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Old 10-10-2007, 02:30 AM
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Hi All,

I am really grateful for this thread, cuz I was really dissapointed when i got confirmation on the BL forum being for paid customers only...

I read the book about a week and a half ago, and have been really angry ever since and have had some really wierd things happen for me, and some really scary feelings come to me..... like what is the point of all of this if nothing really means anything....

recently i have been soooo, angry.... alot around nothing being real and OMG i have spent so much time and energy on things that really don't matter.
that is keeping it short..
I can see how this works, I am frustrated and thrilled with what i am experiencing since reading this thing...
Torn and in awe

yes, what you were saying Zartgirl about having the tool to apply to uncomfortable feelings... but not wanting too,

it's like when an uncomfortable feeling comes up... one of who knows how many things happens for me...
anyways i will resist cuz i don't know what will happen next, and since i have to go to work or whatever is going on... pretty much don't want to make waves in what is set out in front of me (like i have control, or at least that kind...cuz it's all an illusion anyhow)
or i find as i am applying the process that i am resisting and have to repeat a few times, and i become aware that i am enjoying the experience... just like how in the book he talks about the reason we read a book and watch a movie... cuz of the emotional experience we get... although we are aware of how these are not real as we are doing them....

so it is not to say that i am enjoying these things really, cuz i do want my power back... Hmmmmm, so then in phase two perhaps i can create what i want to experience and it's on purpose opposed to being driven by an unrsolved issue...or simply put a ...... lost the thought, kiddo was talkng to me...
anyways must go eat.... but i have more,
this is soooo different than anything and yes very challenging to what has been life and my life and beleifs about life, yet things just never seemed to fit for me...

So much hit home with me in BL and ME and CWG.... i happened to be reading CWG 3 at the same time too... OMG

these three really seem to meld together very well, and have validated so much for me.. and i have been going uh huh uh huh uh huh... stuff i knew and saw and felt.


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well Stephen it is good to meet you.

actually, i ordered both books before you posted the response above.

i started reading the ME thread, and your excitement, along with Arioch's posts are intoxicating.(i havnt even finished the second page of that thread yet)
my desire to read these books goes way beyond curiosity, because some of the descriptions match my life (or mentality) to a "T". i have always been detached from this place, and even though i get along with everyone, i never really feel connected either.

ive been down quite a few different rabbit holes, but this one is really intriguing.
hi, you said in this post about being detatched and never really feeling connected....meeeeeeeeee toooooo

and it was mentioned somewhere in book 1 or 2 of CWG
about not connecting or something along those lines...

ok, chow time...
later...Adrienne
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Old 10-10-2007, 03:56 AM
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ok, dinner is done and kiddo is in bed...

well, in regards to what's been said about law of attraction, i saw the movie and what really stood out for me was that i got the sense that letting go and acceptance were huge things in making it work for you... didn't really look into it to much though just was hoping to get it through osmosis...lol... by watching the movie... but did get my wheels spining for sure.

but the thing that has come to me now in reading this thread is that those two things i got out of it, were and are very signinficant, cuz they have been a struggle for me, and therefor a block in my creating what i desire, or however one wants to term it, so for me the journey carried on.... this all started for me with meeting someone who came into my life and was introducing 'the secret'
'PATHS' and pretty much much of what i have gotten interested in and curiouse about in the last 10 months.

I never looked into it or tried it enough to see how it was flawed or not...what ever.... although for now it seems very true for me that what I think, creates how i feel, and therefor creates what i manifest or experience in my life... not sure if that is solely a LOA thing or not...but i see it to be true for me all over the place.... and am also aware of how i am so unaware of thoughts that are going on in my head. Although, i may work my ass off at trying to manifest what i want in my life...my subconsciouse (which works behind the sceens) is sending out opposite messages than i am or may be consciously putting out there...
I think i may have gotten a wack of this info in Bruce liptons 'Biology of Belief" so therefor i need to deal or shatter the root cause of my negative thinking...
whether this could be put into the context of Phase one or not.. haven't given it to much thought really.. (got maxed out with busting loose)... either way i find it all intriguing

And then into the busting loose process....Hmmm....
well, when i apply the process, i can't even begin to describe what is happening, but i know something is totally happening, cuz i feel it. things being released, I feel different inside... and i want to share about how so many amazing things have been happening, and it is almost like the appreciation is automatic too...cuz i actually notice the awesome things where at one point I sluffed things off....
back to what i was saying.... I have spent years, literally years doing counselling, and recovery stuff, and emotional healing... and never have i noticed such dramatic differences..... so fast, BOOM...BOOM..just like that...

