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    Usefull Combinations of Exsisting Inventions

    Hi all, I was thinking of some invention/inventor combinations, and came up with a mixture of devices I think could be really usefull.

    The idea is, (Earth battery) - (SSG) - (Van De-Graff machine) - (Plate "p' arrangement).

    Of course the way I envision it working is, a strong enough earth battery created by paralleling and series connecting several cells would power the bike wheel SSG which has a mag drive incorperated to drive a small Van De-Graff machine which arcs to a radiant energy receiver Plate "p", the energy collected by it's custom made HV caps could then be stepped down transformed and rectified for further use.

    The SSG could also be charging conventional lead acid batteries for backup for the setup to run from or other reasons. The SSG mag drive could be replaced by a generator coil and small electric motor or similar.

    The distance between the "p" plate and the Van De-Graff dome would determin the Van De-Graff out put voltage.

    So the progression of inventors would be, Stubblefield - Bedini - Van De -Graff - Tesla.

    Sorry about the coffee stain on the paper, I was out of paper, and it gives it a touch backyard experimenter, so I didn't bother to redo it.

    If it worked it would be a very good C.O.P. and fun to watch too.

    http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/...003.jpg?psid=1

    Anyone have any other interesting arrangement idea's.

    Cheers
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    That is EXACTLY how Jeff thinks, he has SHOWN that it takes a mix of things to get to the goods.

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    • #3
      Good idea, might as well charge the earth with the spike.

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      • #4
        G'day Ash,

        Originally posted by ashtweth View Post
        That is EXACTLY how Jeff thinks, he has SHOWN that it takes a mix of things to get to the goods.
        Yes I think the inventors would be proud to see it work, and co-operation of devices can work like co-operation of people with different skills.

        Sucahyo

        Good idea, might as well charge the earth with the spike.
        Yeah maybe it's easier to back pop an earth battery to increase it's capacity.(charge up)

        Cheers
        Last edited by Farmhand; 01-04-2011, 09:16 AM.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Iotayodi View Post
            Hi Iotayodi, I take it this is Ed Leedskalinin's (I think thats how it's spelled) i'm not familiar with his work. I can only guess from the drawing that we should pulse the solenoid. But I don't know why.

            Anyone know what that is ? Looks valid. What is "PMH" anyway ? Is that permanent magnet (something) ? Helper?

            Someone else will know, I think I have seen it somewhere.

            Cheers

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            • #7
              Lasersaber Video

              This does look interesting. What if the coil could be slid back and forth using
              current from the original setup ? I am referring to Lasersaber's demonstration.

              YouTube - lasersaber's Channel

              Could you get more current or voltage somehow ?


              FRC
              Last edited by FRC; 01-05-2011, 05:09 AM. Reason: spelling

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              • #8
                This might sound silly but is it a "magnetic" rectifier/generator ? Just a wild guess.

                Umm in that video isn't he generating the current by moving the conductor (test probe) through the concentrated magnetic field of the Permanent Magnet Holder ? Now I know what it is called. The PMH's field would now be very concentrated I imagine.

                And almost all of the field line's from the magnetic field he created would be in or near the steel, wouldn't they ? I really don't know, just guessing.

                That does look to very usefull, and if you use all of the field strength for long enough it would easily be considered O.U. Excelent Stuff.

                Can anyone confirm or deny that, I won't argue either way.

                Cheers

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Farmhand View Post
                  This might sound silly but is it a "magnetic" rectifier/generator ? Just a wild guess.

                  Umm in that video isn't he generating the current by moving the conductor (test probe) through the concentrated magnetic field of the Permanent Magnet Holder ? Now I know what it is called. The PMH's field would now be very concentrated I imagine.

                  And almost all of the field line's from the magnetic field he created would be in or near the steel, wouldn't they ? I really don't know, just guessing.

                  That does look to very usefull, and if you use all of the field strength for long enough it would easily be considered O.U. Excelent Stuff.

                  Can anyone confirm or deny that, I won't argue either way.

                  Cheers
                  Farmhand, were you suggesting that the current was being generated by
                  movement of the probe ? I thought there was current when the probes were stationary. I was suggesting to tap this current, and somehow use it to
                  slide a loose coil over the lower bar, back and forth (solenoid like) to generate additional power. Would have to be magnetic, so might interfere
                  somehow unless it was shielded or positioned a distance away and attached to coil with non magnetic or plastic rod. I guess there would need to be some type of switching mechanism also.


                  FRC

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by FRC View Post
                    Farmhand, were you suggesting that the current was being generated by
                    movement of the probe ? I thought there was current when the probes were stationary. I was suggesting to tap this current, and somehow use it to
                    slide a loose coil over the lower bar, back and forth (solenoid like) to generate additional power. Would have to be magnetic, so might interfere
                    somehow unless it was shielded or positioned a distance away and attached to coil with non magnetic or plastic rod. I guess there would need to be some type of switching mechanism also.


