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  • #1

    Running on Fumes



    It's reported that the largest US refinery has been shut down by Hurricane Harvey, and we could be seeing gasoline prices increase as supply decreases.

    Therefore, one solution could be to run your engine on fumes, literally.

    [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWqMZ8-EHSo[/VIDEO]

    gasoline and fumes the difference - YouTube

    Code:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWqMZ8-EHSo
    .. looks too simple. Can it really be that easy?

    Why not run your gasoline generator like so?



    Old timer speaks truth:

    [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqKEQLBg6a8[/VIDEO]

    the truth about gas and vapor part 1 - YouTube

    Code:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqKEQLBg6a8
    [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDMDCT67xBM[/VIDEO]

    the truth about gas and vapor part 2 - YouTube

    Code:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDMDCT67xBM
    Last edited by vidbid; 09-01-2017, 05:37 AM.
    Regards,

    VIDBID
    Tags: fumes, gasoline, literally, run
  • #2
    Diesel Vapor Carburetor First Rough Run 10-4-2011

    [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjMCdg3pt20[/VIDEO]

    Diesel Vapor Carburetor First Rough Run 10-4-2011 - YouTube

    Code:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjMCdg3pt20
    Apparently, this works with diesel, too.
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    VIDBID

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    • #3
      Pogue Carburetor



      United States Patent #2,026,798

      Download Patent as PDF



      The old timer in the first post mentioned the Pogue Carburator. Here's the follow up on that:



      Charles Nelson Pogue invented the 200-mpg carburetor.



      See story about Charles Pogue Carb.



      Operation of Pogue carburetor is relatively simple. Fuel pump, lower left of diagram above, forces gasoline through fuel line and out, as fine mist, through two nozzles at bottom of primary heating chamber. Only pure vapor is drawn up through spiral passages. When vapor reaches center of primary chamber, a vacuum-operated reciprocating pump forces it through conduit into secondary heating chamber, where vapor goes through second set of spiral passages. Vapor then enters downdraft air horn where it mixes with air and flows into intake manifold of engine. Gasoline which is not vaporized in the primary chamber, condenses, flows back through drain to fuel line and into pump.

      Last edited by vidbid; 08-31-2017, 07:12 AM.
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      VIDBID

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      • #4
        Vapor Car

        [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEv8LGHvHvw[/VIDEO]

        [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snCA_xgQFWU[/VIDEO]

        [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=208o9H1HC1g[/VIDEO]

        [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yseG5MShJn0[/VIDEO]

        Interesting series..

        Then I found this:

        [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vrm9JzsnGU4[/VIDEO]

        See U.S. Patent 2,407,478
        Last edited by vidbid; 08-31-2017, 07:58 AM.
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        VIDBID

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        • #5
          CrazyFishFarmer Running A Generator on Fumes

          [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaiygknSFHs[/VIDEO]

          After 3 years still runs - Building a Vapor Carburetor with the Crazy Fish Farmer - YouTube

          Code:
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaiygknSFHs
          This video shows that you can run a gasoline generator on gasoline vapor.

          Interesting bubbler that he's using.



          With a set-up like this, you could go off-grid for a while.
          Regards,

          VIDBID

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          • #6
            CrazyFishFarmer

            [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ljw87uVhdeE[/VIDEO]

            25 Building a Vapor Carburetor with the Crazy Fish Farmer - YouTube

            Code:
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ljw87uVhdeE
            CrazyFishFarmer working out his design.

            Regards,

            VIDBID

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            • #7
              Bill's Vapor Engine

              [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y1_tEnwCxs[/VIDEO]

              bills vapor engine - YouTube

              Code:
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y1_tEnwCxs
              Glass fuel tank contains a mixture of 30% gasoline and 70% water.
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              VIDBID

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              • #8
                Mechanic's Opinion.

                [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jofGUu5RVQw[/VIDEO]

                Mechanic Talks About Running Cars On Vapour! - YouTube

                Code:
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jofGUu5RVQw
                Mechanic's opinion.

                Regards,

                VIDBID

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                • #9
                  200 MPG Carburetor

                  200mpg Carburetor Conversion PDF Yours For Free - Apparently ?Apparel

                  http://www.apparentlyapparel.com/upl...00mpg-carb.pdf

                  More technology



                  Another version: http://www.injusticexposed.org/siteb...es/secrets.pdf


                  ...

                  also see: http://www.nutech2000.com/downloads/...ovey_flyer.pdf
                  Last edited by vidbid; 09-01-2017, 04:56 AM.
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                  VIDBID

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                  • #10
                    US Patent 4,177,779

                    Tom Ogle, Inventor of the Super Carburetor

                    Argosy Magazine had a five-page article about Tom Ogle and the media witnessed test of the “Oglemobile”. On that test run, Tom Ogle achieved more than 100 MPG in a 4,600 pound 1970 Ford Galaxie.

                    Tom Ogle was granted patent # 4,177,779 on Dec. 11th, 1979

                    “It all started with a lawn mower”

                    https://www.google.com/patents/US4177779

                    Ref: Car gets 400+ MPG

                    Also, see Charles Nelson Pogue: US Patent #1,759,354 ("Carburetor")
                    Last edited by vidbid; 09-01-2017, 12:54 AM.
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                    VIDBID

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                    • #11
                      Tom Ogle's Vapor Fuel System



                      In the 1970s, a man named Thomas Hans Wenor Wolfgang Peter Ogle developed a new type of carburetor that pressurized gasoline into a vapor and injected it into the firing chambers. After installing it in his Ford Galaxie, the car was measured to get 113 miles per gallon.