OK, granted this just may be happening at a time of huge change anyways????? duh...lol

in all these other ways it never really seemed to dissolved anything.... at least not effectively... lots of residue always left over.... or something

now my mind is becoming boggled cuz, there is so much I struggle with in concieving right now...
My intellect has been maxed out.....lol
which really is good, cuz intellect has been a survival skill for me...and gosh darnit I desire to grow and exspand.

so intellect has been shut down.... like an out dated computer.... can not compute, warning.... will self destruct..... lol..... this is a very good thing for me.... cuz i could always come up with something....lol
now i am at a loss.... and only have my feeling to direct me.
wierd thing too is that, my head hurts if i even attempt to understand this...it will come to me when i am ready to understand it...Sigh...

Am in a dormant/processing mode right now.... and since my head is out of the game... have my heart/gut/feelings and my handy dandy tool kit...hehe

very new place for me...
k, thanks for listening....
Glad ya'll are here........Adrienne

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Old 10-10-2007, 08:48 AM
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wow Adrienne, thank you fro sharing your story. I think i ll venture into reading BL book too . I loved the ME book.....
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Old 10-11-2007, 03:07 AM
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Cool Major breakthrough...

Ooooh! this is sooooo cooool! I had this major breakthrough of understanding today! It started with my cell phone ringing... I was laying on my bed wimpering cause I had a major migraine, and when the cell phone started ringing... Well you can imagine my responce! It was a dear friend from here Grace! Well suddenly the cell phone ringing was a exciting and not well... You know what I mean!

She had called me to answer a question I had asked on the CEM thread, and while talking to her she said something to me that clarified soooo much for me! She said "That in between the physical matter is God!" Wow! A light bulb went off in my head! Well I know in the book it says that, and I know Stephen has told me that a number of times... It says in the Bilble that I have studied intensly that God Dwells in ME, but well I just had never gotten that "GOD" actually is the matter in between all the physical matter, like the glue that holds me together! GOD had always been something OUT THERE... okay I knew he was omnipotent here, there, and everywhere, but like how? Oh you should know I come from a Pentecostal background, so we deal in the spirit all the time, but I still did not get the whole spirit thing completely, because to me the Spirit was distant... Someting out there that I was not conected to, but should somehow be connected to!

So today when Grace told me that GOD was in between the physical matter, it HIT ME BIG TIME! That is how we are all one, that is how all of this works! You know the extended self (spirit) and the physical self, and everyone being connected as Stephen is always telling me we are all one conciousness! Suddenly it all made sense! Hmmmm! I spent the rest of the day driving around and doing what I felt I needed to accomplish today totally engrossed in the thought that GOD lives in between the physical matter in me, in the car in front of me, in the person in front of me, in everyone here! We really are one conciousness... I get this NOW!


Love and Gratitude
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Old 10-11-2007, 06:27 AM
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very cool Sallyjane
thanks for sharing....Adrienne
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Old 10-11-2007, 12:23 PM
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Sallyjane, thank you for sharing that with us! It is amazing how some people can pick up on a concept explained one way....and others need it explained another way! This makes perfect sense for me as well!
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Old 10-11-2007, 01:34 PM
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Hi Folks!

Just wanted to pop in (lol, into your hologram) and give greetings and salutations!

The BL phenomenon is rather incredible if we step back and take a moment to Observe what is going on 'round here.

You get this book - simple matter, words typed on pages. Yet, you start to read it and WITHOUT actually DOING anything, your 'world' starts to change. Things you once thought were outside of you, shift and change. VERY uncomfortable scenarios of your worries, fears, 'issues' aka OOZE, suddenly pop up in your life en masse. WTF?

To me, this is the greatest 'proof', if some is needed, that the BL model of life is at least one significant step closer to the 'Truth'. However, it comes with great responsibility, namely, YOUR OWN, that YOU are creating it all, as observed from your perspective.
The beautiful thing about acquiring your X-ray vision, and having your Expanded Self bring you the self-limiting eggs, is that you have the TOOLS, to do something proactive with it!!! Yes, the Process is extremely powerful! I haven't had too many Eggs brought to me lately, it seems that most were dealt with within the first month or two of Phase Two awareness, but a doozy came the other day. What a experience diving RIGHT INTO THE MIDDLE OF THE 'PAIN' and TELLING THE FREAKIN' TRUTH ABOUT IT!!! I FELT the waves of 'energy' pulsing through me. And just because I like to change things up a bit, , I also made sure I was aware of the Observer watching 'me' and these feelings/egg (Power of Now stuff). To put a sweet cherry on top, and get a little crazy, I threw in some M.E. with a magick circle to leave that 'Self' out there to experience the rest of the Process while I continued on with the rest of the day's activities. However, the last two aren't necessary for you to make the BL 'work'!

I am very GRATEFUL for becoming aware of the Busting Loose ideas!
I am extremely GRATEFUL for YOU, all my wonderful, perfect, awesome ACTORS! You ALL deserve OSCARS and I love you all!

May you enjoy the world I am creating anew to reflect the very BEST, which is all there truly is, of my Expanded Self!

