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Old 05-04-2007, 09:24 PM
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Interesting Post Regarding QXCI/SCIO

A very real danger exists for the future of QXCI/SCIO Therapists/practitioners because untrained people are buying QXCI/SCIO machines, believing that they do not need any academic knowledge of pathology or remedies because the QXCI/SCIO machine is capable of infallible information. [which it is not] Unlike the Allopathic/orthodox medical profession, any lay person has access to the QXCI/SCIO machines. Short seminars by the brokers are regulary attended by these lay people who then have ready access to such machines. This situation reflects adversely on well-trained therapists and practitioners who, due to their knowledge of anatomy, physiology and pathology and methods of treatment, have a reference point for any illness and remedy selection made by an instrument. In this setting, dangers from the subjective factor are minimised and an approach such as the QXCI/SCIO becomes a valuable addition to the other skills of the therapist/practitioner.


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The above post was found at the Yahoo Group: qxci-english : qxci-english


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Old 05-05-2007, 07:12 PM
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There is quite an interesting thread going on in the QXCI Yahoo group.

This device is no small leap in alternative health.

I personally have been using one for close to 4 years and have seen thousands of amazing results.

Below is a post that caught my eye!



No matter how much training and coaching that is given, there will
always be those irresponsible few who will not put the information
into practice---in any profession. Those people get overly excited
about the power of the tool they've been given and want to go into
the world and "treat" and "cure" everyone. The power is too
seductive and they don't seem to be able to stick to the simple idea
of "stress reduction". Quantum has made it quite clear that unless
you are a licensed medical professional you cannot say anything other
than "stress reduction" (and I have not had the formal training, only
the printed info that came with the package). I've found no fault in
their intention.

Thank goodness Quantum sells to anyone and everyone!!! I bought the
device simply for my own health, and it has saved my life. What
criteria must I have fallen under if Quantum was picking and choosing
based upon some set of rules as to who could and could not purchase
the device? Must I be a licensed medical professional? Here in
California biofeedback is deregulated. As far as I know, there are
no rules unless you personally want to protect yourself from
liability. It is your own responsibility.

Now that I have had the SCIO for a few months and am making a
recovery from a long list of problems, Lupus being among them, I know
that I will continue on with all of the training and on to an N.D.
and masters program. I thank God everyday that this wonderful device
came into my life. (My family also had great success with it when we
all came down with a stomach virus.) I would never want to keep this
device from helping every single person it could possibly reach.

The best you can do is to keep at the coaching. When you hear
someone using the words "treat" and "cure" and hear that they are
giving out reports, give them an earful----perhaps gently, perhaps
not. Help them to know that they are putting themselves in great
jeopardy liability-wise. Make the consequences of their actions
personal for them. I don't think anyone wants to be sued or have
jail time because they have been impersonating an M.D.

Thanks for listening to one very grateful person's two cents )

DeAnn Upton

P.S. Does anyone else have personal success stories, or is most
everyone here a practitioner???? I have a lot, but am shy about
sharing....
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Old 08-19-2007, 01:26 PM
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Kevin:
I went to the Bruce Lipton/Rupert Sheldrake seminar in Seattle.
It was really great, but the reason I am writing to you is that there were some of these SCIO machines being demonstrated in the lobby(It was a brand called XEVO but I thnk they told me is was the same thing). These are Biofeedback devices right?

I had a half an hour session and was intrigued. I am going in for a full 1.5 hour session this week. Can you tell me where you bought yours and how much I would expect to pay? Do you know which is the superior product?

I purposely did not tell the demonstator anything about my health and was blown away by the things that came up about my physical and emotional health.
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similar machines & PATHS technology secret

Hi Maggie,

After the QXCI, there were many companies copying the technology. At first none of them came close and now with more understanding of the methods, some in my opinion are as good and some may even be better. Some people find all of them difficult to believe since it receives and transmits information from and to the matrix.

PATHS uses the presentations and in addition to that, there is hardware that pumps the instructions directly into the matrix (collective). Basically into the aether and each person's subconscious mind can also receive these instructions from the collective in addition to the theater presentation.

The difference between the PATHS hardware booster that transmits info into the collective and the qxci and other technologies is that these other technologies are using simply frequencies that correspond to everything and PATHS hardware booster is NOT based on frequencies and that is why it is even more powerful and effective than anything else available anywhere.

