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Old 06-28-2007, 08:32 PM
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Hey folks,

The subject of Robert Scheinfeld's Busting Loose from the Money Game book came up in the Matrix Energetics thread, and the suggestion was made that we start a thread on it...

So here it is.

If you start it, they will come

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Old 06-29-2007, 04:41 PM
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I'm here...I'm here!! Thanks Chansy for creating a new thread!

For those that have not followed the thread from Matrix Energetics...

I have read Busting Loose twice. The first time, I was completely blown away. I walked around for a week with my mouth open.

There was a part of me that completely knew this to be true, but there was another part that was fighting it. I was like "NO Way!".

It prompted me to watch "What the bleep do we know" again and this time that movie made so much more sense to me.

Then I read Matrix Energetics which brought me to re-read Busting Loose.

A part that I struggled with is when he mentions that The Law of Attraction is part of our phase 1 Illusion and part of the game we are playing in phase 1. The concept of LOA is flawed and we created it that way so we don't remember who we really are. We created all these things to forget that we are Infinite Abundant beings. I think more or less that is what is said.

Well, I've been a huge fan of LOA and Abe-Hicks and when I read this I was SHOCKED! But the way he explains it in the book there is a part of me that knew this to be true.

I'm still trying to wrap my hands around all of this.
But I continue to bust as many "eggs" as possible.

Let's use this thread to share our experiences!!

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Old 07-01-2007, 09:26 AM
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Hi Sweet Chansonette and Aime

Thanks so much for starting this thread!

It's been quite a long time since I read Busting Loose, and I haven't really thought about or discussed it much for many months now as I've been so busy with other stuff. But when I saw this thread, I was drawn to it, and feel really excited to discuss BL again

When I first read it, it was like a light had been switched on for me. I had always suspected that none of this was real, I'd frequently had experiences of realising that it was an illusion - this has happened throughout my life, but more frequently in childhood and as a teenager. I start to feel "detached", and like nothing is real - like I'm in a dream, like I could do anything, and it wouldn't matter because it's all a dream anyway. At these times I also feel I'm not me - it's like this physical "self" is an illusion or a character (this is why I chose the user-name Illusions ) While I'm typing this, I'm aware that, were I to say this anywhere other than a forum like this, I'd be carted away for my own safety and the safety of others
It used to scare me, so I would make myself "snap out of it" (lol or as I now know it - "snap INTO it" ) So when I read BL, oh, it just confirmed what I'd been feeling!!

The bit about the LOA I also found disconcerting because what Abraham teaches makes perfect sense to me, and the LOA, to me is about as flawed as Gravity

I do think that whatever a person believes is true for them. And this is confirmed by the information in BL. If this is my hologram, and I believe that LOA is flawless - since I've created it that way, so it is

It's such fun to be discussing this again

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oh absolutely, you're not alone Illusions! We'd have to be carted off together hehe I'd be honoured to have you in my padded cell ha!

Thanks for starting this thread Chansonette, I'm a big fan of Busting Loose. I wrote an email to a friend saying that even though he discredits the loa and affirmations and visualisation etc, HIS ideas are genius because they clear the mind and they clear the feeling of uncomfortable feelings leaving us clear to feel joy (which we do when we use his process) which attracts everything we want via LOA! Genius.

I wonder how many have actually busted loose, not that it matters, but I am aiming for that. I try to remember to do the busting loose every day, sometimes forget sometimes do it several times. It has helped a lot.

And omgosh it's so true that what you believe comes true. I can't begin to tell you. A shortcut version would be: in the past I've got to a really good place, worked on my vibration, been floating on a high. Then, I had a little neg thought about something. It might be just a little inkling that something is too good to be true etc. I may catch my mind thinking about it a little longer, trying to figure out HOW it might be untrue. (sort of ego working at not wanting to be caught out or taken for a ride etc rather than just focussing on results) And those thoughts has come true EVERY TIME! Now get this, it has never happened without me first thinking the neg thought. Never! And, even better, the moment I laughingly realise just how I created it, and purposely ignored it and gone back to feeling good - everything has turned back around to my favour eg whatever it was that was a problem disappeared in a poof of smoke and it was true!

