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  • Cell Phone Use and Brain Cancer

    Hi Folks,

    I've been quite interested in the correlation between cell phone use and the appearance of aggressive glioblastoma (brain cancer) for many years. Personally, I limit my use of a cell phone to emergency situations, and try not to use it at all.

    This thread is for anyone who is interested in this subject, to post relevant data or direct experiences.

    Here is an article from the BBC about the results of a new International Study on the subject. While the headline of the article tries to imply "no proof" was found, the article clearly points out that the situation is not that simple. I hope this can begin an intelligent discussion on the topic.

    BBC News - No proof of mobile cancer risk, major study concludes

    Peter
    Peter Lindemann, D.Sc.

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    Dr. Mercola's info on cell phones.

    Doctor Mercola has a lot of valid information about cell phones, the devices severely destroying health, much more than cigarettes.

    On his website you can find dozens of informative articles based mostly on scientific facts that are kept far from the so called main stream media:
    Natural Health Information Articles and Health Newsletter by Dr. Joseph Mercola
    When you use the search function on the web site, here is what comes:
    Search Center * - Search.mercola.com

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    • #3
      Hi Peter and ALL. There are some great independent studies shown in the dirty electricity thread, we are making a video production about his,i appreciate you guys helping write it as you have all of the pages on the Panacea site I will include this matter in the production thanks for posting guys.

      Ash

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      • #4
        My opinion:
        Handphone safety and health guide | Cellphone Spec & Info

        I now do not too worry about it. I just avoid it when sleeping and use any non food method for improving health.

        It is not something we can avoid. Like smoke, even if you are not smoking, you receive same or more danger by being around smoker you like being aournd to. People no longer aware of the danger of using phone inside faraday cage like car or building. People no longer care live besides base station which has radiation exceed safety level up too 100 m. People no longer care work inside a the building with repeater inside it. People no longer aware that cellphone jammer in a restaurant or movie theater emit much more radiation than cellphone to make them also emit it max radiation trying to uselessly search network signal.

        If our dearest family do not acknowledge the danger and choose to use it, we can only support it from other aspect of imrpoving his health.
        Last edited by sucahyo; 05-18-2010, 03:22 AM.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by sucahyo View Post
          My opinion:
          Handphone safety and health guide | Cellphone Spec & Info

          I now do not too worry about it. I just avoid it when sleeping and use any non food method for improving health.

          It is not something we can avoid. Like smoke, even if you are not smoking, you receive same or more danger by being around smoker you like being aournd to. People no longer aware of the danger of using phone inside faraday cage like car or building. People no longer care live besides base station which has radiation exceed safety level up too 100 m. People no longer care work inside a the building with repeater inside it. People no longer aware that cellphone jammer in a restaurant or movie theater emit much more radiation than cellphone to make them also emit it max radiation trying to uselessly search network signal.

          If our dearest family do not acknowledge the danger and choose to use it, we can only support it from other aspect of imrpoving his health.
          You state "people are not aware".
          Well i am sure that everyone ending up in hospital with brain cancer would
          have wanted to be "made aware" of the risks, because the industry certainly
          plays the "harmless card".
          Most people that i talk to tell me "Ah come on, if cell phones would be dangerous then they would not be allowed by the government." (LOL)
          So you can assume that the majority of the population has not the slightest idea of serious health risk associated with mobile technology other than occasional headaches.

          Konstantin Meyl has pointed out that the frequency range that the wireless
          systems operate in (~2.5 GHz) directly temper with the frequencies that organic cells derive their energy from.
          Supposed that this is not intentional for malevolent purposes it could be
          advisable to pressure the wireless industry to shift their operating frequencies into a different range for a start.

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          • #6
            Guys we are Helping Donna fisher (producing our own production) to help get this info out. Check Welcome to Silent Fields :: More Silent Fields

            Also i suggest you check out
            YouTube - cellphonesandhealth's Channel

            YouTube - Senate Hearing - Cell Phones and Interphone - Brain Cancer
            Senate Hearing - Cell Phones and Health - Tumors and Cancer.