Instead of frequencies, it is based on another principle that has never been discovered by anyone else. So when people wonder why PATHS is so strong, this is why
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Plus those SCIO machines cost thousands and thousands of $s.

I'll take PATHS over SCIO

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Old 08-20-2007, 11:40 PM
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maggieb,

The XEVO is just the name of a company that is marketing the SCIO device.

I did quite a bit of research on which distributor to buy from, at the time, several years ago, I bought from Quantum Alliance.

Since that time they have provided me with excellent support, I have been nothing but happy with both the SCIO and the support I have received from them.

Yes, they are biofeedback devices. I did the same as you, testing them before purchasing, then after I got it I was fully prepared to take advantage of the 30 day money back guarantee.

However, just like you experienced, I was (and am still) constantly amazed at how accurate it can read a person and help them.

If you would like to talk in depth about them, feel free to PM me.



P.S. How was the Lipton/Sheldrake conference?

P.P.S. The SCIO was $18,000 new. Now I think they are $18,500. The distributors are not allowed to discount, however, they can give freebies when you buy the machine. Quantum Alliance gave me several thousand dollars worth of freebies.

The QXCI (which is a step down from the SCIO is around $14,000. Also, you can pick up a SCIO or QXCI used, although I do not know if that would be a good idea.

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Old 08-25-2007, 01:20 PM
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I am in no way ready to give up PATHS. I think this machine complements PATHS.

Thanks for the info. I am going to go in for a few more sessions so that I can more fully understand this amazing machine. My take on this machine is that it pulls up health issues and deals with them, but that the emotional issues are what need to be dealt with to be fully healthy. The machine identified an issue I have with courage - now seems obvious to me... (I guess that is where Paths comes in...)

I am planning on buying one in the near future. I have always been intensely interested in natural health and helping people, so I feel this is way for me to do so.

The Bruce Lipton/Rupert Sheldrake seminar was really cool. They had never been together in a forum and were pretty good together. It was kind of a bare bones lecture on the history of our current scientific views, how they relate to health care, and the incredible power of the mind in healing. (lots on the placebo effect)

Of course, he discussed the issue of the subconscious and the necessity of clearing out all the negative input we receive from birth to age 6. (They discussed NLP, but didn't necessarily push any particular program, although they did have the SCIO(xevo) machines in the lobby)


Thanks all for your info.

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Old 08-25-2007, 06:10 PM
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Hi guys,
I LOVE my SCIO, and it was worth every penny.
It blows my mind all the time.
What amazes me is how I can work with clients at a distance---and get great results. Also how it works on physical, mental, emotional, etheric bodies, etc.
LOVE, LOVE, LOVE it!

I use other modalities too. Reiki, PATHS, EFT and now CEM. They all compliment each other.

It didn't matter if I thought I couldn't afford the SCIO at the time; I put it on credit. Then, through the amazing power of Creation and Synchronicity I had it paid off within three months. I simply allowed and accepted it to be paid off.

As you can tell, I highly recommend it. You must be willing to take the time to be educated on it; that is a must. It can be as simple or complex as you want it to be, but you must go to the classes. Dr. Drouin has a nice setup at IQUIM on the net with online classes for those who cannot travel to the free ones.

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Old 08-26-2007, 02:17 PM
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Thanks for your input. I agree that the training is important
I have had two sessions with two different people.
Their approaches were entirely different. One guy had a lot of training in the psychology field, so approached that aspect and pretty much stayed away from the nutrition advise (but still let the machine do the work), and the other person had more to say about the nutritional aspects. I am not sure which was better.

THis is fascinating. I am planning on another session in two weeks. And have actually talked my husband into a session, and he is not really into this stuff.
I have been studying nutrition for almost 30 years and think that would help me, but would take every bit of training and more. And of course, never give advice that I didn't understand. I think it is a terrific tool, and maybe a segue into PATHS, because I am beginning to truly believe that health is a matter of emotions and Paths seems to be a good answer for emotional health.

