First off let me apologize for the delay in getting this posted.

I have been on and off the phone/emails all day today with PATHS Home Office.

Before I posted the data and comments they wanted to do some testing and have some input on the comments. (There are several accomplished TRV'ers on the PATHS staff).

Before reading the following Report, please read the Intro at:

Uh Oh...First installment of TRV...

Report

The following data is arranged in chronological order of how it was downloaded. It goes from General to Specific. There are headings of the subjects that were addressed according to TRV Structure and Target Cue.

The data addressing what PATHS, S.A. can do to increase LSR's postive response to PATHS Modules is excluded from this public report. This data will be implemented over the next couple of months and will assuredly help those that are reporting little or no benefit to achieve a break through.

The cue and resulting data specifically targeted those that report little or no effect from PATHS Modules. That means that those that do not respond as fast as some others, but still respond, are not the primary subject of the following data.

Each color represents one of the 5 different TRV’ers that worked this target. The data is culled from over 200 pages of TRV session data. The only data that is included below is corroborated, therefore you can know that it is accurate.

WARNING: Do not try and read the following information without first reading the link above on how to understand TRV data!


General data collected during target aquisition:

Bouncing off, trying to get through but cannot penetrate, open but closed off, subconscious, deny,

Fear, squirming, resisting, leave me alone, consuming fear, closed off, not getting through, yes yes really no no, closed circuit, impeding, not taking it in,

inside the noggin is the problem, seemingly unknowing, turmoil,

Frustrated, kind of melancholy, thinking it will come, afraid, flip flopped, confused, feeling isolated,

hesitant and moody, vexed and quarrrelsome, the urge to run away but nowhere to go, hidden from view, clinging to something, looking this way and that way, protect me!

All the above data was just misc. info gathered as the TRV'er was honing in on the key to the target...Why do some people report little or no effect from using PATHS Modules.


List of reasons why:

running silent, don't realize it, blocked to admitting, talent for denial, like in defense mode, habitual, resisting the efforts, like heels dug in and don't know it, buried box, like metal is here deflecting something, like hyper defensive,

thoughts not getting through, whatever they say-it's the other way, blocked off, signal line can't get through defenses, like running scared, just not open, closed off area, like cordoned off, won't go anywhere and want it that way, stubborn, they want to but are afraid, all blocked in, looking for another way-anyway but change-others should change, excrutiating fear of change, looking for way to avoid blame

subconscious is illogical, subversive to work, work and subconscious are opposite, wants to maintain know current direction

look at their energy inside, experience and way raised has to do with response, deep inner structure, knee jerks from the original source, reaction to things automatically or autonomically, deeply buried central make-up wants protection, fear of blame,

one "catch" after another - like a series of traps, a counter-attack, tiff, like the walls of a castle, stone-walled, like a sudden stop at a fence, stalemate, the outward display you see is very deceptive; it is a deliberate deception, just too many fences, like always out of reach, like a receeding horizon, People are in this deep dark place and are wedded to it, it is like they are walking against a heavy flow of water, stubborn in resisting, bogged down, barely moving, social things power the issue, the power of psychology, of the personal mind and even more to the point, the power is two-fold 1 - Love and 2 - Respect. These two are found in the one last place in each human

COMMENTS on above data which is about the subconscious of persons:

Subjects appear to hold onto good or bad traits. There is a fear in letting go of what works for them, whether it is positive or negative. A known bad trait is better than an unknown trait that may in the end be positive.

When change is suggested the subconscious in some is sometimes frozen, like a deer in headlights, afraid to act, scared to move.

A person who does not currently appear to be responding actually is responding, with defense. Somewhere there is an unwillingness to change. While they don’t see changes, there is a formidable battle going on in their mind between the subconscious that wants to keep current negative traits, and the influx of new positive traits.

The subject is being betrayed, by themselves. While consciously they want change, another part of them is resting in the fear of that change and opts for the sameness. Therefore they are put in a deceptive type mode, with an outer attitude of wanting change, but an inner attitude of fighting it.

Subject exhibits lack of compliance with possible changes for the better. Is more at ease with what is known. For these subjects, tried and true beats the risk of something different.

