arthur Burnett




Ah oh, smokestack lightnin'
Shinin' just like gold
Why don't ya hear me cryin'?
A whoo hoo, whoo hoo, whoo

Whoa oh tell me, baby
What's the matter with you?
Why don't ya hear me cryin'?
Whoo hoo, whoo hoo, whooo

Whoa oh tell me, baby
Where did ya, stay last night?
A-why don't ya hear me cryin'?
Whoo hoo, whoo hoo, whooo

Whoa oh, stop your train
Let her go for a ride
Why don't ya hear me cryin'?
Whoo hoo, whoo hoo, whooo

Whoa oh, fare ya well
Never see, a you no more
A-why don't ya hear me cryin'?
Whoo hoo, whoo hoo, whooo

Whoa oh, who been here baby since
I, I been gone, a little bitty boy?
Girl, be on
Whoo hoo, whoo hoo, whooo


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But instinct is something
which transcends knowledge. We have, undoubtedly, certain finer fibers that enable us to
perceive truths when logical deduction, or any other willful effort of the brain, is futile. For a time I
wavered, imprest by the professor's authority, but soon became convinced I was right and
undertook the task with all the fire and boundless confidence of youth.
one more for fun

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In one of these biographical sketches, published in the ELECTRICAL EXPERIMENTER, I have
dwelt on the circumstances of my early life and told of an affliction which compelled me to
unremitting exercise of imagination and self observation. This mental activity, at first involuntary
under the pressure of illness and suffering, gradually became second nature and led me finally to
recognize that I was but an automaton devoid of free will in thought and action and merely
responsive to the forces of the environment. Our bodies are of such complexity of structure, the
motions we perform are so numerous and involved, and the external impressions on our sense
organs to such a degree delicate and elusive that it is hard for the average person to grasp this
fact. And yet nothing is more convincing to the trained investigator than the mechanistic theory of
life which had been, in a measure, understood and propounded by Descartes three hundred
years ago. But in his time many important functions of our organism were unknown and,
especially with respect to the nature of light and the construction and operation of the eye,
philosophers were in the dark.
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Our bodies are of similar construction and exposed to the same external influences. This results
in likeness of response and concordance of the general activities on which all our social and other

rules and laws are based. We are automata entirely controlled by the forces of the medium being
tossed about like corks on the surface of the water, but mistaking the resultant of the impulses
from the outside for free will. The movements and other actions we perform are always life
preservative and tho seemingly quite independent from one another, we are connected by
invisible links. So long as the organism is in perfect order it responds accurately to the agents
that prompt it, but the moment that there is some derangement in any individual, his self-
preservative power is impaired. Everybody understands, of course, that if one becomes deaf,
has his eyesight weakened, or his limbs injured, the chances for his continued existence are
lessened. But this is also true, and perhaps more so, of certain defects in the brain which deprive
the automaton, more or less, of that vital quality and cause it to rush into destruction. A very
sensitive and observant being, with his highly developed mechanism all intact, and acting with
precision in obedience to the changing conditions of the environment, is endowed with a
transcending mechanical sense, enabling him to evade perils too subtle to be directly perceived.
When he comes in contact with others whose controlling organs are radically faulty, that sense
asserts itself and he feels the "cosmic" pain. The truth of this has been borne out in hundreds of
instances and I am inviting other students of nature to devote attention to this subject, believing
that thru combined and systematic effort results of incalculable value to the world will be attained.
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the person who wrote the previous quotes is :

The inventions, researches and writings of Nikola Tesla, with special reference to his work in polyphase currents and high potential lighting

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see also Francis E. WILKINSON

High-Frequency Transformations

Francis E. WILKINSON -- High Frequency Transformations

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shall we continue our Mystical Journey like a Schmetterling

Guru Granth Sahib - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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The Guru Granth Sahib (Punjabi: ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ [ɡʊɾu ɡɾəntʰ sɑhɪb]), or Adi Granth, is the religious text of Sikhism.[1] It is a voluminous text of 1430 angs, compiled and composed during the period of Sikh gurus, from 1469 to 1708.[1] It is a collection of hymns (shabda) or baani describing the qualities of God[2] and why one should meditate on God's name. Guru Gobind Singh (1666–1708), the tenth guru, affirmed the sacred text Adi Granth as his successor, elevating it to Guru Granth Sahib.[3] The text remains the holy scripture of the Sikhs, regarded as the teachings of the Ten Gurus.[4] The role of Adi Granth, as a source or guide of prayer,[5] is pivotal in worship in Sikhism.

The Adi Granth was first compiled by the fifth Sikh guru, Guru Arjan Dev (1563–1606), from hymns of the first five Sikh gurus and other great saints, or bhagats, including those of the Hindu and Muslim faith.[2] After the demise of the tenth Sikh guru many edited copies were prepared for distribution by Baba Deep Singh.

