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Old 08-11-2011, 11:44 PM
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I did try this with the glue cell and the current did rise. The effect was not as dramatic as the Alum cell. The meter topped out at 6.3ma and is now dropping. Current reading is back to 5.9ma after about 20 minutes.
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A videos of the glue cells powering a LED and LCD clock. These glues cells can be shorted out and given a load and left to sit and will recharge themselves back to the original voltage. When these glue cells are made they reject water and push it out of the cell and dry hard and show crystals. These cells don't seem to be galvanic but instead something different. No corrosion shows up even on cells that been shorted out for months and the glue cell continues to recharge itself even after long periods of shorting out. The one cell that powers the LCD clock will fluxuate during the day in and out of brightness as if its looses its power than gets it back and then looses it again, as if it is cycling its power. This same effect is also seen in resistors too, where the cell seems to cycle between being charged and not charged.

Here is the two latest videos on the glue cells using copper and magnesium powering things.

The Much Stronger Glue cell - YouTube

Glue Cell Powering White LED - YouTube
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Old 08-12-2011, 03:02 AM
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That Glue cell is working better and better. Copper and magnesium work the best of all. Have you tried carbon magnesium in the cell?
Please do not think I'm paying attention because I am. That is really good work getting this developed. See if you can get the electrodes close and bigger, what amount of current have you seen.
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Old 08-12-2011, 03:20 AM
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@ibpointless2;
Your glue cells are outperforming mine. I noticed in your latest video that our Elmer's Glue is different. Mine is Elmer's School Glue - nontoxic - safe for children. Apparently children can eat my glue and only suffer mild constipation.
I have wood glue that is polyvinyl acetate that I will try and see if I can match your cells. Otherwise, off to the store to find the same glue you are using. Congrats - your video's really do show the power packed in this ultra simple cell. I still believe the mystery is hidden in this build.
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Old 08-12-2011, 04:39 AM
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John, what would happen if your borax copper method was used, then the basic Hutchison mix was added. In other words could the semiconductor copper be used to improve a dry or solid cell. Or does it have to have the water, like you use in your alum cell?

Also, I'll save you the trouble of waiting for Hutchison to post the video instructions on his high power cells. He probably never will. Luckily, here they are as I received them. I don't know any more than this, but this should give enough info for a replication.

** *1. * *Make Rochelle Salt. Recipe consists of Cream of Tartar and Baking Soda. Dope the rochelle salt with: Epsom Salt, silver shavings, (A silver coin was scraped.), Galena, Iron Pyrite. Melt this concoction on low heat
** *2. * *From Silver Wire or Copper wire, make two left-turn coils. The coils will eventually be connected in series, *with the leads pointing up. Dip each coil into the mixture created in step 1 above. Insert one coil inside of the other. Bend now nested coils into a toroid shape, (Donut shape). Coat with the mixture above.
** *3. * *Place a spherical 1 inch diameter Neodymium magnet in the center of the toroid. Make a string “necklace” of Neodymium magnets to and fill the gaps in the center of the toroid.*
** *4. * *Place manganese Dioxide into an aluminum measuring cup with the leads of the coils sticking up.*
** *5. * *Place into the measuring cup the toroid assembly with magnets in the center. Fill the cup to the top with the concoction from step one above.
** *6. * *Apply 6 Volts DC to the measuring cup/goo filled cup toroid assembly. One lead, (negative) attaches to the cup, and the other (positive), connects to the other two leads from the coils.
** *7. * *Place the cup on low heat -- Nancy used an electric heating plate with a one quarter inch thick (It could have been three-eighths thick, I don’t know) aluminum plate placed on the heating elements, and then the crystal battery concoction, (measuring cup with toroid wires, and rare earth magnets, etc) was placed onto the aluminum plate...the heat was set to low...the voltage was set to 6 volts dc, when the concoction was hot.

The aluminum plate melted with strange patterns, but, the aluminum measuring cup did not. Temperatures were nowhere close to those needed to melt aluminum.

