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Old 04-19-2007, 11:05 PM
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Question about Thyroid function

This is my question.

I seem to exhibit many of the symptoms associated with low thyroid function. The last time I had blood work, maybe 2-3 years ago, my thyroid results were normal.

I know you are not doctors, but if one were to subscribe to this module and does not have low thyroid function, are there any adverse affects or would it just not work at all? Also, do you think this could be used as a tool in weight loss along with the other modules?

Thank you for all the great and new products you continue to bring to us!

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It appears you are not sure that you know if your thyroid function is low, your last blood test was 2-3 years ago. HOWEVER, if your thyroid function is in the normal range you should NOT use the Thyroid Module without letting us know that you are in normal range.

NOTE: Thyroid test results of "normal" are measured in a "range", so one could be "normal" but on the low end, just above hypo.

The Improved Thyroid Function Module is specifically designed for persons with hypothyroidism.

If you feel you are borderline (still in normal range, but on the low end) or if you just want to maintain healthy thyroid function, you can use the Improved Thyroid Function Module IF YOU EMAIL US AND LET US KNOW YOU ARE IN THE NORMAL RANGE. We will make a few adjustments to the module for you, so that it is optimum for you.

Regarding weight loss ~ If you are below normal range (hypo) or on the low end of the normal range, then this Module may be of assistance in losing weight.



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Old 06-15-2007, 01:11 AM
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My thyroid module results

I am so excited, I just had to share.

The question in the above post that the home office received was from me. I sent them this question the day the thyroid module was released.

To back up a bit, since I was a teenager, I have had a lump on my thyroid. It has been tested and biopsied several times over the years, especially when I change doctors. There has never been anything "wrong", it is just a lump.

I have blood work done about every three to four years and always my thyroid function has come back normal. Meanwhile, for as long as I can remember, my body temperature has been abnormally low. My normal body temperature has always been about 96.5 - always! In fact, whenever I have gotten very sick with the flu, and I feel like I am burning alive with fever, my temperature is then about 99 to 100. My skin always feels cold to Raymond(not to me) and Raymond's skin and legs always feel hot to me when we are laying in bed.

Knowing that low body temperature is a sign of hypothyroidism, along with other symptoms I have experienced, I was always surprised when my test results came back normal. However, after getting the reply from the home office, I then realized there is a range that is considered normal and perhaps I was at the lower end of it. So, I had bloodwork done.

When I called for my results, once again I was told my thyroid function was normal. This time I asked for the number and the range. Imagine my surprise when I found the range was very, very wide (can't remember the exact numbers right now) and I was just a tiny, tiny bit above abnormal! I would have never known to ask this question if it were not for the response from the home office.

With this information in hand, I sent an email to the home office, explained my test results and asked to be allowed to have the thyroid module, which they granted. I started the module on May 1 and my body temperature that day was 96.4.

I have been taking my temperature several times over the past two weeks and it is now consistently at 97.5! This is absolutely huge for me! This is an enormous improvement in only 6 weeks!

Simply amazing!
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Old 06-15-2007, 06:00 AM
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When I called for my results, once again I was told my thyroid function was normal. This time I asked for the number and the range. Imagine my surprise when I found the range was very, very wide (can't remember the exact numbers right now) and I was just a tiny, tiny bit above abnormal! !
HI, Pamela, your story is similar to mine. About ten years ago, my thyroid stopped functioning. I went on meds, and I have my blood tested every couple of years. Last time, about two years ago, I was again suffering from all the symptoms--unexplained weight gain, fatigue, mental confusion, dry skin, hair falling out--but my tests came back in the "normal" range. But my doctor told me that new research had been done that greatly narrowed the range from what it was. He said that the "normal" I was in actually meant I was deficient. He also said he could tell from my subsequent blood tests that my level had been diminishing every year. He increased my meds, and I am a new woman. Nothing like I was before, though. So, if your doctor used the standard (meaning old) range, and you were barely in it, then you are probably deficient, too. And it's great that the module is working for you!

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Old 06-15-2007, 05:23 PM
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Hello Pamela
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When I called for my results, once again I was told my thyroid function was normal. This time I asked for the number and the range. Imagine my surprise when I found the range was very, very wide (can't remember the exact numbers right now) and I was just a tiny, tiny bit above abnormal! I would have never known to ask this question if it were not for the response from the home office.
Here's a link to more info about the thyroid test Thyroid Resources: What Your Doctor Doesn't Know May Make Your Life Miserable
Most doctors only test TSH (Thyroid Stimulating Hormone), but that then affects T4 and T3.