Cheers, Maggie
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hello,
i have read some of the things about PATHS, including this forums threads on it, but it still baffles me a bit. what exactly is it?

and here is something that is of concern to me. all of these machines, SCIO, Rife, etc. are all wonderful, but they are wonderful bandaides. sure, i believe that they do everything that they are reported to do... i have no doubts. BUT, they do not remedy the origins of the problem.

and what are the origins of the problem in 100% of all cases? the bodies immune system is not fully equipped to fight ALL infection, dis-ease, bugs, molds, toxins etc. that none of us can avoid.

if SCIO, Rife or PATHS successfully cures an ailment, this is an awesome blessing... but what prevents a reoccurance? constant use of the machines? what if you are in a place where this is not an option, like Africa?

what if i told you, that after these machines/PATHS cures your problem, that there is a way to ensure they NEVER become problems again? there is a way to fully equip your bodies immune system, and to flush out most of the causes to these problems?
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Hi Adam Ant,

Are you a fan of the music?

What questions do you have regarding Paths? Have you looked at the sales page at the various modules that are available? Try PATHS | Energize Your Mind ~ Transform Your Life and see if that answers your questions.

I believe that disease is an effect of not only our internal physical workings, but also of our mental, psychological, emotional and spiritual bodies if they are not in-sync and working at optimum capacity. They all interact and work together, but of course, the ways in which we manifest good or bad "effects" appear predominantly in our physical body and our emotional body.

What processes are you familiar with to make us better and assist us in enlightenment and consciousness?
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Old 08-27-2007, 04:48 AM
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Hi Jamie,
um, not exactly. i really like the name though as it has many different types of meaning to it.



my question about PATHS is about the method of delivery to the brain. im not asking specific proprietary info, but is it subliminal messaging, or color, light, or sound, pictures, symbology, swirls, blips or???

the reason i ask is because i saw it mentioned that PATHS goes beyond frequencies. this is an impossibility because EVERYTHING is a frequency. (or combination thereof)



hmmm, enlightenment... ill refer to things physical for now, as my post was in regards to physical illnesses and dis-ease.

i dont want to step on any toes here, as i am new to this forums. my only physical suggestions are to fully equip the body to deal with recovery/rebuild after PATHS, or Rife, or SCIO do their jobs.

how?
unaltered, unbleached, unprocessed, natural solar evaporated sea salt

-bryan

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Old 08-27-2007, 05:06 AM
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Hmmm. I don't know very much about the RDT technology and how it relates or if it does relate to frequencies. I do know that it is a universal language that was discovered that can communicate and send instructions directly to the sub-conscious. It is some sort of algorithm, I believe. The instructions are communicated via the theatre presentation - both through the audio and the visual. Beyond that, I know there is also computer wizardry at work... lol... involving things like REGs and all sorts of stuff. Does that help answer your question?

that's funny that you mention sea salt. I actually went and bought light grey sea salt crystals a couple of months ago and have been using it in lieu of ordinary salt. It's yummy!
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thank you, your reply did help me to understand a bit more.


as far as i know, there are only three companies in the world that make natural, unaltered solar evaporated sea salt.
Celtic sea salt, Himalayan Sea Salt, and De Souza. (some say Real Sea Salt also, but i dont believe it)
Himalayan and Celtic have some discrepancies that make them not exactly ideal. they are 100% better than table salt, but they are shore derived salts which tend to pick up excess pollution, silicates(must filter it a little), and also clay (red or grey) from the drying platforms.
DeSouza is pulled more than 50 miles away from shore, at a depth of 200 feet, and thus is the perfect salt.
natural sea salt contains 1535 possible physical binaries that your body can use. try matching that to centrum or flinstone vitamins!!

more on this later.

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I just started to use natural sea salt myself. Being a gourmet cook and former personal chef, my salt of choice was previously the coarse-grained kosher.

However, about a year or so ago, I noticed that many chefs were using grey salt - a natural sea salt. I found it at Trader Joes and now use it routinely. A little goes a long way

I did not realize it was so good for me - a nice plus
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if it is at all possible, add the salt after you have cooked the food. high heat will alter and destroy some of the beneficial properties of the salt. you still retain all of the minerals inside, but there are other aspects to sea salt that i have not yet mentioned, that are high heat sensitive.

i know in a professional type environment this is difficult to do, but when you cook for yourself, friends, or family, try to add it after you take it off the heat.

what is your specialty????
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The brand I got was the Celtic Sea Salt.