PATHS is already working with the TRV data on what they can do to increase positive response to the PATHS Modules.

What can individuals do to experience better results:

need a deep arrow to penetrate and open one focused hole in subconscious, like a bullet to pin point the area for penetration, one direct targeting, simplify and concentrate one thing to open an area for later larger insertion, pressure point to submit, this brings about general release to pressure,

look learn like, just take a chance, look for a possibility, an opening, the slightest hint that there is a crack-an opening-take it, break out of mold

concentrate on a simple thing, slow it down, be ready willing and able, take the reins and make it so, have a mindset of "willing" instead of "will it", wake up, make thoughts good, check what you are doing, what you are thinking,

bring into focus one thing you want, need to let go and trust,

resist the pressure to back down or withdraw, you read, you know, you believe, you do, find that one strong reference

Comments on above data regarding what individual can do:

Focus on one thing, a simple thing, (not even an entire module, but just one facet of one module) then work consciously to break through your subconscious resistance to change in that one simple area. Take the slightest opening/improvement and capitalize on it.

OVERALL COMMENTS ON DATA:

The subconscious is very strong, and obviously some individuals subconscious is so strongly motivated to maintain the status quo that it can literally resist all current PATHS instructions.

This is a powerful person that can do this. However, the power of the subconscious is NOT serving the conscious desires of the individual. There is no blame in this.

One of the tasks of the subconscious is to keep the person safe, yet since the subconscious cannot make judgements on what is best, it defaults to whatever is going on now. It "says" the status quo has kept me alive to this point, so I will just keep doing it. Of course this is counter-productive to the conscious desire to grow.

Fortunately there was a good amount of corroborated data on what PATHS, S.A. can do to generate instructions that will break the subconscious stubborn hold on the status quo.

That, coupled with the strategy of the individual to focus on one pin-pointed area, doing all they can consciously to find the tiniest bit of improvement and then exploit that into a larger release, will help unblock the dam.

PATHS, S.A. will be announcing a program specifically for situations like this within the next 10 days. They have already begun testing.

Hi Kevin

Very interesting.

I do hope PATHS acts quickly on this as my husband will only stay on the program till the end of this month. He says that he will have tried it a full 2 months and if things haven't changed by then they won't.

There seem to be a few of us LSR about at present.
Maybe we should register somewhere so PATHS can track us easier.

Really, I haven't wanted to focus on the lack of results from PATHS so haven't mentioned it around, just kept on reading all the posts and envying everyones positive results.

Also Kevin can you clarify what you mean by by this statement,give an example if you can....thanks....

.......Focus on one thing, a simple thing, (not even an entire module, but just one facet of one module) then work consciously to break through your subconscious resistance to change in that one simple area.....
Forever Grateful^O^

WOW, Kevin, that is amazing information. The information that was TRV'd makes complete sense, when you look at why it doesn't work as quickly for some is because of the strong resistance our subconcious mind has set up. On the outside you are willing, but on the inside you are not.

This is also proof that if anyone questions that Paths can "brainwash" you it can't. Your subconcious mind will only allow what you think is good for you. This is really amazing!

So are you saying this new module is only for people who have had "No" benefit from Paths or limited benefit from certain modules?

I have had very limited results from the "shed pounds". It doesn't really surprize me that it didn't work to the extent it did for other people because I don't have alot of weight to lose ( just the stubborn 10 lbs), and I had always considered myself to be within my healthy weight range...my weight even after 4 kids has only fluctuated about 10 lbs. I also have a pretty healthy diet. So it was not as if I needed a total overhaul. At the same time, I really wanted this shed pounds module to work....just so I could lose the 10 lbs. I am now on the "ultimate body" as per Pamela's instructions...I just want to add Pamela has been so great helping me...she offers great advice....so I am anticipating more muscle to lose the weight.

Thank you for sharing this info!! I still can't beleive how lucky I am to have found Paths and everyone here!!

Hi Kevin

I have no idea why, but I am sitting here crying my eyes out reading this. I knew for sure the word STUBBORN would come up, well hell how else would you describe smokers.........but that is just a small part of it........some of that other stuff was so confronting to me........

