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    High Speed Mechanical Switching Vs Transistors (aka purple flashing)

    I was of two minds about starting a new thread for this; but I don't want have it get buried in another thread.. Also, the difference in circuit operation with hard mechanical switching vs soft 'conditioned' transistors has, in and of itself, both intrigued and perplexed me for a long time now.

    So, I'll start by posting my previous videos that are relevant to the topic, and finish with a presentation of my latest little pet.. Of course, it could be scaled up, but I really need a drill-press before I tackle the precision that would be required

    First I came across it was with the joule thief;

    1 YouTube - Inquorate 24 - slayer's big joule thief

    Which I found quite fascinating and odd;

    2 YouTube - brighter purple flashes

    And set out investigating...

    3 YouTube - Inquorate 25

    Here is a close-up vid of the differences in types of switch lighting the neon;

    4 YouTube - Inquorate 26

    So, more playing followed;

    5 YouTube - purple flasher experiments #1
    6 YouTube - purple flasher experiments #2
    7 YouTube - purple flasher funny readings

    And then had pretty much figured out how to reliably trigger the purple flash, AND how to show just how bright it was on camera;

    8 YouTube - purple neon circuit without transistor

    Which is when I got the idea to make the high frequency switch - don't try this particular idea at home kiddo's; it's a waste of time. Maybe. Was for me.

    9 YouTube - regarding high speed mechanical switching

    Then I digressed, trying to effectively push a pendulum on a veljko oscillator with an electromagnet, by using a delayed on-time circuit which involved relays switching so slowly as not to cause sparking, ie v close to pure square wave..

    10 YouTube - pendulum push coil tuned up

    And came across a crazy continuous version of the same effect;

    11 YouTube - crazy purple flash staccato
    12 YouTube - Bouncing purple flash phenomena

    Which brings me to the latest installment of the purple flashing orange neon phenomena (more radiant??), with more investigations to follow - who knows, maybe this line of research will lead somewhere. If not, I'll happily take one for the team

    12b YouTube - Mechanical Switch - Mark I - 2.4khz

    Love and light
    Atoms move for free. It's all about resonance and phase. Make the circuit open and build a generator.
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  • #2
    Inq ...


    Damn, i wish you were in the UK, Focus-DIY store have a 5 speed drill press on sale for only £22 right now

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    • #3
      INQ,
      working my way through your videos, i LOVE the 20,000 rpm motor-switch thingy...veryyyyyyyy Tesla-esque :-)

      interesting in video 5, the best from the neon came when you got zero or almost zero from the (conventional) bulb.

      lolol, video 7 ( strange readings ) lol, i love at the end where youre perplexed and touch the motor which isnt connected to ANYTHING !!!! ...just to seeeeee what happens ( been there...done that )

      regarding the mechanical motor-switching.....you could easily use a pwm to control the speed of the motor rather that resistors to knock down the voltage.

      hmmm....got me thinking........always thinkinggggggggg


      Adios & Ahimsa for now,

      David. D

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      • #4
        Inquorate @ I haven't watched many of your video's but if you were to some up an answer what would it be?

        Matt

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        • #5
          Lol, sum up;

          Transistors, like capacitors and batteries in bedini type radiant circuit (higher radiant energy quota in the circuit than in a conventional circuit) become 'conditioned', ie more receptive to radiant energy (aetheric streams) to the point of self charging, filling with fluffy voltage (little electron content, excess voltage potential) - or, in the case of transistors, becoming 'soft' (not switching off completely as the electron sized holes in the semi-conductor (switch) part becomes saturated with fluffy voltage..

          Thus, transistors stop making the square wave unidirectional pulses that are necessary to create radiant streams, partly by leaving the electrons behind momentarily (what is known as the 'electron bunching effect') due to their inertia.

          That's my guess.

          I'm trying to edit a bunch of postings on this forum regarding discussions about the switching, the aether etc that I have been contributing to, and that unfortunately spans many threads.

          I hope to have it readable soon.

          Love and light
          Atoms move for free. It's all about resonance and phase. Make the circuit open and build a generator.

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          • #6
            when charging a cap from the ground negative and ignition coil, them discharging to a smaller cap i can get the purple flasher everytime(if i setup the scr incorrectly LOL) Ben will video and post it here

            also old stuff
            YouTube - Electret Purple Flash Two Alikes Ben Style!!
            YouTube - Purple flash high speed spark
            if you wish i can put up a diagram?
            Last edited by Bodkins; 06-27-2009, 09:46 PM.

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            • #7
              Why do you keep asking that dearest?

              Of course I'd love to see a schematic.. You know how much I love it when you do that.. - also, I'm curious which wrong way of wiring up an scr makes the flash..

              And thanks again richard for keeping note of the purple flashy thing

              If I remember correctly, your old videos obtained the purple flashes thru quenched spark gaps?

              Love and light
              Atoms move for free. It's all about resonance and phase. Make the circuit open and build a generator.