It is written in the Gurmukhī script, in melange of various dialects – including Lehndi Punjabi, Braj Bhasha, Khariboli, Sanskrit and Persian – often coalesced under the generic title of Sant Bhasha.[6]
Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji

3 in blue as it is a Lunar reading

Listening-take your cleansing bath at the sixty-eight places of pilgrimage.
O Nanak, the devotees are forever in bliss.
Listening-the Shaykhs, religious scholars, spiritual teachers and emperors
O Nanak, the devotees are forever in bliss.
One who tries to describe this shall regret the attempt. (infinite fractal )
Such is the Name of the Immaculate Lord.
The faithful know about all worlds and realms.
Such is the Name of the Immaculate Lord.
The faithful shall depart with honor and fame.
Such is the Name of the Immaculate Lord.
The faithful uplift and redeem their family and relations.
Such is the Name of the Immaculate Lord.
The chosen ones are honored in the Court of the Lord.
No matter how much anyone tries to explain and describe them,
this is what patiently holds the earth in its place.
So many worlds beyond this world-so very many!
were all inscribed by the Ever-flowing Pen of God.
What power! What fascinating beauty!
Hundreds of thousands of rivers began to flow.
Whatever pleases You is the only good done,
Countless worship services, countless austere disciplines.
Countless Yogis, whose minds remain detached from the world.






not really familiar with this sacred book's structure but here is the first line of page 3

Listening-pain and sin are erased. ||9||
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The many created Buddhas speak.
Many speak and try to describe Him.
even then, they could not describe Him.
If anyone presumes to describe God,
The Sound-current of the Naad vibrates there, and countless musicians play on all sorts of instruments there.
Chitr and Gupt, the angels of the conscious and the subconscious who record actions, and the Righteous Judge of Dharma who judges this record sing.
The Siddhas in Samaadhi sing; the Saadhus sing in contemplation.
The Mohinis, the enchanting heavenly beauties who entice hearts in this world, in paradise, and in the underworld of the subconscious sing.
The planets, solar systems and galaxies, created and arranged by Your Hand, sing.
That True Lord is True, Forever True, and True is His Name.
Having created the creation, He watches over it Himself, by His Greatness.
Make contentment your ear-rings, humility your begging bowl, and meditation the ashes you apply to your body.
I bow to Him, I humbly bow.
He Himself is the Supreme Master of all; wealth and miraculous spiritual powers, and all other external tastes and pleasures, are all like beads on a string.


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The Mohinis, the enchanting heavenly beauties who entice hearts in paradise, in this world, and in the underworld of the subconscious, sing of You.
The worlds, solar systems and galaxies, created and arranged by Your Hand, sing of You.
That True Lord is True, forever True, and True is His Name.
Having created the creation, He watches over it Himself, by His Greatness.
Aasaa, First Mehl:
His Value cannot be estimated; He cannot be described.
No one knows the extent or the vastness of Your Expanse. ||1|
The spiritual teachers, the teachers of meditation, and the teachers of teachers
all the great miraculous spiritual powers of the Siddhas
What can the poor helpless creatures do?
O Nanak, the True One embellishes and exalts. ||4||2||
It is so difficult to chant the True Name.
How can I forget Him, O my mother?
people have grown weary, but they have not been able to evaluate it.
That Lord does not die; there is no reason to mourn.
There never has been, and there never will be. ||3||


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You created the creation; You behold it and understand it.
In that pool, people have made their homes, but the water there is as hot as fire!
You have forgotten the Lord; your virtues shall wither away. ||1|
Aasaa, Fifth Mehl:
Nothing else will work.
You are squandering this life uselessly in the love of Maya. ||1||
Says Nanak, my actions are contemptible!
One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:
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Your Gifts cannot be appraised; how can anyone compare to the Giver? ||2||
Unto each and every home, into each and every heart, this summons is sent out; the call comes each and every day.
There are six schools of philosophy, six teachers, and six sets of teachings.
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a little philosophical thought to leave you with :

Sure most of you have been out to a bar , nightclub , party .... and experienced the lights on phenomena .... the world around seemed more enjoyable / attractive when veiled with darkness .... when the light is turned on another different world presents itself to you with all its downside

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However, that which was preordained hath come to pass. Shouldst thou return unto Us while revelation still continueth through Us, We shall transform thy fire into light. Truly We are powerful over all things. But if thou failest in this task, thou shalt find no way open to thee other than to embrace the Cause of God and to implore that the matter of thine allegiance be brought to the attention of Him Whom God shall make manifest, that He may graciously enable thee to prosper and cause thy fire to be transformed into light. This is that which hath been sent down unto Us. Should this not come to pass, whatever We have set down shall remain binding and irrevocably decreed by God, the Help in Peril, the Self-Subsisting, and We shall therefore banish thee from Our presence as a token of justice on Our part. Verily we are equitable in Our judgement.
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The Bábi Faith (Persian: بابی ها‎ Bábí há ) is a religious movement that flourished in Persia from 1844 to 1852, then lingered on in exile in the Ottoman Empire (especially Cyprus) as well as underground. Its founder was Siyyid `Alí Muhammad Shirazi, who took the title Báb—meaning "Gate"—from a Shi'a theological term. Unlike other Islamic messianic movements, the Bábí movement signalled a break with Islam and attempted to start a new religious system. While the Bábí movement was violently opposed and crushed by the clerical and government establishments in the country in the mid 1850s, the Bábí movement led to the founding of the Bahá'í Faith which sees the religion brought by the Báb as a predecessor to their own religion, and gives a renewed significance to the Bábí movement.[1]




ps: Marko Rodin creator of the rodin coil belongs to this Vibe ......still think it should look more like the ouroboros coil
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Thanks again MonsieurM for this thread I'ts very educative and knowledge boosting, and are setting intuition at hard labour, as it always should be.

The references to geomancy, serpent/dragons and Feng Shui straightened out a few issues I had about dowsing, and pointed out entirely new things to study.