This is really important when it comes to neg stuff. I remember getting an idea about something VERY negative, and I had confirmation of it even though it was not there!! So please, learn from me and do yourselves a huge favour (I am doing it too) and only concentrate on your end results of the good stuff, and it's really important to hang around the top of the emotional guidance system. Because you really don't want the crap thoughts coming true and they will, only because everything you are creating.

Sorry gone off on one, well that is the book for you lol It teaches that everything is an illusion even down to a scratch on your furniture. What happened to me when I read it, is I had a little panic because if I'm not here sitting on my bed reading (the bed is an illusion) then WHERE AM I!! I don't wanna be hovering in space or something so I decided I am two places.

A) I'm in a beautiful field next to a spiritual friend and
B) I'm being lovingly held by the Universe.

Intending I "Bust Loose" in all ways, very shortly!
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Hi Gorgeous People!

Dr. Bartlett HIGHLY recommended this book at the end of the last day of the recent ME Seminar in Seattle! He made sure we had time to write down the title and author. However, he also said- get ready for a crazy ride with this book - not for the faint-hearted - all with a mischievous twinkle in the eye hehe. Which is all the encouragement I need to absolutely dive into it!!!

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A part that I struggled with is when he mentions that The Law of Attraction is part of our phase 1 Illusion and part of the game we are playing in phase 1. The concept of LOA is flawed and we created it that way so we don't remember who we really are. We created all these things to forget that we are Infinite Abundant beings. I think more or less that is what is said.
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Well, I've been a huge fan of LOA and Abe-Hicks and when I read this I was SHOCKED! But the way he explains it in the book there is a part of me that knew this to be true.
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The bit about the LOA I also found disconcerting because what Abraham teaches makes perfect sense to me, and the LOA, to me is about as flawed as Gravity
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I wrote an email to a friend saying that even though he discredits the loa and affirmations and visualisation etc, HIS ideas are genius because they clear the mind and they clear the feeling of uncomfortable feelings leaving us clear to feel joy (which we do when we use his process) which attracts everything we want via LOA! Genius.
Without reading the book yet, I have had this perception about the 'relativity' of LOA, yet, how it is, not-is a thing of value, but that its just not the end-all be-all. I'll leave it at that for now. Its a play in progress lol. Once I read the book, I will 'get' whatever information and perceptions have been coming me a lot clearer.

Thanks for the great thread, Chansonette!

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Old 07-01-2007, 07:53 PM
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I'll bring snacks and refreshments to the beautiful padded cell!
You guys are so funny!!

Illusions, I love what you said about LOA..you can create anything in your hologram. Love that...

You know...I wonder too how many people have Busted Loose.
He mentions thousands in his book. I wonder if there is a forum out there. If anyone knows of any please provide link.

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Old 07-01-2007, 09:47 PM
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Hi lovelies,

I'm just popping in for a sec to say I'll be back after I prime my bedroom (that's chansonette having a tantrum b/c really it is TOO gorgeous a day to be working on the house, but I promised myself i would ).....I (as you all can imagine) have SO much to say about BL And yes, Dr. Bartlett is absolutely right. It is NOT a book for the faint of heart

Here's the short form of my take on the LOA thing:

No teacher has the corner on Truth. So, for my money, this is just an area of growth for RS. He's defining LOA way too narrowly -- feels to me like the LOA of The Secret -- which is all about defining and visualizing what you want etc etc. Leaves out the other two aspects of the equation, which come through so clearly in Abe's teachings: The Law of Deliberate Creation, the Law of Attraction, and most importantly, the Law of Allowing. In my not-so-humble opinion and in my very concrete experience, anytime you leave one of those out of the picture you skew it a bit. That's what RS did in BL. But other than that, I find the book absolutely right on....