The subconscious is very strong, and obviously some individuals subconscious is so strongly motivated to maintain the status quo that it can literally resist all current PATHS instructions.

This is a powerful person that can do this. However, the power of the subconscious is NOT serving the conscious desires of the individual. There is no blame in this.

One of the tasks of the subconscious is to keep the person safe, yet since the subconscious cannot make judgements on what is best, it defaults to whatever is going on now. It "says" the status quo has kept me alive to this point, so I will just keep doing it. Of course this is counter-productive to the conscious desire to grow.

Hey when PATHS come up with this TRV module I for one will be switching one of mine for sure......oh yeah baby I WILL

I feel somehow like people have been saying do this, do that, meditate, focus your thoughts, go back and imagine how you felt when you emerged from your mother's womb........all that other stuff (well not quite but you get the drift), like somehow we didn't want to get it and were blocking ourselves on purpose.........what's that all about? Of COURSE we wanted to get it.........else we wouldn't be here wanting to be like the others who do........ we would be sitting at home knitting scarves and not giving a **** that has sometimes pissed me off big time, and I know that I am more vocal than some other LSR's but that doesn't matter does it? I am free to say what I feel....not likely I am going to meet you down at my local supermarket is it?? THAT feeling like there is something wrong with us.........but there is nothing wrong with us..........we are just different.......and that's OK. We are were we are supposed to be..........and when PATHS kick in for us LSR's we are gonna get it like no others LOL!! Maybe we won't get to Vegas this time but we will be at the next PATHS meeting kicking ass for sure!!

Take Care Kevin

And I want to thank you sooo much all of you TRV people for taking the time and trouble to help us LSR's to see why we are just not getting it.....maybe Pammie and Gracie can give you a BIG extra hug on our behalf in Las Vegas, well I am sure they will have no hesitation but only in a ladylike way you understand LOL!!

Barb xx

Hi Kevin,

Thank you for that invaluable information

To echo Mya
.......Focus on one thing, a simple thing, (not even an entire module, but just one facet of one module) then work consciously to break through your subconscious resistance to change in that one simple area.....

If you have any further guidance from your experience on how best to go about this then it would be appreciated.

The general gist I get from it is to try and focus on one thing that contradicts a currently non-beneficial belief and to expand upon that.

But more examples from yourself or PATHS would be very helpful

Many thanks
Alan

hi kevin and thanks to all the TRVers,
i suspected resistance to change.....however i had no idea how that worked.
Nadine,
hi, thanks for your truth about the 'shed the pounds' mod, cuz i was considering it for future use. i have about 20 pounds i'd preffer gone, but i don't think i am unhealthy though....probably just inactive...

ya the whole thing about the subconsciouse protecting us makes alot of sense....and i believe that we are only given what we can handle too...Paths seems to give us more to work with in the area of change and self-help, and the rest is when we are ready to take in the info i guess....
i believe that i am HSR, however i am suprised that i have had such quick results....with the mod's i'm currently on anyways.....
So, my question is this....if there is a way to gently bypass the subconsciouse protection, then wuld it be quite traumatizing to experience what our soul/spirit/subconsciouse is allowing us to exsperience as we are ready or can handle, (althoght at times for me, it doesn't feel like i can handle alot of it) aren't we set up this way with our subconscious for a reason?
i just write this, cuz i don't paticularily like change, although i am aware of the many aspects and areas that need to change in order to achieve the things i desire or have the things and experiences i want....i have practiced honesty, openmindedness, and willingness...which as an acronym says H.O.W.....so when things baffle me or when i don't know what to do, or like something etc. i ask the universe HOW instead of WHY, and this does seem to relieve me of some of those blocks....
i guess i may have wrote a couple of things that don't give to well together...just my thought process
I ask and therefore i recieve.
my understanding that it is not something that we are concsious about that is happening with the LSR's and the HSR's...is that correct????

thanks again kevin...grateful...and excited to learn TRV myself....in time of course....love and light...Adrienne

As humans, there are two main things that our identity is concerned with. Survival and Preservation and this comes out so clearly in the trv data. This isn't a bad thing because we wouldn't live very long if this wasn't so.