Going back to Havamal and stories about the nordic Asa gods, There's the one about Thor at a visit at the giant's nest in Utgård (the underworld) being challenged to empty a jug of mead in one go, but failing. Then to wrestle with an old woman, but failing too. Later to learn that he was fooled by magic. The jug of mead were in fact the ocean, which he nearly drank empty in one go, and the old woman were age, which not even mighty Thor could defeat.

But before he learned about these tricks, he was also challenged to lift a cat, but only managed to make it stick one leg up but still standing on three. That was the "Midgård" serpent (or rather dragon as the 'snake' has legs), one of the Ragnarök/Armageddon monsters, who is as long as the circumstance of the earth.

Thor also met the Midgård serpent (Midgård is the name of the human world) during a fishing trip and he almost managed to kill it, if not the giant who owned the boat had cut off the reef just before that happened.



Why is Thor so eager to battle the serpent? It was moved from land and placed in the ocean by Odin. There it made no harm, waiting for it's role to play in the great Ragnarök event. The serpent is one of Loke's children, Loke the Asa god who was born among giants. Thor acts as the church against witches and other knowledgeable, and indeed, Havamal isn't that old, it could be considered a last attempt to study and preserve the remains of a nearly lost culture. Is it part of the cultural exchange, accept the 'White Christ' (Jesus) and look, we the church do nothing different that your ancestors already did. The writer Snorre Sturlason was indeed a man of 'White Christ' although with an anthropological interest for the history.

The real interesting thing is wether or not the Midgård serpent still lies there in the bottom of the ocean, biting it's own tail. It could represent water streams and waves but that's just a guess, 'a shot from the mind' to name it what Thor would have done. There's so many serpents in the nordic/germanic old stories, and the connection between serpents and earth energy makes this of great interest for me.

So, the last verse of the Völuspa, where a new serpent appears, what is that, a vibrational change perhaps?
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Thanks again MonsieurM for this thread I'ts very educative and knowledge boosting, and are setting intuition at hard labour, as it always should be.

The references to geomancy, serpent/dragons and Feng Shui straightened out a few issues I had about dowsing, and pointed out entirely new things to study.



So, the last verse of the Völuspa, where a new serpent appears, what is that, a vibrational change perhaps?
that is the thought this discussion seems to point towards .... then again we don't have all the elements yet to know for sure but the musical instruments are all shaped like humans ( female shape like a classic coke Bottle )



a snake



------------------- you should check out this radio show quite informative on music / vibration :

Red Ice Radio - Richard Merrick - Hour 1 - The Venus Blueprint

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Richard Merrick is an award-winning pioneer in the high-tech industry, developing sound- and language-recognition systems, graphics and animation engines, and AI game engines designed to mirror and mimic human behavior. He retired in 2006 to further develop his theory of music perception, called harmonic interference theory. In addition to writing several books on topics related to harmonic science, he has written for Nexus and Caduceus magazines and has spoken as a guest lecturer at Rosslyn chapel in Scotland. In this program Richard talks about his new book "The Venus Blueprint: Uncovering the Ancient Science of Sacred Spaces". The book presents evidence that the orbital resonance pattern of Venus was used as a "temple template" to design psychoacoustical chambers capable of focusing and controlling entheogenic communion. The book has been released just in time for the Venus Transit of June 5-6th, 2012. This special event will not occur again until another 105 years.



one more thing mentioned in the above link:

13 Principle of Gender and 8 as Hermes ............well 13 / 8 = 13 / 8 = 1.625 ( HM 5 ) / the golden ratio = 1.61803399
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an interesting vid ..... BREAKING: Sphere Deflects Solar Eruption! May 25, 2012 - SunsFlare , page 1



About the the Story of Thor you posted

If Thor was a trait of character what would it be
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there is more to it than just ceremony

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The Japanese tea ceremony, also called the Way of Tea, is a Japanese cultural activity involving the ceremonial preparation and presentation of matcha, powdered green tea. In Japanese, it is called chanoyu (茶の湯?) or chadō, sadō (茶道?). The manner in which it is performed, or the art of its performance, is called otemae (お手前; お点前?). Zen Buddhism was a primary influence in the development of the tea ceremony. Much less commonly, it uses leaf tea, primarily sencha; see sencha tea ceremony, below.

Tea gatherings are classified as chakai (茶会?) or chaji (茶事?). A chakai is a relatively simple course of hospitality that includes confections, thin tea (薄茶 usucha?), and perhaps a light meal. A chaji is a much more formal gathering, usually including a full-course kaiseki meal followed by confections, thick tea (濃茶 koicha?), and thin tea. A chaji can last up to four hours.


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The ro season; a host rests a bamboo ladle on an iron pot that rests inside the ro).

Seasonality and the changing of the seasons are important in tea ceremony. Traditionally the year is divided by tea practitioners into two main seasons: the sunken hearth (炉 ro?) season, constituting the colder months (traditionally November to April), and the brazier (風炉 furo?) season, constituting the warmer months (traditionally May to October). For each season, there are variations in the temae performed and utensils and other equipment used. Ideally, the configuration of the tatami in a 4.5 mat room changes with the season as well.
------------------ If you look even closer from treeling to the tea ceremony itself is a living allegory to the work of the Alchemist / Telestis


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Gyokuro (Japanese: 玉露?, "jewel dew") is a fine and expensive type of shaded green tea from Japan. It differs from the standard sencha (a classic unshaded green tea) in being grown under the shade rather than the full sun. Gyokuro also differs from another shaded tea called kabusecha (lit., "covered tea"), in the length of time it undergoes the final growth under the shade (gyokuro is shaded for approximately three weeks, while kabusecha is shaded for approximately one week[1]). The name "gyokuro" translates as "jewel dew" (or "jade dew", referring to the pale green colour of the infusion). While most sencha is from the Yabukita (薮北?) cultivar of Camellia sinensis, gyokuro is often made from a specialized variety such as Asahi, Okumidori, Yamakai, and Saemidori.
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Zen Buddhism has been an influence in the development of the tea ceremony. The elements of the Japanese tea ceremony is the harmony of nature and self cultivation, and enjoying tea in a formal and informal setting.
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Thor would represent Indra, Jupiter or Zeus. Odin is his father, and the earth, manifested as the woman Frigg, Odin's wife, is his mother.