If you think of The Process and the results of The Process in Abe terms, it's an advanced technique for getting out of the way so that Law of Attraction can bring you what YOU'VE ALREADY CREATED FOR YOURSELF and what is awaiting you in Vibe Escrow (abe term). Abe says over and over again that the U has a much better memory for the details of what it is we really truly want than we do. If you listen to Abe, especially lately, over and over they talk about letting go. Just getting happy and letting go.

In a nutshell, that's what BL teaches....b/c if you do the process consistently you don't just get happy...you get blissed out. And my experience of the end result of doing the process when crud came up was that what flowed into my hologram later on as an end result was consistently WAY beyond my wildest dreams...but quintessentially what i have been wanting. Without fail.

Bottom line though, is consistent between BL & ME: if you enter that level of "reality" it's time to give over analyzing and move deeper into feeling.

As to a forum....I don't know of a free one other than the one on PI which is extremely inactive at the moment....RS has a forum on his site but it's for paying clients, not the rest of us

This is so much fun!!!!!! Yay! I'm so glad we have an ESM thread on BL!!!!

love & hugs and seey'all later

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Yay Chansonette, that's what I was meaning in my post too. Exactly how I feel about it

Lol aps, well being creators we'd vibrate ourselves right out of that cell But not before eating your munchies, thanks!
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So our lives are unreal are they???

I have been reading Busting Loose From the Money Game and also, Matrix Energetics and today I was on my way to the beach and had to drive by a pond filled with cow manure from a dairy farm for fertilizer and I had to laugh as I held my nose and I remember saying, " This hologram may not be real, but it sure is a stinky hologram.":
Both of these books I'm reading have awesome information in them, but it is a real challenge to apply to the lives we have programed for ourselves. I wasn't going to do it because it was scary to me but then I thought....what have I got to lose except old thought patterns that do not serve me.
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Busting Loose

After reading all of your posts, I just had to go out and buy this book. I got it at Borders books today. Yay!
I'll post after reading it.
I'm ready for a reality shattering read
Thank you all so much for recommending it.

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Infreakincredible book!

Alas and alack, many of my questions were answered in this book, regarding the nature of 'life'!

That we are playing the Human Game was no surprise to me. That all our efforts at changing what we feel is 'real' on this planet, is also part of the game became very clear - another 'not surprised' moment. That we're 'making it all up' including the nature and condition of our bodies, and all the other actors and sets around us resonates true for me.

Moving into Phase two and crossing over the Busting Loose point to directly affect our personal universe/hologram ROCKS!

In the Matrix Energetics seminar I recently experienced, many books were referred to by Dr. Bartlett but this was the ONLY ONE that he stopped the seminar to MAKE SURE we all had the title and author down correctly! ME prepared me to accept the ideas, which are INCREDIBLE, described in BL. IMO ME too, is part of the Phase One world but a modality that is a TON of fun and thats the main reason Dr. Bartlett created it and why all of us created him so we could experience it too! (wrap your head around THAT one! Read the book and you'll understand how Difficult all the old language is!) ME is a way of getting that one big step closer to realizing the Human Game and for that I am very Grateful!!!

In Phase two, we can truly realize all the games we played in Phase One, to make things seem 'real' - our health, our relationships, the 'facts' lol about money and EVERY other thing - all in opposition to the Truth about our Expanded Self. We can realize those games but in a new context decide to play by different rules, or no rules, or play the same games but in full awareness of what they really are. In Phase Two, after busting loose, we open to our infinite Selves and play a new experiential game.

In Phase two, we create any movie we want with ANY THING you can imagine!!! Health? Financial matters? World Peace? Relationships? We have already been making it all up! In Phase two, you can make anything up - out of the infinite Field, ANYTHING is possible and extremely probable after crossing the busting loose point!

I would HIGHLY RECOMMEND this book to anyone who is not satisfied with the status quo of explanations given for the nature of life, including those who have seen the holes in ideas to do with the law of attraction and other 'explanations' for 'how things work (tm)' :P Or, if you just want a good, mind-blowing, entertaining read - get it! Be prepared to have ever single 'belief' you think is 'real' to be fully challenged!!! You will never be the same

Love and light to all of you my most excellent actors!!!

