Energetic Forum  
Facebook Twitter Google+ Pinterest LinkedIn Delicious Digg Reddit WordPress StumbleUpon Tumblr Translate Addthis Aaron Murakami YouTube 2020 ENERGY CONFERENCE - PRE-REGISTER NOW!!!!

2020 Energy Science & Technology Conference
PRE-REGISTER NOW!!!
http://energyscienceconference.com


Go Back   Energetic Forum > > >
   

John Bedini Discussion threads relating to John Bedini. Bedini SG, Bedini SSG, Crystal Batteries, etc...

* NEW * BEDINI RPX BOOK & DVD SET: BEDINI RPX

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #841  
Old 07-31-2011, 11:59 PM
minoly's Avatar
minoly minoly is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 514
Renaissance Convention

I hear JB had some "sweet" crystal cells at the convention. looking forward to hearing more about them from anyone who is in the know...

Patrick
__________________
 
Reply With Quote

Download SOLAR SECRETS by Peter Lindemann
Free - Get it now: Solar Secrets

  #842  
Old 08-01-2011, 07:58 PM
b_rads b_rads is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Alabama, South East U.S.
Posts: 207
@IB:
I would like to have shown you the glue cell with copper and magnesium lighting an LED with Lidmotorís Pancake Joule Thief but, the current has dropped to almost nothing and the circuit would not start. I could jump the cell with a AA Battery and the glue cell would barely light the LED for a few seconds before going out (the cell acts like a capacitor). I think too much of the charge was dumping into the first circuit capacitor before getting through the circuit. Interesting though is the cell, just like yours is still showing voltage. I measure slightly over 1 volt with no current and no visible degradation to the metals. This is quite unusual since the magnesium ribbon usually deteriorates fairly quickly. I enjoyed your last video and look forward to how you might apply this technology.
@NickZ:
I understand your frustration with these cells. Nothing is ever as easy as it appears or that you might think it should be. This has been a tremendous learning opportunity for me, and I have much to learn yet. I will continue to pursue these cells if for no other reason than it is inexpensive and the lessons learned here will benefit me if and when I decide to attempt other projects, and who knows, we might still stumble on something very positive here.
@Lidmotor:
The Steel Wire Pancake Joule Thief has been a lot of fun to play with. For grins and giggles, I connected this circuit to a small (quarter size or less) solar cell rated at 1.5v 40ma and it lights the LED as good as a AA battery. I have six of these cells and intend to see if anything useful can be done with these together. This circuit has been running nonstop from the cement cell since I made it and is performing as well today as when I started. I found a 50í roll of the wire and doubled it over in the coil, hence the A and B wires were separate strands but it did not perform nearly as well.
Brad S
__________________
 

Last edited by b_rads; 08-01-2011 at 08:01 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #843  
Old 08-01-2011, 09:56 PM
ibpointless2 ibpointless2 is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 829
Quote:
Originally Posted by b_rads View Post
@IB:
[FONT=Arial][SIZE=3][COLOR=#444444]I would like to have shown you the glue cell with copper and magnesium lighting an LED with Lidmotorís Pancake Joule Thief but, the current has dropped to almost nothing and the circuit would not start. I could jump the cell with a AA Battery and the glue cell would barely light the LED for a few seconds before going out (the cell acts like a capacitor). I think too much of the charge was dumping into the first circuit capacitor before getting through the circuit. Interesting though is the cell, just like yours is still showing voltage. I measure slightly over 1 volt with no current and no visible degradation to the metals. This is quite unusual since the magnesium ribbon usually deteriorates fairly quickly. I enjoyed your last video and look forward to how you might apply this technology

that's good to hear b_rads about your cell. These glue cells act more like electret due to the nature of them having only voltage and very little amps. I'll be posting a video later on me trying light a LED for a few seconds with a joule thief type circuit, and I also will be showing some ideas I have too. These cell just like a electret can take shorting out very well and the no deterioration should help keep these cells going for a long time.
__________________
 