                    FRC
                    Well I thought it could be a possibility, but now that you mention it. I am most likely mistaken of course, but I was just thinking now that the magnetic current oscillating back and forth or around or whatever was what was actually interacting with the conductors to generate current. Like i said i'm only guessing.

                    Maybe the drawing how it is already posted already generates power beacause of alternating or oscillating magnetic current in the PMH.

                    Maybe the criss cross coil thingy induces a polarity flip flop in the PMH, creating a temporary flux generator.

                    It is very interesting thats for sure.

                    I think i know what you mean too. I hope we can work it out.

                    More things to try.

                    Edit

                    Well after another look it does appear as though the two orange parts up the legs of the PMH are coils shorted in series. and the PMH is completed by the core of the coil at the bottom. One winding of the bottom coil is to charge or set the PMH by timed pulses and the other is the power take off.

                    It would not take much to set the PMH and it could even be done by a portion of the take off current after being rectified, fun to think about But i'm probably totally wrong.

                    Sounds like it might be worth a try.
                    Last edited by Farmhand; 01-05-2011, 09:55 AM.

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                    • #11
                      Farmhand

                      You sound like you are getting somewhere. Have more faith in yourself. We need
                      more people looking into this. Hopefully, some of the other brilliant minds around
                      here will take a look at this. I guess the only way to actually see if there is something here is to do actual trial and error experiments. I am currently trying
                      to work on something else. But would like to try later.


                      FRC

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                      • #12
                        Although we can use the PMH to transform DC into natural AC by running it through the PMH especially with the bar off. Leedskalnin tells us this is how the PMH works as a transformer. By putting two coils on the PMH and applying DC to only one of the coils, the output of the opposite coil is AC (please test this yourself). This is natural AC and it has a unique sensation to the touch.The Perpetual Motion Holder produces AC but its poles do not alternate.

                        Here Leedskalnin teaches how the alternating currents are made:

                        This is the way the North and South Pole individual magnets are running out of the coil's wire lengthwise. The reason the North and South pole individual magnets do not run across through the coils' wire as fast as they run in while in the coil is between the U shape magnet, the coil's wire is insulated, there is an air space around every wire and as it is known that the dry air is the best obstruction for the magnets to go through and as you know the coil is well insulated so the damp air does not get in. (Think damp NS coil) It is well known that it is many times easier for the magnets to run in metal than in air, now you see when the magnets run in the wire they hesitate to run out of the wire across the same way as they came in, so more of the new magnets are coming in the crosswise, then they can get out crosswise, so they get pushed out through the wire lengthwise. Now you know how the alternating magnetic currents are made.

                        * South Pole Individual Magnet ≈ Electron

                        * North Pole Magnet ≈ Proton

                        * South Pole Magnet = negative (-)

                        * North Pole Magnet = positive (+)

                        LEEDSKALNIN.COM: MAGNETIC CURRENT RESEARCH

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Iotayodi View Post
                          Although we can use the PMH to transform DC into natural AC by running it through the PMH especially with the bar off. Leedskalnin tells us this is how the PMH works as a transformer. By putting two coils on the PMH and applying DC to only one of the coils, the output of the opposite coil is AC (please test this yourself). This is natural AC and it has a unique sensation to the touch.The Perpetual Motion Holder produces AC but its poles do not alternate.

                          Here Leedskalnin teaches how the alternating currents are made:

                          This is the way the North and South Pole individual magnets are running out of the coil's wire lengthwise. The reason the North and South pole individual magnets do not run across through the coils' wire as fast as they run in while in the coil is between the U shape magnet, the coil's wire is insulated, there is an air space around every wire and as it is known that the dry air is the best obstruction for the magnets to go through and as you know the coil is well insulated so the damp air does not get in. (Think damp NS coil) It is well known that it is many times easier for the magnets to run in metal than in air, now you see when the magnets run in the wire they hesitate to run out of the wire across the same way as they came in, so more of the new magnets are coming in the crosswise, then they can get out crosswise, so they get pushed out through the wire lengthwise. Now you know how the alternating magnetic currents are made.

                          * South Pole Individual Magnet ≈ Electron

                          * North Pole Magnet ≈ Proton

                          * South Pole Magnet = negative (-)

                          * North Pole Magnet = positive (+)

                          LEEDSKALNIN.COM: MAGNETIC CURRENT RESEARCH

                          Thank you very much Iotayodi, I almost fell off my chair when I realised what I think I just read. This could be very very helpfull. I really want to scope some natural AC. That will be interesting. PMH Transformer, WOW. I am definately going to try that. But first i'll learn as much as I can from that page you linked and wherever it leads me.

                          Cheers

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