So the son of earth and knowledge battles the serpents which his father never fought but moved to a secure place, sometimes win but in the long run lose. Makes sense to me. Although hard won, there will be a happy ending to the story as soon as their regime meets Ragnarök? The golden days will be met by a new serpent, a new vibration that not necessarily damages the then living but would have been a terror for the old ones? One could always wish for it and affirm it in that way.
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The egyptian Ra seems to be a crossing of Odin and Thor. Ra can send his eye around the sky and watch what's going on, (Odin's eye) and battles giants and trolls (Thor/Indra). Indra also has a serpent to deal with, Vritra.

In the top of the world tree sits an eagle with a falcon in his forehead. Came to think of Ra and Horus. So the creatures that lives in the world tree are not free standing entities, they're different kinds of representations of the gods. Their Totems perhaps, in a way.
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Thor would represent Indra, Jupiter or Zeus. Odin is his father, and the earth, manifested as the woman Frigg, Odin's wife, is his mother.

So the son of earth and knowledge battles the serpents which his father never fought but moved to a secure place, sometimes win but in the long run lose. Makes sense to me. Although hard won, there will be a happy ending to the story as soon as their regime meets Ragnarök? The golden days will be met by a new serpent, a new vibration that not necessarily damages the then living but would have been a terror for the old ones? One could always wish for it and affirm it in that way.
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a fractal construct has an 'efficient function', it has a fractal ergonomy to them, they function on multiple levels and in multiple dimensions:

the following may help you see through the myst

Most Holy Trinosophia: Notes and Commentaries

St.-Germain chiefly employs alchemical symbols in this book of The Threefold Wisdom. This in no way infers that he is actually writing of chemical processes, for, as most of the great alchemists have agreed, the manufacturing of material gold is the least part of their science. That St.-Germain’s meaning may be clear and the correlations between the zodiacal signs and the alchemical processes become evident, the following table will prove useful:


Aries
Calcination

Expulsion of the animal soul through heat. (Purification by the fire of aspiration.)

Taurus
Congelation

The union of parts; the achievement of one-pointedness or purpose.

Gemini
Fixation

The condition of becoming firm, the fixing of the will.

Cancer
Dissolution

To dissolve or to suspend in a fluid state; the universalizing of the personality.

Leo
Digestion

To soften by heat and moisture; to perfect the mind in wisdom (heat) and imagination (humidity).

Virgo
Distillation

The separation of the volatile principle from substance; the release of the soul from its involvement in bodily limitation.

Libra
Sublimation

The refining of elemental bodies; the increasing of the vibratory harmonies of the body.

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Scorpio
Separation or Putrefaction

The philosophic death; an artificial decay by which the spiritual and material elements are separated from each other.

Sagittarius
Incineration

The burning away of dross; the soul fire comsumes the external body.

Capricorn
Fermentation

The conversion of organic susbtance into new compounds by a ferment; the building of the Golden Man.

Aquarius
Multiplication

The process of increasing; adeptship.

Pisces
Projection

The process of transmuting base substance into Gold; the perfection of the Work; immortality; in the eastern tradition, Buddhahood.


The arrangement of these symbols and processes differs in minor degree among the various writers, but the principle is always the same—the tran mutation of the not-Self into the Self; the tincturing of the outer life with the inner grace; the projection of soul upon its physical environment; the sublimation of evil into good; the multiplication of beauty, love, and truth until finally the powder of projection (wisdom) shall tincture the whole world. The alchemists tell us that a minute particle of the "Red Lion" can transmute into the purest gold a hundred thousand times its own weight. Wisdom—and wisdom alone—can accomplish this, for one wise man can perfect the ages, and a little truth will in time so greatly increase that the universe may not contain it.



ps: this system / process is scalable on all levels ( think electromagnetically )
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Comte de St. Germain --- The Most Holy Trinosophia (Alchemy)

