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Old 09-15-2011, 11:24 AM
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from:The Legacy of Marcel Vogel

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This is one reason why certain scientific investigations in the area of subtle energies cannot be readily replicated. It is not always a matter of scientific protocol, but a matter of relationship. Unfortunately many scientists would consider this to be some kind of inessential and perhaps bothersome epiphenomena. Although such individuals are scientists, to Marcel, they were technicians attempting to prove what they already thought was true. The true scientist is one who attempts to discover with childlike curiosity. Too often we, all of us, only want to confirm what we already believe.
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also water is influenced by your presence....water has memory
Perhaps it may be useful to expand on a "relationship" with any science, object, or person. My lady sleeps soundly in bed, and I, awake for this night. I am reflecting on the meaning of "relationship" -- not the dictionary definition -- its meaning to me. (This definition/example is simply "true" to me)

We have more complex relationships as time goes on -- and we make decisions relating to that object, science, or person.

If we have negative relationships -- the other person, or we -- tend to impact the other in such a way that we take things too personally, and generally mis-interpert the intent of what was being conveyed. If we hold on to that misinterpertation -- we record a "bad" memory.

The inverse is also true -- if something effects us in a way which makes us more positive, or happy -- we remember "good" memories.

We seem to learn things based on our previous thoughts -- I imagine that our brain is using the same neurons of our previous experience, to interpert the present input.

I don't know if I can explain this without personalizing it -- so I'd like to share an example of calculus class in high school. The teacher always made me laugh -- but I always found homework a drag, and could never get it done if I was discontent. My "experiment" with myself, was to smile and laugh at the calculus book before I ever opened it until I felt like it was a very good friend of mine -- then tried to read its pages.

I learned a lot faster when I thought the book was helping me -- not forcing me to do homework. In light of the feelings I possessed, I was able to help or hinder the pleasantness which I experienced going through the class. Many students made it unpleasant for themselves and complained a lot, instead of provoking the learning for themselves.

I would like to call attention to the bolded words above -- "In light".

(I could not find the exact quote from MM, I apologize)
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"Crystal = frozen light (greek)"
"Crystals are the record in form, of the potential which produced them" -- Russell
If our brains record memories into the liquid crystal, water -- we are forming records of our thoughts. Our previous thoughts seem to function a bit like filters. The filters intercept the carrier waves, and the next thought (where your neurons spark to another neuron, to "fry" a connection into place), would seem to receive the frequency embedded in the carrier signal.

The relationship -- or "track record" which you have localized in your body influences your perception about any given topic. I did not mean to write so much simply to bring about such an obvious conclusion -- so I would like to expand a bit more in a different direction.

Do you think that each person uses the same nervous impulse to motivate their limbs? We might see a similar waveform if we were to attach some sort of sensor to their nervous system -- but I would think that in the range of "psychokinesis" -- that would require a slightly different nervous impulse than simply motivating their individual arm.

In our nervous impulse, we are giving rise to the contraction of our muscle tissue through the water, are we not?. If we did not have a sufficient electrical charge in that impulse, we could not motivate that muscle to the degree in which we intended. The difference in intensity I sense here, is the notion that I "should" do something, versus the act of actually doing it.

At this point in my life, I think -- psychokinesis would begin as a learned talent by learning how your consciousness can impart a charge to the water in your body. Then, learning how you can impart a charge on things outside your body. Learning to increase the intensity, or rate of change of that charge should eventually result in some movement -- but that conclusion is the "fruit" made available by the primary impulse, largely by leaving an "available space" -- sort of like room to breathe. No space/no room to breathe, you don't get that end goal.

I remember reading somewhere (dont remember where, sorry), a story that some initiates in a monastery would have to practice the form of punching, from several meters away from a bucket -- until the water "jumped" out of the bucket. Some could never do it -- some, it took a long time to learn.

Here lies the key difference as to why the track record of thinking "constructively", versus "skeptically" -- a skeptic secretly means they have a previously recorded thought which does not leave "room to breathe" for an outcome. The notion or predisposition of being a skeptic, indicates to me, that their track record says "I don't think this could work" -- hence why they are "unsure" whether something could/would work.
Whereas thinking in a generative or creative manner, will try to exhaust all the possibilities to see how it might work -- offering the entirety of their experience to try to move towards the goal (endpoint) of the desired thought -- whomever the desire came from.

In the worst case, a generative thinker can "see for themselves" -- never allowing someone else's criticism, or limiting thoughts sway them past a point of "interested neutrality".