I would be willing to bet that from 16-22 years old, I would have a much tougher time seeing results from PATHS as I do not because of what was going on in my life at that time.

I'm happy to see that a module will be developed to help people having trouble experiencing benefits make a breakthrough.

Me too Ann, BUT maybe it will just be a short term thing for us LSR's until the PATHS kicks in for us then we can chop and change and fiddle around with our modules just like everybody else and get results after a day or two or even ten, not MONTHS of zilch

Hey just think if we can swap just one module to the new one, after a while, we too will be flirting and fluffing up our hair like Pammie and wiggling those high perky butts of ours across the dance floor

We will be filled with soo much love and gratitude like our Grace We will be filled with amazing feelings just getting it like Illusions, Chans, Pamela V-S, Angela, Mary, Kevin and of course Aaron and all those others, we will be the future graduates (you, me, Mya, her hubby, Kevs and Alan too) of Pammies flirtation school and show them how LSR's can kick ass too at the next meeting

I, for one, can't wait and don't care what module I swap as long as I "get" it in the end, then watch out world

OOOooh I can feel an eyelash fluttering, fluffing hair, sashaying across the dance floor looking for a Mint Julep moment coming up in anticipation!!

Barb xx

What is a Mint Julep anyways LOL!!

Hi Ann and other LSR's...........I emailed to PATHS support team after reading Kevin's post and said I wanted to swap one of my modules ASAP after they had done working on Kevins TRV thingie........just got this reply:

Hi Barbara!

We are going to be making an announcement in the forum in the next 48
hours. You will not have to switch out one of your modules. This is
going to be a free thing we do for those that are reporting little/no
results.

Happiness and Health,

Team Support
PATHS, S.A.
www.energeticforum.com

YAAAAYYYYYY!!!!
Barb xx

Hye Mya

I just know you will, us LSR's have so much catching up to do we will just EXPLODE like fireworks LOL!!

I am just sooo happy KNOWING a solution for us LSR's is coming



Barb xx

Hi everyone, I was not surprised with Keven's results from TRVing. My theme song has always been "Don't tell me what to do, Don't tell me what to say" come on now everyone sing. Being stubborn can be good too. I have stuck it out with Paths saying dammit, I will get the results I want from Paths. And now I will, see how powerful I am. Ruth

Hi Barbara,Thanks for that. I think that deserves a new smilie.

Best regards
Alan

Hey Ruth and Alan

"Don't tell me what to do, Don't tell me what to say"

This has been my theme tune too for a long time too LOL!! There are MANY, MANY reasons why this has served us well over the years.......but it doesn't matter anymore 'cos PATHS is gonna deliver us the goodies REAL SOON and we will be dancing and singing and flirting and being in a state of gratitude and immense LURVE just like the other HSR's - WOOOOPPEEEE...........

I really do believe in the Power Of Love............and even if PATHS hasn't kicked in for us YET I have always, always felt the Power Of Love from the other PATHS users here and on PI PATHS............

YouTube - Power of Love by Luther Vandross

Barb xx

You will not have to switch out one of your modules. This is
going to be a free thing we do for those that are reporting little/no
results.




YaaaaaaaaaHooooooooooooo!!!!!!

Thanks, Barb!! That's FANTASTIC news!!

Wouldn't it be a wonderful bonus if when the new 'fix' kicks in, we really see HUGE results because its like a door that we've been trying to push open that finally budges and then all those PATHS instructions not only flood in, but start creating results, too?!!

Yipppppppeeeeeeeeeee!!!!! I can't wait!!

Ann

Hi Kevin,

I am so HAPPY AND GRATEFUL NOW THAT we have this FABULOUS new information, and that Paths is going to have the instructions ready in the next 48 hours!!

