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BroMikey 12-29-2014 03:34 AM

Gerard Morin Energy
 
This thread is about Gerard Morin and his way of looking at free energy.

Recently we have talked about chipping in money to do Gerard Morin's HV transformer experiment.

If you would like to be 1 of 20 guys adding say $50 to see one of Gerard Morin's experiments replicated, keep reading. Like Gerard said in his video many guys can't even change a flat tire so this message is not for you.;)


Here are a few links to Gerard Morin's work stay tuned.:thumbsup:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Spf5WVGgSY




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOq9C3YSjKg



http://peswiki.com/images/e/e0/Gerar...ds-out_400.jpg

BroMikey 12-29-2014 03:42 AM

Messages from Series Experimenters
 
Here are a few comments


Quote:

Originally Posted by Matthew Jones (Post 268958)
I don't think your gonna find cold current from that. Flyback and sepic currents are pretty hot.

I think the cold seen in the video is along the line of Electrostatic cooling. Maybe not. Unfortunately I don't think anyone is even going to test this guys theories let alone go out and buy the large scale transformer or develop a method for producing bipolar current that is independent of the grid.

I see some correlation between work I have done and what he is talking about so I want to try, but it will take bit of time. Gotta round up a few parts first and hopefully harvest enough crops over the next couple of weeks to afford a spool of wire or two.

If he is wiring the thing up with 120 vac then his voltages in the transformer are at 7200. to build a transformer your looking at 1:60 ratio. To keep from burning up your looking something like 25000 ft wire. Maybe 400 ft of 24 for the primary and 24000 ft for the secondary output.
You can use a real low induction on the primary but then you need to regulate current and that all has cost as well and i am not sure of the results if start regulating current. To test this you really do need those big transformers.

Anybody willing to pool some money and try? I got 200 bucks right now. I'll have to eat light but thats OK I'm fat. We can all buy in on some of those used transformers Mikey was talking about.

Come ON!! this is a discussion lets discuss it.

Matt



Quote:

Originally Posted by vidbid (Post 268976)
No one has to put their money where their mouth is.

It's completely voluntary.

Regards,

VIDBID




If we can start how much would it be? Say 20 people give $50:thinking: let's see that is

$1000 is that enough? or do we need more money?

Not counting the genset. Starting with the transformers how much would they be?

Some of us could put in $200 and I could put in $50 that is how poor I am.

My Van is broke down. I can still put up something. The question is how many people would be interested to see one of the guy with more time than me assemble this easy experiment.

Like you say whoever gets the job would end up with the huge transformers probably, so what. It would be worth it to see.


The genset and heaters might be easier to get our hands on. Many people have those heater already and the genset I don't know.

The thing is we need to pick a guy from this group we all know and trust who has the time and desire to do the test.

Someone would need a garage open to assemble this test and enough man power to move those huge transformers around.


Money is one thing, coordination and winning the confidence of the guys interested is another. I see very few people post on these sites daily just as general rule.


Unless people will response as a collective and we set some kind of base dollar amount that seems reasonable, we may not gain much interest.

I know guys who spend $50- $200 a week on the lottery. One guy I know made back $27,000.

We need to find a man who will run the test and show us his open doors, such as a garage or pole barn. Let this person come forword now and do a video of him saying he is able and open to make the test and watch the funding fly in like an Eagle.:thumbsup:


That would be a kool happening. If any of you young men who are laid off and want to do this test speak up, or maybe Matt has time?

Either way Matthew is right in what he has said. Let's talk it over and review the up coming video and make some sort of decision.


Thanks for putting your foot out first Matt.:thumbsup:


I am a talker so speak up. Who wants the job men?


Mikey



Quote:

Originally Posted by Matthew Jones (Post 268974)
When ten people say they will help fund it we'll start kickstarter or whatever.

Put your money where your mouth is, Thats all that matters.