A note about the coil. It says it is connected in series. I could be wrong, but I think he means like a joule thief bi-filar is wired. The end of one coil connected to the beginning of the other coil.

Anyway, Please everyone post any results you get. Thanks.
@Voire,
The recipe you post seems to be interesting. Why did Hutchison send you this recipe? Have you tried it yourself?
How many Volts and how many amps can this cell give out?
I have been making the Bedini alum cells, but the copper keeps becoming greenish and the current drops dramatically. They cannot give out more than a few microamps. I use Carbon, Aluminium foil and copper as electrodes in my cells.
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@ Aaron5120 and Voire

To let you both know I'm not waiting for anything. I think I will pass on this one as I see this as trouble.

@Aaron The metals you are using I have never used like aluminum foil the only way it could turn green is salt or acid. so what you have written makes no sense at all.
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Your glue cells are outperforming mine. I noticed in your latest video that our Elmer's Glue is different. Mine is Elmer's School Glue - nontoxic - safe for children. Apparently children can eat my glue and only suffer mild constipation.
I have wood glue that is polyvinyl acetate that I will try and see if I can match your cells. Otherwise, off to the store to find the same glue you are using. Congrats - your video's really do show the power packed in this ultra simple cell. I still believe the mystery is hidden in this build.
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I fell off my chair laughing so hard, that was funny.


If it helps I get my Elmer's glue at Lowe's, its the "new stronger formula" stuff.

I made a graphite and magnesium cell and its producing 1.70 volts, but it doesn't hold their and it drops quick. The cell does charge back up to 1.70 volts over time but hook a meter to it and it drops to 1.6 very quick. How I made it was very simple, just took a pencil and colored me a electrode on one side of the paper and put the mix on top and stuck my magnesium in it. It seems the stronger the potential the weaker the holding power becomes, this could be a bad thing or a good thing or even me making a mistake somewhere.
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That Glue cell is working better and better. Copper and magnesium work the best of all. Have you tried carbon magnesium in the cell?
Please do not think I'm paying attention because I am. That is really good work getting this developed. See if you can get the electrodes close and bigger, what amount of current have you seen.
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I myself have not tried carbon magnesium but the user b_rads has and here is his findings.

"Yes, I said that the carbon magnesium encased in plastic is my worst performing cell. I like to look at electronegivity charts when looking at electrodes and electrolytes.
Values: C – 2.55, Cu – 1.9, Zn – 1.65, Al – 1.61, Mg – 1.31
With these values the cell should rank in their potential like this:
C – Mg = 1.24
Cu – Mg = 0.59
Cu – Al = 0.29
Cu – Zn = 0.25
This is the order you would expect in truly galvanic cells. What I see in the glue crystal cells is this ranking: 1st Cu – Mg, 2nd Cu – Zn, 3rd C – Mg, and last is Cu - Al. This ranking would seem to indicate something other than galvanic is going on. I look forward to your interpretation of this information."


So it looks like carbon and magnesium is one of the worst to use and copper and magnesium is one of the best. But I have made Graphite and Magnesium cell which is producing 1.70 Volts and that seems to be the limit I can get these cells at right now. I consider 1.70 a big increase as I started off with glue cells that barely made 300mV once dried.

