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  • Magnetic motor. Video. Your opinion please

    Hi, I just saw this extremely simple motor.

    YouTube - Free Energy # 7 The Working All Magnet Motor (FM Concepts)

    I would like to know your opinion.

    thanks.

    ps: sorry if this has already come up.

  • #2
    It looks interesting although he doesn't quite let you see what's inside the bottom piece (if anything ) other than 2 magnets. It does not look like it would be able to spin very fast with the wheel being so out of balance. Other than that it is of interest in the way it works. I didn't hear any audio on it so one is left to speculate how it works. I liked the other one I saw recently which also appeared on youtube after I watched the one you posted. It looks very easy to replicate. This one: here
    There is no important work, there are only a series of moments to demonstrate your mastery and impeccability. Quote from Almine

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    • #3
      The magnet motor shown on YouTube

      Hi ewizard,

      I built a magnet motor like the one you linked up to on YouTube and mine didn't work. I saw another video demonstrating one that failed.

      I came to the conclusion that the video was a very good production of deception.

      Here is a video showing it failed:
      YouTube - Test of video with free energy by magnets

      I would say that TheRickoff may have something that could possibly work with his pipedream concept. To me it looks promising. I'm hoping that there is enough free power there to allow the slider stator to move back and forth as the wheel turns.

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      • #4
        Freefuel thanks for your video.

        I was thinking about replicating that magnet thing so now I know it doesn't work.

        I think there is some interest in posting fake videos to make people talking about these topics like gullible fools.

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        • #5
          How do you know it doesn't work? If your talking about the original video?

          Matt

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          • #6
            Magnets, the favourite toy of physisists and experimetalists!

            Despite their interesting nature, we have yet to see any work come out of them, depite the so many written and said.

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            • #7
              We still can't get you to spell right either. I guess we'll sit around all gloom and negative and await a blueprint to the miracle.

              LOL
              Matt

              the do nothing said @....depite the so many written and said

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              • #8
                FreeFuel, I see two distinct problems with the guy doing that video in which he says it does not work. One is that he's holding the disc basically flat rather than at an angle of about 45 degrees like the original. I think the angle may have something to do with the success. Also he is holding the magnet in his hand flat and just waving it at the disc. In the original video the person held it steady but at an angle rather than facing directly at the magnets on the disc. I think the angle of the magnet being held is probably the most critical part in getting this to spin.
                There is no important work, there are only a series of moments to demonstrate your mastery and impeccability. Quote from Almine

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                • #9
                  magnetic motor

                  Hi Ewizard

                  I would tend to agree with you if I didn't already try it out for myself. I covered each of the 12 magnets into heatshrink and then glued them to the top of a fan blade from an old Auto Cool fan which is connected to a toy motor. The AutoCool fan was another thing that did not work to cool a car. People got taken on that item as well. But that's another story. I added an attachment if it works. This is my first time trying to add an attachment.

                  I'll be honest with you. I tried placing the stator magnet at different angles and orienting the magnet in both the repulsion and attraction modes. It doesn't work. The rotor magnets just hold firm and there is no rotation when you bring the stator magnet near them. I believe that some other approach is needed to cause a wheel to rotate continuously.

                  As Mat pointed out in his response one of his attachments shows what seems to me to be a Bedini SSG circuit.

                  One thing is for certain. We should never give up on renewable energy.
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                  • #10
                    "Hand Waving" WORKS, no question of it, I've tried it myself. By moving the "stator" in and out a bit at a certain "resonance", rotation can be easily achieved. I suspect with the "Philly Cream Cheese lid motor", this is what got it going then the rest was "spin down".

                    That said, the energy to wave the hand must be considered. But it is a good point to start at on these all-magnet rotor devices i think, and the reminder that it IS possible to achieve...

                    ... if we can just find the right guy who wants to stand there all day waving his hand for peanuts (just kidding).

                    Now there is the Romanian inventor Nicolae Moraru from the cold-war days, who claimed "Iron opposing magnets", not "magnets opposing magnets", is the way to go as well. Haven't see too many peeps try that since that info came out last year; i think Mr. Roney had one he was working on for a while that used mostly steel in opposition but it petered out apparently.