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            • #7
              I guess people would start to listen if there are case of brain damage cause by cancer, so far there is no story about it. Not even story about rat using cellphone. Maybe bees story, but that not related to cellphone, it relate to base station. It drown in the swarm of other disease.

              And before anyone suggest shield to protect the brain. I hope anyone do not get fooled by cellphone "shield" or any "expert" that suggesting it.

              Originally posted by Xenomorph View Post
              Konstantin Meyl has pointed out that the frequency range that the wireless systems operate in (~2.5 GHz) directly temper with the frequencies that organic cells derive their energy from.
              Maybe the way the cellphone jumping frequency around reduce the chance of them hitting sell killing resonance. The standard are 800MHz, 1800MHz and 1900MHz.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by sucahyo View Post
                I guess people would start to listen if there are case of brain damage cause by cancer, so far there is no story about it. Not even story about rat using cellphone.
                Not quite correct:
                Brain cancer and cell phone. Rat Brain Study

                as well as in ashtweth´s links.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Xenomorph View Post
                  Not quite correct:
                  Brain cancer and cell phone. Rat Brain Study

                  as well as in ashtweth´s links.
                  That is lack of info other than "I heard that". "if confirmed" is worrying statement. The poster not even sure if the information is true.

                  Besides, right under the text there is a misleading advert:
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                  I don't trust info from anyone promoting cellphone shield.

                  Why? hint: how the cellphone will react if something block network signal.
                  Last edited by sucahyo; 05-19-2010, 04:22 AM.

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                  • #10
                    No offense, but what does this have to do with renewable energy?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by EthelAether View Post
                      No offense, but what does this have to do with renewable energy?
                      I think this relate to environment.

                      Renewable Energy Discussion on various alternative energy, renewable energy, & free energy technologies. Also any discussion about the environment, global warming, and other related topics are welcome here.
                      Last edited by sucahyo; 05-19-2010, 04:28 AM.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by sucahyo View Post
                        That is lack of info other than "I heard that". "if confirmed" is worrying statement. The poster not even sure if the information is true.

                        Besides, right under the text there is a misleading advert:

                        I don't trust info from anyone promoting cellphone shield.

                        Why? hint: how the cellphone will react if something block network signal.
                        Dood seriously, before saying the poster doesn't even know, Excuse me Sucahyo, i think i have looked into it a bit, my sister has a brain tumor cancer from what we think is cell phone use, plus there are more links YOU HAVE NOT RESEARCHED. Please consider asking me in future Thanks
                        Ashtweth

                        More links.

                        Global study into mobile cancer link | News.com.au
                        How much radiation does your mobile emit? | News.com.au

                        WSVN-TV - Professor killed in home invasion
                        Brain surgeon Dr Charlie Teo

                        By Cheryl Critchley
                        Herald Sun
                        October 28, 2009 02:00am

                        Dr Charlie Teo
                        Dr Charlie Teo, from Channel 7's Last Chance Surgery, says it's better to avoid electro-magnetic radiation / Supplied

                        * Surgeon warns of electromagnetic radiation
                        * Takes 'prevention better than cure' approach
                        * Global study: Mobile cancer link
                        * Mobiles: How much radiation is there?

                        BRAIN cancer surgeon Charlie Teo has urged people to put mobile phones on loudspeaker, move clock radios to the foot of the bed and wait until microwaves have finished beeping before opening them.
                        The controversial Sydney specialist told a Melbourne fundraiser that although the jury was still out on mobile phones and other forms of electromagnetic radiation, we should not take risks.

                        "Even though the jury's not in, just to err on the side of safety I would try and limit the amount of electromagnetic radiation that you're exposed to," he said.

                        "The American government, for example, recommend that all electrical appliances should be put at the foot of the bed and not the head of the bed.
                        "Electric blankets should be turned off before you get in bed and definitely wait for those five beeps before you open the microwave.
                        "With the mobile phone I encourage you to put it on loudspeaker and step outside rather than sticking it up to your brain."Dr Teo, who tackles tumours other surgeons deem inoperable, said some hair dyes, particularly red, could also cause brain cancer in people with a predisposition.

