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It was not only explained to you the number of turns was written on the coil and the impedance too.
I also said to everybody if you can not make the circuits I would supply them if the response was good. The two machines were tuned different because of the build, the difference between the two machines. I have never seen any of your builds. Do you plan on building something or is john just spinning his wheels here?.

I think it was understood how I run my lectures I do not leave anything out. You were also allowed to view the machine running take still pictures and ask any questions.

The only answer I received about the free part of the energy came from Peter L after waiting 45 seconds for the group to answer. Everybody was told where it was and how you get it along with the recovery process. You were also shown how to make a semiconductor battery and a oscillator to use as power or recovery to charge batteries, that was free for the taking, Chuck H, was also running a 30 pound window motor off those cells. To bad that nobody reported what was explained to them, but it was more technical the you have reported early on. and yes it also covered sales, it's the only way I know how to eat.
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My apologies John,

I am not trying to make anybody upset. Just a misunderstanding. The reason I said it was only a little technical is because I like mathematical representation. I know that a lot of people can't cope with math so your approach is understandable.

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Dave,
I understand what you have said . But one must understand that I have tried that approach before. When I brought the easel in. in the morning I gave a little lecture where the energy was coming from and I did start to get into the math in differentials and the equation I used to come to the conclusion in my thinking. People get lost when it comes to the quantum end of what the coil really is so I must try to keep this very simple. I try to keep it on a level that everybody can understand so I give the circuit with the values. Most people fall off to never never land when you start talking advanced math in vectors. But I did find one engineer that did know what was taking place, he did come to my shop and we did talk about energy, he said he was grateful that I kept it very simple as it is debatable with different physics people. So nothing taken at heart here, glad you could attend.
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Dave,
Almost forgot to say that the energy is taken between the differential points as the battery is it's own di-pole, this is why I called everybody up to the front of the class to feel the coils, I know that you can figure this out. In just simple terms of the difference between heat and cold. Just simple tuning to get the heat out of the machine, I like the cold end of switching, more energy.
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Almost forgot to say that the energy is taken between the differential points as the battery is it's own di-pole, this is why I called everybody up to the front of the class to feel the coils, I know that you can figure this out. In just simple terms of the difference between heat and cold. Just simple tuning to get the heat out of the machine, I like the cold end of switching, more energy.
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John,

Towards the end of the conference, I thought I was starting to see things a little more like you do. Confusion was being cleared up. Then I asked Peter L some questions and a whole other world of confusion set in. I felt like I was back where I started.

Thanks for getting me on the right track with the impedances of those coils. I had always been curious of the negative energy cooling effect and needed to feel it for myself. I see the significance of what you presented (I don't know why I didn't realize that those strands on the big coil were in parallel ).

These past few posts have really cleared up the confusion. I'll be turning on my ferris wheel replication tomorrow for some battery conditioning/circuit tuning.

Thank you again for everything,

Dave

P.S. How much of an extra load does the tuning coil cause?

If it does cause an extra load, is it just completely negated by the return of negative energy to the batteries?
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Towards the end of the conference, I thought I was starting to see things a little more like you do. Confusion was being cleared up. Then I asked Peter L some questions and a whole other world of confusion set in. I felt like I was back where I started.

Thanks for getting me on the right track with the impedances of those coils. I had always been curious of the negative energy cooling effect and needed to feel it for myself. I see the significance of what you presented (I don't know why I didn't realize that those strands on the big coil were in parallel ).

These past few posts have really cleared up the confusion. I'll be turning on my ferris wheel replication tomorrow for some battery conditioning/circuit tuning.

Thank you again for everything,

Dave

P.S. How much of an extra load does the tuning coil cause?

If it does cause an extra load, is it just completely negated by the return of negative energy to the batteries?
Dave,

John B told me on the way home that it works just like Tesla said it does. To get the power out you have to go very low on the impedance and high on the inductance. All of the energy used is returned to the system.

The Bedini/Cole circuit (which was not potted and anyone could take pictures of) gets the power to the capacitor in big pulses. Then the comparator circuit (which was also viewable) smacks the charge battery with a 30A or more pulse. John and Eric measured them, although Eric later on told me that the cap dumps were much higher than 30A.

Eric and I ran his machine in Rick's shop after the conference. First we ran it without the tuning coil. The pulse rate from the cap dump was I would estimate 5 pulses per second. Then we hooked up the tuning coil. The pulse rate increased to an estimated 8 pulses per second AND the wheel sped up. We put a laser tach on the wheel to prove it.

