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Old 11-23-2010, 03:36 AM
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Cikljamas,
Never herd of you but let's see what you built before I answer anything.
No missing link on the window motor, go on youtube and look at what people have built that run will well some run themselves.
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Hi, all !

Sorry, but i see mr Bedini is active in this forum, and i thought
that he does not come down to the Earth among us mortalitys ,
but he does ! I was wrong, but now i can not resist to ask
one or two questions, even if Mr Bedini ignored me...

Maybe i am out of theme a little bit, but how come i can not achieve
with Bedini SSG 4 coil, and even 5 coil (about 1500 turns each) better
result than 50 % of efficiency ? In fact if those things could give more
efficiency we should be able to see that high efficiency with just one
big coil and one little rotor, that is the simplest way to see if something
works or not, but there is no way to achieve OU with it just like that...
Are we all so clumsy, or there is some missing link in those circuits
SSG, window motor, etc...?

And finally maybe Mr. Bedini just never claimed OU with these things,
and most of us somehow think that he claimed OU ?
My impression is that majority of those bedini stuff builders start to
build this things believing that they are going to achieve OU, and
when they find out that there is no OU, they start to feel bitterness...
What is the catch 22 in this matter, i am humbly asking ?
Thanks for reading this, i hope my english is funny enough for laugh !

REgards !
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Thanks John and everyone for making this happen.

Jerdee
Great work on the circuit illustration. My son and I are designing and putting
together a six foot dia. wheel. Basiclly 1/2 of what JB built. May use a plexi. glass structure rather than wood or aluminum. We need to have something put together to test out all these circuits.

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Cikljamas,
Never herd of you but let's see what you built before I answer anything.
No missing link on the window motor, go on youtube and look at what people have built that run will well some run themselves.
John B
Thanks mr. Bedini for your answer !
Well, i am just one humble electronics ignorant who discovered few
years ago affinity towards electronics and year ago became addicted
to OU stuffs...Since Nikola Tesla, my countryman is very famous in my
country Croatia, but also in all countries that were part of former Yugoslavia
i know and i knew long time ago about his scientific achievements although
people in other countries were let say for example 20, 30 years ago knew
very little (out of scientific circuits) about him, and we know why...In recent
days his name came out of the box, and now in the internet era more and
more people know for his name and significance which is really huge...
So, maybe i am falling in love with electronics more and more even because
of some mysterious link that i feel towards that great man that we all are
so proud of...
I always saying myself : ok , you are ignorant, but it is never too late to
study something that you really love, and i started...
And now, i am going to give you a link of one of my videos that i shot
after i made something very similar to what this man from your link
made, but my ultimate achievement was about 6 mA for that one little
window motor showed in this video...
And knowing details about this video that you linked to me i must recall
that even this guy didnt achieve OU with his stuff, am i right ?
But, never mind, i do not believe i could achieve OU just like that,
i just ask is it possible at all with that kind of devices, and what special
conditions we should realise to get there ?
And i know Tesla knew this answers, but his work is suppressed very well,
so, maybe You are not aloud too to tell us all your secrets that you know.
And if it is so, i do not know what to say...
Here is link of my window toys :
YouTube - my second bedini window motor

Thanks again!
I wish You all the best !
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Old 11-23-2010, 04:57 AM
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cikljamas,
I don't know but it looks like your getting somewhere with all of this,
Make it run itself or at least try to do it. Looks like you need some good bearings that would help. I think things are very hard to get in your country, if you make it run itself you might change your mind. nobody is calling you ignorant at all. I think he has figured it out. he looks like a very ingenuous guy. Those types never talk but once so you will never know.
He may have a big one running by now. Tesla talked about it but no one ever saw the machine. your right it was hidden from public view. It's coming around the corner soon from every direction.