Cheers
Matt




Quote:

Originally Posted by BroMikey (Post 268993)
We can make a new thread dude relax.

For those who are into seeing this experiment get off the ground here is the diagram.

If this picture needs modifying please specify.

We can use you Matt. Or whoever wants to do it.:thumbsup:

I am not going to worry about all of these brake men on the train, we need engines not brakemen.:D


http://flyer.thenetteam.net/transformerTest.jpg


BroMikey 12-29-2014 03:48 AM

Money For Experimenting
 
You can handle $50 no problem I know that. Or not just move over and watch these younger men take the challenge.


Talk to me guys, who wants the job at your house? I located a single 25kva transformer for $350 used in Florida. Less than a thousand and we will have the main ingredient (2 very large transformers)

An old genset of proper design can be had easy. Someone will mail it to the guy who is doing the testing.

Any takers? I think endless talking is nice too.


Mikey



Money ain't nothin. $50 in the gas tank goes by by fast. Give me $50 well not yet. Soon!! That is the cheap way to do it.

Money is for spending Now honesty is nice too. Anyone feel honest and up to the challenge? We need someone who will do the test in his garage. We need to see your honest smiling face, we will shake hands later


Okay VIDBID is right we need a real person who we can see and trust is on the level and you will probably end up with free energy at your house. Won't that be awesome?

10 people to start would get the ball rolling but we need to see the person who will except the job first.


Any takers? I trust Matt. I would not give expecting to get it back, give me a witness, somebody?

Mikey

BroMikey 12-29-2014 03:54 AM

Money For Experimenting
 
So far Matt has offered $200 and I have $50 for this project.

$250 is in already so feel free to read this thread and make a pledge so we can see it through without breaking one man's bank account.

Mikey:thumbsup: $250 is a good start.

Turion 12-29-2014 04:57 AM

$300.00

But like I said, we need to decide who is replicating this before I put up the money. Matt, you know you have MY vote! LOL. I'll even send you this motor/gen from McCulloch when I get it so you have that to go with whatever you build.
Supposedly, it runs.

Dave

BroMikey 12-29-2014 05:31 AM

$300
 
I agree. It would be so kool if we could each shell out a few bucks each and give it all to some young guy and his family when he is done.

Free energy in exchange for running tests.

Any taker who has time and a place? I know this is a new post and it will take time to get everyone seeing this.

If guys can throw out a $50 or a $100 we will have plenty of money to get parts, Maybe. We will somehow scrape up what is needed.

Thanks Turion for your support. This also shows that this experiment seems legit as the man in the video has shown.

We need someone who will step up to the plate who has time and a shop to run these tests. The transformers are powerful and heavy so if you are afraid of HV do not except the challenge.

Now we potentially have the exact McCulloch GENSET as shown or suggested in the video. That is worth a lot.

Mikey


Quote:

Originally Posted by Turion (Post 269008)
$300.00

But like I said, we need to decide who is replicating this before I put up the money. Matt, you know you have MY vote! LOL. I'll even send you this motor/gen from McCulloch when I get it so you have that to go with whatever you build.
Supposedly, it runs.

Dave


BroMikey 12-29-2014 05:54 AM

$300+$250=$550 in
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Turion (Post 269006)
Howdy folks,

1. I contacted tishatang by email. Since he is somewhere in Northern California, he is probably within driving distance of me and I would be happy to purchase that generator from him if he will snap it up, so I can take it apart and get photos of it to the rest of you.

2. I also contacted the individual in Canada who has one for sale and have offered to purchase that one and pay for shipping.