But here's what most people are missing, which Peter L nailed during John B's lecture. The wheel it was turning weighed at least 40 pounds, it took both Eric and I to lift it out when Eric disassembled it so he could fit it in his car. It also had A LOT of torque, I could not slow it down when I grabbed the shaft in my hand.

So you could pump water or run a generator off that shaft all day long and then just swap the batteries around when the primary battery runs down. There is your free energy right there.


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Dave,
When the tuning is right the load is not important, you will notice this. the machine will speed up as if the load was not in the system. John K did see the same thing. at that point you better have a good switch on the capacitor side to dump the pulses. If Peter confused you then you need to explain why now so we can clear this up. Always go to the man that presented the machine as not everybody views it the same way. Very important to do the experiment for yourself. I'm the one that built it Peter did not.
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The most important thing here is the two units I did show in the boxes. The Cole switch and the opto controlled comparator switching circuit. This controller is my intellectual property developed by Ron Cole and myself If your using the switches that were posted on the internet its not the same thing as you could not see under the circuit board, so I'm saying this up front. Most people can not make this unit.This is a much different type of comparator circuit as it must do three different things at one time as was shown by me when the wheel was slowed down. if you attended the conference then you saw the scope as you passed by in front of the machine.

I might point out that this conference will never take place again at that hotel. Next time we will only allow 150 people to attend the 2 day event. One day of talking from the speakers and one day of hands on.

Back to the circuits,
The circuits have a Patent Pending on them so Energenx owns them, The first to issue of these two is the Solar Oscillator patent. The control circuits have a block on them right now because they do what they do, They always use the National Security thing, this is not the first time this has happened as the Solar Patent took almost 5 years to issue and it used that comparator switching circuit in it.

The words in the Solar patent said "Charged in the moonlight", they did not like that. The other thing is they could do things here people would not like. 24 power people were in attendance and they did not like what they saw as the hotel invited them, not me, I was told later.
Hope I have answered some of the questions people were wondering.
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John , I'm sure we live in perilous times. Turmoil is all around us
Hyperinflation is here and there will be food on the shelves few will be
able to afford. You are helping every way you can. Having built almost
many versions of ssg's, Both variations of WM's and culminating
With my build of the "simplicity"...(sophisticated elegance ).
I have seen patterns and effects beyond the math.
I had questions I wanted to ask and I am sure I just came across
As another blubbering fan, but I wanted to learn. So as usual
I couldn't express myself very well.
I am asking about or trying to ask about the interferometry and
How it might relate to Bearden's description of the tesla dome.
Those of us who have built these machines have noticed certain effects
in common that we would like to know more about if appropriate.

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I'm going to answer this, but I must finish some things.
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Les K,
Yes the technology is far in advance of what taught in common science or EE class, and the masses must be kept real dumb when it comes to hidden science that only the elite of the world know.

The machine is basic interferometer and can run in that mode if one understands it. You are correct in what you and others have seen, hidden to most because they think it is a simple machine, but the coils do much more then they think is possible. This machine can cause spatial vector alignment or disrupt the vector to change space time.

An example of that is the big wheel running at idle speed at around 8 Hz at the last conference watching the screens as the spectrum of colors top down, some here will remember that. The next thing that can be done is producing ground waves to grow things, also we have found healing effects. But I do know what your getting at here and I fell I have said enough at this time.
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John B,

Thanks again for an amazing conference!

I'm sure most of us are spending all of our time since the conference ended, studying our notes and photos trying to piece together the circuitry that you were most gracious to share with us! I know your not going to post any schematics, but would you entertain the idea of grading our work? Just a thought...


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Brent,
I did say I would build the modules I showed and the response was good on the list, I can not say the price for them yet. But I'm sitting doing a cost analyses at this moment. I will say this, that just one of the circuits can do many things with capacitor dis-charge and that it will out charge any solar charger anybody has, it can also be used as a motor control capacitor discharge free from the power supply and you can operate at any speed. In Fact it will run the Lockridge device as they are all trying to do on that thread. This device took me some time to make because it must be done in Analog and can't be done in digital with out break down. Since it is a discreet device it can be changed at any time for any application. The list at the show had about 88 people on it so if the pricing works out right I will make the circuits running on the GT3 machine for sale.
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Thanks John,
My garden is doing unusually well by the way, my chickens came
out of molt after only one week tons of eggs and everyone says they
have never seen such beautiful feathers.