Reply With Quote
  #844  
Old 08-01-2011, 11:11 PM
mikrovolt mikrovolt is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 788
Due to recent events the Frank Znidarsic constant may have been found in more than light and gravity which means the frequency sets are involved in
our energy cells. Possibly the size of the cells and the size of the gap
this could mean a dramatic increase in output. So the cell size resonates with these frequency sets and the gaps between layers sized to
allow these various frequencies to reside.
(also please leave the doc alone because he is very busy with all this, it can be exausting.) Congradulations on the continued discoveries Ron !

here are a bunch more new little spikies evenly spaced and increase dipole sent over 1 wire no tower.
‪Driving 48 LED's With Less Than 0.1pF Capacity Coupling‬‏ - YouTube

interview with Frank Znidarsic, a basic summary:

‪AlienScientist Interview with Frank Znidarsic Part 1 of 2‬‏ - YouTube
‪AlienScientist Interview with Frank Znidarsic Part 2 of 2‬‏ - YouTube
( Frank's doing well with his Plank's constant derivative )

I will PM JB this evening re: convention
__________________
 

Last edited by mikrovolt; 08-02-2011 at 01:51 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #845  
Old 08-01-2011, 11:32 PM
NickZ's Avatar
NickZ NickZ is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 894
Guys:
I find several disadvantages with the cement cells as well as other cells that bothers me because I'm still not sure what is really going on.

The fact that the cement cells won't connect in parallel, so the total amount of current available is limited to just the amount of the current in the weakest cell, when placed in a parallel.
The second limitation is that they seam to form a resistance inside when they are in operation, that causes for a lowering of their current and voltage output. They are not discharging as people think, but are creating a resistance factor that is limiting their permanent output ability. When the leds get dim after a while of being connected to the cells, there is still enough current and voltage available, but the light is still dim.
A third limiting factor is that they will oxidize the electrodes in time, as well as possibly drying out and shrinking from the cans. And if additional external charge is applied to them they will oxidize the electrode even more quickly. Making them unfit to connect to solar panel, etz...
So, for the various reasons mentioned above, I am looking to see what can be done to make a permanent output cell that does not have the problems associated with the cement cells.

I hope to see some updates on Lasersaber Mg/C cell. And I also hope that John Bedini has some new ideas to share about his cells, also.


Ib: Thanks for showing your last video, hope to see your next one lighting an led. The two plates idea seams like a good way to go, especially with a dry type of sealed E-poxy - Epsom electret.
My glue cell is still has some output although it does not move my analog meter, it still helps to light the cement cell's red led. The cell still might have 0.2 volts left or so, but no current.
@ b-rads: Good to see you back in the game. Sorry if I sound a bit discouraged at times. I hope that you guys will all help to encourage me, with your new cells, tests, and ideas.
@ Lidmotor- although these cells won't light a house, or run a car, they are still interesting, especially their permanent output abilities. They make for great night lights, outdoor patio lights, and boat lights, as well.
I will still try to replicate the Mg/C cell, in my own way. Thank you for your replies.
__________________
 
Reply With Quote
  #846  
Old 08-02-2011, 05:42 AM
John_K John_K is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 550
Renaissance Charge Convention

Quote:
Originally Posted by minoly View Post
I hear JB had some "sweet" crystal cells at the convention. looking forward to hearing more about them from anyone who is in the know...

Patrick
Hi Patrick,

Yes, John B demonstrated how to make a copper/magnesium crystal cells that was shown on YT a few months ago. Chuck also showed the same cells had not deteriorated at all since made.

There was also a window motor running of several cells in series/parallel arrangement.