                      He died under mysterious circumstances. Some say he was murdered.

                      He was granted a US patent:

                      US 4177779 A
                      EP0008312A1
                      WO1979000053A1

                      Originally posted by Abstract of US Patent #4,177,779
                      A fuel economy system for an internal combustion engine which, when installed in a motor vehicle, obviates the need for a conventional carburetor, fuel pump and gasoline tank. The system operates by using the engine vacuum to draw fuel vapors from a vapor tank through a vapor conduit to a vapor equalizer which is positioned directly over the intake manifold of the engine. The vapor tank is constructed of heavy duty steel or the like to withstand the large vacuum pressure and includes an air inlet valve coupled for control to the accelerator pedal. The vapor equalizer ensures distribution of the correct mixture of air and vapor to the cylinders of the engine for combustion, and also includes its own air inlet valve coupled for control to the accelerator pedal. The system utilizes vapor-retarding filters in the vapor conduit, vapor tank and vapor equalizer to deliver the correct vapor/air mixture for proper operation. The vapor tank and fuel contained therein are heated by running the engine coolant through a conduit within the tank. Due to the extremely lean fuel mixtures used by the present invention, gas mileage in excess of one hundred miles per gallon may be achieved.
                      and

                      I am aware of the following United States patents which are generally directed towards systems for improving the efficiency and/or reducing the pollutant emissions of internal combustion engines:

                      Chapin 1,530,882
                      Crabtree et al 2,312,151
                      Hietrich et al 3,001,519
                      Hall 3,191,587
                      Wentworth 3,221,724
                      Walker 3,395,681
                      Holzappfel 3,633,533
                      Dwyre 3,713,429
                      Herpin 3,716,040
                      Gorman, Jr. 3,728,092
                      Alm et :11 3,749,376
                      Hollis, Jr. 3,752,134
                      Buckton et a] 3,759,234
                      Kihn 3,817,233
                      Shih 3,851,633
                      Burden, Sr. 3,854,463
                      Woolridge 3,874,353
                      Mondt 3,888,223
                      Brown 3,907,946
                      Lee, Jr. 3,911,881
                      Rose et a1 3,931,801
                      Reimuller 3,945,352
                      Harpman 3,968,775
                      Naylor 4,003,356
                      Fortino 4,01 1,847
                      Leshner et al 4,015,569
                      Sommervil 1e 4,015,570

                      The Chapin U.S. Pat. No. (1,530,882) discloses a gasoline tank surrounded by a water jacket, the latter of which is included in a circulation system with the radiator of the automobile. The heated water in the circulation system causes the fuel in the gasoline tank to readily vaporize. Suction from the inlet manifold causes air to be drawn into the tank to bubble air through the gasoline to help form the desired vapor which is then drawn to the manifold for combustion.
                      Man, there are ton of patents on this subject. It's amazing. Ogle is telling you where to look. Funny that there is no mention of Pogue.
                      Last edited by vidbid; 09-01-2017, 05:25 AM.
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                      VIDBID

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                      • #12
                        Pogue's US Patent #1,997,497


                        Pogue's US Patent #1,997,497

                        https://patents.google.com/patent/US1997497A/en

                        https://patentimages.storage.googlea.../US1997497.pdf

                        Last edited by vidbid; 09-01-2017, 04:36 AM.
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                        VIDBID

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                        • #13
                          Gasoline Wicking Vapor System

                          This is interesting.

                          [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwKaMA4jKTQ[/VIDEO]

                          just vapor, the truth or a lie - YouTube

                          Code:
                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwKaMA4jKTQ
                          [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzsIjY4n40E[/VIDEO]

                          lawn morrow on wick vapor cutting grass part 1 - YouTube

                          Code:
                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzsIjY4n40E
                          [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-UcgMLnFjQ[/VIDEO]

                          new vapor design with wick on lawnmower - YouTube

                          Code:
                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-UcgMLnFjQ

                          11:44 I say vapor is the
                          11:49 way to go there's guys out there driving
                          11:52 around on vapor when guys got a 318
                          11:57 Dodge Ram truck he's running his solely
                          12:00 on vapor and he's running through the
                          12:02 fuel injectors he's never complained
                          12:06 about burning the injectors up you know
                          12:10 it's what it is is what it is
                          One of this gentleman's video is also in the first post of this thread.

                          Gas can go flat through a bubbler?

                          I didn't know that.

                          I hear that the fabric material is made of humidifier fabric.
                          Last edited by vidbid; 09-01-2017, 06:20 AM.
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                          VIDBID

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                          • #14
                            318 Engine Running on Vapor

                            [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUS1rJu7_Jw[/VIDEO]

                            318 on gas fumes - YouTube

                            Code:
                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUS1rJu7_Jw
                            what about the vapor being run through fuel injectors..

                            so I found

                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wzk4uIe_3mg

                            also experiment with fuel injectors

                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3LsZttJMUE
                            Last edited by vidbid; 09-01-2017, 07:07 AM.
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                            VIDBID

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                            • #15
                              Latest video on fumes lawnmower:



                              (He's heating the fuel and the intake air that goes to make the fumes.)

                              [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqsTaBq1acs[/VIDEO]

                              heating the gasoline on lawnmower - YouTube

                              Code:
                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqsTaBq1acs


                              Car running on fumes:

                              (It's running through a bubbler to make fumes.)

                              [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=420kq_UFgtg[/VIDEO]

                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=420kq_UFgtg

                              Code:
                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=420kq_UFgtg
                              Last edited by vidbid; 09-03-2017, 02:02 PM.
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                              VIDBID

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