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Thanks mr. Bedini for your answer !
Well, i am just one humble electronics ignorant who discovered few
years ago affinity towards electronics and year ago became addicted
to OU stuffs...Since Nikola Tesla, my countryman is very famous in my
country Croatia, but also in all countries that were part of former Yugoslavia
i know and i knew long time ago about his scientific achievements although
people in other countries were let say for example 20, 30 years ago knew
very little (out of scientific circuits) about him, and we know why...In recent
days his name came out of the box, and now in the internet era more and
more people know for his name and significance which is really huge...
So, maybe i am falling in love with electronics more and more even because
of some mysterious link that i feel towards that great man that we all are
so proud of...
I always saying myself : ok , you are ignorant, but it is never too late to
study something that you really love, and i started...
And now, i am going to give you a link of one of my videos that i shot
after i made something very similar to what this man from your link
made, but my ultimate achievement was about 6 mA for that one little
window motor showed in this video...
And knowing details about this video that you linked to me i must recall
that even this guy didnt achieve OU with his stuff, am i right ?
But, never mind, i do not believe i could achieve OU just like that,
i just ask is it possible at all with that kind of devices, and what special
conditions we should realise to get there ?
And i know Tesla knew this answers, but his work is suppressed very well,
so, maybe You are not aloud too to tell us all your secrets that you know.
And if it is so, i do not know what to say...
Here is link of my window toys :
YouTube - my second bedini window motor

Thanks again!
I wish You all the best !
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The Beast of OU Machines!

WOW!

What a great video and a most amazing machine. Well Done John Bedini!

Thank you for sharing all this information on how you constructed this world changing machine!

I have two questions:

Are you willing to speculate what output you expect your machine to produce with a larger battery configuration? Just a rough estimate is fine.

Will you be disclosing the details about the 'highly modified Bedini/Cole circuit'?

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John,

I had an unbelievable revelation tonight.

I see the shaped field as differentials of scalar potentials. Interferometry ZERO wave!!!

The energy is at the differential of potentials zeros. This is between the asymmetrical bloch wall of the in phase base coils vs the asymmetrical bloch wall of the magnets!!!



Once I saw that the 10 coil re-gauging motor/generator fields are NOT interacting with the IN PHASE base coils it became clear!! This led me to understanding why you were able to use much smaller neo magnets!! And be able to use the center axle in generator mode…out of phase!!! Capture the energy with no current.

You are shaping base coil field at the bottom to create a larger south pole. Therefore the iron flange and outside extended cores do several things:

- Creates one huge asymmetrical field pulling the bloch wall DOWN!!!
- Forces the Zero point to be asymmetrical across all three coils
- Flange Forces the Zero point to be SPREAD OUT MUCH WIDER!!! Wider window for the energy to come in!!!!

With that said, we know can look at the neo-tipped asymmetrical field as pulling the NORTH back!! This does several things as well:

- Creates another asymmetrical field pulling the bloch wall UP!!!!
- Forces the Zero point to be asymmetrical across the magnets.

You are basically dealing with two sets of non-linear bloch walls that create differentials of potential that are pumped in interferometry mode. As Bearden would say, this is where the REAL VECTORS ARE!!!! Not taught at at University!!!

So John Depew is RIGHT!! We only want to deal with the magnetic currents only and create the largest differential of potentials!!!

This is a pumping zero field of two differentials out of phase in the same frame of TIME!!! Time Wave.

We now have two opposed differential potentials pumped! The hall switch triggers the half bipolar bedini/cole circuit @ 23 degrees after. Again pay nothing for the switch!!!

Simply UNBELIEVABLE work John!!! I’m eternally grateful for all your hard work!!

All the best!!

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One thing I've learned from working on John's technology and reading his posts is to look at every minute detail. John always does everything for a reason. (No offence Ren, but John is not going to use what's laying around on a $30K machine )



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Lol, none taken John. I guess I didnt express myself clearly, thats what happens when you try to type a response in your meal break at work.

I was basically trying to figure out what advantage the round magnet had over a square one for triggering, and whether there was a difference. I think JB summed it up pretty clearly for me. But I didnt mean to imply that he just chucked together whatever he had

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Lol, none taken John. I guess I didnt express myself clearly, thats what happens when you try to type a response in your meal break at work.