The relationship to any research, science, or idea, is therefore highly important -- for those who are not at least "neutral" will never "see" what you may be trying to say, what you observe, or even what you might be looking for -- until you extend your record of your thinking, to show them "how you think of it", until that thinking is their own. By extending your thinking to them -- you give them a part of yourself -- as they then also have a that same record of potential in them.

Your thinking can heal, or rectify past experiences of other people by sharing with them your understanding -- so that they better understand it themselves.

Could someone choose to change how they feel about something? Could you change, through explaining or sharing something -- how someone else perceives that thing, or past experience?

Perhaps their past experience is something akin to a recorded "signal" (basic "crystal") -- by explaining it through your "new understanding" -- you are frying different neurons (Read: making different crystals in their brain) so that they can run that primary signal through different potentials (crystals), to attain a different apparent result of the same experience?

Choice/Intent, and understanding, may be a key to mastery of mental transmutation.

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"All matter is crystalic in nature" -- Walter Russell
When we transmute any element into any other element, are we not simply putting that apparent state of matter (apparent effected form of the one substance -- Read: "Base signal") -- through different potentials, to achieve a different apparent result. (I.E transmuting copper into gold)

This might be a little dense, but I appreciate it if you made it this far reading.

Thank you for sharing your truths, MM. Please let me know if anything I am saying is "too far off" from what you are saying. I hope that by sharing my different "signal" or "waveform" of thoughts, that others may view your posts in a different light.

I would hope that what I am thinking is helping to inter-relate our own internal processes, to the processes that also occur outside of ourselves.

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"A true alchemist does not need a lab"

I'm not sure about a "true" alchemist -- because I seem to think that until we "fry" some limiting beliefs into place -- we are all equipped with the general tools (human body).

We also seem to be able to go through the same similar feelings in our lifetime. Our choices, affect which experiences we actually have -- this is aside from the question I wished to ask.

If you understand what I am saying about our brains being complex frequency filters, the carrier signal coming from the rest of our bodies through our feelings or desires -- and you connect it with water having a "memory" -- you would see that our bodies are constantly recording our emotional states, and state shifts. It is for this reason, "my truth" tells me that all humans are on the same "path" -- and that our experiences are constantly "transmuting" the water in our bodies, so that we may all undergo those phase shifts which transform our bodies into a "perfected antennae". The chance of completing this within a single lifetime is mind boggling (but also interesting and attractive).

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All men must make the journey to return to me, but theirs alone is the agony of waiting. -- Walter Russell (Divine Illiad)
The measure in which some of the "great minds" of days gone by, have completed this journey is reflected in their "love" given to the world -- their contributions which have uplifted mankind thus far. I would like to agree MM, to a point -- that knowledge is also a fractal entity -- I also do think it wants to be shared, to those who can understand it. To a similar extent, tools ("a spiritual swiss army knife") also are indifferent of the effects of their use. The effects of it, is up to the understanding of the user to properly use the tools.

If you can mentally transmute a negative experience to positively nourish another human being -- you have shifted its relative potential (shifted their emotional states/perception about the experience). You do this through your own understanding.

You can also think of this like moving the relative position of a spark gap -- charged with (-5000V). It will "jump the gap" size needed for 10,000, if you put a positively charged wire with the pressure of (+5000V). You increased the gap size by understanding the relative differences between moving the different sides (anode/cathode).

With that, your abillity to rectify other's experiences or understandings in a more positive light, is directly related to your measure of understanding their experiences -- which stems from your abillity to understand your own experiences.

It is through understanding its relative potential, in which you are able to identify what to do with that potential.

Here is some of my thinking:
So, How do the state shifts of water naturally occur in our bodies?
More exactly worded, under what potential does the water in our bodies also have those same seven desired phase changes?
More directly said, Under the condition of which emotions, or understandings -- do we need to shift our antenna's through, in order to make the water in our bodies transform into a more liquid crystalline form?

Now -- Here's the kicker for me. Don't read those last questions in words. Remember, the precursors to those words -- the primary meaning which formed those words. I noticed that whenever I asked a question about the water in my body -- I needed to be aware of my entire "antenna" with a great intensity focused in the "present moment."

What if you were to desire to know what those shifts in your body of water were?

I have a hunch that our experiences are already advancing us along this path (transforming into a more crystalline antennae), or degrading our progress from our own ignorance. We must be able to comprehend, and do this -- otherwise I feel I would not be seeking to comprehend, or do it. We have the capicity to do this with our own bodies already.
My reasoning being:
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"As within, so without"
In desiring to know, without articulating the desire into words -- you are shifting your "antennae" into the right potential for receiving the answer. By not articulating it into words, you are not asking through your brain -- you are not asking through the puppet controller to your senses -- you are "giving room to breathe" for the desired thoughts.

