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  • Capacitive Sink Hole

    Environmental capacitive coupling


    Capacity in general is an interesting beast, of which I have yet to wrap my mind around. Because of this my understanding is incomplete, and so my theories, are as always flawed. This being said, here are a few mental experiments which may help some move a step closer to their energy independence goals.

    If you imagine a parallel plate capacitor, You know that the distance between the plates directly relates to the capacitance in a linear way. This is an interesting topic of conversation in and of itself, and we will return to this topic, but for now it is a starting point.

    Imagine instead of plates, capacitive point particles, or spheres. Each has a free space capacitance, or a capacitance relevant to the environment in which it floats.

    The field intensity around this particle or sphere is known to decrease with the inverse square of the distance, this is known as the inverse squared law. So for example, if you had a sphere charged to 16 volts, and doubled your radius and took a potential measurement you would find a potential value of 4.

    This attribute affects this point particle spheres ability to affect its environment, and the effect the environment has on it. Now let’s wade through some mental experiments.

    Imagine a parallel plate capacitor. Charge it up to an arbitrary value. Now, attempt to discharge only one plate of the capacitor by touching it to ground. Obviously this is not possible, nearly 100% of the charge on one plate, is within very close proximity to the other, and within their respective fields, they tightly hold onto their charges. This is one extreme.



    Now imagine two spheres miles apart, charged to an arbitrary value. Because they are so far from one another, they really do not sit within the same environment, and so have very little if any mutual relation. Try and discharge one side of this capacitor, It will be quite easy, and the path of discharge will be to an object of differing potential. This is the other extreme of the spectrum. Here the person could touch the point charge (vandegraaff sphere) and because of her lower potential, the sphere will discharge into her and equalize.





    Now imagine Two spheres separated by some distance. This distance equals 2 doublings of the radius of each of the individual spheres. Therefore, if you have one of the spheres charged to 64v, the other will sit inside this inverse squared field and feel a strength of only 4v. (one doubling of the radius away and we would feel 16, two away and we feel 4) Again one could view each of these spheres as one plate of a capacitor.

    One could charge each of these spheres to say….64v. Now try the same as above, Try to discharge one side only of our capacitor. If you were to leave one side charged to +64v, then try to discharge the other side, you would find that you could only discharge it to -4v. This is because this distance (2 doubling of the radius) the +64v spheres field has a decreased field strength of +4v. Thus the second sphere when discharged will only discharge to the -4 level, to balance with its environment.



    As you can see, because we have caused increased separation between the spheres, they have less “holding” power on each other. As the spheres get closer, they are immersed more and more in each others influence, and they behave more and more like a parallel plate capacitor. As they move further and further apart they behave more like individual point charges. The further they separate, the less they are coactively connected to one another, and the more they are coactively connected to their environment.

    As the spheres move further and further apart, they become more and more like monopole entities. Their capacity is more and more in relation to their environment than to each other. As they increasingly relate to their environment, they will create their own equal and opposite poles. For example, if you had an individual sphere charged to 64v, then placed very near to it a piece of metal, you would induce an equal and opposite charge on the surface of that new object, this is known as electrostatic induction.


    (object C induces equal and opposite charge on object X)

    This is an important mechanism to consider as it allows, the spheres become independent entities, which now look to the environment for their equal and opposite charges rather than each other. You have shifted away from a closed capacitive system, to one that is open and interacts with the environment. This is the beginning of a “charge sinkhole” condition in which energy is siphoned from the surrounding area.

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    Capacitor with two potencials

    Hi you are getting into an area that I have been working on for some time, let me explain what I have developed.

    Take an aluminium cylinder and place inside a rod electrode in its center, seal the two ends and creat a vacuum inside. Now take another cylinder of bigger diameter and place over the evacuated cylinder.

    Now apply a HV+ to the rod in the vacuum (6kv) and connect the negative to the vacuum cylinder. Now apply another HV+ to the outer cylinder (30kv) and the negative to the vacuum cylinder creating a common negative.

    Now what do we have, two different environments with two different potencials and a common ground point of separation. Now it will be interesting to see what you think will happen.