What other properties of salt lose their structure when exposed to high heat?
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Old 08-28-2007, 01:45 AM
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Celtic Sea salt is definitely one of the better ones (my second preference).

for now i will say that there are certain bonds that are formed from being solar dried that are destroyed in high heat.

if you would like, i will upload a chemical analysis of the Desouza and Celtic sea salt, given to our group directly from them.

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that would be awesome! Thanks Bryan!!!!!
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darn! the only analysis i found was that of Real Sea Salt.
Celtic Himalayan, and Desouza ALL had better analysis than this, but it will at least give you an idea.
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Old 08-29-2007, 05:48 AM
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DeAnn is so right about the importance of the training for the SCIO!

Although the SCIO is an amazingly powerful tool, the software is NOT very intuitive. In fact, many of the "therapies" are hidden in crooks and crannies of the hundreds and hundreds of menu screens.

When I got my SCIO from Quantum Alliance they included (at no extra cost) over 100 hours of DVD training.

Until you start actually working on one it is not possible to fully appreciate how difficult it can be to locate/navigate through the software. The training in that and in the principles of how the SCIO approaches restoring health are very useful in becoming a skilled/effective practitioner.



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my question about PATHS is about the method of delivery to the brain. im not asking specific proprietary info, but is it subliminal messaging, or color, light, or sound, pictures, symbology, swirls, blips or???

the reason i ask is because i saw it mentioned that PATHS goes beyond frequencies. this is an impossibility because EVERYTHING is a frequency. (or combination thereof)


-bryan
Hi Bryan

Jamie did a good job explaining the method of delivery to the brain. PATHS uses RDT via an online Theater Presentation (audio and video) to deliver "instructions" to the brain in a Universal Language, regardless of the spoken language of the individual.

These instructions are not frequencies (which is how the SCIO primarily works).

They are subliminal in the literal sense of the word, not in the commonly understood sense of the word. The conscious mind is not/cannot be aware of them, they are communicated Below the conscious minds ability to be aware of them.

Regarding your comment about frequencies...

Modalities that utilize frequencies (like the SCIO) are very effective. This is because every life form is vibrating at a certain frequency or frequencies.

If the frequency that my adrenal glands (as an example) are vibrating at is at less than optimum, then I will experience dis-ease. If the SCIO can "come along side" my adrenals and get them vibrating at the optimum frequency, this then eases the dis-ease.

HOWEVER, I would put forth the following concept
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Since thoughts become things, and since as a man or woman thinks in their heart, so are they, or as Moxie Mags put it so well in her Energy Field document- PATHS -My Answer to New Creations
Our internal conscious or subconscious thoughts, words, are many times the foundation for the frequencies we experience. Or to put it another way, the words in our minds affect the frequencies in our bodies.

So even if we get our body frequencies vibrating at the optimum (via the SCIO or some other method), it is altogether possible that the words in our minds will soon have our body frequencies back to a less than optimum level.

I believe that the reason PATHS modules are more powerful than the SCIO and other frequency modalities is because so many of the PATHS modules address the root (from which frequencies spring) of the words in our minds, not just they symptom (the less than optimum frequencies).

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Bryan,

Kevin has already said it well but on the frequencies...

For example

in one frequency set 292hz stimulates any ectoderm tissue in the body. so by sending 292hz to the body electromagnetically, pulsed leds/lasers, sound, etc... that will of course entrain damaged ectoderm tissue up to the 292hz and/or harmonics thereof.

PATHS for example and the instructions or affirmations if you want to compare them to that are sent not based on a=1 or b=2 or c=3 and if you want b you get a frequency of 2hz for example. it is a different principle than sending frequencies.

Yes everything has a frequency but in PATHS case, any frequencies involved will be incidental and not the method.
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Interesting Post

Regarding the training. I fully understand. I was contacted by Quantum Alliance, and it seems that they have quite a lot of training available now.
I would take outside classes as well. It would probably be a great segue into getting people involved in PATHS!

The person from QA said that some of the earlier machines that were sold, didn't offer as much training time.
I felt I was being interviewd as much as them by me. (maybe, maybe not, but my friend who also wants to buy one, felt the same thing)

I have another session set up for next week with a local practioner that QA says is one of their best.