It never hurts to have the positivity of a child:
Live curious.
Live happy.
Be kind to your water.

I have found it impractical to "ask" questions of focused intent using "precursor words" while I am in an imbalanced state.
The reason being -- the imbalanced condition which produced them, are reflected in the outcome of the answer.

"Neutral state of resonance" is a perfect state I have found to ask from.

Those answers are usually direct, and related to what I desired to know -- I will usually also find when I am drifting in that neutral bliss throughout my day.

Any joy, or affliction to your body is of your own making.
If you do not hold yourself responsible, or accountable for yourself, you will always be seeking an opposite outside condition of imbalance. Oscillating between opposite extremes to varying degrees.

Putting that accountability outside yourself, does not put you in the state of self control -- it sets you in a position to react to your outside conditions.

If you are not in control of yourself, someone, or something else is. Outside conditions, or other people -- ( very few of which) will formulate a clear intent for you with your best interest at heart.

For this reason, those of us with the capacity to help others -- need to learn to clearly formulate intents to and do it ourselves -- be it for our own emotional sanity to find balance, or for the purpose of self-control using our balance as the fulcrum from which we can express our desires.
(To the point that you could shift the water in your body into a better antenna).

Lastly, I feel that we need to deeply consider the effects of our desires on other people -- If for no other reason, because we will be dealing with the "aftershocks", "echos" -- the thought forms that happen as a response to our intital desire.

I do not think that anything happens by "chance", or that there is anything "random" about this universe.

I think that we have not yet had sufficient understanding to fully comprehend where the CAUSE of our observed EFFECTS stems from.

I'm not saying I understand it completely either, but I'm looking too, and darned it -- not enough people in this world have seen sufficient reason to also seek the cause. We're in this together -- our own ignorance of this exchange making ourselves, or others prosper or suffer.

Thought I'd share my "sufficient reason".


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I am reading through your post petar113507

Very insightful

i think this also applies here, and may help you understand what i see

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It would seem, that if you could control your own thoughts -- you could sympathetically induce similar thoughts in surrounding humans. It seems the greatest control -- is self control. If you could couple self control, with an exact understanding of your surrounding environment -- you could "control" or affect your environment greatly.

Reflecting,
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Thank you petar113507 , I really appreciated your story , and trust me i would not have been able to express myself as well as you have done in this post....


ps: You are already doing it...by just sharing what is within with the without

Change is like The Fibonacci Numbers and the Golden section ; (1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, ..)

it starts with 1 person...then 2.....3......5.....8.....13.....etc

it always starts with one...meaning it always starts with your inner self first (your first number 1 in The Fibonacci series )...then to your outer self (the second one )

(1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, ..)

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That is how you polarize yourself:

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"Mind (as well as metals and elements) may be transmuted from state to state; degree to degree; condition to condition; pole to pole; vibration to vibration."-
The Kybalion.



When you remember a memory/ a souvenir ...did you notice that is comes in two forms...positive or negative...rosy or dark...never gray...

The Principle of Polarity.

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This Principle embodies the truth that "everything is dual"; "everything has two poles"; "everything has its pair of opposites," all of which were old Hermetic axioms. It explains the old paradoxes, that have perplexed so many, which have been stated as follows: "Thesis and antithesis are identical in nature, but different in degree"; "opposites are the same, differing only in degree"; "the pairs of opposites may be reconciles"; "extremes meet"; "everything is and isn't, at the same time"; "all truths are but half-truths"; "every truth is half-false"; "there are two sides to everything," etc., etc., etc. It explains that in everything there are two poles, or opposite aspects, and that "opposites" are really only the two extremes of the same thing, with many varying degrees between them. To illustrate: Heat and Cold, although "opposites," are really the same thing,
think of it this way, right now this is who we are



and this is where we want to be:





You are by nature: a Telestis "one who is aimed"