In gratitude and love,

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Old 10-11-2007, 03:55 PM
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you know Stephen? i think this post answers one of my questions from the ME thread in regards to the traffic issue.

i have had an extremely ACTIVE life, even though i just turned 30. every aspect of my life has had huge amounts of turmoil, resulting in many many large power eggs. well that day in traffic, they all seemed to come back at once. i hate traffic with a PASSION!!! i was reclaiming power from all sorts of eggs, but results were not coming fast enough. i kept saying to myself "if this BL is really true, why isnt the traffic going away?!?!?!?"




and now i see the relationship between MatrixE and BustingL.... each of them represent one half of the universe!! the first half is Busting Loose in that we are the creators in our universe, but it steers us in a reactive sense.

Matrix energetics balances out BL by giving us proactive tools to work with...
this means we have defensive powers AND offensive powers.
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Old 10-12-2007, 03:44 PM
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Cool Adam

Adam...
Also remember that when you apply the process... NO AGENDAS! In other words apply the process in the traffic regain the power that is stored in those eggs completely (as much as is possible at that time) and then move into gratitude towards yourself for being soooo powerful and creative to actually have created a traffic jam enroute to whereever you are going! GRATITUDE is major in this equation.

Well I don't really ever have to deal with traffic jams here... Although I do come across the more than occassional tractor slowly moving down the highway! I have always been really good at creating these tractors in areas of the highway where there is just NO place to pass them! Oh yea! LOL! More importantly for me, I have this desire to move back to my California where I was raised. Before I had read BL... I absolutely hated living where I am in Walla Walla Washington! LOL! Since reading BL and processing a great many eggs and reclaiming lots of power... Walla Walla really isn't all that bad, actually don't tell anyone, but I am actually starting to appreciate the beauty of the Walla Walla Valley! That is a major secret though!!! That does not say that my desire to move back to California isn't still there, but I am okay staying here till my ES allows that move or whatever move is in my future... I am learning not to limit the ES because it may have much more awesome plans for my life.

I use to really get frustrated with traffic and tractors... But I have learned that sometimes my ES puts those road blocks up in front of me for reasons! In 1989 I was supposed to be on the Oakland bridge when the big earthquake hit, but I wasn't because something else happened and I ended up not being in SF that day... I was still in the Bay Area, but I was not on the sections of road that collapsed. But most of the time our ES creates these situations so we can have an opportunity to reclaim power from those eggs.

You know if we could just "Poof" away a traffic jam, or "Poof" a new hologram such that... Say I could be living in a home of my own and not in a shelter... "Poof" all the discomfort away... Where is the fun in that? Stephen asked me that the other day? Although I am still trying to find the fun in living in a shelter and sharing one room with both of my kids... LOL Let me tell you as this hologram changes it is going to be soooooo awesome!!!! I am going to be sooooo grateful that I have a home to live in and an awesome life! This "Process is awesome in bringing us to a place of healthyness! So next time you are sitting in your car in a traffic jam that may be going slower than my tractors travel out here in the sticks! HEHE

Tell the truth about it!
Reclaim the power!
Then bask in the Gratitude of the fact that you created this traffic jam!

Then in five minutes later when the traffic still has not moved 5 or 6 feet, and you feel that frustration level rising... Start all over!

Remember, Stephen tells me this all the time when I am all upset and stuff that the traffic is not BAD or EVIL or what ever.... Try to not judge it! Trust me I know how hard this is! I am about to start my third month living in a shelter! You created the traffic to create a situation that would reveal to you EGGS! So rejoice in that!

I am starting to think that when I started my agendas got in the way of my true self, and so now I am learning to not apply agendas to the process and just let my ES take back the power and determine what my new hologram will look like! I don't know if it will get rid of the tractors or not.... Maybe I create those tractors as a way of spending more time with myself! You know it is like the car that insists on going the speed limit in front of you... I create those probably to slow myself down so I don't get a ticket... I am sure someday I will be able to create the drive with out the police cars there if I want to! Heheee!

Love and Gratitude zartgirl Sj
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Old 10-12-2007, 04:13 PM
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so then how do you apply intent without having an agenda? isnt that contradictory?


as you say your ES stopped you from going onto the bridge before the earthquake... didnt your ES also CREATE the earthquake in the first place?

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Cool Agendas

Hehee, Yea! That is the tricky part Applying the process without an agenda! When I first read that in the BL book... I was like "WHAT? HOW? WHY?". Well he explains it quite well in the chapter that he introduces you to the process of Why.

To be honest until I started to read "The Power of Now" by eckhart Tolle I really had a hard time doing the process without an agenda! That and a lot of time spent talking with Stephen and Grace on IM and phone. The only way I can apply the process without an agenda, is to be in the NOW. For me that was hard, cause I did not like the NOW as my hologram is not the way I wanted it to be. Well I still want my hologram to change in a major way, but I have given up on determining how it will look exactly!

