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Old 12-07-2007, 06:58 AM
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Question Need some help!

The things that I throw out have been bothering me more and more!

I just opened a box of crackers and finished up some cream cheese.

I hated to throw out that foil wrapper and the plastic tray the crackers came in. I know it is just going into a dump somewhere and take who knows how long to turn into dirt.

But I do not know what to do with stuff like this.

When I am in a store I refuse the plastic bags...but what about all the packaging???

I need some ideas...this is driving me crazy.
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Old 12-07-2007, 07:22 AM
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Hey Kevin!

This probably won't help you but in my view(and I think Abraham's) the world is in perfect balance and there is not a thing you can do to disrupt that perfect balance so there is absolutely no need for us to worry about things like that...it's all just energy, it's all just atoms in different combos so plastic or dirt, what's the difference? They're the same anyway

I don't think this is the answer u were looking for but it's the one I can give you

So in the spirit of Bobby McFerrin...Don't worry, Be happy

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Old 12-07-2007, 07:51 AM
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well one thing i can think about is where i live there a recyling center its not a normal one like you would think its run by the ppl and they take everything and anything from foil and plastic to house hold items even old oil and the house hold things ppl can buy it for real cheap and all the mateirial that you speak of is recyclable and they sell it in large amounts to to places that use it so you could try to find out if there a place like that near you or seperate all the stuff and bring it in to proper place for proper recycling or try to start your own recycling place thats eco friendly there is money to be made in that buisness even more so in the consumerizum age that we live in now where we consume more resources then we need to anywho
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Old 12-07-2007, 09:21 AM
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We used paper bags in our country

Kevin,

This also bothers me too, when I see the nature being bombarded with plastic bags and stuff. One way I think is to buy some paper bags and use them for shopping as they are natural bags and belong to nature.

I think that we have to only take responsibility for our own will. We can not force the companies to stop providing goods in plastic material. But we can pray.

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Old 12-07-2007, 09:24 AM
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Maybe you can embed some instructions in Project1World

These plastics have evil origin, because they harm the creation, but the power of our minds may help dissolve the plastics!!! Thinking of light dissolving them and bringing life to our planet.
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Old 12-07-2007, 06:51 PM
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Zero Waste

There are quite a few movements around the country and internationally promoting zero waste concepts. Here is one group:
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Old 12-18-2007, 12:01 AM
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Thank you for all the input.

If anyone knows of a place in northwest Mississippi or Memphis TN that I can take all the plastic trash to, please let me know.

I will do it in a heartbeat!

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Old 12-18-2007, 05:48 AM
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freecycle groups

In Yahoo groups, see if there are any "freecycle" groups for cities near you. You can ask in those groups and I bet they will know.
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Old 12-27-2007, 05:37 AM
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I have spent over an hour searching the web and the phone book for someone in my area that will recycle plastic bags and plastic packaging.

I have found NO ONE!

Found people that do tires, oil, paper, metal, but no plastic.

I may have looked right past it.

I am near Olive Branch Mississippi, 38654 and about 30 minutes from Memphis Tennessee. If anyone can find a company that will use plastic bags and packaging in my area, I would really appreciate it!

Aaron, I did look at the freecycle stuff in the area...none of them recycled plastic.

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Old 12-27-2007, 05:40 AM
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Hey Kevin,

Most of the supermarkets here have recycle bins for plastic bags - we drop all our bags there! It's usually not advertised, but often near the entrance somewhere.

Maybe there is one near you that has such a bin?

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Hey Kevin,

Most of the supermarkets here have recycle bins for plastic bags - we drop all our bags there! It's usually not advertised, but often near the entrance somewhere.

Maybe there is one near you that has such a bin?

Happy hunting.

Thanks Glenn, will check that out.

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This probably won't help you but in my view(and I think Abraham's) the world is in perfect balance and there is not a thing you can do to disrupt that perfect balance so there is absolutely no need for us to worry about things like that...it's all just energy, it's all just atoms in different combos so plastic or dirt, what's the difference? They're the same anyway

I don't think this is the answer u were looking for but it's the one I can give you

So in the spirit of Bobby McFerrin...Don't worry, Be happy

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Hi Danny

I have to say I've thought the same thing! I do recycle what and when I can, but more as kind of part of the game, because I do believe what you've said here.