As for Amps, they're small but big enough to power a LCD clock and LED. I would give you a exact amp reading but the amps change though out the day when given a load, they go up and down as if in a cycle. These cells wont power you house but for me its making them perfect on this small scale before going big.
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If anyone can replicate an experiment I just tried, I would be very interested to hear your results. The two encased cells using semiconductor copper, magnesium, and Alum were just placed in an ultrasonic jewelry cleaner operating at 42khz. The cells were connected parallel and initial meter reading showed 2.6ma. After 2 minutes in the cleaner (no water in the cleaner) the meter showed 5.2ma. No change in voltage. This to me is very exciting. This is double the current and the meter was still rising when I turned the cleaner off. It has only been a few minutes but the cells are holding the current. I will continue to monitor.
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After about 3 hours, these cells dropped back to the original 2.6ma. After letting them sit at that level for an hour, I performed the test again. This time, after 2 minutes the current gained to 3.2ma and was at 3.6ma a few minutes later when I shut it down for the evening. This morning the current has dropped to 1.8ma. The ultrasonic seems to have a destructive force at 42khz on these cells. Not certain how to interpret this information or if the result was piezo or something else.
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I've found the reason that the cement cells as well as other cells lose their output over time. It is not the lack of water, or the green oxide that forms. The reason is that the copper wire or tube inside of the cement will turn black and that black oxide layer will totally inhibit the flow of current, by 100%. It is not the green scum that forms, it is the black oxide. So, does anyone have any suggestions as to what can be done about that?
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1 week update on crystal cell.

The current and voltage seem to be holding strong so far.
The window motor we have on them draws current steadily at 7-10mA
The cells seem to be drying out; I’m going to run them dry before adding more water. There is an observable change in energy output w/ change in temperature.

I do not know yet if it is the difference between the magnesium and copper or overall temp increase. I have to find a way to heat them up slowly at set temperature maybe I’ll put them in a fish tank w/ a lamp…

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To all,
Again I will say if you are looking for big currents with the Crystal Cells your making a big mistake. I have run the graphs on the mixture he gave I do not see anything special. I wont argue with anybody about what it is. I do not see the Casimir effect working with this at all, I do not see it scaving any energy, The Rochelle salts has been known for a long time as being piezoelectric in nature. What I see is an Electret with some power in Milliamp 7 to 150 max.

The Epsom salts generates electron flow between metal plates. I think that I will do a few more experiments with this reverse detector and see what I get. The Casimir effect takes place between anything, but the effect is to small. I have not tried silver electrodes yet but I will, I will even grow the crystals. I suggest you all read T T Brown, Then read all about Marcus Reid. That is a real mixture as I posted before, I have done that test and it works like he said. As for collecting Zero Point Energy have it proven to you. Barium Ferrite, yes does generate energy and does give small amounts that can and does power things, quarts plated glass does the same thing.

When talking to Tom Bearden about all of this He said he never said anything about a plating process to anybody and I believe him. If your going to play with low power Crystals then expect to make low power circuits. It's not going to run your house, it might give a desk lamp and that is it.

If you do not know what the real electrodes are you cant duplicate anything. The other thing here, if this was the answer to the energy crisis you would have had it by now as many people have been working on all of this. The battery industry would have this first and they would build it to fail so you would have to buy another one and would not know the difference. I'm sure the black government projects have this and even better, you will never see it from them.

Someone telling you to twist coils and put it in the mix must prove that, I don't see any proof. If you buy a small solar motor and run it with this mix it does work for some time. As I said the impedance of these cells is very high 1 meg ohm so how much power can you get through that?
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John Bedini,

Have you made a glue cell? I would Like to hear your input on it.

I have made a glue cell with just Epsom salts but it never was as powerful as the salt subititute and Epsom salt cells. I do agree these types of cells are not that powerful and act like Electrets but the project is fun. I went from 300mV to 1.70Volts now and I consider that a big improvement. There is something about Elmer's glue, salt subititute and Epsom Salts that is very interesting. Its the effect that i'm studying now, me not powering anything has made many people upset but all i care about is the effects and how to advance them. I only post videos of me powering things like LED's just to keep people happy and show them these cells can do things.

I have seen the test done on the Marcus Reid cells, they're very much like ours but not quite the same. His cells only gave a few milliamps too and show the little green tarnish like ours. Marcus Reid was the one to really get me interested in making these types of cells and even though my cells are not his I do take great pride in my creation.
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John H. cell shows water

In this video John Bedini shows that this cell ended up with more water then it started with. The other cell had the copper heated the next day and dryed. but this cell seemed to pull moisture from the air. This may be the water glass or the salts or both...