                        "The body needs some genetic predisposition. The hair dye, the mobile phone, they're just catalysts but you probably need some sort of genetic aberration to get the cancer in the first place," he said.
                        Fast cancers

                        Dr Teo, who stars in Channel Seven's Last Chance Surgery, was in Melbourne last week for the Blackwood8 fundraiser at Croydon golf club.
                        The group was founded by family and friends of Sally White, a patient of Dr Teo's whose outlook has improved dramatically.Dr Teo said while breast cancer doubled its cell numbers in weeks or months, the quickest brain cancers took just 16 hours.No age group was immune and the incidence of brain tumours was growing.

                        "It's increasing in frequency both in this country and developing countries and it used to be ranked out of the top 10 but it's just joined the top 10 most common cancers," he said.

                        Recent studies have raised alarm bells about mobile phones.
                        An unreleased World Health Organisation study reportedly found "a significantly increased risk" of some brain tumours related to use of mobile phones for 10 years or more.

                        A Suleyman Demirel University study in Turkey also found wearing a mobile phone on your belt may lead to decreased bone density in an area of the pelvis commonly used for bone grafts.

                        Dr Teo said there had been some advancements in treating tumours, like microwave therapy and putting chemotherapy directly into a tumour. A healthy diet, meditation and positive thought could also be beneficial.
                        "We believe that they probably boost the immune system," he said.
                        Dr Teo's tips to reduce brain tumour risks
                        - Get eight hours sleep a night and eat well to boost your immune system
                        - Keep electrical appliances like clock radios at the foot of the bed
                        - Turn electric blankets off before retiring
                        - Put mobile phones on hands-free
                        - Wait until the microwave finishes beeping before opening it
                        Last edited by ashtweth; 05-19-2010, 04:47 AM.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by ashtweth View Post
                          Dood seriously, before saying the poster doesn't even know, Excuse me Sucahyo, i think i have looked into it a bit, my sister has a brain tumor cancer from what we think is cell phone use, plus there are more links YOU HAVE NOT RESEARCHED. Please consider asking me in future Thanks
                          Ashtweth
                          Sorry, I do not means to offend anyone. It's just that I don't believe info posted on someone promoting phone shield. Giving impression that shield will prevent brain cancer inducing effect from a cellphone is evil.

                          I do not against the idea of cellphone radiation can cause something bad. But ignoring other feature in a cellphone or other facility that support cellphone system is wrong.


                          Not just the cellphone please! The repeater 10 meter near you in public building radiate more energy than a mere cellphone. There is story where cellphone / wifi instalator get burn / tan because of the radiation.

                          It would be useless to buy the whole "shield" pack to the family and still don't mind getting radiated at many level higher at movie theater, school, or restaurant by cellphone jammer.



                          What if headset actually enhance cancer inducing effect? What if shield actually enhance it too? What if using bluetooth actually worse than cellphone radiation?


                          Sorry about your sister, I hope you find the best way to heal her. What kind of activity your sister have? Do they detect cancer in his hand too? I think mentioning any info bellow may help people avoid it in the future:
                          - using bluetooth headset?
                          - usign wired headset?
                          - using wifi equipped notebook?
                          - using gps enabled cellphone?
                          - brand and model of the cellphone?
                          - average distance from nearest base station or average signal meter?
                          - CDMA or GSM?
                          - network frequency?
                          - is there wireless fixed phone at home?
                          - is there CFL near her head when she sleep?
                          - did she listen music from a cellphone when she sleep?
                          Last edited by sucahyo; 05-19-2010, 05:33 AM.

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                          • #14
                            Dealing with the electro side the dirty electricity filters posted in the dirty electricity thread are mandatory. Combined with a raw food/alkaline diet are essential. She does not use a cell phone any more, i have many more links, we are doing a production on it. No CFL's, only LEDS.

                            Soon as i get more time ill add more resources here guys.

                            Ash
                            Last edited by ashtweth; 05-19-2010, 06:29 AM.

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                            • #15
                              Ok.

                              It is possible that the effect similar to one wire electricity, wire from switched point have electric potential compare to ground or water mass (human), also applies. Cellphone should contain oscillator circuit. May not just EM, may also be scalar pollution.

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