    Mike

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    • #3
      Slide 1

      The next slides will be a progression of thought, mostly pictorial, with an explanation.

      http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/b...3/IMG_4946.jpg

      1) In this photo, you can see your average “Tesla” style transformer. Because its spark gap allows current to flow in both directions, it will create an oscillating potential within the capacitive top load, it will alternate between positive and negative values with respect to ground.
      Last edited by Armagdn03; 06-30-2010, 04:11 PM.

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      • #4
        Slide 2

        http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/b...3/IMG_4947.jpg

        2) Here we have inserted an impedance gap (negative resistance, spark gap etc…) which has a directional quality to it much like a diode. Depending on how we orient things, it will allow either positive or negative charges only to pass through. Due to this, our top load will see only either positive or negative charges, not both, per half wave rectification.
        Last edited by Armagdn03; 06-30-2010, 04:14 PM.

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        • #5
          slide 3

          http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/b...3/IMG_4949.jpg

          3) We can replace the spherical top load with one side of a parallel plate capacitor. The plate connected to the Tesla transformer with rectifier will induce an equal and opposite charge onto the second plate. But what will this induced charge look like? In the “zoomed” in section, we can see that there will be a charge distribution within the second plate. This does not equalize within itself because it is held in place by the first plate. Equally the first plate and second plate cannot equalize.
          Last edited by Armagdn03; 06-30-2010, 04:22 PM.

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          • #6
            Slide 4

            http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/b...3/IMG_4948.jpg

            4) Here we have connected the second plate to a virtual ground, or large reservoir of free “electrons”. This allows the second plate to charge with equal and opposite charge to the first plate. This second virtual ground must not be the same grounding connection to the first ground or earth ground, or they will complete a circuit, and ground will simply act as a connecting wire. A possibility for this second ground might be an aerial to connect to the atmosphere.

            It will be impossible for the virtual ground and the second plate to neutralize into one another due to the presence of the first plate. The first and second plate also cannot neutralize into one another for similar reasons.
            Last edited by Armagdn03; 06-30-2010, 04:21 PM.

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            • #7
              Slide 5

              http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/b...3/IMG_4951.jpg

              5) A second impedance gap may be inserted between the virtual ground and the second plate of the capacitor. When an impulse is given to the first plate charging it, it causes a breakdown in the second gap, and a rush of “free” charge enters the second plate of the capacitor in an effort to equalize the charges. This leaves the virtual ground, or possibly the aerial with a net charge on it. If it does not dissipate this charge, then it may no longer act as a suitable donor of charge. Because of this second gap, the parallel plate capacitor is allowed to discharge by neutralizing its respective positive and negative charges into each other, overcoming the neutralization problem posed in #3 and #4
              Last edited by Armagdn03; 06-30-2010, 08:34 PM.

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              • #8
                Slide 6

                http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/b...3/IMG_4954.jpg

                6) In order to keep the second virtual ground, or aerial near neutral, it must itself continually discharge. If sharp peaks are added to it, it will discharge itself rather easily into the local atmosphere dissipating more and more charge as the voltage climbs (which it will, till it reaches a maintained "idling voltage). This allows it to continually either accept or dissipate charge depending on how you build.
                Last edited by Armagdn03; 06-30-2010, 08:35 PM.

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                • #9
                  Slide 7

                  http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/b...3/IMG_4952.jpg

                  Here is another variation. Here we have two earth grounds separated by a distance. It would be disadvantageous to have one ground “sucking” up charge from the ground while the other is injecting charge, as this would form a complete circuit, which we do not want (rather we want an open configuration which interacts with the local environment). In order to solve this dilemma, we treat the system as a delay line (which it already is) and set its electrical length to ¾ or 270 degrees of the fundamental wavelength of the system. This allows for a 90 degree difference between the two grounds. As one ground “sucks” charge, the other is neutral, then the first becomes neutral, while the second injects charge into the ground. This allows for earth ground to be used for both connections.

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                  • #10
                    Notes:

                    Notice that possibly the most important aspect of this device is UNIDIRECTIONAL characteristic to the impedance gap. This must not allow any reversal of current.