I was basically trying to figure out what advantage the round magnet had over a square one for triggering, and whether there was a difference. I think JB summed it up pretty clearly for me. But I didnt mean to imply that he just chucked together whatever he had

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Yes, I think John's drawing of the hall and the round magnet cleared it for me. A very clever way to adjust the dwell. When I get to that stage I know what to do. I guess the distance between the magnet and the hall will also be a factor that will affect the dwell.

Take care mate, wish I could send these bloody mozzies up your way. They are killing me!


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Hey John,

Thanx again! I downloaded it with KeepVid and played it back over and over frame by frame. You can very clearly see the angle of the iron sheet on the main coil. I have to think about the timing a bit more with the blue LED and the position of the rotor magnets, but I'll get it.

Great work! People will talk about this for many, many years to come. I bet 10,000 people will say "I was there..."

The look on the faces of the people at the conference was priceless.


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You are shaping base coil field at the bottom to create a larger south pole. Therefore the iron flange and outside extended cores do several things:

- Creates one huge asymmetrical field pulling the bloch wall DOWN!!!
- Forces the Zero point to be asymmetrical across all three coils
- Flange Forces the Zero point to be SPREAD OUT MUCH WIDER!!! Wider window for the energy to come in!!!!

With that said, we know can look at the neo-tipped asymmetrical field as pulling the NORTH back!! This does several things as well:

- Creates another asymmetrical field pulling the bloch wall UP!!!!
- Forces the Zero point to be asymmetrical across the magnets.

You are basically dealing with two sets of non-linear bloch walls that create differentials of potential that are pumped in interferometry mode. As Bearden would say, this is where the REAL VECTORS ARE!!!! Not taught at at University!!!
@Jerdee
Not to argue I just wanted to point out another possibility with same motives in mind. I usually look at things the way Johnson described it with 4 corners.


Instead of the Neo Back magnet pulling the bloch wall up they are forcing them down at an angle. Indicated by the light green arrows.
Likewise the center coils Bloch wall is being angle up by the metal plates field configuration with the coil. Indicated by the darker green arrows.
Also the side coils are more than likely skewed by the surrounding magnetic fields but I did not take that into consideration in the drawing.

Unlike one would expect the magnets gets its power from compression. The further from Zero (The implied center of the magnet) the field can reach out, and compress, the stronger the magnet's field are. A combination of fields can create a dense area that in turn reaches out further to compress more area into the magnets that create the field. IMHO

I am sure if it really matters we'll get answer sooner or later.

Cheers
Matt

Edit:
Just added one more model.

Opposing faces shrink fields. Modeled as Johnson explained.
http://www.matthewcjones.com/power/OpposingFaces.jpg
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Are we living the energy revolution? I hope so.
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John,

I am building a small working model of the BFW, and know that you have said several times that the core rods go thru to the sheet metal. My question is touching sufficient, or should they be bonded to it with an epoxy or a conductive substance?

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Hi Guys/Gals,

Because I don't have a solid electonics background, I need to do things with my hands. So, I seen this huge fan laying around. It is about 5 feet with about 4 1/2 feet blade. I will remove the blades and that will be the back side of the Motor. I will have to place a longer shaft to which the longer arms of the wheel will be run on Master-Slave-Slave setup.

John a few questions regarding the Ferris, Thanks in advance for your open information and your curtoesy:

1. Ed had 24 poles as opposed 16 poles on your Ferris Wheel. Does it have to be 16 poles?

2. On a previous post of this forum you stated Chopping the pulse in a DC Motor, I don't remember seeing a DC Motor on the Big Ferris Wheel, did I miss anything?

3. Can this motor use a normal contact as you stated in the beginning of the book "FEG" with a commutator with three contacts? Does it have to be a hall sensor?

4. Does this motor utitlize a PMH in any sorty?


I have attached a pic of a wierd looking PMH from Ed's castle. When I was visiting 4 days ago, it caught my attention because I never seen anyone trying this setup. What is interesting is how the motor is inside of it.
thanks in advance.