I put my name down for the circuit as well, but I will get as many as I can.
I don't think people really understand the value of the circuit.
Once you progress from monopole_3 the next step should be to
Get your ssg to charge 4 batts with one.
That should be done in earnest. And then the one wire change makes
perfect sense. and when that clicks and it is understood the next step
you have taught us is about the WM
The WM as it is has no lenz law... But our job as you have taught is to
be able to move lenz law in and out of the system as needed.
Now you have given us the key to that....
But I would never have gotten the understanding I have without building
The 3GT.
So if we actually understand then we know the value of that circuit.

Forget gold coins stock up on those circuits......

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It was a pleasure seeing the Wheels run, Both your's John and eric's. I enjoyed your lecture (thanks John k for letting me have your seat up front ) I know more now than ever.

I agree with Les, charge 4 with one, then you can use the bedini cole and comparator circuit as an advanced unit.

I showed some freinds the voltage readings from the 30 coil runs we did, they could not believe it. 1 volt down on the primary, 3 volts up on the charge bank!

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Thanks again for an amazing conference!

I'm sure most of us are spending all of our time since the conference ended, studying our notes and photos trying to piece together the circuitry that you were most gracious to share with us! I know your not going to post any schematics, but would you entertain the idea of grading our work? Just a thought...


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Hi Brent,
I was thinking about that circuit as well, actually been wondering
since I got my machine running I knew I was stuck till I got that
part figured out. But I also knew that would only be a lucky shot.
So I have been waiting for this conference. Now I realize it is far
more complex than I would have thought. Peters explanation filled
the bill. The node or spike that says the battery is done is very important.
A comparator circuit could catch that falling edge in comparison the
steady charge rate. But that is dc. With a cap pulser you have falling edges
all the time. When that occured to me I realized it would take years and years
of testing to figure out because you would have to watch hundreds of charging
cycles on many batteries to start to see the patterns.
Charging in the moonlight..... Who would have guessed such a thing would hold us back.... I know John and you are right! it's only our own minds holding us back. But this is a tough nut....

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Brent,
That is a good write up of what is going on. And yes we do have many years of watching batteries, not an easy thing to do. Most analyzers do not calculate what the actual state of the battery is. Most chargers do not completely charge the batteries, they just get you started.

It takes many hours to charge a battery to is full capacity, then the chemistry says I have had all I can take. charging real fast does not help as most of the power is wasted in heat. The circuit at the show was doing several things and it is not a simple Comparator circuit it must read the speed of the wheel look at the battery compare the capacitor add the correct resistance and regulate pulse and discharge.

This is why I slowed the wheel to show how the charging steps take place. I'm surprised someone did not post a picture of the effect. I did discuses on other pages here just what had to be developed to do this, I can use that thing for anything I want to do, it works good with the crystal cells in a series arrangement for charging batteries. This device is all analog because digital does not work with it.

Peter wanted to discuss the batteries so we said go to it. The device must track everything that is going on with the battery and the machine. I said this was not easy to do in the beginning. The people wanted to know what was in the boxes so I showed it in living color.

"Tom Bearden's work is really a required study and you must have an open mind", it very hard for most to do since the interferometer is not understood and the circuits must be able to perform those functions with a window for adjustment.

It has taken me all this time to build this device, Tesla had one very close to this,"THIS IS ESSENTIALLY, A CIRCUIT OF VERY HIGH SELF-INDUCTION AND SMALL RESISTANCE" with that quote what does the machine do with the batteries attached?. People were called to the machine to see the tuning and the difference in temperature of the two coils, that is energy working from both ends, I like the cold end.Enough said as I do not want trouble here.
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Ok John, I have sit on the side lines long enough. Please explain why "Digital" will not work in this scenario. After all, the chip you are using is "sensing" an input, Analog yes, but this is a signal is for the Comparotor to "Do something". In the analog world this would be seen as a voltage level. For a 5 volt chip, it would be seen as 0 to 5v, In the digital world, it would be seen as a value from 0 - 255. In the "digital world" this signal would be interpreted as a value and the "digital chip" would respond the same way (if the code was written appropriatley) So I would like to hear why your "
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Even John mentioned that he was surprised that nobody posted any photos.
Will some body please post photos of the wheels and circuits for us poor suckers that could not make it to the conference?
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Jeff,
Not to get into it with you, you should know why it does not work.
0 to 256 is not enough to do the calculations you need to be accurate. digital is either on or off it knows nothing in-between. you would be changing the code to make the formula work each time and would soon run out of memory and the calculations would quit. If it works that good then build it. It would be the difference between an analog recording and a digital recording. If you work in the real world it is analog, nature is not digital. I do everything in analog So I will end it here.
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Not to get into it with you, you should know why it does not work.
0 to 256 is not enough to do the calculations you need to be accurate. digital is either on or off it knows nothing in-between. you would be changing the code to make the formula work each time and would soon run out of memory and the calculations would quit. If it works that good then build it. It would be the difference between an analog recording and a digital recording. If you work in the real world it is analog, nature is not digital. I do everything in analog So I will end it here.
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Ok John, I know your "Just an Analog Guy" so I too will leave this alone. I have to point out though it would be 0 - 255, which is also the same as 0 - 5V. This is the "level" and not the calculations. Just as you are saying, the "Levels need to be accurate". In the "analog world" a glass half full, is 2.5V, and in the digital world, it is 127. These are just levels and we would expect the chip to do something at that level. Now comes the sampling rate, "How often do we check to see the level in the glass" (frequency and duty cycle of the oscillator). This is where accuracy can become compromised. Not to say the chip that you are using is inaccurate for the job you are asking it to do, but to say accuracy is an issue because it being "digital" I challange. There is no math calculation here or memory issue. A level is reached and we do something.