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Telestis: Greek word from Telos: goal, aim. they were Gaian teologists. totally illuminated by their practice of ecstatic contact with nature. The best definition: one who is aimed. If you are aimed by Gaia, you will go where she sends her arrow.
and thus you should always:
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polish your inner facets before you polish your outer ones , and thus you can fully shine and illuminate with your energy; same as Dr Vogel's Crystal
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If you understand what I am saying about our brains being complex frequency filters, the carrier signal coming from the rest of our bodies through our feelings or desires -- and you connect it with water having a "memory" -- you would see that our bodies are constantly recording our emotional states, and state shifts. It is for this reason, "my truth" tells me that all humans are on the same "path" -- and that our experiences are constantly "transmuting" the water in our bodies, so that we may all undergo those phase shifts which transform our bodies into a "perfected antennae". The chance of completing this within a single lifetime is mind boggling (but also interesting and attractive).
not so complex, if you know where to look

remember principle of correspondence:

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This Principle embodies the truth that there is always a Correspondence between the laws and phenomena of the various planes of Being and Life. The old Hermetic axiom ran in these words: "As above, so below; as below, so above." And the grasping of this Principle gives one the means of solving many a dark paradox, and hidden secret of Nature. There are planes beyond our knowing, but when we apply the Principle of Correspondence to them we are able to understand much that would otherwise be unknowable to us. This Principle is of universal application and manifestation, on the various planes of the material, mental, and spiritual universe-it is an Universal Law
Helmholtz resonance - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Helmholtz resonance is the phenomenon of air resonance in a cavity, such as when one blows across the top of an empty bottle. The name comes from a device created in the 1850s by Hermann von Helmholtz, the "Helmholtz resonator", which he, the author of the classic study of acoustic science, used to identify the various frequencies or musical pitches present in music and other complex sounds


we do the the same: we filter "the various frequencies or musical pitches present in music and other complex sounds that is our world "....Principle of Mentalism: the Universe is all wave
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It never hurts to have the positivity of a child:
Live curious.
Live happy.
Be kind to your water.
I would like to add, and never take yourself too seriously I suck at a lot of other things (that actually feels good typing it)

you are not all knowing, nor perfect and that is the fun part because of your imperfection; you give yourself enough material to laugh at yourself

in other words principle of gender:

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"Gender is in everything; everything has its Masculine and Feminine Principles; Gender manifests on all planes." - The Kybalion.

This Principle embodies the truth that there is GENDER manifested in everything-the Masculine and Feminine Principles ever at work. This is true not only of the Physical Plane, but of the Mental and even the Spiritual Planes
your feminine/creative side is making fun of your male side "the engineer "

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The Masculine Principle of Mind corresponds to the so-called Objective Mind; Conscious Mind; Voluntary Mind; Active Mind, etc. And the Feminine Principle of Mind corresponds to the so-called Subjective Mind; Subconscious Mind; Involuntary Mind; Passive Mind
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Any joy, or affliction to your body is of your own making.
If you do not hold yourself responsible, or accountable for yourself, you will always be seeking an opposite outside condition of imbalance. Oscillating between opposite extremes to varying degrees
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Amen

The Principle of Polarity.

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This Principle embodies the truth that "everything is dual"; "everything has two poles"; "everything has its pair of opposites," all of which were old Hermetic axioms. It explains the old paradoxes, that have perplexed so many, which have been stated as follows: "Thesis and antithesis are identical in nature, but different in degree"; "opposites are the same, differing only in degree"; "the pairs of opposites may be reconciles"; "extremes meet"; "everything is and isn't, at the same time"; "all truths are but half-truths"; "every truth is half-false"; "there are two sides to everything," etc., etc., etc. It explains that in everything there are two poles, or opposite aspects, and that "opposites" are really only the two extremes of the same thing, with many varying degrees between them. To illustrate: Heat and Cold, although "opposites," are really the same thing,
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You are a by nature: a Telestis "one who is aimed"

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Telestis: Greek word from Telos: goal, aim. they were Gaian teologists. totally illuminated by their practice of ecstatic contact with nature. The best definition: one who is aimed. If you are aimed by Gaia, you will go where she sends her arrow.
and thus you should always:
Cornelius Brothers And Sister Rose - Treat Her Like A Lady - YouTube

polish your inner facets before you polish your outer ones , and thus you can fully shine and illuminate with your energy; same as Dr Vogel's Crystal

which should lead you to understand that you need to:


Cornelius Brothers & Sister Rose - Lift your love higher - YouTube


for yourself first, the rest will follow

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You Have an Opportunity: read this post http://www.energeticforum.com/156257-post146.html




You are by nature: a Telestis "one who is aimed"



a little musical triptych won't hurt get the message across

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Now for my French speaking friends, and you guys...this song will take you back to Africa...the soul of this planet

Dailymotion - AMSSETOU - une vidÊo Music



so please Bob Marley - 1979 - 02 - Wake Up And Live - YouTube

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If you do not hold yourself responsible, or accountable for yourself, you will always be seeking an opposite outside condition of imbalance. Oscillating between opposite extremes to varying degrees
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Amen

The Principle of Polarity.