Kevin and Aaron, these explanations are very helpful.


I have talked one of my friends into signing up for PATHS! yeah!
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thank you Kevin and Aaron for your explanation.

i have found through my consortium and through extensive research that even WORDS and THOUGHTS are ALL frequencies. so, in a fashion, PATHS is indirectly utilizing frequencies for it's funtionality. Every color, every sound, smell, every thought, word, cell, element, DNA, planets, all consist of vibrations/frequencies.

Dr Masaru Emoto has proven this through "Messages from Water", how water structure is affected by consciousness.
Masaru Emoto: Messages from Water
he shows how dispite language barriers, words all have the same signatures. he tested and proved this by writing the word "love" on the outside of bottles of water, but he wrote "love" in a different language on each bottle. he freezes these bottles and then photographs them to interestingly find that they all structure the water crystals in a similar way. of course no two crystals are the same, but they had a general structure similarity.
likewise he did this with "thank you" "i hate you" "adolf hitler" and many others. his work includes different types of music as well. hard core rock was shown to totally destroy the natural hexagonal structure of the water molecules.

most interesting (to me anyways) was his thought experiments. he had groups of people project blessings, thoughts, prayers, hate, love, etc towards the bottles, AND GOT THE SAME RESULTS AS THE WRITTEN WORDS!!! not only did it work on bottles of water, they selected various LARGE bodies of water in many different countries, ponds, fountains, rivers, etc. and everything resulted the same. they did before and after photos of the water, and even the dirtiest water was altered by mere thoughts and prayer alone.

this is what i am currently studying now, absolutely fascinating. there are also universal harmonics, cymatics, scales, notes that have different effects on matter, light, elements, magnetism, gravity, and much much more.

this ties in directly with the Coral Castle thread that was just started.

-bryan
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most interesting (to me anyways) was his thought experiments. he had groups of people project blessings, thoughts, prayers, hate, love, etc towards the bottles, AND GOT THE SAME RESULTS AS THE WRITTEN WORDS!!! not only did it work on bottles of water, they selected various LARGE bodies of water in many different countries, ponds, fountains, rivers, etc. and everything resulted the same. they did before and after photos of the water, and even the dirtiest water was altered by mere thoughts and prayer alone.


-bryan
Your quote above illustrates the distinction I attempted to make in my previous post.

Words/thoughts of words/prayers of words create/generate frequencies. Therefore, at least in some instances, words are more fundamental than the frequencies (they are the precursor and/or the creator of the frequencies).

Frequency therapy is powerful, but in many instances words (our internal tapes or thought programming) is much more powerful, because it is the root cause of so many frequencies.



P.S. Not many to go to far astray of the subject....here is a related illustration: If one were to believe in telepathic communication between two life forms that did not speak the same verbal language, how does one project their thoughts in their language and the other life form understand the communication in a different language. This happens in words, or in feelings that are expressed in words. Could this be the "Universal Language" that PATHS RDT uses?


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haha !! good on ya!
dont you see? it is all about perspective. an instrument that plays a certain frequency has the same effect as the spoken word as well.
it doesnt matter what method of delivery, only the understanding and the functions of them.


you are 100% correct about the universal language, it is the only way that different languages can understand each other without direct translation.
love is amor is agape is aisuru is 10hz (just example) doesnt matter if it is written, spoken, played, tapped, strummed, or whatever.

PATHS has to be frequency, it is just a more creative way of using it. (and obviously more effective in its delivery method)

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Interesting Kevin and Brian,
I communicate with my dog and she with me, as well as with other animals. I always explained that it was in pictures but when I really think about it, it is not in pictures really. To try and explain, it is sort of melt down pictures, that are distinctly kept very unclear and intentionally vague.
Sorry way off topic!!!
I love the Scio, no matter the brand name but even better yet, easier, less expensive PATHS!!!
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excellent!! i forgot about body language... that is another form of frequency. believe it or not, certain body postures create different geometrical shapes, which translates into guided, or directed frequencies.
hands on the hips(akimbo) or folded arms creates an angry tone, as two palms outstreched and facing up are a submissive/accepting tone.
try it out, it is fun.
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body frequencies

interesting. Have you done any studying on what different yoga positions mean or what frequencies they resonate with?
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