3. Haven't heard back from either of these individuals, but hopefully I will.

4. I will chip in $300.00 to the cost of purchasing the transformers once we figure out WHO is replicating this thing.

But let me say this.I am a believer in free energy. I know it is possible because I have seen it on more than one occasion. BUT, I have seen the videos, and I have some concerns. Those heaters he connected may be 1500 watt heaters, and he may have had three of them connected, but I PROMISE YOU they do NOT draw 1500 watts the minute you turn them on. To assume his load was 4500 watts from those three heaters during the course of that short video is a JOKE. They are designed specifically NOT to pull their entire 1500 watts on startup, but to slowly build up to that, and THEN only if set on "HIGH" And that leaves only one other thing running off his output, and it was at idle. So I am NOT convinced that his output was greater than the input. Sorry. Were those heaters set on low? On high? They barely had time to warm up in the course of that video. Have any of you had ANY experience with heaters of this type?

Dave

Okay correction on my Part Folks.

Turion has pledged $300 toward the purchase of the two transformers. Plus a possible McCulloch Genset .

So the total now has reached to $550.

This is a greater nest egg than I had expected in one day.

If I knew who would except the work of testing i could locate a transformer in his area and have it arranged to be sent to his house, if everybody was in agreement with that.

Any takers? We need someone who has HV experience and won't get himself toasted that can run a few simple tests.

Mikey:thumbsup:

BroMikey 12-29-2014 06:07 AM

Experimental testing
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Spf5WVGgSY





http://s25.postimg.org/gqf5tjxcf/gerard_morin.jpg

BroMikey 12-29-2014 07:42 AM

Various Experiments From Gerard
 
This website has a collection of other simple experiments from Gerard.

Like me he is an old man on our last laps, so to speak.

This may be of interest to you. Let me know if you like the video information and want to contribute to the Large transformer experiment from Gerard.:thumbsup:

All participants in helping with a small donations will receive the detailed test results for energy energy magnification in with Gerard's latest setup.

We are only just beginning to see this experiment through and already we have $550 plus a McCulloch Genset, if everything goes as planned.

We are in no hurry so look over the materials on this newly formed thread and ask question when you chose.

Gerard Morin Videos : New Energy Results | For All Kind



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOq9C3YSjKg


https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/pr...Mg=w426-h240-n

Zardox 12-29-2014 01:26 PM

I am impressed
 
I am impressed with your undertaking of a large colletive project. However I am retired and can hardly justify spending the money on my own simple projects.
I have been doing experiments useing the washing machine pump motor as a generator which for it's size has a fairly decent output. I am just supprised that as a cheap way of testing Gerards theories that no one here seems interested in trying it.
As this thread has a specific goal I will not post here again.
Good luck guys - it will be great to see if you can accomplish your goal

altrez 12-29-2014 05:04 PM

Hello All,

If we can find someone legit I will help with $200. It's really not much money at all I am sure $5000.00 could easily get all the parts needed.

If I had the time I would just go ahead and build it. One word of advice be careful if you touch the wrong thing just once you won't ever make that mistake again.

I have worked with HV so trust me I know a bit about transformers and how deadly they are.

Be careful!

:cheers:

-Altrez

stargate22 12-29-2014 07:03 PM

Question?...What does one do for power when they run outta gasoline.....?

Perhaps a way to approach this devise / project is to r-e-v-e-r-s-e engineer it?

Just an observation? : ]

Dog-One 12-29-2014 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stargate22 (Post 269042)
Question?...What does one do for power when they run outta gasoline.....?

Perhaps a way to approach this devise / project is to r-e-v-e-r-s-e engineer it?

Just an observation? : ]

I think the idea was to replace the gasoline engine with an electric motor and attempt to loop.

Reverse engineering here is a bit tricky since we are dealing with effects that are not mainstream physics. A more-likely-for-success approach is to do a legitimate replication, get the same effects and then begin to focus on what makes this system tick. Make tiny changes and find out what is critical and what is not. Once the boundaries are determined, people can run with whatever implementation they want.

BroMikey 12-29-2014 09:04 PM

Pole Pigs Now
 
HitBy says he has a place AND pole pigs, Now can you beat that:blowout:


Quote:

Originally Posted by Hitby13kw (Post 269018)
Just checked my stock, happen to have multiple 5, 10, 25, and 37.5 KVA pole pigs on hand - have a good workshop and time, :D
what I don't have is the Generator.