John K.
__________________
 
Reply With Quote
  #847  
Old 08-02-2011, 02:52 PM
NickZ's Avatar
NickZ NickZ is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 894
John K
Can you confirm if the Mg/Carbon cells, as well as the Mg/Copper cells can be place in PARALLEL to increase the available current. As the cement cells cannot. What is their current and voltage levels now.? Has it changed or dropped since they were made?
Has John B made any newer cells lately, since those other cells were made?
Glad to hear that his cells show little or no deterioration after several months. That is a very important point, as there is no purpose to making ones that just falls apart.
Sorry for all the question, but it makes a difference on which direction to take. So far the use of salt has been the only way to obtain 1 to 2 amps per cell, but at the expense of the metals.
__________________
 
Reply With Quote
  #848  
Old 08-02-2011, 04:46 PM
John_K John_K is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 550
Quote:
Originally Posted by NickZ View Post
John K
Can you confirm if the Mg/Carbon cells, as well as the Mg/Copper cells can be place in PARALLEL to increase the available current. As the cement cells cannot. What is their current and voltage levels now.? Has it changed or dropped since they were made?
Has John B made any newer cells lately, since those other cells were made?
Glad to hear that his cells show little or no deterioration after several months. That is a very important point, as there is no purpose to making ones that just falls apart.
Sorry for all the question, but it makes a difference on which direction to take. So far the use of salt has been the only way to obtain 1 to 2 amps per cell, but at the expense of the metals.
NickZ,

Sorry I don't know the details. Hopefully John B or Chuck can come on and answer.


John K.
__________________
 
Reply With Quote
  #849  
Old 08-02-2011, 07:46 PM
NickZ's Avatar
NickZ NickZ is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 894
John K:
Thanks, there are a lot of Johns out there, maybe one of them may pop in.
__________________
 
Reply With Quote
  #850  
Old 08-03-2011, 04:06 PM
b_rads b_rads is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Alabama, South East U.S.
Posts: 207
Quote:
Originally Posted by ibpointless2 View Post
I'll be posting a video later on me trying light a LED for a few seconds with a joule thief type circuit, and I also will be showing some ideas I have too.
I am very impressed the way you charged the capacitor. How long did it take to charge? Can you verify this for me - I connected a glue cell in series to a "AA" and the voltage reading increased same as you showed in your video. The issue I ran into though, the glue cell blocks current while allowing voltage. I could not pull any current from the "AA" when connected in series to the glue cell. I hope this question has been stated clearly enough to understand what I am asking.
Thanks,
Brad S
__________________
 
Reply With Quote
  #851  
Old 08-03-2011, 05:37 PM
NickZ's Avatar
NickZ NickZ is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 894
Brad:
That is basically what I found also, that I can charge batteries or capacitors with the voltage from a glue, or cement cell, to their same voltage levels, but with only the tiny amounts of current that the cells have, which can't be increased. In my case it is 1.2 volts and about 50mA.
If the batteries or caps that have been charged by the glue cell or cement cell are combined and place in series, the voltage is increased, but not the current. Or, do you find that the current can be increased also, by this later in series placement of the caps or batteries.
The problem has been to increase the current operating levels so that the cells will have some power to run things and not just fluffy voltage with no power, just like a dead AA that still has a volt left but hardly no current. That is why the Mg/Carbon cell is of interest, IF it can be connected in parallel to increase current levels as well. I feel the oxidation factor can be controlled if the cell really can output 1 to 2 amps.
There is a reason these cells will not allow current to pass, and I'm hoping to find the solution. It looks like the reason is that ions pile up on the poles, which restrict the current flow as well as the voltage in the cells. This happen on a newly made cells, also, so it's not the oxidation, or water factor, causing this drop in power readings from the cells.
What to do about it???
__________________
 
Reply With Quote
  #852  
Old 08-03-2011, 06:02 PM
NickZ's Avatar
NickZ NickZ is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 894
Mikrovolt:
Thanks for your PM. It does not surprise me about John Hutchinson not telling all. But, can you explain what you mean.

I think that Dr. Stiffler is something else, how he comes up with these amazing ideas. The results in his latest videos are truly outstanding.

