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Old 07-16-2008, 11:03 PM
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Exclamation Merkaba's Negative Effects

Hi all,

I heard sometime ago that merkaba by drunvalo has detrimental effects, in spiritual, mental and physical. Even Drunvalo himself is evil.

Any thoughts? Any merkaba practitioner before? Or if you're a good remote viewer or psychic what do you know/perceive?

Later I will post about the negativity of merkaba that I got from another forum.

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Old 07-17-2008, 12:45 AM
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?curiouso...?

When I was finding sacred geometry posts on youtube I saw one youtube on the Drunvelo as a bad guy thing...it shook me for a bit and made me question things...which is good.

So then I weighed what I knew from experiences I have had and heard....to what the video seemed to be saying...and how it was saying it...my impression of the video was... it was so manipulative and confusing with all these numbers and background info parading as facts and the "truth"... that were never explained. The refrences to other "facts" seemed vague and distorted...not the whole truth. It seemed very fear based.

I have heard Drunvelo in many talks on audio and watched his flower of life workshop on video...and know people who know/knew him. He has such an innocence and gentleness and humbleness in what I have heard... I dont sense an ego thing at all... I have a hard time thinking he or what hes teaching is "evil".

I also have done the Merkaba meditation for a while...but as with most things in the past I dont believe I did it long enough or consistant enough to judge its true effectiveness...the begining is a breathing excersize with mudras (different fingers touching each other) for each chakra, to purify balance and cleanse them...then focus on bringing energy(prana) throught the top of your head from Father Sky the Sun or God down and up through the base of your spine from the heart of Mother Earth ...both centering into first your solar plexus, expanding it there and stabelizing it.... then raising the enery to you heart chakra and turning it golden and focusing on and feeling Love. Then theres the Fibbornacci/sacred geometry element attached to spinning your Merkaba... the star tetrahedon around our bodies ("the chariot" or the vehicle for our light body)...my experiences of practicing this were positive even helpful...very much like doing zpoint or eft to clear feelings and balance myself. Getting into a heart space for me was very helpful.

He talks about "physical" alien space ships for space/dementional travel being outer technology hanessing or creating the merkaba artificially because some beings have lost there innate natural bodily ability to raise in vibration and travel the stars/dimentions...and that were at a point for us to remember. I mean who knows...how could you check something like that out...? personal testing? Remote viewing would be cool if Kevin ect. was interested!?

This information Drunvelo was/is putting out (expecially the Flower of life) would very much threaten a world view of a fundamentally religious type...He gives a world (earth+) history that he said he was taught by Thoth (the "scribe" and keeper of the Akashic records, from the egyptian culture) It talks of civilizations 10 of thousands (to 100s of thousands) of years back...that goes way beyond a "Christian" centric paradigm... He talks of other "Christ" like/concious beings ....and civilizations. That might worry or threaten the power structure of a modern day fundamentally religious minded person...???

I dont know if thats where the site your referencing is coming from but my experience of Durunvelo and his information has been extreemely positive...

That said I have heard some crazy stuff and who knows whats "really" going on. I could always be wrong. I am a slow learner with all this LOA and spiritual stuff...maybe I have a glitch in my system from spinning the merkaba? I'd be interested to see the site. And, as well, hear from anyone with more first hand experience...with Durunvelo or the Merkaba...?

the Drunvelo stuff I found is in the Sacred Geomety thread ...some of the later posts. The 5 parter thats info on the Higher Self.... gives a bit of him telling his story... and who he is. Sacred Geometry

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Hi Henrii and Blake!

I've read several of Drunvalo's books and did the Merkaba practice for a short time. I have a friend of mine who worked on Drunvalo's staff for x number of years and thinks well of him although I don't know that she ever practiced the Merkaba but she might have at one point; I do know that she values his efforts and the work that he does.

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I don't sense an ego thing at all... I have a hard time thinking he or what hes teaching is "evil".

n around our bodies ("the chariot" or the vehicle for our light body)...my experiences of practicing this were positive even helpful...very much like doing zpoint or eft to clear feelings and balance myself. Getting into a heart space for me was very helpful.

He talks about "physical" alien space ships for space/dimensional travel being outer technology harnessing or creating the merkaba artificially because some beings have lost there innate natural bodily ability to raise in vibration and travel the stars/dimensions...and that were at a point for us to remember. I mean who knows...how could you check something like that out...? personal testing? Remote viewing would be cool if Kevin etc. was interested!?

This information Drunvelo was/is putting out (especially the Flower of life) would very much threaten a world view of a fundamentally religious type...He gives a world (earth+) history that he said he was taught by Thoth (the "scribe" and keeper of the Akashic records, from the Egyptian culture) It talks of civilizations 10 of thousands (to 100s of thousands) of years back...that goes way beyond a "Christian" centric paradigm... He talks of other "Christ" like/conscious beings ....and civilizations. That might worry or threaten the power structure of a modern day fundamentally religious minded person...???

I don't know if thats where the site your referencing is coming from but my experience of Durunvelo and his information has been extreemely positive...

