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Old 11-20-2010, 02:35 AM
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Arrow Bedini Ferris Wheel Regauging Motor

This thread is for the discussion of the megawheel that John showed.
It idled itself without drawing current and the axle wheel motor used a
"highly modified" Bedini-Cole switch.

The coils at the bottom probably weight more than I do.

Anyway, please take a look at Tom Bearden's Radus page:
The Tom Bearden Website
and contemplate those concepts.

I'll post some pics soon - if you have some pics, go ahead and post them
here even if they're similar, just get them coming!

Also, who is the first brave soul to post a proposed schematic or even
block diagram or even flowchart of how the axle wheel regauging motor
works and the circuit at the bottom?

Looking forward to the response here as I think this thread will become
very popular.

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Old 11-20-2010, 03:17 PM
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stab at the boots

I'll take a stab at how the boots worked. I think the boot steel is set up like a Leedskalnin perpetual magnet holder (PMH) and it's in the off position. The boot has four of these PMH's on it. The magnet is always attracted to the walking surface when it's in the off position. When a person wishes to take a step all he has to do is pulse the PMH coils once and the magnetic force is redirected into the steel frame of the shoe that holds the steel posts, which removes the force to the floor. Once the pulse has ended the person could place his foot down and the magnet would direct is flow naturally to the steel floor.

Still trying to figure out how this ties into the hub motor.

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The workings of Watson

Electricity,
The mystery is none as it is right in front of you. I will give it to you again.

The machine requires one DC motor, 555 timer circuit for pulses to chop the DC motor, one mono pole energizer and one large mass weight wheel. the two signals are out of phase from each other. and a capacitor tuned to the energizer. That is the mystery. other then that some simple wiring, you wont do it on a small scale. As I said it is right in front of your eyes. It's the way you think about it.

On a big scale it's very easy to work on. simple logic the bigger the generator section is the slower you must turn it. since it is not a conventional generator you must store the charge before you discharge
the capacitors to the batteries. If the timing is right the batteries charge right up to full.

It's your own mind stopping you from success as your own mind understands what your intentions are, that is what is stopping you.
All your questions have been answered for years. Very easy to see that once the machine works we will never here of you again.
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Electricity,
The mystery is none as it is right in front of you. I will give it to you again.

The machine requires one DC motor, 555 timer circuit for pulses to chop the DC motor, one mono pole energizer and one large mass weight wheel. the two signals are out of phase from each other. and a capacitor tuned to the energizer. That is the mystery. other then that some simple wiring, you wont do it on a small scale. As I said it is right in front of your eyes. It's the way you think about it.
Thanks John, for everything I mean. Regardless of my ( or other's ) technical incompetance, I personally have always found you to be a kind and generous individual with what you understand. Its not easy information to grasp initially. It takes trials on one's own behalf to discover the principles. Learning to fabricate and circuit building is something that i have had to struggle with. I'm getting a bit better at it, but i don't think i would have ever even tried if i hadn't found your work online. Its a joy to experiment, even through the failures there is so much to learn.

Just wanted to say thank you.

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Old 11-20-2010, 06:21 PM
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Well no one said it did tie to the hub. But using the principles in the Radus boots I think I could see how to use it. Lets say we only had 2 coils on the hub. One "off" and one "on". Meaning in the "on" stage it would put the coil in attraction mode from the memory it would pull the magnet toward it. If properly space at the right timing a magnet should pass the "off" (no attraction) coil and generate a pulse that could be directed to the first "on" coil and shift its flux so the magnet would no longer be attracted to it and allow it pass. Flip flop these coils to off and on and the process could possibly keep the rotation going. Add more coils to aid in the process...
Obviously oversimplified, and prob has nothing to do with that giant machine.
Also I went down to Coral Castle and visited Ed Leedskalnins flywheel/generator. I saw what I though could have been many "perpetual motion holders" in the little tool area that was marked off. Lots of iron to manipulate flux paths.
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Old 11-20-2010, 08:29 PM
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The machine requires one DC motor, 555 timer circuit for pulses to chop the DC motor, one mono pole energizer and one large mass weight wheel. the two signals are out of phase from each other. and a capacitor tuned to the energizer. That is the mystery. other then that some simple wiring, you wont do it on a small scale.
Hi John,

Thanks for the explanation. Would like to know if the collapsing field's energy at any switch-off in the DC motor has also been used in the operation?