Abe



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Good now that you have done that. it's time to collect the charge and start dumping to the second battery with a cap do not get mixed up it's about time someone else does that. Remember use the negative switching out of phase from the rotor a fet with a zener does just fine. If you find the signal is feeble then think about it the answer will come to you. Make sure it's sixteen poles all north adjust the timing wheel for the correct overlap dwell use round magnets and make the hall adjustable, then go away and run your house, not one more word needs to be said/ or go help others, get your machine ready your going to need it.. Get the machine bigger if you can. Good work on doing that.........
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John,
thank you ever so much for all these pointers...
getting to work now...

best regards,
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uusedman,
I do not want to get into my theory here but 16 poles is ideal, before I talk about that go study all the drawings on code 144.com. I took all this stuff into consideration for this machine and now I can see what ED was saying, his generator is arranged with super poles, but his coils were iron wire.

He said I have generated more electricity with iron then copper. but The real clue was sweet sixteen and it's about the magnetic streams that come and go. It is depicted in the pictures of how it works but to use it you must create a imbalance in the streams. It's not what everybody thinks it is.

Researchers have been misinformed for a long time, even the best books you can buy like those on the Tom Bearden site as reference in magnetics could be just conditioning for the mind. I do not use it for antigravity like ED did I use the same waves for power. This is why I tied ED's work into the machine I had to find out for myself if it was true, and yes it is. ED may have been right when he called it magnetic currents going the same direction. More on this later. I never do anything without studying it first and running experiments. It's not what everybody thinks it is and it drives electrical engineers nuts.
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Because I don't have a solid electonics background, I need to do things with my hands. So, I seen this huge fan laying around. It is about 5 feet with about 4 1/2 feet blade. I will remove the blades and that will be the back side of the Motor. I will have to place a longer shaft to which the longer arms of the wheel will be run on Master-Slave-Slave setup.

John a few questions regarding the Ferris, Thanks in advance for your open information and your curtoesy:

1. Ed had 24 poles as opposed 16 poles on your Ferris Wheel. Does it have to be 16 poles?

2. On a previous post of this forum you stated Chopping the pulse in a DC Motor, I don't remember seeing a DC Motor on the Big Ferris Wheel, did I miss anything?

3. Can this motor use a normal contact as you stated in the beginning of the book "FEG" with a commutator with three contacts? Does it have to be a hall sensor?

4. Does this motor utitlize a PMH in any sorty?


I have attached a pic of a wierd looking PMH from Ed's castle. When I was visiting 4 days ago, it caught my attention because I never seen anyone trying this setup. What is interesting is how the motor is inside of it.
thanks in advance.

Abe



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Hi Guys/Gals,

Because I don't have a solid electonics background, I need to do things with my hands. So, I seen this huge fan laying around. It is about 5 feet with about 4 1/2 feet blade. I will remove the blades and that will be the back side of the Motor. I will have to place a longer shaft to which the longer arms of the wheel will be run on Master-Slave-Slave setup.

John a few questions regarding the Ferris, Thanks in advance for your open information and your curtoesy:

1. Ed had 24 poles as opposed 16 poles on your Ferris Wheel. Does it have to be 16 poles?

2. On a previous post of this forum you stated Chopping the pulse in a DC Motor, I don't remember seeing a DC Motor on the Big Ferris Wheel, did I miss anything?

3. Can this motor use a normal contact as you stated in the beginning of the book "FEG" with a commutator with three contacts? Does it have to be a hall sensor?

4. Does this motor utitlize a PMH in any sorty?


I have attached a pic of a wierd looking PMH from Ed's castle. When I was visiting 4 days ago, it caught my attention because I never seen anyone trying this setup. What is interesting is how the motor is inside of it.
thanks in advance.

Abe



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Good to see you here sorry I did not get to talk to you at the conference.
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I was going to say hi, but did not want to come off as another groupie,

Id more than love to chat however....ill send you a personal message with my email address.
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Jeremy,
Yes John Depew is right and so is code144.com this is the way all energy works, the unseen forces that surround us every day, the sixteen poles is the best as soon as somebody figures it out here, I'm waiting for the answer.
The wheel represents something very important.

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John,

I had an unbelievable revelation tonight.

I see the shaped field as differentials of scalar potentials. Interferometry ZERO wave!!!