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yup, baybah!

exactly right, Stephen....and this may blow your mind even more -- Phase Two is a Phase Two invention....

oh, Toto. I don't think we're in Kansas anymore.




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putting the knowledge from the books into action???

This is for Stephen or anyone else who has read Busting Loose and Matrix Energetics.....
Are there any people on this website that have applied the knowledge of either or both of these books to their lives and can do what these 2 authors do?
I'm going to a Matrix Energetcs workshop next month and I have the book and really enjoy reading it over and over.
I know we are spirit (light and information) having a human experience and as the author from Busting Lose writes I am The Power and Presense of God in this creation I call life, though, for me, I have to add The Holy Spirit of God and I Am the Power & Presense as I don't believe I created this life alone. I haven't figured out yet how to create dirt alone, or walk on water, so there has been and is a bigger, more awesome creator involved in this whole creation than the individual players. Part of my concept is that Life is God's great Story Book of unending stories and He/She is the ultimate story teller, director, producer and even inhabits the actors and the scenery. It's a bigger picture than our human minds can comprehend. But, oh what a picture!
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That IS something to ponder! Thank you!!

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Get onboard the Busting Loose Tour

Hi thought I would post this link to the "Busting Loose Tour" on Bob Scheinfeld's Website. It's well worth watching it to get an idea of what the Busting Loose process is all about.

Heres the link: BUSTING LOOSE From The Money Game

Happy Viewing

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Thanks Terry! I have been wondering about Busting Loose and have seen several references to the process both on this forum and others. I started to watch the video but see it is over 50 minutes long. I will watch it in its entirety tonite.
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Busting Loose

I've just finished "Busting Loose" and it truly is a mind-blowing and paradigm-shattering experience. I've read Matrix Energetics and Busting loose is a zillion times better. I'd recommend it to everyone.

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I'm in the process of reading busting loose....couple more chapters to go....to be honest it really scared me...not so much the fact that I am a hologram, but the fact that everyone around me is a hologram, and there for my purpose. I am not sure how that really works....I understand you manifest what you want, but are you what the other hologram (person in your life) manifested as well? In the book he said everyone else is like a small part player in a movie....I agree that you don't know everyone or come in contact with everyone, but the way it is worded seems as though those people don't have a life at all....they don't really exist. Am I making this more difficult than it is?

To me busting loose and Loa are on the same track....because what you do with LOA in attrack what you want into your life by positive thinking etc, and bustin loose is the same....you are supposed to get rid of negative thoughts and patterns by repeating the saying he has outlined in the book. Is this not the same thing, but just taking it a step further? Isn't LOA all about manifesting what you want in your life? and from what I have read so is busting loose. Any thoughts?

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ok, so here is something fun to think about.

how do you know that im playing the same game as you?
or how do you know we are ALL playing the same game?

perhaps i added or subtracted rules that you guys dont have to follow, or specific obstacles for "ascendency" or "illumination" that dont apply to you.

this could explain why certain "gurus" make it, but their students do not, even thought hey follow the same advice/path as the guru.

i havnt read the book yet.
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Fantastic observations Nadine!

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I'm in the process of reading busting loose....couple more chapters to go....to be honest it really scared me...not so much the fact that I am a hologram, but the fact that everyone around me is a hologram, and there for my purpose. I am not sure how that really works....I understand you manifest what you want, but are you what the other hologram (person in your life) manifested as well? In the book he said everyone else is like a small part player in a movie....I agree that you don't know everyone or come in contact with everyone, but the way it is worded seems as though those people don't have a life at all....they don't really exist. Am I making this more difficult than it is?

To me busting loose and Loa are on the same track....because what you do with LOA in attrack what you want into your life by positive thinking etc, and bustin loose is the same....you are supposed to get rid of negative thoughts and patterns by repeating the saying he has outlined in the book. Is this not the same thing, but just taking it a step further? Isn't LOA all about manifesting what you want in your life? and from what I have read so is busting loose. Any thoughts?

