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Aaron 04-14-2019 09:10 PM

Infinity Sav
 
I've been contacted by Gary Tripp a few times regarding the claims they have a self-running magnetic motor/generator combo. There are some vids and I made it clear that vids are not proof.



Hopefully, they can bring a demo to the conference - even the small table top model. That would be enough to prove the point. I offered to give them 90 minutes on stage if they can show something.



This is the small proof of concept motor I'm talking about: https://vimeo.com/260089450


I believe the coils are bifilar wound together then connected in series like in Tesla's bifilar patent. The rotor has good size magnets.



Most coils are turned so the edge of the coils are facing the magnets and 2 that are angled so the magnets face part of the air cor and part of the edge that are 180 degrees apart from each other.



If it works at all, I think it is an eddy current generator where the magnet induces a counter current to oppose the magnet to push it away similar to the Mervace demonstration from years ago. Mervace said it was powered by a CB remotely, but I"m not sure about that. I recall at Bedini's one of John's friends bringing a model like Mervace that kept itself running without a CB supplying any power to it remotely.



With Turion's experiments - one speed there is some drag, at optimum speed no drag and a little faster, it will unload the prime mover to speed up but with less output. So there are little windows where the counter push may exceed the energy required to push it into the face of the coil's cores. With the Infinity Sav concept, they're air cores so cogging ins't a problem.



Being bifilar, there is a lot of capacitance in the coils - with Mervace's model, it had a capacitor.



Anyway, anyone else have any thoughts on this? I ignore most of these type of claims and video demonstrations because obviously, nobody can verify something remotely in a video. But seeing one of the few possibilities of how it could work, I think it could be plausible.



With their larger versions running on the cart - it is inside out. The magnets are around the perimeter of the generator case and the air core bifilar coils are on the rotor spinning past the magnets.



They're taking pre-orders, but of course I wouldn't spend a penny on something that no third party is verifying and people attending a demo isn't 3rd party verification.

BroMikey 04-14-2019 11:35 PM

Gary is hard to understand and does not speak English.
First obstacle. Next is proving to the mental maniacs on the web
that it works. Good luck with that.

he has been around for 8 years

It is an embarrassing simple principle, would't you say?



Aaron 04-15-2019 02:49 AM

inventor
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BroMikey (Post 317141)
Gary is hard to understand and does not speak English.
First obstacle. Next is proving to the mental maniacs on the web
that it works. Good luck with that.

he has been around for 8 years

It is an embarrassing simple principle, would't you say?



Gary is in Seattle and speaks English. This guy in the vid I believe is the inventor and he is over in Korea.

BroMikey 04-15-2019 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aaron (Post 317145)
Gary is in Seattle and speaks English. This guy in the vid I believe is the inventor and he is over in Korea.



I didn't know that thanks. When you look close at his disassembly video
and look inside where the coils are you can see that they are not all
aligned to the same orientation. Maybe the guy is on the level.

Just a guess, the magnets induce a field into the coils and because
the 2 (what I call motor coils) coils 180 across from each other pick up
energy to motor? I still have not figured it out. Then he has got that
switching circuit that doesn't seem complicated, but I guess we will
never know how it connects whether in series for some or just it needs
to work.

Even in his original video that is pulsing a strip of LED'S he has some
small switching going on there as well. It is a brain teaser.

Rakarskiy 04-25-2019 05:40 AM

The inventor of these devices, Andrei Slobodian (native of Ukraine). Definitely, the device has a self-propelled device, and can produce energy for external consumption. My research led me to a clear understanding that Andrei has an asymmetric system. And for the most part intersects with the work of Adams, Muller, Bedini, even Flynn, to become more understandable. My research led to that. that the history of the method stretches back from Germany 1943-45. If you take a sober look at what Robert Adams offered, and combine with the work of Bedini and Muller on the basis of the method, it turns out that the result is a self-propelled dc generator, the rotation is due to the magnetic forces of attraction. The control is the elimination of sticking of the rotor and stator poles, while the current in the generator line does not change its direction.


https://io.ua/00537268k.jpg

According to the link, the last movie of another researcher from Ukraine (died 2018).
The whole story began with the electromechanical converters of the transformers, which German engineers tried to modernize, and modernized them into an independent energy device without fuel. If the current chain is transferred to the stator, and the unipolar magnet to the rotor, we just get what Adams, Muller, Bedini and Slobodian have in their luggage.

Rakarskiy 04-25-2019 07:30 AM

Pinwheel Slobodian is nothing more than a demonstration device. He has 6 generator coils and 2 motor coils. How it can work, I explained in the Russian-language video. You exclude the inertia of the rotor. For start they have a slope, then they remove the enclosed object. This piece can work on a very precise power control, since overshooting will cause a deceleration of the ampere forces, the total ampere turn of the coil face. Lack of power stop.

BroMikey 04-25-2019 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rakarskiy (Post 317338)
I explained in the Russian-language video.