As I read the TRV'd information I was so thrilled because it is also in line with what I first do when I work on someone with my Chinese Energetic Medicine! I ALWAYS ALWAYS make these initial "corrections" to prepare them for accepting the desired results! They are:

Readiness, openness, and receptiveness

Eliminate, free, independence, release, protected

Transcend

Enter

Inner to outer

Outer to inner

Beyond inner to outer

Beyond outer to inner

Integration of the past, present, and future

Beyond space and time

In the transcendent state

I am

Able, willing, ready, deserving, committed, neutral association

See it, believe it, expect it, imagine it

Imagination to Reality

To emerge and ascend




What's most amazing is that let's say for example I wanted to eliminate a pain in a person's shoulder; if I did not "test" first for willingness the "corrections" would not work. They have to be "strong" for all of these things before any results are obtained!

ABLE, WILLING, READY and DESERVING etc, are EXTREMELY essential before anyone can get any results with CEM. It does seem to be in alignment with what you have TRV'd and this makes me very HAPPY!!

Thank you so much for doing this fantastic work!!! You have helped so many people. And now as Barb has said so beautifully:

"OOOooh I can feel an eyelash fluttering, fluffing hair, sashaying across the dance floor looking for a Mint Julep moment coming up in anticipation!!"


I want to be there with you Barb having a Mint Julep too!!! LIFE IS ABSOLUTELY FABULOUS!!

Hi Grace I am not going to be at Vegas this time around, BUT if this PATHS thing kicks in for us LSR's like I know it will VERY SOON, howzabout meeting up at the next venue...............I don't know about Mint Juleps though.......... I was thinking somewhere a bit more in the middle for all us..........how about Hawaii?? Still in the USA, so you don't need passports and currency exchanges but still close enough for those of us downunder

I have only been there 5 times before so am due for a re-visit real soon Don't know about Mint Juleps, but you can buy the Pina Colada mix at the ABC stores, just mix with a bottle of your duty free Bacardi, shove a bit of pineapple on the glass, bung in a straw and AAAALLLLLOOOOHHHHAAA!! I love the climate there and the fact you can go into Woolies and buy cosmetics like Max Factor and Revlon just off the shelves not to mention the Polynesian cultural side of things.....

I am feeling soooo positive after this whole conversation with Kevin like things are gonna be moving for us lot in the next 10 days or so, finally we have a chance to get to the levels of you guys

Now I really need to lose some weight to fit into me coconut shell bra and grass skirt, don't wanna be one of those old mamma's wearing a muu muu.......LOL!!!

Hey maybe we can persuade Jessica to teach some of her Hawaiian dance moves for us.......

These are actually Tahitian dancers, but I find the drums a bit more stimulating and exciting than the gentle Hawaiian dancing...........turn the music up and PRACTICE LOL!!! Some of you BIG BOYS better get practising too (and have a chest wax) LOL!!

Grace you already have the hair all you need now are the booty moves!! I swear I saw Pammy up the back row there, pretending she was too shy to come out and strut her stuff!!

YouTube - Les Grands girls


Love Barb xx

Hey Barb!

Finally!

I know you have been waiting a long time for this. Your stubborness in sticking with it, reminding me, and continually ringing the bell that something is amiss has finally borne fruit.

I would have never thought that the data we got was what would have turned up. I just did not believe that anyone could completely block the PATHS instructions. But you were exactly right!

But like "they" say, identifying the problem is 90% of the solution. So, thanks in BIG PART to you the problem has been identified and is being worked on.

I am confident that with the new thing that PATHS is doing, combined with your efforts as outlined in the TRV data, that you will soon be experiencing a break through.

A word of encouragement. If there was no way for PATHS to work on certain individuals, that would have come up in the TRV data.

I have done MANY TRV sessions where there was no solution to the situation being TRV'd. And the data would show that.

In this case it did NOT show that there was no solution, but very clearly laid out what the problem was and what the solution to it is.




YEAH FOR BARB!!!

That is very encouraging news indeed! And yeah, yay for Barb!

Aw shucks you will be making me blush

I don't know about persistence Ann some would call it nagging LOL!! Kevin very politely called it ringing the bell!!

I bet some of those PATHS customer service team members and Aaron will be glad they have heard the last from me too ha ha!!