Results of hutchison cell with water glass 081111.wmv - YouTube
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In this video I show the testing of the Crystal Battery that John H released.
The Cell was made a little different first the outer shell or case is magnesium inner electrode is oxygen free copper tube. The doping mix was Rochelle salts, Epsom Salt, Selenium. The applied voltage to set the cell was 12 volts for 3 seconds. This cell has been running for 1 and 1/2 days on a computer graph. The load being a SG oscillator circuit, The oscillator can be tuned for current. The cell started at 2 and 1/4 Ma. After one day the cell has stabilized to .765 volts at less then 1Ma. This seems to be the working range of this cell. I will be posting more on this cell as the load continues. We have made one more Cell using in the doping mix Selenium and Alum and changed the electrode to the star pattern suggested by Marcus Reid in one of his posted e-mails. More to come.
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One other thing I might add The Alum Mixture and the doping makes a very big difference.
The Next thing is the temperature the crystals are cooked at makes a very big difference.
The oven must be very well controlled and it just takes a matter of seconds to spoil the mix.
I'm working out the exact doping right now, but the testing of the new cell in the video is holding a flat line in power. More later.
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This is a test of the new star cell this one is made a little different The housing is Anode Magnesium The Star Electrode is sheet copper.
The mix is Rochelle Salts 3 table spoons Epsom Salts 1 and 1/2 table spoon. Doping is Selenium Alum ground from grown crystal. This cell is under power test.
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temperature

This morning I placed the copper mag alum cells in a fish tank along with the WM so I could control the temperature. I placed a 100watt incandescent lamp above and sealed the tank w/ plastic to keep the heat in.

When I first turned the light on the temp went from 65 to 71 w/in minutes so the magnesium was not warm but the copper was beginning to warm.
the voltage climbed from 1.57 to 2.05 w/in those same minutes.

At the end of the day, the tank settled to 86 degrees F. and the voltage settled down to 1.86

Is this telling me that the energy from my setup might be sensitive to the difference in temp between the magnesium and the copper? any other suggestions for experimenting w/ this are more than welcome.

The crystals have doubled in size since the beginning of the week. I have not watered all week. I'll water when/if the motor ever stops.

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Have you made a glue cell? I would Like to hear your input on it.

I have made a glue cell with just Epsom salts but it never was as powerful as the salt subititute and Epsom salt cells. I do agree these types of cells are not that powerful and act like Electrets but the project is fun. I went from 300mV to 1.70Volts now and I consider that a big improvement. There is something about Elmer's glue, salt subititute and Epsom Salts that is very interesting. Its the effect that i'm studying now, me not powering anything has made many people upset but all i care about is the effects and how to advance them. I only post videos of me powering things like LED's just to keep people happy and show them these cells can do things.

I have seen the test done on the Marcus Reid cells, they're very much like ours but not quite the same. His cells only gave a few milliamps too and show the little green tarnish like ours. Marcus Reid was the one to really get me interested in making these types of cells and even though my cells are not his I do take great pride in my creation.
Ibpointless2,
I have not made the cell yet because I want to figure out what John H let out to the public. I'm just doing the experiments to find everything out about it. I have my own ideas as to what he did and why he did it at this time. But as I said I have built Ionic crystals so they almost work the same way. Your work is youneak in what you have done with a small drop of glue. I have not built these yet, but I'm going to. I just want to finish this cell first since I view it as a reverse detector and it works just like that. I have one more test to do which has to do with infrared with this cell.
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After about 3 hours, these cells dropped back to the original 2.6ma. After letting them sit at that level for an hour, I performed the test again. This time, after 2 minutes the current gained to 3.2ma and was at 3.6ma a few minutes later when I shut it down for the evening. This morning the current has dropped to 1.8ma. The ultrasonic seems to have a destructive force at 42khz on these cells. Not certain how to interpret this information or if the result was piezo or something else.
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Use Alum in the mix.
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This cell was alum only, copper, and magnesium. Hitting these crystal cell with different wave lenghts is an interesting thought. Hope your new cell gets excited when introduced to the IR. Thank You for responding.
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The data logger is helping. The voltage over time is giving us a picture
that will help develop a remedy to the voltage drooping curve. If we illuminate the initial droop and concentrate on the linear portion over time then a circuit that keeps the threshold up efficiently will give a constant voltage.