Don't have a 50 on hand, but with all the other sizes we could provide multiple input/output current/voltage readings - we have data logging equipment so it would be no trouble to provide raw data over any time domain you want investigated.

Hitby13kw


BroMikey 12-29-2014 09:09 PM

$750
 
Great offering Altrez

We are now up to a pledge of $750 plus a possible McCulloch Genset plus HITBY has a 25kva POLE PIG and a place to run the tests.

I need Matt and Turion to talk to HITBY to see if he fits our needs.

Also HITBY needs to make a video of his shop and show us his open shop and his smiling face.:D We need a visible:D player.

Things are moving fast here.:thumbsup:


Quote:

Originally Posted by altrez (Post 269038)
Hello All,

If we can find someone legit I will help with $200. It's really not much money at all I am sure $5000.00 could easily get all the parts needed.

If I had the time I would just go ahead and build it. One word of advice be careful if you touch the wrong thing just once you won't ever make that mistake again.

I have worked with HV so trust me I know a bit about transformers and how deadly they are.

Be careful!

:cheers:

-Altrez


BroMikey 12-30-2014 06:43 AM

$750 in a Pledge plus one 25kva Transformer
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hitby13kw View Post
Just checked my stock, happen to have multiple 5, 10, 25, and 37.5 KVA pole pigs on hand - have a good workshop and time,
what I don't have is the Generator.



http://flyer.thenetteam.net/transformerTest.jpg


Don't have a 50 on hand, but with all the other sizes we could provide multiple input/output current/voltage readings - we have data logging equipment so it would be no trouble to provide raw data over any time domain you want investigated.

Hitby13kw




Hello HITBY

Hang in there and check out this thread. I am looking for Matt and Turion to communicate with us when they are ready. Please be patient.

I just got in late tonight at 12oc.

We will be also watching for a video of you at your shop.

Thank You. Also it will take some time to ready the McCulloch plus getting a hold of a 50kva Pole Pig.

Bro. Mike :thumbsup:

Turion 12-30-2014 08:23 AM

Generator
 
It will be at least the first of the week before I have the generator, as I have to drive up north to pick it up after the swap meet on Saturday. And then I need a day or two to take that thing apart and get some good pictures before I am willing to part with it. I'm pretty busy right now, but I check in here at least once a day.

Dave

BroMikey 12-30-2014 09:02 AM

Waiting and Thinking
 
Hey Turion

You are indeed a man of your word and I know I can trust you, I hope you will grow to trust me as well. Let me say that nobody has ever been a more rotten guy in the past as I. You may not understand why i say this Turion, but I need to share. I have failed so miserably in the past. Drugs and coming up in the night club scene had practically cost me my life several times.

Mom owned a bar and I failed my first family in my teen years into my twenties. So if you hear me poke fun at some of you guys about the XMAS party:D it's all in good fun, it just help me to remember where I came from, that is all. I damaged my health doing it. You would not believe it if I told you. The HELLS Angels Motorcycle club in Pontiac Michigan was in my hood, when I was coming up.

Don't take it personal.:thumbsup: No one I know has stooped so low as I did early in life, you guys are saints compared to me. Now I rejoice in my second chance or last chance to interact with others on a normal level.

Now with that said I was digging in the ebay files and found this, maybe you already saw this? I am not sure I read all of the posts.

Matt talk to us. I am for you Matt.

@Turion

Here is the link to the gen winding I found. You may not need it Dave but it is there if you do or if other people want one.


McCulloch Stator Assy 21116 for Mite E Lite Portable Generators | eBay


http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTA2NlgxNj...Sg59J/$_57.JPG



The thing is that if I had this winding I would still need a rotor to activate it and all I could think about is that motorgen set up of yours and how a guys could setup this windding to do the same thing as running it on a gas engine.:thinking:

HIYBY has a 37.5kva and a 25kva pole pig as he puts it but I think we need to remember the words of Gerard when he said that tuning was an issue.