One more thing: Aaron mentioned Radus boots and linked to the Bearden page for it. I wonder what is the relationship between the Watson (i.e. yours) machine and the Radus boots?

I understand the flux switching in the Radus setup but Bearden mentioned the magnets Radus used had a memory.
Does this mean that the Radus boots could not be built with normal off the shelf magnets? Or Bearden meant the memory effect for the Floyd Sweet setup?

Could you give some explanation on these things I am puzzled by?

Thanks,
Gyula

PS: in the meantime I realised the answer is yes for my question on the collapsing field in the DC motor, sorry.

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Ferris Wheel Motor - Prezi Demonstration

What a historical event for all!!

I put together a presentation of the machine using prezi.com I find it much easier to present this subject matter with the pictures I was able to gather across the net. I will be updating the presentation periodically in the future as items need to be added or changed.

First of all, I don’t want claim to know the entire workings of this machine, but I do know that this machine is by far the most advanced model John Bedini has built in public viewing. I might as well say it!!!
This machine is necessary for FE research!!!

This is it people!!!!!


It has so many implications and applications for our research in this field that this will simply blow your mind!!

Here is the presentation. Please click on the "more" button to go to full screen.



Bedini Ferris Wheel Motor by Jeremy Burnum on Prezi

I have provided point of reference and a beginning for all of us to understand, so please correct me if I am wrong in any area John, Aaron or anyone else. We can’t thank you enough John for this huge gift to society!!!

If this presentation method is not best, please let me know. I wanted everyone to be able to zoom in and out freely on these images.

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Old 11-20-2010, 10:28 PM
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Jeremy,
I must point out to you some important points
I have used no reed switches as they are not dependable in this motor. It uses Hall devices in both sections.

The three coils at the bottom are used in interferometer mode by creating non liner fields in pulse operation.

The re-gauging motor is a little more advanced then the boots on Tom Bearden's page. ED's sweet sixteen was used in the re-gauge motor /generator outside of that the sixteen magnetic poles were combined with ferrite and neo to shape the south poles for switching of the big wheel.

The center coil 200 lbs 4000 turns of wire 4 wires arranged as a magnetic amplifier through the use of impedance between the coils.
The re-gauging motor did not need that iron to work as the non liner fields were already in place. The magnets were not condition in any way as Sweet did.

The Machine is not that easy to build but it looks simple. ED's generator is very simple in construction the u shaped magnets around the wheel end up to be super magnetic poles as I said during my talk nn ss nn ss nn ss and so on around the wheel, the coil was iron. I find no electricity at work, but we call it that, only magnetic current as ED said. little magnets running one agents the other, it is this that causes current to flow.

The big coil is shaped by the use of the iron flaps it directs the magnetic field to open the window or gate the energy flow all that is collected by the capacitor. The heavyside current outside the wire that is also collected. The re-gauging motor produces a Delta Phi current and returns it to the motor (mass less charge) NO CURRENT USED. For every pulse forward you can find one backwards that is equal but out of phase. So great page just correct the few little things. Good work
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What a historical event for all!!

I put together a presentation of the machine using prezi.com I find it much easier to present this subject matter with the pictures I was able to gather across the net. I will be updating the presentation periodically in the future as items need to be added or changed.

First of all, I don’t want claim to know the entire workings of this machine, but I do know that this machine is by far the most advanced model John Bedini has built in public viewing. I might as well say it!!!
This machine is necessary for FE research!!!

This is it people!!!!!


It has so many implications and applications for our research in this field that this will simply blow your mind!!

Here is the presentation. Please click on the "more" button to go to full screen.



Bedini Ferris Wheel Motor by Jeremy Burnum on Prezi

I have provided point of reference and a beginning for all of us to understand, so please correct me if I am wrong in any area John, Aaron or anyone else. We can’t thank you enough John for this huge gift to society!!!

If this presentation method is not best, please let me know. I wanted everyone to be able to zoom in and out freely on these images.

Jeremy Burnum
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Jeremy,
I must point out to you some important points
I have used no reed switches as they are not dependable in this motor. It uses Hall devices in both sections.

The three coils at the bottom are used in interferometer mode by creating non liner fields in pulse operation.

The re-gauging motor is a little more advanced then the boots on Tom Bearden's page. ED's sweet sixteen was used in the re-gauge motor /generator outside of that the sixteen magnetic poles were combined with ferrite and neo to shape the south poles for switching of the big wheel.