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The Most Holy Trinosophia


SECTION THREE

A strong wind arose and I had difficulty in keeping my lamp alight. At last I saw a white marble platform to which I mounted by nine steps. Arrived at the last one I beheld a vast expanse of water. To my right I heard the impetuous tumbling of torrents; to my left a cold rain mixed with masses of ail fell near me. I was contemplating this majestic scene when the star which had guided me to the platform and which was slowly swinging overhead, plunged into the gulf. Believing that I was reading the commands of the Most High, I threw myself into the midst of the waves. An invisible hand seized my lamp and placed it on the crown of my head. I breasted the foamy wave and struggle to reach the side opposite the one which I had left. At last I saw on the horizon a feeble gleam and hastened forward. Perspiration streamed down my face and I exhausted myself in vain efforts. The shore which I could scarcely discern seemed to recede to the degree I advanced. My strength was ebbing. I feared not to die, but to die without illumination… I lost courage, and lifting to the vault my tear-streaming ayes I cried out: ‘Judica Judicium meum et redime me, propter eloquium tuum vivifica me’ (Judge thou my judgment and redeem me, by thy eloquence make me live). I could hardly move my tired limbs and was sinking more and more when near me I saw a boat. A richly dressed man guided it. I noticed that the prow was turned toward the shore which I had left. He drew near. A golden crown shone on his forehead. ‘Vade me cum’, said he, ‘mecum principium in terries, intruam te in via hac qua gradueris’ (Come with me, with me, the foremost in the world; I will show thee the way thou must follow). I instantly answered him: ‘Bonum est sperare in Domino quam considere in princibus’ (It is better to trust in the Lord than to sit among the mighty). Whereupon the boat sank and the monarch with it. Fresh energy coursed through my veins and I gained the goal of my efforts. I found myself on a shore covered with green sand. A silver wall was before me inlaid with two panels of red marble. Approaching I noticed on one of them a sacred script, the other being engraved with a line of Greek letters; between the two plates was an iron circle. Two lions, one red and the other black, rested on clouds and appeared to guard a golden crown above them. Also near the circle were to be seen a bow and two arrows. I read several characters written on the flanks of one of the lions. I had barely observed these different emblems when they vanished together with the wall which contained them.

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SECTION SIX

The hall is called
and the triangular altar
Before thou visit this edifice, each of my eight brothers and myself will present thee with a gift’. He walked up to me and with the kiss of peace gave me a cube of grey earth called
(see drawing )
the second gave me three cylinders of black stone called
(see drawing )
the third a small piece of rounded crystal called
the fourth a crest of blue plumes named
the fifth added a silver vase which carried the name of
the sixth gave me a cluster of grapes known by the sages under the name of
the seventh presented me with the figure of a bird similar in its form to
but it had not its brilliant hues; it was of silver. ‘It has the same name’, he said to me; ‘it is for thee to give it the same virtues’. The eighth gave me a small altar, resembling the altar ( see drawings )



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SECTION NINE

I saw with surprise that in order to reach the other buildings I should have to cross a wider lake than the first one. For eighteen days I walked in the water. I recalled that when crossing the first lake its waters became darker and thicker as I advanced. The waters of this lake, on the contrary, became ever clearer the closer I approached the shore. My robe, which had in the palace become as black as the walls, seemed to me to be of a grayish hue; gradually it resumed its colors; however, it did not become entirely blue but was nearer to a beautiful green.

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SECTION TWELVE

With astonishment I gazed around this crystal globe when a new phenomenon excited my admiration. From the floor of the hall ascended a gentle vapor, moist and saffron yellow. It enveloped me, raised me gently and within thirty-six days bore me up to the upper part of the globe. Thereafter the vapor thinned; little by little I descended and finally found myself again on the floor. My robe had changed its colour. It had been green when I entered the hall, but now changed to a brilliant red. A contrary effect had taken place in the sand on which the globe rested. Gradually its red colour had been transformed into black. After finishing my ascent I remained three more days in that hall.




SECTION EIGHT

To reach it I would have been obliged to follow the windings of a shore covered with rocks, and I preferred to cross the lake. I entered the water which was as thick as cement. I noticed that it was useless for me to swim since my feet touched bottom everywhere. I walked in the lake for thirteen days. At last I came to the other shore.

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In ancient times, astronomers tracked the orbit of Venus very closely, discovering that it traced a pentagonal rose pattern in the sky over eight years.
. Caused by a planetary resonance where Venus orbits the Sun thirteen times for every eight orbits of the Earth, this rose-line or “rosslyn” pentacle was greatly revered in the mystery schools. It was even used as a blueprint to design the “sacred spaces” of many famous chapels, cathedrals and temples.
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In 2006, I saw a press release announcing that the resonance patterns of a song had been carved into the arches of Scotland’s 15th-century Rosslyn chapel. Curious as to why resonant patterns would be carved into the architecture of a medieval chapel, I began to study the chapel. It was not long before I began to suspect that Rosslyn had been built to honor Venus and its resonant rose-line.

The most obvious clues were the thirteen cherubs and eight dragons carved into the easternmost pillars, suggestive of the 13:8 Venus-Earth orbital resonance. This connection made sense since the ancient Greeks and Romans considered cherubs the children of Venus while serpent-dragons were also associated with the Venusian goddess Shukra in the Rig-Veda. The discovery in 2010 of two manmade beehives carved into the chapel’s roof seemed to confirm this connection between Rosslyn and Venus, as bees are an ancient fertility symbol for Venus.

Yet, there were more clues that connected Rosslyn with Venus. Pentagrams carved underneath the cherubs suggest the pentagonal rose pattern of Venus while each cherub is shown playing a musical instrument, an obvious reference to the goddess of music. This musical symbolism extends even into the proportions and acoustics of the chapel’s architecture.