If we look at the video we see the outside yard area is covered in pole pigs.

This tells me that Gerard tried different sizes and that tuning consisted of finding the right combination of winding to get his results.

So we must conclude that a 50kva and a 25kva is a requirement to get the test results along with the McCulloch windings of course.

Also I have watched his video with the little motors making radiant and wanted to ask you Dave, do you get these types of results with that really kool MotorGen you built?

I am new at thinking about this stuff. So far all I have built that makes radiant is a solid state School Girl oscillator. It looks like to me these motor/gens really crank out some power.

I know from the looks of your rig and then comparing your size windings to that little motor Gerard had, yours must really be exciting to operate.

I am beginning to see why Matt and You want to continue this same type of research. Well It looks similar to me.

I will be looking fore word to our next talk. I thing HITBY13KW is very busy looking for a camera because I have not heard from him at all.

Maybe he doesn't see this new thread yet?

Mikey:thumbsup:




Quote:

Originally Posted by Turion (Post 269084)
It will be at least the first of the week before I have the generator, as I have to drive up north to pick it up after the swap meet on Saturday. And then I need a day or two to take that thing apart and get some good pictures before I am willing to part with it. I'm pretty busy right now, but I check in here at least once a day.

Dave


BroMikey 12-30-2014 09:42 AM

McCulloch Genset
 
Here can be found the break down sheet for a smaller McCulloch. This shows the parts are still around.

OEM Parts



http://partstream.arinet.com/Image?a...ges%2Foemparts



This one was sold last year for $115


McCulloch Generator - Nex-Tech Classifieds



http://media.discoverstuff.com/img/l...6799533_1.jpeg



Here is another break down of a bigger one.


OEM Parts





This one went for less than $50 in 2012

86' McCulloch Mite-E Lite Generator, 3300 Watt, Electric, Briggs and S... - Repocast.comĀ®


http://auctionimages.s3.amazonaws.co...1/17962318.jpg


Parts Lookup



http://partstream.arinet.com/Image?a...2FParts-Lookup

BroMikey 12-30-2014 09:55 AM

Old Genset
 
Here is another oldy but goody:D Right on EBAY for $200

Vintage McCulloch Mite E Lite MK5 20 115V 230V Portable Genterator 5HP Engine | eBay



http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NjQwWDQ4MA...UJAnv/$_57.JPG

altrez 12-30-2014 10:05 AM

I got a question, why cant any 4HP generator be used?

-Altrez

pedroxime 12-30-2014 03:54 PM

hi, i think there is a great posibility that mculloch windings are overunity , this configuration could avoid cogging.

probably would work only with electric motor.

rotors are easy to build, many wind turbines use those magnets rotors and neodimium, that was not available when mcculloch were made.

kEhYo77 12-30-2014 03:59 PM

Hi. To me it looks like high inductance of his pole motor used as a generator here causes CEMF delay when on load, reducing load on a generator DC motor. And the same thing happens with those can transformers. Thane's AUL effect is based on high inductance generator coils, with a long rise time of currents to get to a point of RPM/frequency threshold, where CEMF from the generator is phase shifted 90 deg. reducing EMF requirements for the system to operate in that range of speed.

Listen closely of what he is saying here, showing the gen part: showing the gen part

"When you start it it has a lot resistance but when you spin it fast the resistance goes away"...

kEhYo

Turion 12-30-2014 04:24 PM

Resistance
 
What is resistance?
Why does it go away
With the motor/gen combo I built, I have had to deal with the attraction of 12 neo magnets to the cores of the 12 coils. So much "attraction" in fact, that I have burnt up two razor scooter motors during testing. They pulled too many amps and "poof!" Until 1200 pm there is "resistance", "drag", "cogging" whatever you want to call it, but after 1200 rpm's it all melts away. At 1800 rpm, something else interesting occurs, but we are talking about resistance right now.