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              • #8
                The only time I've ever gotten purple flashes from a neon is from my pendulum and the SCR/neon triggered dump to a secondary (two neons in the circuit, basically) battery. And I wasn't able to do it consistently. It certainly is an interesting effect; I wonder what conventional EE says a purple ionization from neon gas is?

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                • #9
                  Conventional science

                  If they are saying anything, they're not publishing it. I haven't been able to find anything on the net except at this forum and some comments on one of my youtube videos. That guy said once a neon stops flashing purple, you can change the polarity of the legs and it starts up again. If you keep on swapping it over, apparently the clear bulb becomes silvered like the inside coating on a vacuum tube..

                  Which means that the electrodes are probably losing their coating, mainly to the other electrode, but after a while to the inside of the glass.

                  But that still leaves 'why?' and 'why only in specific circumstances?'

                  And since the purple flash is symptomatic of a cause, what else does the cause cause?

                  ps, working on mark II; reed switch keeps sticking esp with low resistance circuits, and it needs a diode from the switch to stop HV from ignition coil causing sticking too.

                  I'll keep nutting it out till I get something reliable.

                  Love and light
                  Atoms move for free. It's all about resonance and phase. Make the circuit open and build a generator.

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                  • #10
                    http://www.energeticforum.com/attach...ens-purple.jpg

                    its here Ben Crazy Purple.

                    in the video i made the spark sound was like implosion,
                    One thing thats weird is that my flyback, not giving me a big spark anymore i was trying to do a candle video for randy(vortex) but the spark is really small it runs form the wall 12v 1.5amp. I dont understand it my gut is saying that if i play around for abit with the ground and stuff the spark will get bigger.

                    I REALLY DO THINK THIS SETUP IS A NEGATIVE RESISTOR
                    if anyone has a way i can pulse the flyback from a battery please put up a link, I NEED a 555 variable freq. variable duty pulser from flybacks and ignition coils, I dont have the time/skill to make one IM crap with them.
                    I WILL PAY IF SOMEONE CAN MAKE ME ONE.
                    My instinct are going crazy about the earth battery and this setup, I just need some help with the 555.
                    love and light
                    B
                    Last edited by Bodkins; 06-28-2009, 11:51 AM.

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                    • #11
                      errrr guys

                      guys...ummm...

                      i might be getting a similar effect here with my pwm->ignition coil->sparkgap->bifilar coil -> neon.

                      see my thread "Tesla attempt" down near the bottom..... it worked like this...

                      from the HV output of the ignition coil goes to the spark gap...then on to 2 HV diodes ( avramenko style )... then...

                      the end of one diode is connected to the start of coil A.....the other diode is connected to the start of coil B ( coils A & B being the bifilar )....the other ends of both coils are NOT connected.

                      circuit on for a few seconds.... then off.....both batt's dissconected....

                      bring a neon held by one of its legs in pliers....and touching the other leg to the end of one of the coils ( actually its the coil that is connected to the diode that is pointing backwards towards the HV )....touch the leg.and the neon glows...not much....but continually glows....orange....for a good 20-30 seconds....then....i accidentally touch the other leg to the end of the other coil ( while maintaining contact with the first leg ).....and the neon really FLASHED .....TWICE......then...when i broke contact with the 2nd leg.....but still had contact with the first leg....it continiued to glow orange again....its like something is going "around the coil" even after power down.....or something.


                      *perplexed*


                      David. D

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                      • #12
                        this may be waht we are looking at YouTube - Electric flow HV like a big slice of negative kickback?
                        or a magnetic currect?
                        Last edited by Bodkins; 06-28-2009, 10:31 AM.

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                        • #13
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                          @ bodkins - the circuit you're after is on rave's tesla attempt thread

                          @ rave - that's really weird and possibly quite important. Have you a youtube account to post videos? Even if from a mobile phone...

                          Don't have too much time to replicate, but reeeealy interested in finding out what's going on on your benchtop :O
                          Atoms move for free. It's all about resonance and phase. Make the circuit open and build a generator.

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                          • #14
                            inq, ( Bod ),

                            I will video it when i get chance ( got a nice high def digi cam ).....but i just tried something ( yikes )..and its getting all weird again....lol....

                            from the one terminal of my spark gap...to the other terminal of the spark gap.,i placed a ring of magnets ( neo cylinders, 10mm dia, 5mm thick ) to form a short circuit so to speak as far as the spark gap was concerened )....ran the circuit....no sparking obviously.......but when i turned the pwm off..the CFL stayed on !!!!.....somehow...putting the magnets there made the HV side of my circuit ( the one half of the OPTO and the 2n3055) self oscillate?..ill attach a diagram to explain..
                            Last edited by rave154; 03-29-2010, 04:37 PM.

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                            • #15
                              rave154@about the 3055, we have had them switch after powered down too, once you get the aether moving, it likes it, to move. earth batterys are the same once you work them,
                              Last edited by Bodkins; 06-28-2009, 11:53 AM.

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