                    Another thing that i have noticed, is, that many motors that are being tried are fairly close compared to the intersection of flux fields. This may not be the proper route: And adjusting the mags to be farther apart might have a better chance ultimately.

                    One more point is, i fervently hope that when a magnet motor is finally realized; it can be made using Ceramic Magnets (which we can even eventually learn to make ourselves). Even if these run down after a time, this is not a "tragedy" and even makes for a decent little side industry and job opportunities for local small businesses.

                    What would be a tragedy, is the monopoly that now exists with Rare Earth elements... Imagine that should we be SUCCESSFUL, then find out that China has cut off all shipments of Neo's. If we can build these things to be useful with lesser mags, it won't matter, and they won't even bother to cut shipments as that cuts their profits.

                    Just something to think about, to you magnet motor inventors out there

                    Global supply of rare earth elements could be wiped out by 2012

                    BTW i suspect that article is a little alarmist and over-stating the problem; the actual mines are not running out; the processing and manufacture is apparently not keeping up.
                    Last edited by jibbguy; 01-27-2010, 08:52 PM.

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                    • #11
                      Your not going to get anything out of that one that shows the magnets spinning the motor. Thats Fake.

                      The original video that bugler put up might me real. What I have noticed looking at it and the duplications are no one used metal. Thats clearly a steel that is treated to not rust.
                      So no one has correctly tried to duplicate it. They appeared to want to show there was no motor inside and used clear material.
                      The metal may well buffer the fields to the point that rotation is possible. The cogging caused from the end point could be overcome from this buffer. As well the last 4 - 5 magnets are progressivly rotated away from direct contact. This action will further smooth the cogging effect. In fact if the magnets general direction was opposite as to give a pulling effect this would add instead of subtract.

                      You must try it for yourself to know.

                      This style of rotory is not going to find a power solution though. If it can be made to work it will be mearly because of the correct spacing and weakened effect.

                      To find power in a magnetic assembly you must find the combination of magnets that fire. Magnets can and do flip poles and release more than average energy given the right chance. This magnetic assembly does just that.

                      YouTube - LatestAssembly.MPG

                      Once the initial magnet is pushed through, the assembly starts to fire. As it fires the the normal direction of the flux is reversed. This allows for the next magnet to be pulled in and fire through. The thing can chain gang it way through no matter how big the string of magnets is.
                      There are a few rules and timing tricks but for the most part it is pretty stable and reliable source of power.

                      This assembly can also be made round. But I found a smaller more compact version that will allow for a smaller wheel to be used. The assembly should work under a curved situation far better than the one shown.
                      We'll see

                      Don't hope, TRY! Even failure can teach you something.
                      Matt

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                      • #12
                        The only problem with that whole story is the fact that China has been a huge world lender and investing in just about every economy in the world. They cut off the rare earth, we don't pay them back. LOL
                        Debt is leverage in the global financial market.

                        Originally posted by jibbguy View Post
                        "Hand Waving" WORKS, no question of it, I've tried it myself. By moving the "stator" in and out a bit at a certain "resonance", rotation can be easily achieved. I suspect with the "Philly Cream Cheese lid motor", this is what got it going then the rest was "spin down".

                        That said, the energy to wave the hand must be considered. But it is a good point to start at on these all-magnet rotor devices i think, and the reminder that it IS possible to achieve...

                        ... if we can just find the right guy who wants to stand there all day waving his hand for peanuts (just kidding).

                        Now there is the Romanian inventor Nicolae Moraru from the cold-war days, who claimed "Iron opposing magnets", not "magnets opposing magnets", is the way to go as well. Haven't see too many peeps try that since that info came out last year; i think Mr. Roney had one he was working on for a while that used mostly steel in opposition but it petered out apparently.

                        Another thing that i have noticed, is, that many motors that are being tried are fairly close compared to the intersection of flux fields. This may not be the proper route: And adjusting the mags to be farther apart might have a better chance ultimately.

                        One more point is, i fervently hope that when a magnet motor is finally realized; it can be made using Ceramic Magnets (which we can even eventually learn to make ourselves). Even if these run down after a time, this is not a "tragedy" and even makes for a decent little side industry and job opportunities for local small businesses.