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Hi Illusions!

Thanks...yes, I don't believe that we as humans could ever do anything to disrupt the order of this planet or universe in any big way.



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This probably won't help you but in my view(and I think Abraham's) the world is in perfect balance and there is not a thing you can do to disrupt that perfect balance so there is absolutely no need for us to worry about things like that...it's all just energy, it's all just atoms in different combos so plastic or dirt, what's the difference? They're the same anyway

I don't think this is the answer u were looking for but it's the one I can give you

So in the spirit of Bobby McFerrin...Don't worry, Be happy

Danny
Danny, I understand what you are saying, and agree with it. However, "Truth flies on Two wings" and there is always another facet to the Truth.

I believe we are to be good stewards of what is given to us. To me this includes not wasting resources, including the hundreds of thousands of acres that are absolutely nasty from being used as landfills (garbage dumps). I would rather see the "trash" I generate be reused for something positive than eating up our beautiful earth in garbage dumps.


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Hi!

I don't believe in a conscious god separate from us that has "given us" this planet and that sheds a tear when a tree is pulled from the ground, and that's just the way I see it and I respect ppl who have a different view than mine.

I see the universe & this planet more like a piece of art that is constantly evolving...like a painting where the artist changes the pattern and the colors and shapes daily and no day is better or worse, they just are...all in the eye of the observer...

So this planet with plants or without, with ppl and animals or without, this universe with this planet or without...doesn't really bother me...it's just evolution...

And since I don't believe in that type of god I probably don't understand but to me it seems like a conscious god with the power to create a planet has the power to restore this planet to whatever state he/she'd wish if that was desired...



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I don't believe in a conscious god separate from us that has "given us" this planet and that sheds a tear when a tree is pulled from the ground, and that's just the way I see it and I respect ppl who have a different view than mine.

I see the universe & this planet more like a piece of art that is constantly evolving...like a painting where the artist changes the pattern and the colors and shapes daily and no day is better or worse, they just are...all in the eye of the observer...

So this planet with plants or without, with ppl and animals or without, this universe with this planet or without...doesn't really bother me...it's just evolution...

And since I don't believe in that type of god I probably don't understand but to me it seems like a conscious god with the power to create a planet has the power to restore this planet to whatever state he/she'd wish if that was desired...



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Just some thoughts...

Yes the planet is evolving and it is up to us to shape that evolution. Whether it disrupts the essence, structure, or harmony of our planet or our universe may be inconsequential in the moment, but who knows in the long term?

Personally, I just think it more practical to reuse what waste we can to perpetuate the resources we have now for our future (our children and grandchildren).

While I believe that we will always be able to find the resources to maintain life, it is the quality of life that concerns me. Already millions of species of flora and fauna are extinct. Our soil, and therefore our harvested goods, have been depleted of vital nutrients. Humans destroy significant areas of sensitive land (the rain forest, tundra, rivers, streams and estuaries, etc). Each time we kill off a species, or waste resources, or destroy a large and important piece of the planet, or even be unkind we alter a part of ourselves in such a way that may leave a permanent scar on many different levels.

Just in the time between my childhood and adulthood I have seen so many natural places - wildlife habitats, farms, fields, woods - destroyed so that people could build on the land or pave it. These places are changed and will never be the same again for possibly hundreds or thousands of years, if ever.

My son will not see those places as they were and as time goes on, there are fewer places of natural beauty left available to us.

Also, think about how you feel when you create a poem, artwork, or song. Now think about how you feel about those same pieces of art some ten, twenty, thirty years later. Going back and fixing rarely occurs. Most of the time you simply move on to bigger and better things. The same may be true of the powers and forces that created our planet. What if they were simply passing through and saw a good opportunity or we were just in the right place at the right time?

I would rather see as much natural land be preserved for me, my son and hopefully my grandchildren. If that means I take the time now to conserve water, recycle, pick up trash when I'm outside, etc. - so be it. It is a small and humble gesture amongst the myriad number of other small and humble gestures that contribute to a greater good.

Whether these attitudes and gestures contribute to our evolution and whether it matters if the planet is inhabitable, or not, only concerns me in how and what we create as our coexistent future. Any picture can be on the canvas we create, but are we creating a thing of beauty or just something to keep our eyes busy?
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