Now you are probably thinking but if you give up on how it will look then how will you create what you want in your hologram. I trust my ES! My ES knows what my true self wants more than I do. When you give up YOUR AGENDA (which is future thinking and placing an oppinion or judgement on what ever is making you uncomfortable), then you just apply the process, and observe (from the power of Now) all the chatter going on in your head (a major part of that is your agenda) you neutralize the slow vibrations and allow the process to work and your true self to reclaim power from the eggs.

But when you apply the process with an agenda... You are actually placing limits on the process and less power can be reclaimed. In the book it says that an agenda will nulify the process, because you are passing judgement. I believe that when we have an agenda we are actually reinforcing the eggs instead of collapsing them.

Trust me! This was a major blockage for me! It really held me back in my journey through phase 2. One reason was that my agenda was limiting, but 2nd was that when my hologram did not change to exactly what I wanted as you said the traffic did not get out of your way, I got really frustrated and angry and thought this is not working! You can ask Stephen who patiently talked to me and got me turned back around until the next time I did not get it Poofed into my hologram. It was both Stephen and Grace who have been working with me as a tag team, walking me through this and teaching me all this. It was not till this week that I did not get the job I wanted and everything I was thinking it would provide for me, that the big breakthrough came. Okay I have also been attempting to read the Power of Now... Attempting, because it is hard for me to read... Not as in I don't understand it, but it scares me a little bit, but I am starting to soak in what I am reading... I think I about ready for the book now! LOL!

Let me tell you something though... When you give up your agenda, and just apply the process. Learn to observe your self chatter going on in the mind, and start blasting those memes out of the mind... You come to this place where Walla Walla can be beautiful, and sitting behind a tractor going very slow on a highway is an awesome opportunity to enjoy your own company or that of your families. I find it a great time to sit an observe my self chatter, and you know what as you learn to observe you start to neutralize the negative memes that are self defeating. They begin to make no sense at all! There is a peace in this life when you stop living with agendas and start to let life just flow.

Today, I thought it would be good to take my Washington Drivers test, and get my Drivers licence moved from Oregon to WA. This afternoon I have a deep desire to take my teenager for a long walk around the park. In between I will work on some tests for the temp job agency. I am starting to just let my ES lead me to where I need to be. It is actually quite fun and adventurous, but relaxing. My ES knows exactly where my good job is, and it knows exactly what I will do beyond that! Today is just about today.

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P.S. I know this is hard to swallow, but your ES has much bigger more awesome things in store for you than you do!
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Old 10-12-2007, 07:14 PM
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Wonderful Sallyjane :)

This brought tears of joy to my eyes:

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Let me tell you something though... When you give up your agenda, and just apply the process. Learn to observe your self chatter going on in the mind, and start blasting those memes out of the mind... You come to this place where Walla Walla can be beautiful, and sitting behind a tractor going very slow on a highway is an awesome opportunity to enjoy your own company or that of your families. I find it a great time to sit an observe my self chatter, and you know what as you learn to observe you start to neutralize the negative memes that are self defeating. They begin to make no sense at all! There is a peace in this life when you stop living with agendas and start to let life just flow.
Thank you SO SO MUCH!

You have an incredible gift in how you write. You have an amazing way of both explaining the more technical but also sharing the feelings (the more important part) behind the experiences you are having!

Love and light,

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"be in the now" now im really going to have fun with your head...

if there is no such thing as "time" then define "be in the now"
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Old 10-13-2007, 12:24 AM
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actually im having a much easier time with BL than i am with the Two point.

when i Tell the Truth, it is easy to think "this is not real" and then reclaim the power. but as a passive technique, it is frustrating when you want to move forward instead of reclaiming eggs from your "past".

i am having fun with all of this right now, and my wife looks at me funny when im deep in thought and then burst out laughing for no apparent reason.
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Time to share a thought about time! :D

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"be in the now" now im really going to have fun with your head...

if there is no such thing as "time" then define "be in the now"
I love to have fun with my head, so why shouldn't you?

Time, as shared in The Power of Now is either Psychological Time or Clock Time.

Psychological time is CREATED by the Ego-mind for its own reasons of survival. Living in the past and creating an identity of 'self' based on experiences, events, acquisitions (materially or otherwise) is the goal of the ego-mind.

The ego-mind also creates the idea of Future by living in a future. A future where there is 'Salvation', namely, 'if I can only have, do or be this, then I will be 'happy, fulfilled, complete'. This is also the place of energy-wasting worries, wherein no benefit is received except by the ego-mind's resulting further entrenchment of a false 'self'.

Psychological time is an illusion and false, for there is no other place but the Now. As I will share, even the 'Now Moment' as it is often called, is not TIME.

First though, Clock time is something created by consciousness, illusory as well, for the use of experiencing life SITUATIONS. Your 'life' is not the same as your life situations. Your LIFE goes beyond time and space and exists, it just IS. Clock time is useful and allows for a temporary experiential existence on the physical plane. Beyond this plane, where there is no time experience, things are perceived all at once, like a big wide schmear of events, as opposed to the perception of linear time, the step by step,existence that is what we are normally accustomed to.