                        What would be a tragedy, is the monopoly that now exists with Rare Earth elements... Imagine that should we be SUCCESSFUL, then find out that China has cut off all shipments of Neo's. If we can build these things to be useful with lesser mags, it won't matter, and they won't even bother to cut shipments as that cuts their profits.

                        Just something to think about, to you magnet motor inventors out there

                        Global supply of rare earth elements could be wiped out by 2012

                        BTW i suspect that article is a little alarmist and over-stating the problem; the actual mines are not running out; the processing and manufacture is apparently not keeping up.

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                        • #13
                          Matthew i agree, that it is unlikely they would just shut us off as things stand. But we can't assume that things will always be as they are now... In an economic crash situation, we may default on the Trillions in Treasury Bonds they are holding (not be able to pay the Interest)... Who knows what happens then.

                          The monopoly on rare earth elements DOES in fact exist as far as i can tell, i've been investigating it off and on for about 2 years now (..because i recognized the strategic nature of neodymium, selenium, and cobalt once "magnet-based free energy" comes along, if ever lol). I can tell everybody this from what i have found so far:

                          > That the monopoly is not only "Chinese", it involves Japanese mining conglomerates in partnership, forming what appears to be a "cartel". This is kinda interesting in itself, because there is no love lost between these two cultures (the Chinese have never really forgiven Japan for WW2). But money does wonder for healing old wounds i guess lol.

                          > It appears that private investors cannot invest in "neodymium" in any commodities markets throughout the world. I've had friends who are very familiar with high level investment look into this for me; and they confirmed my own findings. This means it is all "Privately Held"... Including the Japanese mining conglomerates or the Chinese companies in league with them which apparently offer no Public Stock, either (also usually meaning "Private Ownership" of the corp, or in the case of China, possibly government ownership which is often not openly stated in public records.. as what they call the "government" is often really "government bureaucrats" as individuals ).
                          Last edited by jibbguy; 01-27-2010, 11:44 PM.

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                          • #14
                            magnets have always performed work

                            Originally posted by baroutologos View Post
                            Magnets, the favourite toy of physisists and experimetalists!

                            Despite their interesting nature, we have yet to see any work come out of them, depite the so many written and said.
                            Put a magnet on your refrigerator. That is work. It is magnetic current
                            at zero voltage. It takes WORK to have x mass resist the downward push
                            of gravity.

                            If you take a magnet and repel or attract another magnet, that is also
                            work and you can keep doing that over and over and you won't get any
                            measurable diminishment in the magnetic field strength. You have to
                            strongly abuse magnets usually in repulsion mode to weaken them or with
                            heat.

                            Also, Felix Ehrenhaft's magnetolysis.... the magnetic strength did reduce
                            when producing gas showing the magnet gave up something for that
                            particular kind of work.
                            Sincerely,
                            Aaron Murakami

                            Books & Videos https://emediapress.com
                            Conference http://energyscienceconference.com
                            RPX & MWO http://vril.io

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                            • #15
                              magnets do work

                              EDIT: Energizers the the SG are pumping the magnets
                              getting potential out of them and the potential is instantly replaced.

                              Put a magnet on your refrigerator. That is work. It is magnetic current
                              at zero voltage. It takes WORK to have x mass resist the downward push
                              of gravity.

                              If you take a magnet and repel or attract another magnet, that is also
                              work and you can keep doing that over and over and you won't get any
                              measurable diminishment in the magnetic field strength. You have to
                              strongly abuse magnets usually in repulsion mode to weaken them or with
                              heat. EDIT: Someone could say it is your arms doing the work but place
                              two magnets opposing or attracting and lock them in place, that is a
                              tension produced but the magnets don't diminish.

                              Also, Felix Ehrenhaft's magnetolysis.... the magnetic strength did reduce
                              when producing gas showing the magnet gave up something for that
                              particular kind of work.
                              Sincerely,
                              Aaron Murakami

                              Books & Videos https://emediapress.com
                              Conference http://energyscienceconference.com
                              RPX & MWO http://vril.io

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