You see I didn't understand WHY some people got it and others didn't, not even a smidgin after a long time. It wasn't like all those people getting it were some kind of spiritual guru types like the Dalai Lama or Mother Theresa or somebody, for the most part they were and are just "ordinary" people like you and I finding our way along on our own spiritual path.........some a lot further along maybe, but still.....that didn't seem to be a valid enough reason for PATHS not kicking in. I have listened with my headphones on so loud trying to get the stuff to sink into my THICK SKULL etc LOL!! I must have done PATHS in as many ways possible as there are!! And I tell you I have taken that much Spirulina some days it's a wonder I wasn't breathing out green air!!

My niece is always telling me that I am very curious as I always ask questions about this, that and the other!! I have an insatiable desire for knowledge.........Gemini's are like that

Looks like it has paid off eh?

Oh Ann and all you other LSR's I am soooo flipping excited!!! It's like being a kid counting down the days until you wake up on Christmas morning and Santa has been and left you all these goodies under the tree.

I will be counting how many sleeps from tonight LOL!!!

SO THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU KEVIN for not ignoring my ringing bell!!

Barb xx

Hi,I would like to echo that too

Many thanks
Alan

Hi,I'm a Leo

Best regards
Alan

Oh, My Precious Barb,

I must also say YEAH FOR BARB! Darling, I am so in awe of you I can hardly put it into the correct words (imagine that?), but I am going to try....

The thing is....We all have felt your frustration through these past months as you witnessed many of us experience the fabulous benefits of PATH and watched while we danced through the threads here and on PI like giddy children on a summer's day.... Wow...It must have made you CRAZY... Yet through it all, you always showed us your honesty, your intelligence, your integrity, your sensitivity, your sense of humor and, of course, your Compassion and Love.... And not once, Not Once, my Dearest Barb, did you EVER show any sign of resentment.... You are SO filled with Light and Love and I am honored to call you my friend....

Gracie and I have often commented to each other that when PATHS finally works it magic on you, YOU will be the one who will spread light on the world more than any of us! And already the wheels are in motion...I intuit that all of this is because of YOU and look at how PERFECT it all is! I often say and I truly believe that "Everything that happens, happens as it should" and Bless what IS....

Honey...It won't be long now before you will join the rest of us "children" in the sun-dappled, green meadow as we dance and sing and flirt and tease and share and learn and love and laugh.... Keep an eye out for me as you stand at the edge of that meadow in the shadow of the trees....You've been hanging out there far too long now with that look of longing in your eyes.... Soon, Soon, my Sweet One....You will be seeing me rushing towards you, once again, with my hand stretched out ready for you to grab onto.... and this time, you will reach out and hold fast to mine, and together, we will rush out into the sunshine laughing and giggling like school-girls.... Get your play clothes on, my Beauty...It's time to party!

I LOVE You Barb, and I Love all the rest of my Dear LSR Lovies who will also be joining us in the meadow to experience this joy and wonder...I CANNOT WAIT to meet you there! MUAH, to you all!

May You All Be Blessed....

With So Much Love and Gratitude,

Pamela

This is great news and info.

My first month on PATHS was amazing and the second - nothing, nada . Dont ask me why....but we got solution now.

Check out Operation Success

Kevin, I didn't have much luck on the shed pounds, so I switched to the ultimate body....I can't say I am feeling my muscles tightening, like some other people have experienced. But I work out 4-5 times a week, and lift weights, so I figured I just don't notice the muscle twinges. It has only been a week though.

Now with the new module coming out, I am really hoping the ultimate body works for me....I might consider switching back to the shed pounds after awhile, to get the true benefits from it!!

Wow, so much great information! I have to admit, much of it is a bit "over-my-head" ... I think because by the time I get to my computer I'm too tired to concentrate on anything longer than 4 sentences! (Love getting up at 3 am and getting home from work early, but it has it's price to pay.)

I am so looking forward to magnificent results now! I am getting weary of just creeping along, but I refuse to give up!

Thank you to everyone who put in so much of your own personal time and effort for the purpose of helping those of us who aren't getting such good results. God bless you for your hard work and diligence!

Sue