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nilrehob 03-27-2015 08:33 AM

SSG Minimizing Trigger Winding Losses
 
Hi everyone,

I have been looking at how to minimize the losses in the trigger winding in an SSG energizer:

https://sites.google.com/site/nilreh...attredirects=0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35AY5053C3Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rthoeuBtbz0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17B_B6usv4E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcGiVRp4dp4

They all work differently and I have no favorite just yet.

/Hob

BroMikey 03-27-2015 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nilrehob (Post 272943)
Hi everyone,

I have been looking at how to minimize the losses in the trigger winding in an SSG energizer:

https://sites.google.com/site/nilreh...attredirects=0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35AY5053C3Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rthoeuBtbz0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17B_B6usv4E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcGiVRp4dp4

They all work differently and I have no favorite just yet.

/Hob

I have watched many of your video's and learned something
Every time. I don't email you but I am there.

Much appreciation Sir. I am all ears for your delivery.:thumbsup:

nilrehob 03-27-2015 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BroMikey (Post 272946)
I have watched many of your video's and learned something
Every time. I don't email you but I am there.

Much appreciation Sir. I am all ears for your delivery.:thumbsup:

Thank You for Your kind words :)

Aaron 03-27-2015 08:48 PM

trigger losses
 
Hi Hob,

Are you not getting the results you want by simply using as little trigger as possible by just increasing the base resistance so you get the fastest speed for the least draw?

Also, are you running in repulsion mode or attraction mode?

BroMikey 03-28-2015 02:16 AM

Hey Hob

I like the one circled. I want to try them all. If you tried the circled one tell me if the battery went down.

Mikey PS I'll bet the COP is pretty good.:D



http://flyer.thenetteam.net/ssgtriggerloss.jpg

nilrehob 03-28-2015 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aaron (Post 272967)
Hi Hob,

Are you not getting the results you want by simply using as little trigger as possible by just increasing the base resistance so you get the fastest speed for the least draw?

Also, are you running in repulsion mode or attraction mode?

Hi Aaron,

Done all that, got the books ;-)
See also http://www.energeticforum.com/269359-post4.html

This is because curiosity.

/Hob

nilrehob 03-28-2015 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BroMikey (Post 272977)
Hey Hob

I like the one circled. I want to try them all. If you tried the circled one tell me if the battery went down.

Mikey PS I'll bet the COP is pretty good.:D


I havent measured COP yet, but I tried the last one here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhuIEMSRV0E

I have a new version coming up that I think is worth some attention,
but probably not until next week unless unexpected extra time shows up.

/Hob

nilrehob 03-28-2015 06:58 PM

SSG Trigger Winding Series Discharge
 
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Here is a new variation on the SSG:

It only has one diode.
Both trigger and power windings are discharging in series into the secondary battery.

Here is a video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtBVz6y4nPQ

Here is a schematic:
https://sites.google.com/site/nilreh...attredirects=0

It has both normal and generator mode where generator mode is selected in the schematic.

/Hob

nilrehob 03-28-2015 07:21 PM

I started a new thread on SSG Trigger Winding Series Discharge here:
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...discharge.html

/Hob

BroMikey 03-28-2015 08:30 PM

Recently I went to fast diodes, what number do you run? I thank you 4 your video of single battery mode not so good 4 the battery.

My new diode doubles my output 4 the same current input. I guess I had really bad slow diodes before.:rolleyes:

I am still reading your report, BRB

Mikey:thumbsup:



Quote:

Originally Posted by nilrehob (Post 272981)
I havent measured COP yet, but I tried the last one here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhuIEMSRV0E

I have a new version coming up that I think is worth some attention,
but probably not until next week unless unexpected extra time shows up.

/Hob


nilrehob 03-29-2015 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BroMikey (Post 272996)
Recently I went to fast diodes, what number do you run? I thank you 4 your video of single battery mode not so good 4 the battery.

My new diode doubles my output 4 the same current input. I guess I had really bad slow diodes before.:rolleyes:

I am still reading your report, BRB

Mikey:thumbsup:

My diodes are usually SF16G but I'm open for suggestions for better ones.

/Hob

BroMikey 03-29-2015 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nilrehob (Post 273013)
My diodes are usually SF16G but I'm open for suggestions for better ones.

/Hob

45ns is pretty fast, I like it. Some are higher voltage say 1200volt, your device is only 400volt. Even a 1000volt is better. Maybe HITBY will chime in, he is the master of diode reality.

I only just started using FAST DIODES but mine handle 30amps. The 2n4007 is 4ns at a higher voltage but I don't know what to tell you is better for sure.

We will leave that up to the guys who know.

Anyone? Know?

But your diode is way better than what everyone else uses.

Aaron told a number of a new diode but I am not sure on that because I didn't try one yet. Maybe they call it ultra-fast?


One thing is sure. When I use higher voltage ceilings of fast diodes my output doubles sometimes for the same draw on the input.

Check my post on your other thread about the other half of the monopole system.:thumbsup:


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