The center coil 200 lbs 4000 turns of wire 4 wires arranged as a magnetic amplifier through the use of impedance between the coils.
The re-gauging motor did not need that iron to work as the non liner fields were already in place. The magnets were not condition in any way as Sweet did.

The Machine is not that easy to build but it looks simple. ED's generator is very simple in construction the u shaped magnets around the wheel end up to be super magnetic poles as I said during my talk nn ss nn ss nn ss and so on around the wheel, the coil was iron. I find no electricity at work, but we call it that, only magnetic current as ED said. little magnets running one agents the other, it is this that causes current to flow.

The big coil is shaped by the use of the iron flaps it directs the magnetic field to open the window or gate the energy flow all that is collected by the capacitor. The heavyside current outside the wire that is also collected. The re-gauging motor produces a Delta Phi current and returns it to the motor (mass less charge) NO CURRENT USED. For every pulse forward you can find one backwards that is equal but out of phase. So great page just correct the few little things. Good work
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Hey John,

This is so far out of my league it's doing my head in and I've studied a lot of Ed's work. Rick calls the machine the "3GT". What does that mean?


John K.

P.S. Great presentation Jeremy!
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I only posted the reference on Bearden's page to the boots because
John mentioned it at the conference and that pages introduces people
to the concept of the magnetic memory. I didn't intend to say that the
motor is like the circuit concept on that page.
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Just wanted to say thanks for all the work Jeremy B put into explaining Bedini's latest work. The work of non-linear systems falls in with the presentation of Peter L also. The Lock-ridge device lecture I think was amazing and the principals of that device are present in the SSG and Watson machine.

I am not sure that most people understand how important and how different this new machine operates under.

I have been trying to tell people that we need to look at magnet flows as they can be switched and controlled very easily if done right. We want to gate and modulate magnetic fields in an asymmetrical way!!! The magnet is just setting there pouring out huge amounts of energy!!! All we have to do is switch them very easily to change their condition field. How? By forcing a non-linear arrangement of the fields!!

We also need to look at the ability to create large amounts of torque and high speed with DC shunt motors using field windings!!! The answer is a large flywheel to maintain inertia which is torque, and using a cap that is at least 10x larger than the back EMF discharge into the extremely low impedance and resistance of the DC shunt motor.

Tesla has been telling us this to us all the time. Read his “Method of Conversion”

"Experiments with Alternate Currents of Very High Frequency and Their Application to Methods of Artificial Illumination"




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Hi folks, I was able to grab a few pics from Jeremy's link. Nice device John B., I had a feeling this would be built.
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Thanks to all that had a part in the conference. I was very fortunate to be apart of this. Thanks John for really making us think...and giving to all who will open their minds and try. This looks like a great forum.

I am still trying to understand all of this on a deeper level and it seems to me that the magnets are getting a kick after the tranistor has closed and dumped to the cap. Is this what the ten coiler is doing on the main shaft? Those coils are offset to the magnets on the big rotor. If so that would help the wheel keep spinning along with the kinetic energy. But I believe there are only ten coils making the sum of the two sets of wheels non-linear??. Is that how it works? I did read a patent years ago where someone had a out of round spinning generator.. self powered. Seems to me this could be looked at from that perspective.
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Karl,
let me point out something here to you. If you are looking at back EMF the solution is wrong. I stated when speaking that Back EMF is always lower then the applied voltage. that current keeps the dc motor from going faster.

Another way to look at it is if you are at maximum on a dc motor anything faster would just become a dc generator. The Bedini machine does not use Back EMF. I have often wondered why people keep use this term when it does no apply to these machines. Yes Tesla tried to kill it all the time, What Peter explained was far more efficient to use and very practical. You must do gobs of work to use a standard DC motor in this operation but work it will, Peter also explained that very well.
The Bedini/Cole switch works even better at this. On the Window Motor Group I explained once the problem of a very strange current that the neo presented when using copper coils, Peter would remember that. The current is known as an eddy current even if no power is applied, same thing as sliding a neo magnet down an aluminum bar.

On the big motor I could not afford to have any of that so I used a modified Bedini/Cole switch. I made the Core of the coils oversize for that reason and used JB weld to stick them together.Also it was found that the diodes had to be right at the switch for very low impedance and DCR. I know you guys can make this machine if you focus.