I hope to hear more about John Bedini and his newest tests, as well as John Hutchinsons untold discoveries. I'm all ears...
NickZ
__________________
 
Reply With Quote
  #853  
Old 08-04-2011, 03:43 AM
John_Bedini's Avatar
John_Bedini John_Bedini is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Hayden Lake, ID, USA
Posts: 914
Bedini Earth Lights

Nick,
I find no problem in getting some real usable current out of the semiconductor copper magnesium cell. currents of up to 500 ma to 2 amps no problem and you can parallel them for more current. Chuck did explain and show that when using carbon any thing that you use to connect them can and does migrate into the magnesium and does attack the crystal formation. Copper does work the best in this cell. Hope Chuck will post.
John B
__________________
 
Reply With Quote
  #854  
Old 08-04-2011, 03:44 AM
chuck H's Avatar
chuck H chuck H is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 168
Renaissance Convention/Crystal battery/window motor

Thanks Josh for allowing John Bedini and I to hook up crystal cells to your window motor. I did not look at what electronics you had on that window motor with that 30 pound rotor... but it was a real treat to see those cells run that machine for the last hour we had at the convention. Next year in August when Energenx host the next convention in Hayden Idaho U.S.A., as presented by John Bedini, we can show more on those cells running a few differnet devices/machines... I only had a few seconds to film this but here is the video of crystal cells running this window motor. Mag/Carbon... Mag/Copper...and Alum... Details to come on next convention


‪Window motor on crystal cells.wmv‬‏ - YouTube
__________________
 

Last edited by chuck H; 08-04-2011 at 08:31 PM. Reason: Wrong video format
Reply With Quote
  #855  
Old 08-04-2011, 04:31 AM
NickZ's Avatar
NickZ NickZ is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 894
@ John B:
Thank you for the reply, that is what I needed to know. I had been wondering if there had been any new cell developments, and what had been presented lately.
Anything else that you'd like to add would be welcome.
I sort of felt left out in right field by myself for awhile, but I will get back to it.

There are some good decent people to work with here on this forum, that I've come to appreciate.

@ John H - the video has been removed.
__________________
 
Reply With Quote
  #856  
Old 08-04-2011, 04:51 AM
NickZ's Avatar
NickZ NickZ is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 894
Sorry, I meant to say Chuck H, no video available.
__________________
 
Reply With Quote
  #857  
Old 08-04-2011, 01:30 PM
b_rads b_rads is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Alabama, South East U.S.
Posts: 207
Glue cell powers pancake joule thief

Welcome back John Bedini and chuck h. Your absence here has been missed. Your insight and knowledge on these crystal cells is invaluable, I hope you do not wait until next August as Chuck stated to share more about this technology. I, for one, am hungry to hear more and yes the link provided to see the cells powering the window motor indicates the video has been removed.
@IB:
I took a little different direction with your glue cell and posted a short video of the new cell and it running the steel wire pancake coil joule thief. I hope you enjoy this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWgmaHcPblw
I am still very confused about these cells, but the experience working with them is making me ask questions and searching for answers and that is a good thing.
Brad S
__________________
 
Reply With Quote
  #858  
Old 08-04-2011, 02:52 PM
minoly's Avatar
minoly minoly is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 514
Here's one, will get a couple more in series and paralleled to run the window B kit. later:

‪min2oly's Channel‬‏ - YouTube


patrick
__________________
 
Reply With Quote
  #859  
Old 08-04-2011, 02:53 PM
NickZ's Avatar
NickZ NickZ is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 894
Brad:

That new cell looks nice, good to see you placing it in a hermetically sealed encasing.
That may be what is also needed for the cement cells as well, but just on the top of the can, as water won't dry out, and electrodes may not rust, thus helping to prevent the weakening of the cell.
I think that clear epoxy and Epsom as an electrolyte would work better than the white glue, as it has no water. Worth a try, I can make it with regular salt instead, to try it out for now.
John Bedini does not think that these cells work on a galvanic reaction, I don't either. Nobody has been able to explain why all regular galvanic cells lose their charge, but these don't. My feeling is that they are working from the potential difference between the two different electrodes that is what is driving them. Salt just improves the ion transfer, but does not create it.
Same metal electrodes don't have as much of a potential voltage difference and therefore less output, but still work from the same idea.
Lithium is also a salt, maybe that can be used, if it can be obtained.
__________________
 
Reply With Quote
  #860  
Old 08-04-2011, 08:35 PM
chuck H's Avatar
chuck H chuck H is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 168
Window motor at 2011 convention

Here is the video. Sorry I uploaded wrong video format in last post. that has been corrected. here is new link. This is a 30+ pound rotor. Cells are in series.