So for me, being in the Now is stepping out of time. In that place of BEing and an awareness of all that IS, is where the Ego-mind dissolves. It is a very INSECURE entity. And entity is a pretty accurate description. IT is NOT YOU. The ego has some value, but not when it runs your whole life including all your perceptions. This is the source a particularly insidious insanity that affects human life on the planet today. Living without awareness of the Ego-mind is living unconsciously, giving up your power of choice to unconscious programming that at some point, you (just a general 'you' here, not picking on YOU lol) may decide no longer serves you.

Bringing about the Observer to simply put attention on the Ego-mind, in the Now, dissolves it and all its games. This is INCREDIBLY POWERFUL and cannot be overemphasized. However, one has to be ready to embark upon this course. The Observer is like the proverbial big flashlight on the alleged criminal who is undergoing interrogation. Shining that flashlight of the Observer brings out the Truth of what is going on!

I believe the Now moment is out of time because I ask: Just how long is the 'present'? A second? A millisecond? A picosecond? How small do we go to say 'this is how long a moment is? I say that it is not measureable, for it is not 'in time', at least not by any means I am aware of.

In Gratitude,

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"be in the now" now im really going to have fun with your head...

if there is no such thing as "time" then define "be in the now"
You are going to have fun with my head? Sorry I don't mean to laugh so hard, but well as I always tell Stephen who talks about intellectualizing... I have an advantage because I don't have an intellectual particle in my body! I don't know if it is because I am an artist who lives in her own little world or because I am blond clear to the root...
Trust me I have frustrated more than a few!

Here is the deal, I was trying to explain this to someone else and even my 13 year daughter that you have to read BL and the Power of Now and books like that with your heart not your mind. If you try to read with you mind then you will analyze every little part of it.

I think the real reason I do not intellectualize is because as a kid and a very creative kid, I was what they would today label with a learning disability... Well I actually learn differently than most do. I finally just got frustrated with school and learning and checked out. I was already a creative spirit, so I found it easier to go to what I thought of as my safe place, where I could create my world anyway I wanted to. I would then draw that world out on paper, and later paint it on canvas. I learned quickly to get the smart kids to do all my homework while I would draw pictures. My smart friends still talk about this and laugh! I promise that I did not beat them up or anything!

Do you have a favorite music that touches the heart? It moves inside your spirit as you listen to it. That is how you want to read these books. I read all books this way. If it does not touch my spirit, then I put the book down till it does, or I don't read it! If you read these books with your spirit and not your mind you will come to understanding much quicker and find that inner peace. Eventually, you will also reach that point where your hologram starts to take on the image of what your true self really wants for you!

For me the NOW is not about time... It is a place where I find peace and understanding about things I have never understood before! It is really hard to put into words that which you know intuitively. It is something you have to feel and experience for yourself.

For me life is about dancing to a different beat. It is about speaking to the spirit and feeling, touching, experiencing words instead of reading them. This journey for me is to return to that place where I can create my own world. This can not happen in the mind, but has to happen in the spirit!

Love and Gratitude zartgirl sj
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two excellent replies! thank you both.




my point of that was to bring attention to the ME method of time travelling.
if time can be "observed" in numbers going backwards, then it should also work forwards. imagine you are starting guitar lessons. you should be able to two point with this intention "how would my guitar skills be if i practiced everyday for 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 years?" or something of that nature.

is this subject broached in the seminars?

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two excellent replies! thank you both.
my point of that was to bring attention to the ME method of time travelling.
if time can be "observed" in numbers going backwards, then it should also work forwards. imagine you are starting guitar lessons. you should be able to two point with this intention "how would my guitar skills be if i practiced everyday for 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 years?" or something of that nature.
is this subject broached in the seminars?
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You are CORRECT!

I have used M.E. this way several times!

The subject is broached I'll say, YES!

Interest piqued a wee bit more, hmmm?

In gratitude!

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ya, my mind never stops, and i dont think i would want it to. ive read both books, just trying to perfect technique... errr resume the results i was getting at first.






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You are CORRECT!

I have used M.E. this way several times!

The subject is broached I'll say, YES!

Interest piqued a wee bit more, hmmm?

In gratitude!

tephen
Aren't you being the tease now, Stephen!

Might you not be willing to say more? Please? You've certainly piqued my interest! For what purposes might one do that? I'm having a little trouble getting my creative thinking cap on.

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my point of that was to bring attention to the ME method of time travelling.
-b
Umm... Well I have not bought the ME book or studied any of the ME yet. I am very interested in both ME and CEM...

I am still working on the Power of Now book. You said your mind never stops! Mine never really got started! I think it is an Artist thing, because we tend to naturally tap into the creative spirit naturally instead of into the brain. That said... It takes me a long time to read some books, because they overwhelm me! I literally have to set them down and just let my heart process the information at its own pace. My mind never even knows why I have to set it down and not read for awhile! I am not even sure what I got hung up on in the Power of Now or why! I just know I had to put the book down for a while. The bonus to this is that once it enters and is processed... I go into a hyper growth spirt! My ES shows me emence amount of truth about who I am and reclaims huge amount of power for me!