My intention was not to hide anything you were free to touch it examine it and run it if you wanted to. I was just standing around to help.
John K take your monopole single coil machine and use the Bedini/Cole switch then shape the field of the bottom coil like I did. Do the timing wheel right use a hall and collect everything from the switch to the capacitor and dump the charge in seconds according to the charge rate, you will see.
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Just wanted to say thanks for all the work Jeremy B put into explaining Bedini's latest work. The work of non-linear systems falls in with the presentation of Peter L also. The Lock-ridge device lecture I think was amazing and the principals of that device are present in the SSG and Watson machine.

I am not sure that most people understand how important and how different this new machine operates under.

I have been trying to tell people that we need to look at magnet flows as they can be switched and controlled very easily if done right. We want to gate and modulate magnetic fields in an asymmetrical way!!! The magnet is just setting there pouring out huge amounts of energy!!! All we have to do is switch them very easily to change their condition field. How? By forcing a non-linear arrangement of the fields!!

We also need to look at the ability to create large amounts of torque and high speed with DC shunt motors using field windings!!! The answer is a large flywheel to maintain inertia which is torque, and using a cap that is at least 10x larger than the back EMF discharge into the extremely low impedance and resistance of the DC shunt motor.

Tesla has been telling us this to us all the time. Read his “Method of Conversion”

"Experiments with Alternate Currents of Very High Frequency and Their Application to Methods of Artificial Illumination"




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John K take your monopole single coil machine and use the Bedini/Cole switch then shape the field of the bottom coil like I did. Do the timing wheel right use a hall and collect everything from the switch to the capacitor and dump the charge in seconds according to the charge rate, you will see.
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Hey John,

Thanks. Just to clarify - if using the monopole rotor where all magnets are North facing out I only need the half bipolar Bedini/Cole switch right?

Also, I have a 22" bike wheel with 16 superpole magnets already on it. This should work fine. Just have to make up the timing wheel with the hall.


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I have used the half bipolar switch on my 3 pole kit before and had very low current draw. Had 1245rpm @ 12.10 volts 7.5ma draw= .10 watt. I wasn't using hall switching, I used a trigger coil (bifilar). But what I found was that there was really nothing to recycle or collect. If I remember correctly the 10uf 250 volt cap wouldn't even charge to 2 or 3 volts. With this set up I was going for the lowest amp draw I could get though. So I assume I need to turn things up so I have something to collect.

John states to put the diodes close to the switch? I had my diodes connect directly from the base of the 21194 to the base of the mpsa06. I didn't trim the legs down any. not sure what he means by that. Also had the bridge hooked directly to my coil wires. Should I be using something other than an 1n914 for my diodes?

Not sure what shaping the field does, makes the rotor faster or gives better collection of spike, anyone know. And what do you use to shape the field, copper, aluminuim or steel?

Then John says to "dump the charge in seconds according to the charge rate" are we dumping to the input battery or a secondary? Dump the charge in seconds, ok I assume that means dump it fairly quickly, a couple of seconds. According to the charge rate? Doen he want double the volts over the primary and with how big of a cap. I assume a small cap so it will fill quickly but does it matter what size?

If I use my 3 pole kit are my cores large enough ? If we are dumping into a secondary how many batteries will I need to have so my motor can run non stop, 2,3 or 4?

Sorry for so many question but I just want to get this working and have already tried so mant different ways without success.

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Thanks. Just to clarify - if using the monopole rotor where all magnets are North facing out I only need the half bipolar Bedini/Cole switch right?

Also, I have a 22" bike wheel with 16 superpole magnets already on it. This should work fine. Just have to make up the timing wheel with the hall.


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John,
Is there a definitive paper or guide you have written on the Ferris Wheel that we could possibly get our hands on? Something meaty you have written that we can go by? If its all in FEG than fine, but up till now I dont think most people, including myself, quite captured what you wrote in there. I understand you have been putting it out there for a very long time. And giving us nudges, but there are too many "variations". We need ONE, get this done then add this, build to focus on. Obviously the big 10 coiler, and the other kits, are all but put together for us. Unfortunately In this day and age of instant-ness, unless we have a repeatable, dummy proof way of doing it, how do we show the masses that they dont have to be beholden to the powers that be.
I feel we need "THE" way to wind our coils. I think that is one of the primary set-backs for a lot of people. Right about the time you've made 10 5-filar coils, they are wound wrong.
I'm not asking for a dummed down "instructable", (though that would be really simple) but the Bedini way, type of thing would help the industrious people that are willing to put hard work into this, would be very helpful.
I remember reading Ed L. talking about a coil, and making it more efficient. He wound the coil with a core. Then basically took a sleeve, of the same material as the core, and slid it over the coil and connected it to the core. Is this what the flaps are at the central coil on the Ferris Wheel?
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Mark,
The pictures are very plain. I understand what your saying. You must build this machine at a much different level. You can see the arrangement
for the coils. The 3 pole monopole kit is not the same thing at all. Look at my geometry.