Why the unusual shape of the coils on this particular generator? I'm pretty sure it wasn't just dreamed up by some guy sitting on a toilet with not much else to do. The interaction of the coils with the rotor and back plate was designed, and that's the main reason I want to tear one of these down and take a look at ALL the parts. The casing around the thing could be important too. Without some serious experimenting we have what we always have...a bunch of theories. I don't have a generator yet, but if parts are available, I would order all the ones necessary. We don't need the gas engine to power it, we just need the generator section. I contacted McCulloch to see if they still had parts in inventory with that in mind but have not gotten a response.

Dave

kEhYo77 12-30-2014 05:53 PM

I think that he means resistance as in resistance to turn the generator as in friction. Off course when under a load condition. And it goes away as the phase angle is increasing with high RPM.

Hitby13kw 12-30-2014 07:40 PM

for your approval
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BroMikey (Post 269085)
I thing HITBY13KW is very busy looking for a camera because I have not heard from him at all.

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BroMikey, Found my camera !!! Made this just for you . . . video for Gerard replication

Hitby13kw


P.S. the 37.5kva pole pig (and others) are in the barn being used for another test at this time.

BroMikey 12-30-2014 09:17 PM

Video From HITBY
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hitby13kw (Post 269128)
BroMikey, Found my camera !!! Made this just for you . . . video for Gerard replication

Hitby13kw


P.S. the 37.5kva pole pig (and others) are in the barn being used for another test at this time.






Hello HITBY

Hopefully some of the members will review these units within the group. I see your awesome collection of POLE PIGS, good name for those big dogs.:D It looks like you are wanting to do the smaller magnetic motor experiments as well. That big resistor is staggering.:dance:

Great to have you on board. The camera was moving some but I think the 25kva PIG has two insulators on the top. If this is correct let me know.


In Gerard's video the two transformers have a single insulator denoting a single phase unit. This may or may not be significant.

The main concern is like you say HITBY, if you had a McCulloch genset you could try multiple PIGS to see what worked the best. Step up and down hoping for a set of transformer windings that would best be tuned for one another producing the most results.

It looks like to me you understand the potential hazards of high voltage electricity so we can rest easy concerning your safety. This is a great start and wonderful open door for all of us to test this idea.

Mikey


BroMikey 12-30-2014 10:00 PM

Motors
 
Hello Altrez

yes all of these 3,4.5.6 hp engines run at the same RPM at around 4000.

2 pole alternators like 2 pole motors operate at 3600 RPM's so on the Generator side increasing the rpm over 3600 rpm's it begins to put out current.

Mikey:thumbsup:


Quote:

Originally Posted by altrez (Post 269090)
I got a question, why cant any 4HP generator be used?

-Altrez


BroMikey 12-30-2014 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turion (Post 269111)
What is resistance?

but after 1200 rpm's it all melts away. At 1800 rpm, something else interesting occurs, but we are talking about resistance right now.


Why the unusual shape of the coils on this particular generator?

I don't have a generator yet, but if parts are available, I would order all the ones necessary.

Dave

Hello Dave

I am all ears. Talk more when you can about the effects of your home grown Motor/Gen. Very interesting stuff:thinking:

This one was sold yesterday. It is the rotor.


McCulloch Mite E Lite Portable Generator Rotor 21103 | eBay


http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTMyM1gxNj...Sg7mt/$_35.JPG

Turion 12-31-2014 01:40 AM

Well, if my gen was running and doing everything it is supposed to do, I woud be bragging all over the place. I had an epic fail today and smoked about $200 worth of parts and the driver board. I boxed it up and sent it to Matt. LOL. When he gets it all fixed and it is running like it is supposed to, I'll be talking about it. Right now, it has only run long enough for us to do some quick measurements before having one problem or another.

Dave


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