For instance, the inner dimensions of the chapel form a double square measuring 36 by 72 feet with a diagonal distance of 80.5 feet that is proportional to the square root of five. Since the famous golden ratio constant is derived from the square root of five and every orbital intersection of the Venus rose-line creates a golden ratio, the chapel seems built to harmonize with Venus. Add to this the fact that the choir loft height of 44.5 feet forms another golden ratio to the total interior length (as 72’ / 44.5’ = 1.618) and it seems hard not to conclude the Lady Chapel was built as a temple to Venus.
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In examining the acoustical properties of the chapel, I calculated that at a room temperature of 20°C, the chapel’s prime resonant frequency is 27 hertz with a wavelength equal to the 72-foot interior length of the chapel. This means that the chapel is naturally tuned to A-422.25 – a tuning known as “classical tuning,” used as the standard reference pitch during the 18th century. This is significant because it happens to be a very natural tuning that can help synchronize the human mind with the Earth and all of nature.
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Not coincidentally, the temperature required to gestate a beehive is 33.72°C (equal to 93.7°F) – the very same temperature required to raise the tuning of Rosslyn up to A-432 or what is known as “universal tuning.” At this hive temperature, singing the right chant and music could push the brain further into the Gamma range, perhaps even inducing what is known as “unity of consciousness.”
Thus, the beehives in the chapel’s roof, the symbolic children of Venus, may have been used as a kind tuning fork to measure the temperature and frequency needed to reunify human consciousness, fertilize the spirit and perhaps “hatch” a soul during funerary rites. It appears the Venus Blueprint not only creates a wonderful anechoic acoustical space to cleanly propagate speech and music but also a psychoacoustical space capable of triggering elevated states of consciousness.
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COHERENCE AT ANY LEVEL IS COHERENCE AT ALL LEVELS.
An orderly arrangement between wave lengths establishes a connection between frequencies and fields. But for this connection to last, it must resonate to all frequencies and fields. This can only be accomplished through the resonate structure of golden mean pathways. a harmonic cascade effect
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The most obvious clues were the thirteen cherubs and eight dragons carved into the easternmost pillars, suggestive of the 13:8 Venus-Earth orbital resonance. This connection made sense since the ancient Greeks and Romans considered cherubs the children of Venus while serpent-dragons were also associated with the Venusian goddess Shukra in the Rig-Veda. The discovery in 2010 of two manmade beehives carved into the chapel’s roof seemed to confirm this connection between Rosslyn and Venus, as bees are an ancient fertility symbol for Venus.
did you know there is a verse in the Quran ( Islam's Sacred Book ) called the Bee ( let you do yourselves the 3 6 9 Pattern )

Surat An-Nahl - The Noble Qur'an - القرآن الكريم it is verse 16 ( HM 7 as in 7 Principles )




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For instance, the inner dimensions of the chapel form a double square measuring 36 by 72 feet with a diagonal distance of 80.5 feet that is proportional to the square root of five. Since the famous golden ratio constant is derived from the square root of five and every orbital intersection of the Venus rose-line creates a golden ratio, the chapel seems built to harmonize with Venus. Add to this the fact that the choir loft height of 44.5 feet forms another golden ratio to the total interior length (as 72’ / 44.5’ = 1.618) and it seems hard not to conclude the Lady Chapel was built as a temple to Venus.
if you look at Tesla and Leedskalnin work The Golden Tractate of Hermes Trismegistus applied to electromagnetism





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Acoustically speaking ( probably also electromagnetically speaking too ) , these dimensions make Rosslyn chapel a natural resonance chamber that propagates sound evenly while suppressing reverb and echo. It does this because of the damping effect of the golden ratio, long used in the design of “anechoic” musical instruments, auditoriums, recording studios and speaker enclosures. As an ideal acoustical damping enclosure, Rosslyn reflects the same damping effect Venus had on Earth during the harmonic formation of the solar system.
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An orderly arrangement between wave lengths establishes a connection between frequencies and fields. But for this connection to last, it must resonate to all frequencies and fields. This can only be accomplished through the resonate structure of golden mean pathways. a harmonic cascade effect
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My Lady d'Arbanville, why do you sleep so still?
I'll wake you tomorrow
and you will be my fill, yes, you will be my fill.

My Lady d'Arbanville why does it grieve me so?
But your heart seems so silent.
Why do you breathe so low, why do you breathe so low,

My Lady d'Arbanville why do you sleep so still?
I'll wake you tomorrow
and you will be my fill, yes, you will be my fill.

My Lady d'Arbanville, you look so cold tonight.
Your lips feel like winter,
your skin has turned to white, your skin has turned to white.

My Lady d'Arbanville, why do you sleep so still?
I'll wake you tomorrow
and you will be my fill, yes, you will be my fill.

La la la la la....

My Lady d'Arbanville why does it grieve me so?
But your heart seems so silent.
Why do you breathe so low, why do you breathe so low,

I loved you my lady, though in your grave you lie,
I'll always be with you
This rose will never die, this rose will never die.

I loved you my lady, though in your grave you lie,
I'll always be with you
This rose will never die, this rose will never die.


one more from an amazing voice




Hallelujah - Leonard Cohen - YouTube

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"Hallelujah"

I've heard there was a secret chord
That David played
, and it pleased the Lord
But you don't really care for music, do you?
It goes like this
The fourth, the fifth
The minor fall, the major lift
The baffled king composing Hallelujah

Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah

Your faith was strong but you needed proof
You saw her bathing on the roof
Her beauty in the moonlight overthrew you
She tied you to a kitchen chair
She broke your throne, and she cut your hair
And from your lips she drew the Hallelujah

Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah

Baby I have been here before
I know this room, I've walked this floor
I used to live alone before I knew you.
I've seen your flag on the marble arch
Love is not a victory march
It's a cold and it's a broken Hallelujah

Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah

There was a time when you let me know
What's really going on below
But now you never show it to me, do you?
And remember when I moved in you
The holy dove was moving too
And every breath we drew was Hallelujah

Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah

Maybe there’s a God above
But all I’ve ever learned from love
Was how to shoot at someone who outdrew you
It’s not a cry you can hear at night
It’s not somebody who has seen the light
It’s a cold and it’s a broken Hallelujah

Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah

You say I took the name in vain
I don't even know the name
But if I did, well, really, what's it to you?
There's a blaze of light in every word
It doesn't matter which you heard
The holy or the broken Hallelujah

Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah

I did my best, it wasn't much
I couldn't feel, so I tried to touch
I've told the truth, I didn't come to fool you
And even though it all went wrong
I'll stand before the Lord of Song
With nothing on my tongue but Hallelujah

Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah


if you feel up to it ............ try to color the voices you hear in your mind .... male red ...... female blue ......
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Fibonacci number - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



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The Fibonacci sequence appears in Indian mathematics, in connection with Sanskrit prosody.[4][9] In the Sanskrit oral tradition, there was much emphasis on how long (L) syllables mix with the short (S), and counting the different patterns of L and S within a given fixed length results in the Fibonacci numbers; the number of patterns that are m short syllables long is the Fibonacci number Fm + 1.[5]

Susantha Goonatilake writes that the development of the Fibonacci sequence "is attributed in part to Pingala (200 BC), later being associated with Virahanka (c. 700 AD), Gopāla (c. 1135), and Hemachandra (c. 1150)".[3] Parmanand Singh cites Pingala's cryptic formula misrau cha ("the two are mixed") and cites scholars who interpret it in context as saying that the cases for m beats (Fm+1) is obtained by adding a [S] to Fm cases and [L] to the Fm−1 cases. He dates Pingala before 450 BCE.[10]

However, the clearest exposition of the series arises in the work of Virahanka (c. 700 AD), whose own work is lost, but is available in a quotation by Gopala (c. 1135):
Variations of two earlier meters [is the variation]... For example, for [a meter of length] four, variations of meters of two [and] three being mixed, five happens. [works out examples 8, 13, 21]... In this way, the process should be followed in all mAtrA-vr.ttas (prosodic combinations).[11]

The series is also discussed by Gopala (before 1135 AD) and by the Jain scholar Hemachandra (c. 1150).

In the West, the Fibonacci sequence first appears in the book Liber Abaci (1202) by Leonardo of Pisa, known as Fibonacci.[2] Fibonacci considers the growth of an idealized (biologically unrealistic) rabbit population, assuming that: a newly born pair of rabbits, one male, one female, are put in a field; rabbits are able to mate at the age of one month so that at the end of its second month a female can produce another pair of rabbits; rabbits never die and a mating pair always produces one new pair (one male, one female) every month from the second month on. The puzzle that Fibonacci posed was: how many pairs will there be in one year?
At the end of the first month, they mate, but there is still only 1 pair.
At the end of the second month the female produces a new pair, so now there are 2 pairs of rabbits in the field.
At the end of the third month, the original female produces a second pair, making 3 pairs in all in the field.
At the end of the fourth month, the original female has produced yet another new pair, the female born two months ago produces her first pair also, making 5 pairs.

At the end of the nth month, the number of pairs of rabbits is equal to the number of new pairs (which is the number of pairs in month n − 2) plus the number of pairs alive last month (n − 1). This is the nth Fibonacci number.[12]

The name "Fibonacci sequence" was first used by the 19th-century number theorist Édouard Lucas.[13]
0 1 1 2 3 5 8 13 21 34 55 89 144 233 377 610

do you think we could come up with a new hidden meaning by just following Nature applied to sacred Books / Poems / Alchemical Treaties

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Fibonacci sequences appear in biological settings,[6] in two consecutive Fibonacci numbers, such as branching in trees, arrangement of leaves on a stem, the fruitlets of a pineapple,[7] the flowering of artichoke, an uncurling fern and the arrangement of a pine cone.[8] In addition, numerous poorly substantiated claims of Fibonacci numbers or golden sections in nature are found in popular sources, e.g., relating to the breeding of rabbits, the seeds on a sunflower, the spirals of shells, and the curve of waves.[49] The Fibonacci numbers are also found in the family tree of honeybees.
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The Old Testament has…
39 books
929 chapters
23,214 verses
593,493 words
Longest book: Psalms
Shortest book: Obadiah (3rd shortest book in the Bible)

The New Testament has…
27 books
260 chapters
7,959 verses
181,253 words
Longest book: Acts
Shortest book in the Bible: 3 John (fewest number of words / 2 John has more words, but one fewer verses.)
5 history books (Acts and the Gospels: Matthew, Mark, Luke, John)
21 letters (epistles)
1 book of prophecy (Revelation)

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There are 114 Surahs or chapters in the Qur'an. Each Surah consists of Ayat or verses. Thus, the 114 Surah's consist of 6000 Ayat.

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According to the Mahabharata itself, the tale is extended from a shorter version of 24,000 verses called simply Bhārata. About 1.8 million words in total, the Mahabharata is roughly ten times the length of the Iliad and Odyssey combined, or about four times the length of the Ramayana



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a fractal construct has an 'efficient function', it has a fractal ergonomy to them, they function on multiple levels and in multiple dimensions:
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Fibonacci sequences appear in biological settings,[6] in two consecutive Fibonacci numbers, such as branching in trees, arrangement of leaves on a stem, the fruitlets of a pineapple,[7] the flowering of artichoke, an uncurling fern and the arrangement of a pine cone.[8] In addition, numerous poorly substantiated claims of Fibonacci numbers or golden sections in nature are found in popular sources, e.g., relating to the breeding of rabbits, the seeds on a sunflower, the spirals of shells, and the curve of waves.[49] The Fibonacci numbers are also found in the family tree of honeybees.
let's take the example of The Quran ( 1 book ) first degree fibonacci ( only the chapters / the second degree would be the verses etc. ..)