I have used that switching many times and I never found what your saying.

I have used that switch on little machines and charged big capacitors with no problem so the problem must be in the coils your using.
Look at the wire size it makes a big difference. The three pole monopole has the wrong wire size and is way to small to do this.

I really do not want to keep repeating myself with everybody here.

I have told you what the machine is I have left nothing out about what I did.

Everybody should be able to see the coil arrangement, notice the outside coils 1/2 the impedance of the big center coil Total impedance of three coils 12 .2 ohms for that machine, not the three pole monopole kit.
[color="Red"]On the monopole if you do it this way you must think about how to switch the output capacitor and use an inverted switch on the output batteries, again this is not the same machine. If you going to use the BI-POLAR SWITCH you can not trigger it like the SSG, I said it used halls.[/COLOR]

The currents are not important here in the front-end as this current is limited by the isolation of the power supply rails by the BEDINI/COLE switch. Using the term BACK EMF is meaningless as it does not apply to this machine or any SSG.The speed of the machine is also not important, it's the overlapping of the switching that is important in the dwell angle. This is equivalent to a car distributor and it better be set right.

The metal shield located at the bottom of the big coil allows the adjustment of the magnetic field, in other words allows you to tune the magnetic field for time delay in stored energy, so don't leave home without it.

The size of the coils,

The groups have never built one that big so it is a complete different world to use something that big, and that is small it should have been much bigger but the cost of that was $2500 dollars not including the iron rods and the time to wind it. The machine cost us about $30.000 to make not cheap. I had a full time machinist helping me at this project who worked through the night with me.

I'm not going to repeat myself again study what I have said about the machine.

John Bedini




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I have used the half bipolar switch on my 3 pole kit before and had very low current draw. Had 1245rpm @ 12.10 volts 7.5ma draw= .10 watt. I wasn't using hall switching, I used a trigger coil (bifilar). But what I found was that there was really nothing to recycle or collect. If I remember correctly the 10uf 250 volt cap wouldn't even charge to 2 or 3 volts. With this set up I was going for the lowest amp draw I could get though. So I assume I need to turn things up so I have something to collect.

John states to put the diodes close to the switch? I had my diodes connect directly from the base of the 21194 to the base of the mpsa06. I didn't trim the legs down any. not sure what he means by that. Also had the bridge hooked directly to my coil wires. Should I be using something other than an 1n914 for my diodes?

Not sure what shaping the field does, makes the rotor faster or gives better collection of spike, anyone know. And what do you use to shape the field, copper, aluminuim or steel?

Then John says to "dump the charge in seconds according to the charge rate" are we dumping to the input battery or a secondary? Dump the charge in seconds, ok I assume that means dump it fairly quickly, a couple of seconds. According to the charge rate? Doen he want double the volts over the primary and with how big of a cap. I assume a small cap so it will fill quickly but does it matter what size?

If I use my 3 pole kit are my cores large enough ? If we are dumping into a secondary how many batteries will I need to have so my motor can run non stop, 2,3 or 4?

Sorry for so many question but I just want to get this working and have already tried so mant different ways without success.

Thanks, Mark
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Thanks John, got it. Time to get to work!


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More pictures

Here are some of my photos.

The first photo shows something that JB pointed out to us - the placement of the metal plates on the front hub (a plate directly underneath the shaped magnets and another plate on the back of the wooden hub on which the coils are mounted).



In the 2nd photo,JB also explained that the cores of the shorter side coils extended down into the wooden box, if I understood correctly, to line up with the outer edges of the iron plate underneath the big coil.



In this 3rd photo, the mounting angle of the neo's is visible.











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Picture of Dwell Arc and magnet spacing
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Thanks John,

I couldnt figure why you didn't just place the hall on the perimeter of the wheel but now it makes sense. The dwell starts at 23 degrees before and after each big magnet.


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parallel coils shorted to each other?

I think it is interesting the delay effect of the field shaping.