‪Window motor on crystal cells.wmv‬‏ - YouTube
__________________
 
Reply With Quote
  #861  
Old 08-04-2011, 09:24 PM
minoly's Avatar
minoly minoly is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 514
Quote:
Originally Posted by minoly View Post
Here's one, will get a couple more in series and paralleled to run the window B kit. later:

‪min2oly's Channel‬‏ - YouTube


patrick
Any one able to help? John B.?

I'm racking my brain trying to find the info on what else JB was/is doping those copper bowl crystal cells w/
much appreciated,

Patrick
__________________
 
Reply With Quote
  #862  
Old 08-04-2011, 10:15 PM
chuck H's Avatar
chuck H chuck H is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 168
Doping

@ Minoly. Only alum, Copper, H2O, and Magnesium. Thats it!
__________________
 
Reply With Quote
  #863  
Old 08-04-2011, 10:40 PM
minoly's Avatar
minoly minoly is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 514
Quote:
Originally Posted by chuck H View Post
@ Minoly. Only alum, Copper, H2O, and Magnesium. Thats it!
excellent - Thanks
that's what I have in there, just thought I remembered something else - I must be loosing it...

Patrick
__________________
 
Reply With Quote
  #864  
Old 08-05-2011, 12:00 AM
mikrovolt mikrovolt is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 788
@chuckH and John Bedini
Hi thankyou for taking time to drop by and for sharing.
Is there a source for magnesium plate ?
__________________
 
Reply With Quote
  #865  
Old 08-05-2011, 04:19 PM
ibpointless2 ibpointless2 is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 829
sorry that I have not been posting lately due to I have lost my internect connection becuase some road company cut it.

These cells are confusing when they don't corrode or die. I will try to answer your questions the best I can but the lack of internet is really making it hard.

I still play with these glue crystal cells a lot now since i have a lot of free time. I have some still connected to the clock and even though i left it connected when i went to sleep and the screen had no power to it i woke up the next morning to see that the screen had power to it, as if the cell recharged it self over night with the LCD clock as a load. The LCD clock is still going and fluxuates in and out but now keeps the screen lit all the time. Also a very noticable flashing is coming from the LCD.

I've also noticed that glue may not be needed. I took some water and mix in a lot of salt subsititue and Epsom salts and soak some paper in it too. I put the paper between the aluminum and copper plates to dry and hung them up. The paper is bone dry and feels like sand paper; the cells still produce power showing me that glue and water was never needed. I'm doing shorting out test on it now to see if a galvanic reaction occurs.

Sorry if i'm not quick to respond as my internet is down. I have some new videos i shot of some cool things the glue cells are doing and not doing but I need my internet to upload them. I'm also panning on making a big multicell glue crystal cell too, I'm thinking about a 20 to 50 maybe of these cells in series to see what I can power.

Lets keep up the good work, I think we're making cells that are not galvanic anymore.
__________________
 
Reply With Quote
  #866  
Old 08-05-2011, 04:21 PM
ibpointless2 ibpointless2 is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 829
Quote:
Originally Posted by b_rads View Post
I am very impressed the way you charged the capacitor. How long did it take to charge? Can you verify this for me - I connected a glue cell in series to a "AA" and the voltage reading increased same as you showed in your video. The issue I ran into though, the glue cell blocks current while allowing voltage. I could not pull any current from the "AA" when connected in series to the glue cell. I hope this question has been stated clearly enough to understand what I am asking.
Thanks,
Brad S
Yes it block current but also acts like a capacitor too. No current being consumed means no power is being taken from the battery. You must put the voltage in a capacitor (AA to Cell to Capacitor) and store the energy in capacitor and then the capacitor can do the Power work for you as it will convert it. You don't need amps to do work, just a lot voltage.
__________________
 