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This would be why Dr. Bartlett (from Matrix Energetics) said this is a 'Dangerous' book...though this could mean many things, I believe his point revolved around how B.L. will challenge and alter ALL of your beliefs and everything you formerly thought was 'real'. Its freakin' incredible!!!!!! I LOVE IT!
And, its a simple as: If it doesn't resonate with you, you can simply put the book down and put it out of your mind! OR, if there seems to be something to it, TRUST in the Process, drain the power out of the self-limiting eggs and welcome a 'reunion' with your Expanded Self and no longer play by the RULES. They are an illusion and always were!

I believe there IS an interaction with all the actors in your hologram and THEY in YOURS however, the key is that no one has anything happen TO them that on some level isn't being allowed to happen by the real 'you'. In Phase two, you get into the driver's seat and use your x-ray vision to see through the hologram.

Remember, in phase two, you are becoming aware. In phase two, you are realigning yourself with a KNOWINGNESS of Who You Really Are, thus, regardless of everything else including people, existing for you to apply the Process and other Tools, that your essence is LOVE and you would always act lovingly towards everyone else. This serves THEM too, as they welcome, from THEIR perspective, your loving actions as something they are creating!

LOA has some similarities to Phase Two living, but in the end, is still a Phase One game. LOA does not seem to work for everyone as powerfully as it could. Why is this? According to the BL author (which YOU created lol), it is because LOA works when your Expanded Self wants to play that game. I believe that beings at a certain stage of evolvement are already 'in touch' with their Expanded Self and thus are at whatever point of already being in the 'driver's seat' as it relates to Phase Two, so LOA 'works' much more effectively for them. This isn't a step further in LOA, its a WHOLE NEW BALL OF WAX!

YOU ARE THE ULTIMATE CREATOR NADINE, in your hologram!

If you have ANY feelings to deal with regarding any matter in life, including the difficulty sometimes of accepting the understanding of a hologram and your point of creating everything in it, then apply the Process over and over and drain the self-limiting eggs of their power! Over and over and your hologram will automatically CHANGE!

Love, light and awareness BE yours!

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ok, so here is something fun to think about.
how do you know that im playing the same game as you?
or how do you know we are ALL playing the same game?
perhaps i added or subtracted rules that you guys dont have to follow, or specific obstacles for "ascendency" or "illumination" that dont apply to you.
this could explain why certain "gurus" make it, but their students do not, even thought hey follow the same advice/path as the guru.
i havnt read the book yet.
Those are great questions!

I have simple answers for you from my perspective

After you bust loose from the Human Game, with all its subsidiary games like the Money Game, the Health Game, the Relationship Game and so forth, then YOU create whatever it is that you desire to experience in life. You are definitely on the right track with the guru idea. The BL ideas are built upon ancient philosophies of Eastern Mysticism, and current understandings of Quantum Physics all in one nice neat package that is a lot more accessible for us, rather than engaging in meditation with gurus for decades and still maybe never 'getting there'.

One further idea on the LOA comments I made in the previous post is that in BL, YOU create the things you wish to experience, which is different than 'attracting' them. Whatever it is that you desire, your Expanded Self does the 'work' of creating the pattern in the Field, adding a ton of power, and popping it into your hologram! All you do is see yourself doing the thing that you wish (this is after busting loose at some point in Phase Two) and it comes into your 'universe'!!!

The ideas in BL are unorthodox and disturbing for many as one faces the realization that perhaps there isn't as much 'free will' and 'choice' as one used to think! However, once that is accepted and the power drained out of that limiting thought, then we can move on to greater and greater creativity and a much more real form of 'choice'.


To me, your perceptions are on the right track - I can only say - Get the book if something seems to resonate for YOU!!! But beware and be prepared lol

Love and light,

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well Stephen it is good to meet you.

actually, i ordered both books before you posted the response above.

i started reading the ME thread, and your excitement, along with Arioch's posts are intoxicating.(i havnt even finished the second page of that thread yet)
my desire to read these books goes way beyond curiosity, because some of the descriptions match my life (or mentality) to a "T". i have always been detached from this place, and even though i get along with everyone, i never really feel connected either.

ive been down quite a few different rabbit holes, but this one is really intriguing.
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Bustin' Loose big time!