So, I know that you are probably still trying to figure out how to apply the process without an agenda! LOL Thats okay! It took me a while too!!! I feel the need to challenge you to try to attempt to turn off the brain for a while! Intellectualism will keep you banging your head up against the wall and may be the reason why NO AGENDA is so hard for you! In the Power of Now it talks about how the constant running of the brain or mind is actually counter productive to acheiving all that you are trying to achieve. For me it meant turning off the constant chatter of memes or negative thoughts like "you arn't worthy" and that kind of thing... But for you it will be that constant analyzing of every word you read!

I have noticed in your posts that each post I answer for you, you come back and one word has triggered a whole new thought pattern, and your brain is now off and running in a new direction. This is your minds way of distracting you and keeping you from the Real Magik that Stephen talks about! Stephen would be a good person to talk to about this as he has told me, that this was the thing that really slowed him down!

Now the way you do that is to become an observer of this pattern. When a single word triggers the mind to start running in a new direction, sit back and watch it with your spirit. Observe every moment of the analyzing, and look at where it is taking you! Is it distracting you from the real message that your ES was trying to show you? Probably! Your mind wants you to listen to it and not to your ES. So when your mind picks out a word and starts to run with it, observe it and also observe what it is trying to distract you from. You have a lot of information in your mind, but now it needs to go to the heart, so you can feel it and experience it, and live it!

Remember, that you are creating both me and Stephen here to tell you some of these things. I find it interesting that you picked an intellect and a creative spirit to work together! That was some awesome creation on your ES's part! Although Stephen is an intellect, he has learned to shut down the mind and feel it like I do naturally! I tell you it will make all this so much easier when you shut off the mind and tap into the feelings, and actaully start to experience it and live it! You think this is exciting now! Just wait till your mind is out of the picture. The book "The Power of Now" is a book I would recommend to you to read. It will really help you to turn off that constant running of the mind that is distracting you from the magik you want to experience!

Love and Gratitude
zartgirl Sallyjane
P.S. you are an amazing creator, because over the last few days I have been dealing with a head cold (applying the process to regain the power from a pattern of chronic discomfort over the years). I have to tell you I believe the only coherrent thoughts I have had were the ones I wrote to you! I had a problem even applying the process to this discomfort, because I would forget what I was doing in the middle of it! So to be able to write out anything coherent... Is and amazing creation! LOL!
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i have purposely developed my brain to be somewhat "one tracked" to help me stay more focused. the only problem, as you pointed out, is that i cant always pick what track im on!! but here is the good news, eventually i always come back to the original topic... as i seem to keep them always at hand. i imagine this is sort of like a train, with the Engine as the current thought, and all others i want to address get organized behind it like the rest of the cars. once i exhaust the engine, it goes to the back and the next thought comes up.

amazingly, these last two years i have been able to run "multiple trains of thought" at the same time. it gets very tiring after awhile though.



artistic... hmm, if i were to class my artsitic abilities, it would be like that of van Gough or Pablo Picasso. (intellectual artists)
my family on my moms side is all artists... my grandfather is an accomplished painter, my uncle owns a huge Graphic Design studio in Chicago(which i also studied for a while), my other uncle used to draw flawlessly, his sons are drawing experts, and even my mom is into interior decorating.
im not good at freehand art like painting or drawing, but as far as design goes, i can hold my own, and i also do natural and abstract photography.
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Cool One tracked...

That is cool that you have that design instinct... I also believe that you could learn to draw and paint... My guess is that you judge yourself to harshly! You try to make it perfection... I am guessing this just from reading your posts. One thing I learned early on is that nature is not perfect (well it is in the fact that it is nature and made the way it is, but..). Take a flower... Not every leaf is shaped the same, and flowers are not perfectly symetrical either. When I was little I use to try to draw them symetrical and perfect, but it was not till I just allowed myself to draw the imperfections of the flower that the flower looked perfect! Does that make sense?

Hmmmm... So what does this have to do with busting loose? Everything! You said you would be an intellectual artist one who spends great deal of time planning and organizing a painting... I find it interesting that you chose Van Gough... The man went MAD! I am not sure if it was from trying to reach perfection or licking / cleaning his brushes in his mouth (Lead poisoning) or a combination of both. The point being that striving for perfection with the mind is insanity!

When I paint I paint from the heart... Yes, I have an idea of what I want to paint, but it is not till I start to put the paint on the page that the true idea comes to life. I do not see a completed painting when I start. I do not see a completed design when I start with my illustration or graphic design. I start to work and the image or story starts to come to life on the page. Sometimes I paint with my right hand and sometimes I paint with my left hand... Whatever strikes my fancy! Sometimes the original message changes completely with my paintings. What is interesting is that if you were to look at my work you would say I spend endless hours on details, but in actuallity my paintings look detailed but are not...