Careful recording the weights of each ingredient by using a gram scale is going to help in adjusting the mix.

We are seeing that some hydrophobic or hydrophilic activity is causing
some charecteristics in material not to our advantage.

When the pH of PVA polyvinyl acetate (elmers glue ) goes below 5.5 pH
the monomer bunches together forming a ball and it tends not to lay flat
however is remarkably useful and does'nt do this with alkaline. Flat is important.

Stephan Hartman's graphite batteries has encouraged me to try
glue and graphite powder (such as locksmith uses, in a small tube)
this black glue has been very useful ! I am also using wire glue.
I have a string of little cells running over a month just won't quit.

Regarding the size is we need more surface area and thinner layers.
I don't mean the test prototypes for experimenting with different materials.
I'm talking about making long lasting current using what knowledge we collectively have.

If we use a flat piece of cardboard 10 inches square and put small holes then apply a thin coating to both sides with the conductive black glue connecting both sides of the plastic or cardboard. This platform is more likely to show promise. I say this because research has shown powdered materials, powdered crystals on alternating layers are big improvement.
Another example that I found valuable was saturating a paper towel with crystal mix solution, dryed flat, slap it down on a thin coat of the conductive black glue made an excellent layer. This idea is cost effective higher power density possibly easier to get started in this field.

In the meantime studying the Reed, Hutchison, T Brown is giving some direction to solid state battery fundamentals that have not been public. The spin offs of the research has already started John B's homemade ultra capacitors. Those ought to be useful for something.

The gram scale, the data loggers, and powdered materials with determination will cause an exponential growth in alt- energy of small battery cells. I am really proud of being involved in this progressive thread. All the ideas are good each one has different working parameters.
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In this video I show the new developed Star Cell. this has been running under load for two days now locked up in the shop. I did figure out what the cell is using for energy and that is the ambient infrared energy that surrounds us all. The reason I say this is because of the doping, it acts more like a solar cell without light waves. This cell was very different to build as the doping for the cell was a mixture of Selenium and Alum heated and then crystallized and added to the final mixture, not easy to work with. The mixture I already gave in posts. This cell now is just climbing and so is the current. This is what a free energy battery should look like. The mixture that John H gave will get you to the basics so I give him credit for posting that. It takes allot of thinking to get past it and developed a cell like this. I was happy to share this all with the group.
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The star cell is looking really good John. Now I have to find selenium.

On another note I just started making some rochelle crystals, was a lot easier than I though, just takes 2 ingredients, and cooking them up.
This video shows how to make it for anyone who can't get the rochelle salt.
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This crystal developed in only a couple hours, made it today in the morning.
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I've been doing quite a lot of research on how I can make the Glue cells much more powerful, not with more voltage but with more power. I've been learning a lot about batteries and studying others experiments and even trying everything I could get my hands on. I'm still doing my testing so things are not final but I think I may have found a way to make the Glue cells much more powerful. So far this new cell with the new ingredient has out performed the old cells by a lot while still keeping its Glue cell properties.

Many of you are going to laugh at me when i tell you what this new ingredient is. Just like the old cells this cell contains Elmer's glue, Epsom salts, and salt substitute but now also contains Shampoo. Yes you read correctly, shampoo is the new ingredient that makes these glue cells stronger. I'm not joking around I did a lot of research and I found that some of the things in some shampoos will work great with the glue cell. I'm still in the early testing of this new cell so don't hold your breath I thought I would let you guys know what I'm working on. The shampoo I'm using is Suave ocean breeze, but look for the ingredient ammonium chloride. when I say the shampoo makes the cell more powerful I'm talking about its holding its charge for much longer than normal; able to power a bigger load for longer.