Hi Everyone--

I haven't even fully finished the book yet, have a couple of chapters to go.... All I've been doing in terms of a "practice" is taking a few moments every once in awhile to really feel the hologram nature of this reality. You know how he writes about "strange occurrences" starting to happen? I've had one. A freakin miracle one!

My life is forever changed by this.

Thank you, all of you, for being here and introducing me to this! I am so blown away!

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on second take....

Okay, I spoke too soon. The miracle phenomenon disappeared again, probably because I invested power in the limited view even after seeing it. But it was there and I got confirmation from another person. I am getting the "play" or "game" nature of reality, that's for darn sure!

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Cool Awesome Book!

Well, I took Stephen's advice and read the book and have been applying it! Some really weird things can happen when you start doing this! Awesome things!

Well to answer some of Nadine's questions about other peoples holograms and what not... I have wondered about this also, but I am starting to understand it better now!

A little background so you can better understand how I came to this understanding. In the book the author talks about how when he got to phase 2 his life fell apart and it took him like about a year I believe going through experiences he would have prefered not to go through... This freaked me out! I thought there is NO WAY, I am so far down if I start this where will I go from here! I am already living in a shelter, going through a divorce, and having to fight for custody from my X! Then I realized that I was already there... I was in the perfect place to start my journey, my extended self had placed me there to prepare me for the journey!

Okay, so now we are to the other actors in our holograms... Well my X has been controlling me for the last 16 years, and I kept thinking what role will he take as I bust loose? How will he react or what will he do? If I created him then what about his hologram and how do I get away from playing the role he wants me to play? Hmmmmm!

Well, I think I am figuring this out now! First of all he is loosing power over me, and can not control me like he use to! ooooh! You want to talk about frustrating to a controlling man He tells me I am becoming an intimidator because I will not let him walk all over me anymore! What is weird is that I am getting to not only watch my hologram change as I walk away from that relationship, but I am also getting to watch and see what his hologram is doing! I have chosen to find my true self and move forward towards busting loose, and he is still blaming everyone else for all his failures. The other day he asked me to take care of his (my old dog) while he was out of town, and when I showed up he could not find his keys. His first reaction was to blame me! He is convinced that I hide things from him! His business is going down the tubes and he is loosing everything including his kids who don't want to have much to do with him! Yet he chooses to create all this, and all the time blame everyone else, but... His hologram is having less and less power over me, and I am gaining more and more power over me as I do the process everyday. His part in my movie is growing smaller and smaller and smaller.

So my point is we are the creators of our lives or holograms, and other people get to create their holograms or lives exactly as they choose to. The deal is as we learn who we are and how to create what we want to create in our lives we also get to choose what roles we are willing to play in other peoples holograms! Here is the deal as we get to know our true selves and we become powerful beings... I believe we will attrack others like us and scare off those who are not ready for this journey... Some relationships may be lost along the way, and others gained! All is good!
blessings Sallyjane zartgirl
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WOW! I really appreciate everyone's responses!

Stephen, you really have a knack for explaining issues...you make it seem so clear and simply. Thank you! I admit I was a little freaked out when I started thinking that everything I have known and loved for the past 40 years is not even real. I tried to put the people in my life into that context, and was even more freaked out! What am I doing here if nothing is real??!!
I felt better after your post though, you said "you can simply put the book down and put it out of your mind" which is good to know....I can deceide if I want to more forward with this or not....I am not quite sure if I am ready for something like this....I will do "the process" just because it does make me feel better, but I can't get my mind around myself and everyone else "being a hologram". I think I am better off thinking in terms of "we all have our eternal spirit and we are on earth with a physical body", this is basically the same thing, but feels better for me.

Adam Ant, the idea of "many many different games going on" is making my head twirl...I will come back to that thought later. LOL

Kalilove it sounds like you know how to play the game! Good for you! I hope your miracle pops up again.

Zartgirl, Realizing that you could not go any further down, was probably your turning point. Isn't the saying, people have to hit rock bottom before they can get better....from everything I have read about your situation, you are definately heading up....you must be so thrilled with all the new possibilities!!