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This Principle embodies the truth that "everything is dual"; "everything has two poles"; "everything has its pair of opposites," all of which were old Hermetic axioms. It explains the old paradoxes, that have perplexed so many, which have been stated as follows: "Thesis and antithesis are identical in nature, but different in degree"; "opposites are the same, differing only in degree"; "the pairs of opposites may be reconciles"; "extremes meet"; "everything is and isn't, at the same time"; "all truths are but half-truths"; "every truth is half-false"; "there are two sides to everything," etc., etc., etc. It explains that in everything there are two poles, or opposite aspects, and that "opposites" are really only the two extremes of the same thing, with many varying degrees between them. To illustrate: Heat and Cold, although "opposites," are really the same thing,
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Apply the 7 principles and you'll walk the middle path...don't be the animals Sir Darwin studied , be Sir Darwin and explore the world surrounding you

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a fractal construct has an 'efficient function', it has a fractal ergonomy to them, they function on multiple levels and in multiple dimensions:
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I would just like to share with you an observation i made recently and it truly make sense :

more on this here, hope this helps : The Golden Tractate of Hermes Trismegistus applied to electromagnetism






apply the 7 principles to the above figure, you'll see they all fit

The Seven Hermetic Principles

THE PRINCIPLE OF MENTALISM.
THE PRINCIPLE OF CORRESPONDENCE.
THE PRINCIPLE OF VIBRATION.
THE PRINCIPLE OF POLARITY.
THE PRINCIPLE OF RHYTHM.
THE PRINCIPLE OF CAUSE AND EFFECT.
THE PRINCIPLE OF GENDER.
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9-6 = 3 so you can replace the 3 in the image by a 6 and a 9 on each side ; I'll post an image

and you end up with a Fractal Image
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The swastika (Sanskrit: स्वस्तिक) is an equilateral cross with its arms bent at right angles, in either right-facing (卐) form or its mirrored left-facing (卍) form. Earliest archaeological evidence of swastika-shaped ornaments dates back to the Indus Valley Civilization of Ancient India as well as Classical Antiquity. Swastikas have also been used in other various ancient civilizations around the world. It remains widely used in Indian Religions, specifically in Hinduism, Buddhism and Jainism, primarily as a sacred symbol of good luck.
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from: Fifth Way Mystery School (great read )

COHERENCE AT ANY LEVEL IS COHERENCE AT AL LEVELS. (and vice versa)
An orderly arrangement between wave lengths establishes a connection between frequencies and fields. But for this connection to last, it must resonate to all frequencies and fields. This can only be accomplished through the resonate structure of golden mean pathways. This harmonic cascade of inter-connected-ness is the structure of our hologramic universe, perceptible as ecstasy. see post: The Brain is an Advanced Fractal Antenna


9) DNA IS THE SEED CRYSTAL OF THE HIGHER DIMENSIONAL LIGHT BODY.
DNA
, a perfect Phi structures crystal connecting long waves and short waves, is a three-dimensional patterns designed to transmit information, in the form of living being, through time and space, the fourth dimension. Its goal seems to be the creation of a fifth dimensional intelligence, one capable of phase-locking with the information of the universe stored in the crystaline coding of the DNA geometry.(see this post: http://www.energeticforum.com/156257-post146.html )
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Change is like The Fibonacci Numbers and the Golden section ; (1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, ..)

it starts with 1 person...then 2.....3......5.....8.....13.....etc

it always starts with one...meaning it always starts with your inner self first (your first number 1 in The Fibonacci series )...then to your outer self (the second one )

(1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, ..)




I would like to expand on that for a bit :

As was written previously:

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it always starts with one...meaning it always starts with your inner self first (your first number 1 in The Fibonacci series )...then to your outer self (the second one )
once 1 (your inner self) = 1 (your outer self )

you move to 2

2 is your partner and 2 (your partner ) = 1 (your inner self ) + 1 (your outer self ) and thus becomes 1 (your equal )

then you move to 3

3 is your children(or close circle ) and 3 = 1 (your partner) + 1 (your inner self ) + 1 (your outer self ) and it becomes 2 (takes two to procreate )

then you move to 5

5 are your Parents and 5 = 2 (your children ) + 1 (your partner) + 1 (your inner self ) + 1 (your outer self )


you see how you affect / are affected by the world around you when there is incoherence

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According to Researcher Clayton Nolte and Schauberger (applicable to coils cw and ccw )

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Left spin is Feminine also called creative Energy , Right Spin is Destructive Energy



VII. The Principle of Gender.

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"Gender is in everything; everything has its Masculine and Feminine Principles; Gender manifests on all planes." - The Kybalion.