That said I have heard some crazy stuff and who knows whats "really" going on. I could always be wrong. I am a slow learner with all this LOA and spiritual stuff...maybe I have a glitch in my system from spinning the merkaba? I'd be interested to see the site. And, as well, hear from anyone with more first hand experience...with Durunvelo or the Merkaba...?

the Drunvelo stuff I found is in the Sacred Geometry thread ...some of the later posts. The 5 parter thats info on the Higher Self.... gives a bit of him telling his story... and who he is. Sacred Geometry

peace Blake.
Blake,
I think the silliest thing is a belief in evil or that it's a "force" coming from that certain place that doesn't have an address, run by the guy wearing a fashionable red motif Having that belief will alter your perception of anything. Religions have that woven in for control. We are highly creative, powerful beings capable of much more, but we've limited ourselves by doubts, fears, or questioning anything out of the ordinary -- fearing that it's some conspiracy created by the "bad guy to keep us from god"

Some of the best neutral info that will enlighten you and give you tools to better understand you and your universe, is the SETH material by Jane Roberts. (Depak Chopra, Mary Ann Williamson, even Louise Hay has credited this info with assisting them in their studies) If you're up for that enlightenment I would check out the books, there are about 20 - 25 of them. Seth talked about some of the different civilizations that were on earth eons ago. Even Atlantis and there was a group that created caves with sound that are found in Europe with weird curvy walled tunnels that shouldn't be there. and they used sound to do it.

He does talk about the Christ and Christianity, other religions, Freud and even Darwin - lol
He explains the "evil" jazz and with that I realize there is "evidence" of evil but along those lines there is "evidence" of evolution but that doesn't make it true.
It's a shame that some religions claim that we are bad from the get-go and need to be saved. That alone has limited many, okay, a gazillion of people from learning about themselves by meditating or other means. That belief limits your own investigation of self and those with highly tuned psychic abilities are trademarked as being possessed by a demon or something.

One of the things Seth talks about is value fulfillment without those two things, we no longer feel like living -- like with old people - if they don't feel valued and they are no longer being fulfilled - (say if a mate passes on) they don't stick around very long. It's off to another life.
If what Drunvelo is teaching you is fulfilling and has value for you, go for it!!

Good luck to you,
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Old 07-18-2008, 03:29 AM
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Drunvalo claimed UCLA did dna tests on kids to see their dna was evolving..I posted an entire article here somewhere based on that claim. I still haven't seen any proof this study was ever done. Anyone have any clues on it?
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But actually,there is no merkaba.That,what Drunvalo Melchizedec and other like him offer is just an energy implant,that becomes "invoked" after the meditation,you make.They build something like energy net of
all merkaba practitioners.And drain energy from them-Drunvalo and Gary Smith.And not only they-I discovered another "tradition",called Vortexajah by Ananda-Emanuel.
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I have practiced Merkaba 2 months.After I decided to end-up with it,I felt very exhgausted.It will take a lot of time to tell you how I felt.But I felt deenergized,
depressed and all my psychic and energy protection crushed.Many people,who
worked with it felt so.

I had a conversation with a friend,who was experienced occultist and witch.He has something,that can give him information from the higher levels (via a deep trek withIN) .I had the hypothesis,
that Merkaba is not normal energy structure and had to be an artificial implant.He asked
for info from the higher dimentions and they told him,that it is true.He got a magical solution for the problem and directed it to me-it was some special energy.Then merkaba crushed dawn in peaces.I felt much better than before.

Another friend will try to purify himself by opening a chaos vortex,and will destroy it by going into it.

So the connection was destroyed.But on energy and astral level.Two days ago,I went to a church,where it is said,that Virgin Mary appears to those,who seek Her to take advice.
This is a christian church,but it is build and made for all bulgarians..."no matter how do they call God".

I had a conversation with a messenger of Sophia,instead Mary.She said to me,that Drunvalo and Gary Smith are spiritual mutants,whose spirituality and spiritual way is right the opposite and poisonous to the normal envelopment.It is dangerous to follow their spiritual way.The most danger of merkaba and the teachings of Drunvalo and Gary Smith will be spiritual death.After that,I saw some Christ Magic.They made me purification,protection and enlightment.It was beautiful.I felt very well.The first thing,that must be done to get out of the dangers of merkaba is to seek spiritual purification.

Some friends scanned me after that and saw the energies,present around me,I got from the church.They said,I looked much better than before.

Soon I will make a site "The Truth about Merkaba" and how to get out of it.I will give you the link about the rest of the information.It is importaint...

Be careful)and Blessed Be!
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I've seen videos of Drunvalo? on youtube, I sense a bad vibe from him.....
I did not post the forum url because in respect for energetic forum, obviously you know why. You may PM me

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Any new insights

Hey I wonder if the OP was still around and has learned anything over the past few years. Anyone at all around here want to get this thread going again? While I have no real experience with Merkabah activation/meditation I have a lot of theoretical knowledge from reading and researching. I was raised heavy duty christian but keep my mind open to a lot of different elements. I understand what that one guy was talking about greatly in believing in an evil force that is working to prevent you from knowing God and such. I have read a book though that was claiming SETH eventually was causing his channeler many heath problems especially mentally. This seems to be the trend with channeling. Its all pretty crazy to wrap the mind around. So anyways anybody at all around and want to talk?
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