As far as "going and building", you know that I have been there.

I'll move on.

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Every time we attempt to let the digital control these desired negative processes it hinders the desired benefits. I warned about this in the beginning and have only seen this to be the case. Although I am not opposed to trying. Even when we use meters to merely monitor the processes, it still can hinder. I therefore prefer full relay in and out to check even voltages. Again, the chips fail when subjected to the DESIRED process when properly tuned to produce them. So they either fail or prevent the process. When you work with this for years as we have then you come to realize this. How many digital engineers thought that they could show us otherwise? It is not something that is a mere theory. It is almost like the difference between the syfi movies and ordinary life. The imagination can come up an image of the unreal and we can speculate about it or make a movie, but then we all have to go to work the next day in the real world. There is a reason these processes have been filtered out for 100 years, it is a negative experience. We have made it a positive experience when properly channeled. Call it ignorance or lack of experience as we do not claim to know everything, but we do not see so far. And 255 is very limiting of the real world. I spent the last 8 months finding out that 255 needs constant revision--"a simple fix"!

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Ok John, I know your "Just an Analog Guy" so I too will leave this alone. I have to point out though it would be 0 - 255, which is also the same as 0 - 5V. This is the "level" and not the calculations. Just as you are saying, the "Levels need to be accurate". In the "analog world" a glass half full, is 2.5V, and in the digital world, it is 127. These are just levels and we would expect the chip to do something at that level. Now comes the sampling rate, "How often do we check to see the level in the glass" (frequency and duty cycle of the oscillator). This is where accuracy can become compromised. Not to say the chip that you are using is inaccurate for the job you are asking it to do, but to say accuracy is an issue because it being "digital" I challange. There is no math calculation here or memory issue. A level is reached and we do something.

As far as "going and building", you know that I have been there.

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Every time we attempt to let the digital control these desired negative processes it hinders the desired benefits. I warned about this in the beginning and have only seen this to be the case. Although I am not opposed to trying. Even when we use meters to merely monitor the processes, it still can hinder. I therefore prefer full relay in and out to check even voltages. Again, the chips fail when subjected to the DESIRED process when properly tuned to produce them. So they either fail or prevent the process. When you work with this for years as we have then you come to realize this. How many digital engineers thought that they could show us otherwise? It is not something that is a mere theory. It is almost like the difference between the syfi movies and ordinary life. The imagination can come up an image of the unreal and we can speculate about it or make a movie, but then we all have to go to work the next day in the real world. There is a reason these processes have been filtered out for 100 years, it is a negative experience. We have made it a positive experience when properly channeled. Call it ignorance or lack of experience as we do not claim to know everything, but we do not see so far. And 255 is very limiting of the real world. I spent the last 8 months finding out that 255 needs constant revision--"a simple fix"!
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SO what your saying here Rick is....
Digital versus Analog, is kinda like, to put it into an analogy "A guy who pays his bills and a guys who don't", In that order. Or maybe "Someone who keeps his word and someone who doesn't. Or maybe even "Someone who practices what he preaches and complete hypocrite".

HMMMM.... .

I'll stick with the digital... that analog crap ain't good policy... For real.