This Principle embodies the truth that there is GENDER manifested in everything-the Masculine and Feminine Principles ever at work. This is true not only of the Physical Plane, but of the Mental and even the Spiritual Planes. On the Physical Plane, the Principle manifests as SEX, on the higher planes it takes higher forms, but the Principle is ever the same. No creation, physical, mental or spiritual, is possible without this Principle. An understanding of its laws will throw light on many a subject that has perplexed the minds of men. The Principle of Gender works ever in the direction of generation, regeneration, and creation.

It is also true about left brain and right brain functions

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Here is a nice playlist on structured water featuring Clayton Nolte

Inventor and Author Clayton Nolte Introduces Structured Water - YouTube






compare the 369 image with the geometic shape and the (8p 8n/1p 1p ) position (as if you split the molecule by joining the two ( - ) in the inner circle





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I would like to show you a little comparison based on the research i shared with you guys; i have been thinking about:

Crystal vs Human
piezo / piezo
fractal / fractal
needs water to exist / needs water to exist
when hit with UV emits Infra red / when hit with UV (sun ) emits Infra red



this is just a foretaste of what's to come

Make a Gallium Beating Heart - YouTube

info on quartz and water

The Legacy of Marcel Vogel
John Milewski

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Much of the work covered in this presentation involves Ormus, which is key to growing gold on glass or air. Some researchers have had indications that Ormes can be in black sand magnetitie. It is some intermediate form of matter that a few people working with alchemy have found over the past 25 years. Ormes is a gas. Metal precipitates out as a metal. At higher temperatures you can get iridium & rhodium to precipitate. Silver dissolves in nitric acid. Anything that crystallizes has Ormus in it. We need to have someone with an understanding of conventional chemistry to look at this Ormus.
see also: http://www.energeticforum.com/156257-post146.html

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The Effects of Magnetic Water

The Effects of Magnetic Water
By John V. Milewski

What I think is happening is that the magnetite which is a strong magnetic suscepter is concentrating the earth's magnetic fields into it's cylindrical shape and the shape effect, in turn, sets up a magnetic spiral vortex in the core of the cylinder in which the water is stored. This in turn activates the water with the magnetic energy.



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X Antenna?

MonsieurM,

There is an antenna I came across searching 5 years ago called the "X Antenna". I had pulled it down as a file but with loss of a hard drive over the years and repeatedly looking thorough all the files i have, I have not been able to locate it and thought it may be appropriate on this thread to describe it and maybe someone would know of it or have access to search information related to this antenna as it sure is difficult to get a line on it from within the United States.

Two brothers that were repairmen for commercial radio stations.
They would go out and repair radio antennas and equipment.
They came up with an antenna they called the "X Antenna" as it was in the configuration of an "X".
From what I remember, a 5,000 watt transmission would be like putting out a 50,000 transmission using this special "X Antenna".

Thanks for any help locating this,

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IndianaBoys ; I will look for it

...in the meantime

I could not help but share with you Rod's Post


watch the vid, inspiring

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this was more relevant to use than the site its on.

The Greatest Speech Ever Made - YouTube

I cut the words spoken by the narrator in the video.

The video is worth seeing because its Hitler speaking . Charlie Chaplin.

It could be a better world. If we learn to love each other.

Hope... I'm sorry but I don't want to be an Emperor - that's not my business - I don't want to rule or conquer anyone. I should like to help everyone if possible, Christian, Muslim, Jew, Hindu, gentile, black man, white. We all want to help one another, human beings are like that.

We all want to live by each other's happiness, not by each other's misery. We don't want to hate and despise one another. In this world there is room for everyone and the earth is rich and can provide for everyone.

The way of life can be free and beautiful.

But we have lost the way.

Greed has poisoned men's souls - has barricaded the world with hate; has goose-stepped us into misery and bloodshed.

We have developed speed but we have shut ourselves in: machinery that gives abundance has left us in want. Our knowledge has made us cynical, our cleverness hard and unkind. We think too much and feel too little: More than machinery we need humanity; More than cleverness we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost.

The aeroplane and the radio have brought us closer together. The very nature of these inventions cries out for the goodness in men, cries out for universal brotherhood for the unity of us all. Even now my voice is reaching millions throughout the world, millions of despairing men, women and little children, victims of a system that makes men torture and imprison innocent people. To those who can hear me I say "Do not despair".