Can you properly translate this teaching into English? If so I would
be interested to hear and understand. Otherwise I'll go jump rope
instead.:D Thx man, help us out.

Rakarskiy 04-25-2019 08:35 AM

My old drawing! No longer relevant in terms of the variable polarity of the rotor.

And the meaning of something to translate? The combination in the picture, the rest is imagination. To work you need to clarify something.
Here is the guy with whom I had a dialogue, he repeated only self-rotation, in a closed loop (this is one thread, there is no bifilar thread). Just independent rotation without removing useful power. In truth, there are two windings with different parameters, unipolar magnets.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/15RS...ew?usp=sharing

I will give a tip, mutual induction. You're a seeker, like to find solutions? Then this problem for YOU.
I stated the rest in my book: A-Generator. The first generator of free energy. Germany 1945

BroMikey 04-25-2019 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rakarskiy (Post 317341)
My old drawing! No longer relevant in terms of the variable polarity of the rotor.

And the meaning of something to translate? The combination in the picture, the rest is imagination. To work you need to clarify something.
Here is the guy with whom I had a dialogue, he repeated only self-rotation, in a closed loop (this is one thread, there is no bifilar thread). Just independent rotation without removing useful power. In truth, there are two windings with different parameters, unipolar magnets.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/15RS...ew?usp=sharing

I will give a tip, mutual induction. You're a seeker, like to find solutions? Then this problem for YOU.
I stated the rest in my book: A-Generator. The first generator of free energy. Germany 1945


Thank is a great introduction Thank you. I really enjoy learning new ideas.
So let me get this straight.

#1 The picture is wrong.

#2 The picture shows wrong coils

#3 the picture shows wrong magnet pole

So we are talking all north poles?

Sometime your English blows my mind (can't understand)

Other times you English is clear.

Please continue. I am unsure of what you have said.

Rakarskiy 04-25-2019 10:38 AM

BroMikey, my bad english is a bad online translation. You want to surprise, there is nothing new, there is an old forgotten or hidden old one. For example, the technology of Joe Flynn, which is supposedly new, is very old, again, its roots belong to Bosch in Germany. Such devices as inductor generators with a mixed excitation system were installed on Soviet aircraft in the middle of the 20th century. Slobodian also did not receive a single certificate in any developed country. The reason is in the USA, for example: the Law (1951) on secrecy in the invention.

This material is from the Russian student library, where technical specialists for aviation are trained.
http://rakarskiy.narod.ru/_fr/0/5032708.jpg

In the free market, you will not find such generators with conditionally zero response to a shaft either in the USA or in Russia.

Aaron 04-25-2019 08:52 PM

book?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rakarskiy (Post 317341)
I will give a tip, mutual induction. You're a seeker, like to find solutions? Then this problem for YOU.
I stated the rest in my book: A-Generator. The first generator of free energy. Germany 1945


Hi Rakarskiy,



Where can we get this book? "A-Generator. The first generator of free energy. Germany 1945"


Thanks!

spacecase0 04-25-2019 11:23 PM

anyone know how the coils are wired together ?
that would be the big key to how it works

Rakarskiy 04-26-2019 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aaron (Post 317348)
Hi Rakarskiy,



Where can we get this book? "A-Generator. The first generator of free energy. Germany 1945"


Thanks!

http://www.energeticforum.com/market...hout-fuel.html
https://sites.google.com/view/non-fu...ng/a-generator

BroMikey 04-27-2019 11:04 PM

Hello Rakarskiy

Are these books a primer or will a person learn enough from them to
build a working model. A life long pursuit of incomplete second hand
information?

I see you are knowledgeable to write a book on SAV, were you able
to demonstrate these working principles on a bench before your book
with released?

The history is fun.

Rakarskiy 05-02-2019 12:13 PM

Hi BroMikey!
I do not think that this particular book is a textbook. In it, I understand the principles to which I refer. I give a number of schemes and algorithm of work. I reveal my vision. Step-by-step instruction, in my other work, Motor - Generator "RAGEN", it has not yet been translated into English, as work on the project Source continues. RAGEN is a typical classic built on bifilar coils that are located in an engine, and which are also a generator circuit.

Here is a video from a guy from my country who is working on a solution to the system of Andrei Slobodian. Once I sent him pictures of Slobodian's experiments.



http://rakarskiy.narod.ru/_fr/0/6529440.jpghttp://rakarskiy.narod.ru/_fr/0/2699054.jpg


Quote:

Originally Posted by BroMikey (Post 317382)
Hello Rakarskiy

Are these books a primer or will a person learn enough from them to
build a working model. A life long pursuit of incomplete second hand
information?

I see you are knowledgeable to write a book on SAV, were you able
to demonstrate these working principles on a bench before your book
with released?

The history is fun.


BroMikey 05-02-2019 10:17 PM

I'll look up the name to see what I find. Nice rotor work for slow speeds.
I wonder how SAV keeps his magnets in the holes drilled into plastic
running at 6000 rpm's?????




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