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I want to say exactly, but not so. We have a lot of people not paying their bills lately, and especially not finishing the jobs they were paid for. But we are talking about something different here. I said I am open to seeing this done but so far I see nothing. Digital has its place. It appears to be limitless in application, but is it? Or rather it is made to appear so. We can 'talk' about it doing things but I don't see it. Make me a believer.

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Digital versus Analog, is kinda like, to put it into an analogy "A guy who pays his bills and a guys who don't", In that order. Or maybe "Someone who keeps his word and someone who doesn't. Or maybe even "Someone who practices what he preaches and complete hypocrite".

HMMMM.... .

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I have no issue with Matthew as far as I know, and I guess you can take the comments jokingly or positively or negatively. That is the thing about emails you just never know how people read them. Whatever hard feelings exist I learn from it all and am very open to criticism from friends or foes. I have learned a lot this last year and have a lot more to learn (both in regards to technology and doing business). I think most of us will one day gather around a table and laugh at everything. Time will tell. All the best to every one on this group.
Rick

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WOW, I am very sorry to read of any animosity bettween the likes of you
guy's. I hope that what ever it is, it will be worked out.

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Hey Rick,
Thanks, I am regretful that I was not able to attend the conference this
time, conflicting commitments, but I am sure everyone involved put a lot
of time into it. (you may put my name on your list for Aug. 2012)
Most people here working on these replications of JB and
others work, spend countless hours and money, to further there knowledge
and better their life and the lives of others around them. Most without ever
expecting any return for there time. I hope the spirit of working together
will continue with this group, as it has been great so far.
If I am able to join the list of those in line for the "modules" please put me in line JB.

(quoat from a JB post)
Brent,
"I did say I would build the modules I showed and the response was good on the list, I can not say the price for them yet."

Are there any modifications we can do with our current circuits untill you
have the modules ready?
Mark P.



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Hey Mark,
I have no issue with Matthew as far as I know, and I guess you can take the comments jokingly or positively or negatively. That is the thing about emails you just never know how people read them. Whatever hard feelings exist I learn from it all and am very open to criticism from friends or foes. I have learned a lot this last year and have a lot more to learn (both in regards to technology and doing business). I think most of us will one day gather around a table and laugh at everything. Time will tell. All the best to every one on this group.
Rick
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To All,
Some things you can do to test if the coil has the right impedance.
and checking to see the cap is getting the most charge.

For those that have gone to the conference. I explained that the machine needed an extra coil to balance the impedance out so this is an easy check. It should work with the original Bedini/ Cole motor switch. Brent, your machine from what you said should almost be right on.

Sorry this Forum is very quiet at this time when it should be hopping. I hope this little spat between digital and analog has not discourage you from your work as I just ignore it all, it's not important who is right or wrong. It is important to finish your machine and get it working.
Hope this gets more active soon. Another thing almost left out,
use a low impedance coil to check around 3.3 Ohms, you can clip lead it in the circuit, you will know if the machine speeds up.

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For my part my camera broke I lost my pictures.
Digital vs analog is a very old argument. As a test engineer you find out each has it's place. The debate is a non issue in my book so I was just avoiding adding anything to distract. Unless you get into low end test equipment you will find John is right on the money here... Enough said.

John I am finding that bearded is right that you can condition the environment. This information had to do with the work of bill tiller.
I am finding a radius of about 150 ft. after about four days of continous run Does that imply I am not getting all the energy I could into the cap? is it spilling out so to speak instead of being captured?

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For my part my camera broke I lost my pictures.
Digital vs analog is a very old argument. As a test engineer you find out each has it's place. The debate is a non issue in my book so I was just avoiding adding anything to distract. Unless you get into low end test equipment you will find John is right on the money here... Enough said.

John I am finding that bearded is right that you can condition the environment. This information had to do with the work of bill tiller.
I am finding a radius of about 150 ft. after about four days of continous run Does that imply I am not getting all the energy I could into the cap? is it spilling out so to speak instead of being captured?

Les

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Les K,
Yes I go along with you so I ended the subject because we both know and the others are just finding out.

Les, Tom Bearden has been at this for as long as I have known him.
Yes you must tune the circuit I did this for the show model John K had some good insight on all of this as I showed him and Eric how to do this when they could not get the machine to run.

You need to be at about 1 ampere or more with this circuit. so it is important that all the devices are matched at about the same current. For you guys here I will see about running some you-tubes on the demonstration that I gave at the conference. I think we all need a refresher here.

Les that coil can be an air coil away from the machine as the current oscillates between the two. Let me see how much time I have tomorrow to do this for the group. I will try to do the switch also.
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