The misery that is now upon us is but the passing of greed, the bitterness of men who fear the way of human progress: the hate of men will pass and dictators die and the power they took from the people, will return to the people and so long as men die [now] liberty will never perish...

Soldiers - don't give yourselves to brutes, men who despise you and enslave you - who regiment your lives, tell you what to do, what to think and what to feel, who drill you, diet you, treat you as cattle, as cannon fodder.

Don't give yourselves to these unnatural men, machine men, with machine minds and machine hearts. You are not machines. You are not cattle. You are men. You have the love of humanity in your hearts. You don't hate - only the unloved hate. Only the unloved and the unnatural. Soldiers - don't fight for slavery, fight for liberty.

In the seventeenth chapter of Saint Luke it is written " the kingdom of God is within man " - not one man, nor a group of men - but in all men - in you, the people.

You the people have the power, the power to create machines, the power to create happiness. You the people have the power to make life free and beautiful, to make this life a wonderful adventure. Then in the name of democracy let's use that power - let us all unite. Let us fight for a new world, a decent world that will give men a chance to work, that will give you the future and old age and security. By the promise of these things, brutes have risen to power, but they lie. They do not fulfil their promise, they never will. Dictators free themselves but they enslave the people. Now let us fight to fulfil that promise. Let us fight to free the world, to do away with national barriers, do away with greed, with hate and intolerance. Let us fight for a world of reason, a world where science and progress will lead to all men's happiness.

Soldiers - in the name of democracy, let us all unite!

Look up! Look up! The clouds are lifting - the sun is breaking through. We are coming out of the darkness into the light. We are coming into a new world. A kind new world where men will rise above their hate and brutality.

The soul of man has been given wings - and at last he is beginning to fly. He is flying into the rainbow - into the light of hope - into the future, that glorious future that belongs to you, to me and to all of us. Look up. Look up."

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did you check Rex Research: suppressed, dormant,emerging unconventional alternative technologies: Free energy, Over-Unity, Antigravity, Inventions, Alchemy, Transmutation, Cannabis Hemp Marijuana, Magnet motors, Alternative Therapies"


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ģ Antennas : BRITTEN : Antenna ** Atmospheric / RF Electricity Collectors ** CORNWELL : Microwave Phenomena ** Elemental Rod Generator / EM Energy Receiver ** FANTUZZI : Energy Accumulator ** GIBBS : HyperDimensional Resonator ** GRANDICS : Pyramid Electrostatic-DC Generator ** GUILLOT : Atmospheric Electric Generator ** HART : EH Antenna ** HATELY / KABBARI : X-Field Antenna ** MINTO : Hydronic Transmitter ** NIEPER : Shielding-G ** OGNYANOV : Electric Power Pack ** ORLANDO : Atmospheric Electrical Generator ** POMERLEAU : Free Energy Coils ** Radiesthesia Patents **ROGERS : Antenna ** SPRINK : Space Activator ** SQUIER : Antenna ** STOCKMAN : RF / Microwave Motors ** TATE : Ambient Power Module ** TRAWOEGER : Pyramid Electric Generator ** VINCENT : Distributed Load Antenna ** WALTON : Radar
Maurice Hately, Fathi Kabbary, X-Field Antenna,US Patent 5,155,495





I did mention this Antenna in the 3D electromagnetic field thread

You know with all the information gathered you could review all the inventions posted in rexresearch and actually by just using the 639 principle; most are explainable

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you guys now are more informed with all the info posted here; please listen to this show:

Red Ice radio - 18.9.2011 - Frequency Changes & Higher Unified Field Reality - YouTube

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The Effects of Magnetic Water
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What I think is happening is that the magnetite which is a strong magnetic suscepter is concentrating the earth's magnetic fields into it's cylindrical shape and the shape effect, in turn, sets up a magnetic spiral vortex in the core of the cylinder in which the water is stored. This in turn activates the water with the magnetic energy.



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Thanks IndianaBoys for the info, reading it right now
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The Effects of Magnetic Water

The Effects of Magnetic Water
By John V. Milewski

What I think is happening is that the magnetite which is a strong magnetic suscepter is concentrating the earth's magnetic fields into it's cylindrical shape and the shape effect, in turn, sets up a magnetic spiral vortex in the core of the cylinder in which the water is stored. This in turn activates the water with the magnetic energy.