I'll continue study on this new cell and report back. Who knows what this new cell can do.
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John Bedini,

Sorry if this question has been asked before but how do I go about making that LED oscillator circuit that you show in your videos?
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Bedini Earth Light/ Crystal cell

ibpointless2,
It is on the Energenx you tube channel, or it is just an SG oscillator circuit without the diode. you wind 35 ft of # 40 wire b-filer into a coil form
one 2n2222 transistor and a 1.6 k base resistor. the led is between the collector and emitter.
The diode is not used in this circuit, same as the SG motor except the oscillator is forced by bringing the triggered coil wire that normally goes to ground of the circuit to the positive source instead.
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Old 08-15-2011, 12:16 AM
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This cell was very different to build as the doping for the cell was a mixture of Selenium and Alum heated and then crystallized and added to the final mixture, not easy to work with. The mixture I already gave in posts.
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JB, Thanks for sharing your research. A couple of questions. Could you pls give directions to make the selenium and alum crystall... u said it is not easy to work with.

also what differences did you notice compared to the doping JH used.

Thanks.
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Old 08-15-2011, 03:48 AM
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Hi John B,

That's a neat little circuit, putting the LED where the NE-2 normally goes.

Are you using base-collector and base-emitter resistors, like in the solid state SG circuit?

I will try this circuit with those solar cells.


John K.

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ibpointless2,
It is on the Energenx you tube channel, or it is just an SG oscillator circuit without the diode. you wind 35 ft of # 40 wire b-filer into a coil form
one 2n2222 transistor and a 1.6 k base resistor. the led is between the collector and emitter.
The diode is not used in this circuit, same as the SG motor except the oscillator is forced by bringing the triggered coil wire that normally goes to ground of the circuit to the positive source instead.
John B
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Old 08-15-2011, 01:56 PM
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John Bedini,

Great work so far on the latest crystal cell. I've been reading up on "Selenium" and its a very interesting material. You mention that it collects infrared light which makes sense as it is a semiconductor material that works better in light than in dark and is sometimes used in Photocells. Now if a material such as Selenium is able to pick up the electromagnetic waves of Infrared light I bet there is other material out there that is able to pick up high frequencies of electromagnetic radiation such as comic radiation that Moray was able to pick up. The question is that must be thought about is how can we go about finding material that can pick up that range of energy?
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Old 08-15-2011, 01:58 PM
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@IB and ALL:
Played around with the glue cells again yesterday afternoon and early results look pretty good. Found a couple of things you probably should not try. Using copper sheet, I decided to make a trough for the cell. It is about the size of a “AA” battery. One end is open with just a piece of painters tape sealing the end. This is the end I put the magnesium in. Glue was installed in 4 layers with the Crystals poured on top of each layer. I used ½ tsp Epsom Salt and ¼ tsp Salt Substitute in all cells per pair of cells.. Some of the cells I added additional crystals at ¼ tsp.
The 2 cells on the left bottom are the control cells. 1.34 Volts and 13ma after 6 hours. The 2 cells on the left top had alum added and they are 1.38 Volts and 18ma after 6 hours. The 2 cell center bottom used Gorilla Glue and they put out 0.0 V and 0.0 current. The 2 cells center top had bath salts added and they are at 1.38 Volts and 18ma after 6 hours. The 2 cells on the right were prepared by painting wire glue on the copper and applying silver leaf to the copper. They are reading 0.84 Volts and 8ma after 6 hours. With the exception of the gorilla glue cells, I used wood glue in all the other cells.
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Looking forward to progress reports on your new star cell. Sure does look like a winner.
I agree that it would be nice to identify other materials with the same affect, especially something more readily available.
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