Reply With Quote
  #867  
Old 08-05-2011, 05:36 PM
Lidmotor's Avatar
Lidmotor Lidmotor is offline
Gold Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,011
Encapsulated cell

Quote:
Originally Posted by b_rads View Post
Welcome back John Bedini and chuck h. Your absence here has been missed. Your insight and knowledge on these crystal cells is invaluable, I hope you do not wait until next August as Chuck stated to share more about this technology. I, for one, am hungry to hear more and yes the link provided to see the cells powering the window motor indicates the video has been removed.
@IB:
I took a little different direction with your glue cell and posted a short video of the new cell and it running the steel wire pancake coil joule thief. I hope you enjoy this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWgmaHcPblw
I am still very confused about these cells, but the experience working with them is making me ask questions and searching for answers and that is a good thing.
Brad S
I am curious how long your encapsulated cell will work. I hope that you give us a report later on. Trapping everything inside a chunk of plastic is a very interesting idea. The chemical reaction will still take place but the pressure and lack of an air interface might just slow it down. Maybe not. I don't know. Let us know what happens.

Lidmotor
__________________
 
Reply With Quote
  #868  
Old 08-05-2011, 05:48 PM
b_rads b_rads is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Alabama, South East U.S.
Posts: 207
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lidmotor View Post
I am curious how long your encapsulated cell will work. I hope that you give us a report later on. Trapping everything inside a chunk of plastic is a very interesting idea. The chemical reaction will still take place but the pressure and lack of an air interface might just slow it down. Maybe not. I don't know. Let us know what happens.

Lidmotor
I too will be interested to see how long it lasts and will certainly keep the group posted on the status. Next time I make these cells I will not use insulated copper wire. The liquid plastic creates a good amount of heat when the catalyst is added and allowed a small amount of seepage at the cathode. I will try 3 in 1 oil on the metals above the electrolyte as you suggested. Wish I could take credit for this but, NickZ has been suggesting this idea for a while. I also intend to try this concept with the John Bedini/chuck H copper(semiconductor)/magnesium/alum for comparison.
Thanks,
Brad S
__________________
 
Reply With Quote
  #869  
Old 08-05-2011, 07:00 PM
Lidmotor's Avatar
Lidmotor Lidmotor is offline
Gold Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,011
JB's burnt copper bowl and magnesium cell

@All
I did some digging back in this thread and found the video that Aaron made showing John B. and Chuck making the burnt copper bowl and magnesium cells. This is a cell that I have not made yet and is on my to do list. It is "doable" by any kitchen table experimenter like me and obviously works---and lasts!! Here is the video posted many pages ago by Inquorate. It was before this thread went somewhat quiet.

‪Bedini Copper, Alum and Magnesium Battery‬‏ - YouTube

Lidmotor
__________________
 
Reply With Quote
  #870  
Old 08-05-2011, 08:33 PM
NickZ's Avatar
NickZ NickZ is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 894
This guy is showing that the Mg/Carbon blocks produce more current using bleach, than salt. And I think that salt produces more current than Alum. What we don't know is how long will the bleach last, or can you just add more straight bleach when it dries out. Bleach is something that I can get here. I was also thinking of trying honey as the electrolyte, as it has special qualities that might help to keep the rust at bay.
‪Magnesium carbon & liquid bleach battery cell‬‏ - YouTube
__________________
 
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



Please consider supporting Energetic Forum with a voluntary monthly subscription.

Choose your voluntary subscription

For one-time donations, please use the below button.


All times are GMT. The time now is 06:42 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO v1.4.0 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Shoutbox provided by vBShout v6.2.8 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
2007-2015 Copyright - Energetic Forum - All Rights Reserved

Bedini RPX Sideband Generator

Tesla Chargers