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I posted this in this thread The Golden Tractate of Hermes Trismegistus applied to electromagnetism could work as well with magnetite

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the beauty of this setup is that you can use a magnetic stirrer, watch the following vid


Homemade Magnetic stirrer - YouTube

note: this set up is also good for water desinfection (use copper for the ball )




Magnetite is in the isometric crystal system where the crystal axes are the same length and at right angles to each other.

Magnetite: Magnetite mineral information and data.

now we have a fractal system, i like the sound of that, thank you IndianaBoys for the info

The Isometric Crystal System







once again all the element present in the Ankh Set up are present in the Peter Davey setup

the Egg
The Coil / Ring (i would recommend quartz ring coated with mica or ceramic coil )
a Pole
Water one of its properties is memory
the ball

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note: the quartz container should be filled with magnetite and dead sea salt + water; vortex with magnetic stirrer

wam bam thank you ma'am ...you got magnetized water enhance by quartz and dead sea salt UV /Ormus

the drinkable water is in the (round is for copper and egg shaped for quartz container) the copper container

much better video:

A do it yourself Stir-plate - YouTube

you could use a crystal wine glass for the quartz container


Wine glass - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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High quality wine glasses are often made of lead crystal. Lead crystal glasses' advantages are not only primarily aesthetic. One factor of lead crystal is it is generally considered to have a higher index of refraction, thus changing the effect of light passing through them. Lead crystal is also rougher than glass on a microscopic level, allowing wine in the glass to breathe more efficiently when swirled in the bowl. They are also heavier. Using lead in the crystal matrix also offers several advantages in the material's workability during production. Wine glasses are generally not colored or frosted as this would impede the appreciation of its colour. An exception to this rule is the hock glass.
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The brilliance of lead crystal relies on the high refractive index caused by the lead content. Ordinary glass has a refractive index of n = 1.5, while the addition of lead produces a range up to 1.7.[1] This heightened refractive index also correlates with increased dispersion, which measures the degree to which a medium separates light into its component spectra, as in a prism.
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note: the water mixture in the wine glass is not for drinking...it is for structuring water; but you could dilute it in water and use it on plants...they'll love it (see Electro-Culture )

note: the quartz container should be filled with magnetite and dead sea salt + water; vortex with magnetic stirrer

wam bam thank you ma'am ...you got magnetized water enhance by quartz and dead sea salt UV /Ormus



Copper Ball Float this is a small one

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The subject I am about to relate to you, only describes one dimension of the All, that is the Universe we live in...

According to the Kybalion,Legends, Myth...The universe is the Creation of The All.

If you follow the 7 Principles of the Kybalion from 1 to 7 in that order:

I. THE PRINCIPLE OF MENTALISM.
II. THE PRINCIPLE OF CORRESPONDENCE.
III. THE PRINCIPLE OF VIBRATION.
lV. THE PRINCIPLE OF POLARITY.
V. THE PRINCIPLE OF RHYTHM.
VI. THE PRINCIPLE OF CAUSE AND EFFECT.
VII. THE PRINCIPLE OF GENDER.


note: A fractal Construct takes the shape you desire it too be (ie: analogy http://www.energeticforum.com/154488-post331.html )

you realize (watch the vid ) that the universe is a reflection of your brain and vice versa...

Contact Opening Scene - YouTube

From that statement; what do we know about the brain...go to post# 1








Learn to travel between planes

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don't be presumptuous to think the universe you live in is the All, It would be the same as if I said one of your neurones is you...

The All is by definition infinite even in its dimensions...in All
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WATER IN THE UNIVERSE

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Let's talk about you and some visual cues that will show you , that you are but the result of 6 3 9

exercise of observation:

Take both your hands, make 2 fists with your hand and connect them ...observe

pay attention to the flow...what do you see now


There are two primary ways of knowing reality:

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1. The rational, deductive, argumentative, intellectual thinking that is accepted by the science and our patriarchal Western culture. The alchemists called this Solar Consciousness and assigned it many code words, such as the Sun, Sulfur, the King, the Father, Spirit, and ultimately, the One Mind of the universe. This involves left-brain activity like linear thought, schematics, formula, arguments and logic.

2. The intuitive way of thinking, also called intelligence of the heart, a non-linear, image-driven way of thinking that is an accepted tool of the arts and religion. The alchemists called the other way of knowing Lunar Consciousness. Among its many symbols are the Moon, Mercury, the Queen, the Holy Ghost, Soul, and ultimately, the One Thing of the universe. This involves right-brain activity dealing with drawings, paintings, mandalas, symbols, music, and meditation.
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