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Adam Ant, the idea of "many many different games going on" is making my head twirl...I will come back to that thought later. LOL
Nadine,
isnt it a fun twirl though? i like to think that each of us REALLY are in our own universe AT ALL TIMES. even though others are around us (whether we manifest them or not) is inconsequential, because we are witnessing THEIR universe. there are probably only a few REAL souls out there, all the rest are "fill ins".

have you guys ever seen Jim Carreys "the Truman Show"? that is how i look at the universe(my universe) there was the main star-- Truman(you) and then there are the main supporting actors (not necessarily family or friends) and then there are the everyday "fill ins" that have no real role other than effect of realism.(and a sense of diversity)

i still believe in God as the Creator, but He has given each of us our own universal "playground" to do whatever we wish. after all, arent we God's children? even Jesus said "you are all gods" (little "g")

ok Nadine, now here is a REALLY fun thing to think about... try to imagine NOT existing!! WOOOO HOOOOO

and when you finish years of time on that(i have tried since 1997), try to find the end of your mind...
visually project yourself inside of your mind moving, and keep going until it stops

now you have have a sliver of an insight into my mind (.001%)


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Hi All -
What a fascinating thread . I am intrigued totally by your posts and checked out "Busting Loose" on Amazon.
But now I see that Terry has graciously posted a link ... think I'll look at that this weekend.
Thanks to all of you for some fun new energy and ideas!
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you know, im on chapter 11 in this book, and now that i re-read my post above it is freaking me out... in a good way though. especially with my reference to the "Truman Show" and the "fill ins". the book calls them extras, but it is the same thing.


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Cool busting loose and weight issues...

Ever since I read the book, I keep thinking about my weight and how the busting loose relates to that. I truly believe that there is a relationship between my weight which is higher than I would prefer and this whole process of busting loose!

Okay, Yes! I created it! Not just by eating to much! Actually in phase one thinking I would say I created it by eating too much sugar and white flour. But trying to put that kind of thinking on the back burner... I really created it by placing a pattern in the field and Whallaaaa! Here it is seeming real. I have started to process the discomfort or uncomfortable thoughts like when I look in the mirror, and the results have been interesting... A change is starting to take place in what I see now in the mirror! A change is also taking place in how I dress too, suddenly I am starting to take pride in how I look. This is amazing, because I have not taken pride in how I look in years. The results are that I am starting to see a beautiful woman looking back at me, the same woman people have been telling me forever is beautiful! This is awesome stuff I tell you!

Of course I get frustrated, because as with other areas of my life I want everything NOW! Hehee! Hmmmm... but starting to see how I have to be patient and just focuss on the here and NOW, and not worry about later. Worrying about later seems to put off the awesomeness of what our extended self has for us! I am also starting to see that I need to be so ever thankful for who I am and what I have created. Walla Walla may not be where I want to live, but while I am here I need to appreciate being here and now! The same is with the dress size I wear! I need to appreciate that I created so much beauty in me!

So I am thinking that as I feel feelings of discomfort with the way I look, and as I experience the cravings that have seemed to drive my life for so many years I need to apply the process to these feelings and reclaim power from them! I am also learning that my plans for my life are so short sighted and so much smaller than my E.S has planned for me, that I need to get rid of them and just trust my true self. Somewhere in there is everything I need and want (truly want).

In case you are wondering, this has been a painful process to get to this understanding of what I have read with the Busting Loose and the Power of Now! Yes I lot of head banging, and then IM's to Stephen and talks with Grace and others to get me back on track with my focuss! I am sure there will be a lot more of those chats also. We have some awesome people on this forum!

Well I just thought I would share some of what I have been working on with the busting loose, and processing things and such! It is such a powerful tool for us to use. I was talking to a friend this morning and why it is that we hold on to certain areas of discomfort and not apply the process to those areas! Think about that for a while! Why we don't want to let go! Hmmmmm... just some food for thought!

Love and Gratitude Sallyjane zartgirl
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