The reason I am telling you this is to get back to the idea of turning off the mind and really focussing on the feelings and the heart! I know this is going to be hard, because you have trained yourself very well to trust your mind. You have invested a lot into your mind, but in this journey it is about learning to trust your heart and your feelings and shutting down the mind... Not like becoming dull in thought, but to the point of turning off the ego and the constant chatter in your head that distracts you from connecting with your conciousness in a deep way. Trust me you will still be able to have awesome discussions! Stephen and Grace and my friends here all do! I believe more so, because we are not tied to the minds chatter and control!

The mind wants to control and limit us! Keep us away from our conciousness and unlimited abundance that is out there for us in every area of our lives. To get back in touch with your true self / Extended self the mind has to be shut down and the power reclaimed from it.

We are back to observing the mind and all its workings... And applying the process without agendas and reclaiming as much power as is absolutely possible. Here is the cool part when we get to the point of Busting Loose, we will then be in a place to create anything we want to create in our lives. As the author says "Play with any idea or concept we want to play with for the fun of it". You can then have appreciation (money) just appear in your accounts, or you can create a business model to create the appreciation. You get to choose how the actors in your hologram act when interacting with you... You will be in full charge of your world, in a way that goes way beyond what your mind is offering you. Your mind is actually controlling you not you controlling your mind (even as hard as you try to control it, it still controls you). Your mind is part of your ego, and it does not want to loose control of you so it is going to do everything possible to keep control of you.

Hmmmmm... just in case you are wondering... I don't sidetrack easy! Because, I work from the heart... It will not let me get off track when working with you. Your ES created me here to tell you this and because I am working from the heart... I am led to just keep on this same subject till it sinks in or I get led to another subject or person to keep going on. Now you have a choice to choose to do what I am talking about or not! That is the awesomeness of all of this... We have a choice in it! I am still learning too, and I have only been here for a short while soaking up the information from others. So when I started answering your posts it was definitely a heart thing because my mind still does not think I know anything! I think I will keep it that way, because then I can not depend on it!

Love and Gratitude zartgirl Sallyjane
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HI

thank you for all that you have all shared.

I am not going to work today cuz my boy is fighting a chest cold, and he need mom to take care of him..

well, or i created this so that the HUGE egg that is here could comeinto my hologram and show itself...which is more likely...
I get pissy when things don't go my way... and when things are interfering with my AGENDA... which yes the agenda in it self if it actually worked would make life seem easy and fluid...... but i guess it's all the stuff in between that matters, and that is where god/ES is....
The Power of NOW, was recomended to me by Pamela and stephen and now it is pasted all over these posts....

Darn library....lol Someone else has my book

I would love to hear more about the diving into the uncomfortable feelings, as that I think i am/have felt uncomfortable most of the time... and therefor to hear of ones process of doing this would be helpful i hope.

thank you SallyJane for posting on the ways of reconnecting to self... that has helped me be on the moment more... like siting in silence and listening within the silence... been doing that everynight since you sujusted it... and also listening to music that touches my soul... I am working on the creative stuff...
have bought the ingredients for my favorite cake...
almond cherry bunt cake...YUM
and am also getting the art supplies for my son, he's excited about that...
Crazy thing is...I find that my ego or whatever it is, is constantly side tracking me...

In the moment, In the moment, In the moment
It's the only thing on my mind right now...
can't wait to get "The Power Of Now"

What i find helps me too, is that when something happens to me...lol...OK, in my hologram, then i tell myself that this doesn't give me identity, it's not who i am....

and it doesn't make me whi i am... those things are illusion created by me to convince me that i am the opposite of who i am....And Holy COWFISH... they seems so damn real... wow am I ever powerful to have created this.....

Although when convinced of it's realness, it sure has been difficult to come back to that or even wrap my mind around it.

thank, love and gratitude......Adrienne
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Take a flower... Not every leaf is shaped the same, and flowers are not perfectly symetrical either. When I was little I use to try to draw them symetrical and perfect, but it was not till I just allowed myself to draw the imperfections of the flower that the flower looked perfect! Does that make sense?
yes, it makes perfect sense, according to your specific perception. i do see the illusion of the beautiful flower(my favorites thinsg to photograph) but i REALLY like the cells, DNA, and atomic structures... which are perfectly symmetrical.

i bounce back and forth between the two, trying to find that perfect balance between symmetry and asymmetry, chaos and order, good and bad, light and dark, Yin and Yang... at the same time.

after all, to observe one doesnt make the other go away, they both are still there regardless of it being a hologram, light, frequency, ether or whatever.
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The music in the silence

Adam Ant (I believe is Brian, right?)

I was reminded of something in Adriennes post...