"Some doctors may go a step further and look at your free T4 -- but not the free T3. To further complicate matters, the actual test procedures most labs use to test total T4 and T3 are essentially antiquated; there is new technology that can test the free hormone levels much more accurately.

In addition, without also testing the free T3, the doctor has no way of knowing if your body is properly converting the T4 it makes into T3. Just because the TSH level is normal doesn't mean it is present in your system in sufficient amounts, and just because your free T4 level is good doesn't mean your body is converting it like it should. "If you are exhibiting signs of low thyroid, your free T3 will be low despite your TSH being 'normal'," says Dr. Gordon. "The TSH only shows what is going on in your hypothalmus, not in your liver or elsewhere in your body."

There's a few more helpful links on that page but it looks like the PATHS module is doing the trick

With Love and Gratitude
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Thanks, Firehorse
I know my grown daughter has always had a problem. She is now 37 years old. When she was as young as 8 we would ask her Doctor to check her thyroid. Always came back within normal ranges. But, she always has been swollen around her neck where her thyroid is located and a tendency to be overweight. Looks exactly like a goiter. She also was diagnosed as having exceedingly high cholesterol. The first time this happened was when she was 13. We were told she had the cholesterol levels of an old man! We were not junk food eater. My kids never even ate a tv dinner until they were teenager and staying at a friends house,(I might add they didn't like them much either ).
In the latter years the only way she can lose weight is to virtually starve herself. She is about 60 pounds over the healthy range. Her cholesterol is in the 300's ( Enough to kill a Horse). They put her on medication, that was suppose to help bring it down. The side effect of the medication is liver damage
It also made her violent ill. She tried it for about 6 months, her cholesterol dropped about 5 points. She could stay on it because she was so ill that she could hardly get out of bed!
I have always know the real reason behind all this is her thyroid. My Mother had a problem all through her life with thyroid and so did my husband when he was young.
All I can say is GRRRRRRRRRRR to the medical community!! I hope there are no Docs her that i have offended.

Aloha
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Thanks, Firehorse
I know my grown daughter has always had a problem. She is now 37 years old. When she was as young as 8 we would ask her Doctor to check her thyroid. Always came back within normal ranges. But, she always has been swollen around her neck where her thyroid is located and a tendency to be overweight. Looks exactly like a goiter. She also was diagnosed as having exceedingly high cholesterol. The first time this happened was when she was 13. We were told she had the cholesterol levels of an old man! We were not junk food eater. My kids never even ate a tv dinner until they were teenager and staying at a friends house,(I might add they didn't like them much either ).
In the latter years the only way she can lose weight is to virtually starve herself. She is about 60 pounds over the healthy range. Her cholesterol is in the 300's ( Enough to kill a Horse). They put her on medication, that was suppose to help bring it down. The side effect of the medication is liver damage
It also made her violent ill. She tried it for about 6 months, her cholesterol dropped about 5 points. She could stay on it because she was so ill that she could hardly get out of bed!
I have always know the real reason behind all this is her thyroid. My Mother had a problem all through her life with thyroid and so did my husband when he was young.
All I can say is GRRRRRRRRRRR to the medical community!! I hope there are no Docs her that i have offended.

Aloha
Keoi
I'm glad that helped

If she still has those problems she can still get her levels checked out or visit a kinesiologist who can test for those or suggest she tries the PATHS thyroid module

With love and gratitude
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Old 06-19-2007, 02:05 AM
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We are going to put on PATHS!!!!
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Latest update re thyroid module

When I last posted regarding this on June 14, my body temperature had gradually risen to 97.5 degrees over a six week period. As of yesterday, my body temperature is now 98.0 degrees!!!

I don't ever remember my temperature at this level unless I was sick.
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Hi Pamela,
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When I last posted regarding this on June 14, my body temperature had gradually risen to 97.5 degrees over a six week period. As of yesterday, my body temperature is now 98.0 degrees!!!

I don't ever remember my temperature at this level unless I was sick.
That's great news

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That is fantastic Pamela!!!
Have you noticed anything else changing?

Aloha
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Old 06-27-2007, 12:58 AM
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These are awesome results.

I have a follow-up question. What if your thyroid is normal but your adrenals--your epinephrine levels--consistently measure low? Can the thyroid module address this? Thanks!
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