What sticks out for me and it may or may not be relevant, but all three
coils are in parallel. When coils are in parallel and the switch is shut off,
it discharges slower. It is like of like having a short circuited coil.

If you take a coil like single winding and short it to itself for example and
put that on the ground and you run a train over it with magnets on the
bottom like a Halbach Array for example, the magnet induces current in
that coil, the coil charges and makes a field that repels the very magnet
that induced the current to begin with. Anyway, the field collapses slower.

I originally found this effect in some very old magneto books going back
a hundred years. But it has interesting properties in other applications.

Again, not sure if the parallel coil field delay works hand in hand with that
magnetic field shaping delay effect - still thinking about that. And not
sure if this parallel coil arrangement even has a delay from them being
shorted into each other. Will have to draw it out.
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The first photo shows something that JB pointed out to us - the placement of the metal plates on the front hub (a plate directly underneath the shaped magnets and another plate on the back of the wooden hub on which the coils are mounted).
Not sure if it has been asked but are the coil cores on the regauging axle
motor physically/electrically connected to the steel plates behind the wood
that the coils are mounted on?

John said the core of the large center bottom coil is connected to the metal
shaping plate with some kind of metal or iron epoxy but what about the
regauging coil cores?
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John Bedini or anyone else who was at the event,

Forgive the question, it may be easily answered by someone who was there, but I wanted to know if the axial arrangement has power switched into it at any time, or does it function solely as a generator or means to charge a capacitor or backpop the primary.

From what I gathered so far the timing wheel has 16 magnets, which means it is for triggering the radial coils at the base, ala the Bedini/Cole switch with halls, as that matches the number of poles on the circumference.

So if the basics I have written above are correct, did anyone get a clue as to how John switches his charge OFF the axial arrangement? I see no commutation, is it solidstate? Is it NOT switched at all, perhaps permanently shorted but geometrically out of phase from the radial coils.

Fascinating machine John. I look forward to studying it.

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Yes the cores are bonded to the metal plate on the back.
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motor physically/electrically connected to the steel plates behind the wood
that the coils are mounted on?

John said the core of the large center bottom coil is connected to the metal
shaping plate with some kind of metal or iron epoxy but what about the
regauging coil cores?
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Ren,
The Motor/Generator is also switched at five points of the magnets all coils being series arrangement, you can see the five dots. when they line up the magnets are popped with a trigger signal in the mean time everything is shorted out flux wise.
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John Bedini or anyone else who was at the event,

Forgive the question, it may be easily answered by someone who was there, but I wanted to know if the axial arrangement has power switched into it at any time, or does it function solely as a generator or means to charge a capacitor or backpop the primary.

From what I gathered so far the timing wheel has 16 magnets, which means it is for triggering the radial coils at the base, ala the Bedini/Cole switch with halls, as that matches the number of poles on the circumference.

So if the basics I have written above are correct, did anyone get a clue as to how John switches his charge OFF the axial arrangement? I see no commutation, is it solidstate? Is it NOT switched at all, perhaps permanently shorted but geometrically out of phase from the radial coils.

Fascinating machine John. I look forward to studying it.

Regards
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Half Bipolar Bedini/Cole switching on Conjugates Coils

Hello John,

First of all, thank you so much for your comments above! You are truly an inspiration to us all!!!

I have been forcing my mind to think asymmetrical as much as possible here. I have created an image of base coil operation as a start. You should notice that the side conjugate coils are not TDC. It looks to be off by about 3 to 4 inches from what I recall. Only center coil is TDC.



Right now, my figures show...

61ohms for the Main Base Coil and
30.5ohms for the conjugate asymmetrical side coils.
This will equal the 12.2 ohm total in parallel.

The side coils are opposed pulsing a weaker south pole to create attraction, while the Main center coil is creating a huge repulsed north field when switch goes on. Very interesting non-linear arrangement to say the least. I do know there is more to learn here.

At this point I see the half bipolar bedini/cole circuit as the switch across conjugate coils in parallel. The switch sees this as a resistive load and non-inductive when on, but yet you are able to collect the collapsing magnet reactive impulse after disengaged.

I was looking at your Adams motor arrangement. Using the concept of your half bipolar bedini/cole circuit, I made some slight adjustments. Again, I am only learning here, but I see this as a method for switching the non-linear fields. Schematic parts will of course change accordingly.

We are all very inspired to test and learn here. Thank you so much!

Jeremy Burnum
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