There are 114 Surahs or chapters in the Qur'an. Each Surah consists of Ayat or verses. Thus, the 114 Surah's consist of 6000 Ayat.

The Noble Qur'an - القرآن الكريم

1 2 3 5 8 13 21 34 55 89 ( 10 numbers )

1 Al-Fatihah
2 Surah Al-Baqarah (The Cow)
3. Surah Ale-Imran (The Family of Imran)
5. Surah Al-Ma'idah (The Table Spread with Food)
8. Surah Al-Anfal (The Spoils of War)
13. Surah Ar-Ra'd (The Thunder)

21 Surah Al-Anbiyah' (The Prophets)
34. Surah Saba' (Sheba)
55. Surah Ar-Rahman (The Most Gracious)
89. Surah Al-Fajr (The Break of Day or the Dawn)

------------------- let's try book of genesis : 50 chapters Genesis. The Holy Bible: King James Version. Bartleby.com

1 2 3 5 8 13 21 34

1 The Creation
2 Man in the Garden of Eden
3 Man's Disobedie
5 The Descendants of Adam
8 ( No Name given )
13 Abram and Lot Separate
21 The Birth of Isaac
Hagar and Ishmael Sent Away
The Covenant between Abraham and Abimelech
34 The Defilement of Dinah Avenged





The Mahabharata, Book 18: Svargarohanika Parva Index

Book 3: Vana Parva
Book 6: Bhishma Parva
Book 9: Shalya Parva
Book 12: Santi Parva
Book 15: Asramavasika Parva
Book 18: Svargarohanika Parva

with the fibonacci Sequance: 18 books

1 2 3 5 8 13

Book 1: Adi Parva
Book 2: Sabha Parva
Book 3: Vana Parva
Book 5: Udyoga Parva
Book 8: Karna Parva
Book 13: Anusasana Parva




btw: Book 18: Svargarohanika Parva has 6 sections

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ps: told you we only scratched the surface
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would not be fair if we did not play with my fav poem of the moment .... Voluspa ... 66 verses



1 2 3 5 8 13 21 34 55

Poetic Edda/Völuspá

1. «For silence I ask
all children,[1]
great and small,
sons of Heimdallar;
wilt thou, that I, Valfather!
Well recount
ancient history of men,
the first I remember?

2. I remember Jotnar
early born,
those who in old
foster me have;
nine homes I remember,
nine wooded rooms,
wise tree bright
before ground below.

3. In times of old
then Ymir build,
was no sand or sea,
nor gelid waves,
earth existed not,
nor upper heaven,
gap was yawning,
but grass nowhere.

5. Sun warped south,
moons companion,
the right hand
around the heavens rim;
sun knew not
what temples she had,
moon knew not
what power he possessed,
stars knew not
what places they had.

8. With games in the yard
joyous they were,
to them was naught
the lack of gold;
then three there came,
Thuss maidens,
all-powerful,
from Jotunhome.

13. Fili, Kili,
Fundinn, Nali,
Hepti, Vili,
Hanarr, Svíurr,
Billingr, Brúni,
Bildr and Buri,
Frár, Hornbori,
Fregr and Lóni,
Aurvangr, Jari,
Eikinskjaldi.

21. She dispute remember,
the first in the home,
when Gullveig
Geirum supported,
and in Hárs hall
they burn her;
three times burned
the three times born,
often, not seldom,
yet still she lives.

34 . . . . .
. . . . . .
. . . . . .
. . . . . .
Then may Vala
the tie of misery turn,
better-done hard
and tide with guts.

55. Then comes the high
Sigfathers son
Vidarr to slay
the Val-beast;
In Hvedrungs son
his sword pierced
to the heart;
avenged was his father.




Let me know if any comma placement necessary

compare it with the following:

1 The Creation
2 Man in the Garden of Eden
3 Man's Disobedie
5 The Descendants of Adam
8 ( No Name given )
13 Abram and Lot Separate
21 The Birth of Isaac
Hagar and Ishmael Sent Away
The Covenant between Abraham and Abimelech
34 The Defilement of Dinah Avenged
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just a head's up to all the Blues reading ( empath ) as such you are a multiplier ( female pole ) .... if you find yourself surrounded by Red .... you will absorb the underlying redness ( all the negative / shadow vibration ) that most people do not show and multiply it within ....


Gnostic.Org: The Kybalion


One may change his mental vibrations by an effort of Will, in the direction of deliberately fixing the Attention upon a more desirable state. Will directs the Attention, and Attention changes the Vibration. Cultivate the Art of Attention, by means of the Will, and you have solved the secret of the Mastery of Moods and Mental States.

"To destroy an undesirable rate of mental vibration, put into operation the Principle of Polarity and concentrate upon the opposite pole to that which you desire to suppress. Kill out the undesirable by changing its polarity."-The Kybalion.

This is one of the most important of the Hermetic Formulas. It is based upon true scientific principles. We have shown you that a mental state and its opposite were merely the two poles of one thing, and that by Mental Transmutation the polarity might be reversed.



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