The Silence! Can you stand it? When people ask me what my favorite music is or song... I always say the same thing "The MUSIC in the SILENCE" it is not performed by any human band, it just is there when you sit quietly in he silence tuning out any noise that man might make where you are. Most people can not stand silence as it drives them nutty. They have to have their MP3 players or stereos or whatever making noise drowning out the silence. To me there is music there that is more beautiful than anything the human mind can make! It is so totally awesome! It is in the silence that I paint my best paintings, and it is in the silence that I write my best creative short stories, and it is the silence that I often get the answers to my toughest questions, or where I left my keys... It is there in the silence that you can hear what I have always called that small still voice (that is a bible reference, because that is my training), but what you really find or hear is GOD, your ES, the Field, the Universe, or whatever you want to call it. It is in the silence that you can be in the NOW, and really listen to your intuition / heart / whatever you call it...

Argghhhhhhh! Again, it is in the silence that the mind screams the loudest, and that is why most people do not have the courage to brave the silence and want to avoid it at all costs! In the Silence is a place where you can really just sit and observe your mind and see it for what it is! The reason your mind will scream at you is because it does not want you to hear that small still voice, your true self calling to you to remember ME! It has to desparately fight against the silence, because the silence is not silent at all, there is beautiful music in the SILENCE!

I challenge you to sit in the silence and observe your mind and listen for the music in the Silence! It is Freakin' Awesomeness!

When I was still in my house with my x, I lost my ability to hear the music in the Silence (Field), because all I could hear was his voice telling me awful things about who I was, but since I have left I can now sit in the Silence and listen to the music there! Let me tell you, the Silence never tells me that I am awful or bad or anything else negative! The Silence sees Awesomeness in me!

Adrienne was telling me that when she sits in the Silence and listens to it, it is easier to apply the process of the Busting loose. I think she is right! Even when I am driving with my kids in the car and need to apply the process, I have to ask my kids for Quiet time, so Mom can Process this discomfort! It is also easier to stay focussed on the process and not get distracted and forget what you were doing.

Love and Gratitude
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Old 10-16-2007, 01:05 AM
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silence... i could stand for some of that. i have tinnitus in my ears from working with heavy weapons in the military. there is no silence for me.
when others talk about hearing the "HU" all i hear is a solid tone, like one would hear in the classic "This is only a test of the american broadcast system" doooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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Smile Ouch!!!

Brian, that would be very uncomfortable! I personally can hardly stand that sound when they test the emergency testing system!

Remember how I told you a few posts up that I have frustrated more than a few... (mostly men don't know why?)

Okay here is my suggestion...

Hmmmm... remember in the book how it says to process any discomfort? Well I believe this qualifies as serious discomfort!

So as you feel this discomfort (which is probably all the time apply the process... Now here is the deal apply the process without an agenda
Yea I know it seems logical to want to apply the process to get rid of the ringing in the ears, right? But instead just apply the process while being in that place we call the NOW! Don't worry if it shuts off the ringing right away or not... Just keep applying the process! The point is to reclaim the power that the discomfort holds from you. Eventually, as you reclaim more and more power from that egg, and other eggs healing comes. As you start applying the process to that issue, it might bring about more issues from the time you spent in the service...

For me when I first started I was applying the process to all the discomfort I had from my divorce and custody issues. I was applying the process all the time! Ofcourse for a while I had an agenda to get what I wanted from the situation... Nothing happened! Then I finally came to the understanding that I could have NO Agenda! 1. because it was interfering with me reclaiming the power from the eggs being shown to me. 2. What I wanted is most likely a lot less than my ES wanted to give to me. So just apply the process and know that a total transformation will take place in you. It will be more awesome than you can even imagine!

Here is another thing... Watch what you say and how you say it. For years I HAD a chronic sinus and bronchial problems. So when I started to feel my sinus discomfort this last week, not only did I apply the process but I started rephrasing what I said about it. Notice that I said here that I HAD a chronic, because I do not want to give power to the egg I was processing. So start to rephrase any statements that refer to the ear discomfort you had in the past, not that you have it still.

Well enough harping on this subject! Like I said I have frustrated many!

Love and Gratitude Sallyjane zartgirl
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WOW, BL is really mind blowing. It will take awhile to accept all that. I started to practice The Process at the moment I ve read about it as I got so many issues comming directly to me like a big truck . But I got the power from the Eggs.
I think Phase 2 is a foundation for building a new life - better game to play.

Do you think ME is a tool to help you in The Process or is it a Phase 2 tool, when you allready bust loose?
How do you think PATHS relates to Pahse 1 and Phase 2 tools?
As I see it and understand the book, everything what is important is the Process and getting back the power with no agendas to play the Human Game and to make it more fun and all other tools are obsolete....
Huh, I get more questions with every chapter....now I understand how most of you felt...
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no frustration here, i dont have any desires to change you.




as for the rest, i have been getting better and better at this and the ME processes. Busting loose for defense(reactive) and ME for offense(proactive)
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