                    This device will possibly build up to a steady state. Imagine the first impulse from the primary creating a large surge in the secondary of the Tesla transformer. This surge will pass through the rectifying impedance gap, charging the first plate of capacitor. Simultaneously the impedance gap between the second ground and the second plate of the capacitor will fire. This process will leave the second ground, or aerial sitting at a net charge (either positive or negative). It is likely that this first impulse will leave this net charge on the virtual ground at a relatively low voltage. The next blast from the primary will see an even greater impedance to its unidirectional path because of the charge left on the virtual ground. However the impulse is an inductive collapse by nature (if constructed correctly) and will overcome any impedance. This will boost the virtual ground to an even higher voltage state. This process will continue until the differential between the local atmosphere and the aerial are vast enough to cause easy conduction between them. At this point there will essentially be a solid connection between aerial and atmosphere, creating a good solid "ground" to the air. This will take multiple successive impulses from the primary.

                    Imagine "Apparatus for the utilization of radiant energy". Instead of receiving energy from an outside source like a battery, the aerial could be of the nature described above, or could be a second apparatus set near this one. The initial impulses from the atmosphere itself, can jump start the system, then you the inventors could figure out what to do with the charge acquired within your parallel plate capacitor.



                    Reading:

                    http://www.cheniere.org/references/TeslaOSC.pdf

                    http://www.keelynet.com/tesla/00685957.pdf
                    Last edited by Armagdn03; 06-30-2010, 04:47 PM.

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                    • #11
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                      Last edited by SuperCaviTationIstic; 07-01-2010, 12:14 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Additional notes:

                        The primary circuit should be a discharge of a capacitor with the highest practical stored energy into impedance (inductive) of the lowest practical value, through an impedance gap. This means 1-2 turn primary.

                        The secondary should have very little inter winding capacitance. This ensures that the energy is forced through the impedance gap, rather than into its own inter winding capacitance. We want this to be an inductive discharge which charges our intended capacity (plate one of parallel plate capacitor) and not our parasitic capacities (inter winding capacitance).

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Armagdn03 View Post
                          Additional notes:

                          The primary circuit should be a discharge of a capacitor with the highest practical stored energy into impedance (inductive) of the lowest practical value, through an impedance gap. This means 1-2 turn primary.

                          The secondary should have very little inter winding capacitance. This ensures that the energy is forced through the impedance gap, rather than into its own inter winding capacitance. We want this to be an inductive discharge which charges our intended capacity (plate one of parallel plate capacitor) and not our parasitic capacities (inter winding capacitance).

                          Finally.... the good stuff....keep it coming...

                          Regards

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                          • #14
                            Erfinder ol Buddy ol Pal!!! Long time no see! I have been on hiatus for a while due to some large life changes, however now i plan to be back in full swing.

                            Thanks for the comment!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Michael John Nunnerley View Post
                              Hi you are getting into an area that I have been working on for some time, let me explain what I have developed.

                              Take an aluminium cylinder and place inside a rod electrode in its center, seal the two ends and creat a vacuum inside. Now take another cylinder of bigger diameter and place over the evacuated cylinder.

                              Now apply a HV+ to the rod in the vacuum (6kv) and connect the negative to the vacuum cylinder. Now apply another HV+ to the outer cylinder (30kv) and the negative to the vacuum cylinder creating a common negative.

                              Now what do we have, two different environments with two different potencials and a common ground point of separation. Now it will be interesting to see what you think will happen.

                              Mike
                              Sounds similar to Joseph Hiddink's "One Terminal Capacitor"



                              Joseph Hiddink: One-Terminal Capacitor -- Articles & USP#4095162

                              Joseph Hiddink is still working on his invention 50 yrs later!

                              Another object of the invention is to provide the means for producing high potentials which can be positive or negative in nature and which are adapted for use in the study of nuclear structure and nuclear reactions.

                              Still a further object of the invention is to provide a novel and improved means for constuction and operation of a high power particle generator.

                              Another object of the invention is to provide a novel and improved device for generating potentials of either positive or negative nature of such magnitudes so as to attract, bend or repulse radiation.

                              Still another object of the invention is to provide novel and improved construction of a device for generation of potentials of either positive or negative nature, to attract or repulse mass.

                              A further object of the present invention is to provide novel and improved means and its construction for making an inexpensive, yet effective Intense Neutron Generator with possibility for slow to fast neutron emission.
                              Turning a normal 2-terminal capacitor into a single terminal version.

                              Regards, Mike R.

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