The energy is at the differential of potentials zeros. This is between the asymmetrical bloch wall of the in phase base coils vs the asymmetrical bloch wall of the magnets!!!



Once I saw that the 10 coil re-gauging motor/generator fields are NOT interacting with the IN PHASE base coils it became clear!! This led me to understanding why you were able to use much smaller neo magnets!! And be able to use the center axle in generator mode…out of phase!!! Capture the energy with no current.

You are shaping base coil field at the bottom to create a larger south pole. Therefore the iron flange and outside extended cores do several things:

- Creates one huge asymmetrical field pulling the bloch wall DOWN!!!
- Forces the Zero point to be asymmetrical across all three coils
- Flange Forces the Zero point to be SPREAD OUT MUCH WIDER!!! Wider window for the energy to come in!!!!

With that said, we know can look at the neo-tipped asymmetrical field as pulling the NORTH back!! This does several things as well:

- Creates another asymmetrical field pulling the bloch wall UP!!!!
- Forces the Zero point to be asymmetrical across the magnets.

You are basically dealing with two sets of non-linear bloch walls that create differentials of potential that are pumped in interferometry mode. As Bearden would say, this is where the REAL VECTORS ARE!!!! Not taught at at University!!!

So John Depew is RIGHT!! We only want to deal with the magnetic currents only and create the largest differential of potentials!!!

This is a pumping zero field of two differentials out of phase in the same frame of TIME!!! Time Wave.

We now have two opposed differential potentials pumped! The hall switch triggers the half bipolar bedini/cole circuit @ 23 degrees after. Again pay nothing for the switch!!!

Simply UNBELIEVABLE work John!!! I’m eternally grateful for all your hard work!!

All the best!!

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Yes John Depew is right and so is code144.com this is the way all energy works, the unseen forces that surround us every day, the sixteen poles is the best as soon as somebody figures it out here, I'm waiting for the answer.
The wheel represents something very important.

John
The 16 magnetic streams that surround the Earth?


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Mark,
Think, the rods go through the bottom, now think what happens when you break a magnet into smaller pieces. Can you have a south pole and a north at the same time from one magnet where the shield intersects ? The rods are 2 inches down into the wood. you only need the coil form bonded to the shield. can you have a smaller south and a big south?
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The 16 magnetic streams that surround the Earth?


John K.
There is someone with an electromechanical battery (similar) on a magnetic
bearing setup that taps those streams (to my understanding). It is self running on
magnetic current. But he calls it an Earth Frequency "generator."

But in his model, he sees a magnet with 9 magnetic poles. 8 and then 1
virtual - something like that.

I thought for years it was running of the "simple model" of the Earth's
magnetic field.
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Old 11-24-2010, 02:19 AM
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John,
Yes, I see it better now. Thank you.
I did not catch that detail of the core thru the wood by two inch's.
I have built machines for automation and I can take them appart in my sleep, and I am sure this is blue printed in your mind.
I am tring to get a grasp of the simple complexity of this and I am greatful for all the help given.
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Mark,
Think, the rods go through the bottom, now think what happens when you break a magnet into smaller pieces. Can you have a south pole and a north at the same time from one magnet where the shield intersects ? The rods are 2 inches down into the wood. you only need the coil form bonded to the shield. can you have a smaller south and a big south?
John
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Code 144 and John Depew - Coral Castle

Just started this thread so people can get into in depth discussion
of the contents of Code144.com and John Depew's info in regards
to Coral Castle:
Code 144 & Jon Depew - Coral Castle

If John doesn't think it will distract from this thread then just post
it all here and I'll delete that thread. Otherwise, please post in that other
thread.

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Aaron,
I will tie this all together when the question I asked is answered.
Then we will play with code 144. If this is ok with you.
John
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Sweet 16

Sweet 16, 2 "Stars of David" superimposed on eachother as has been used as the symbol of the sun for all time.

The 16 magnetic streams from the wheel correspond with the 16 streams of energy inherent in sunlight. But, "Go Below?" the meaning still escapes me.

Josh



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Jeremy,
Yes John Depew is right and so is code144.com this is the way all energy works, the unseen forces that surround us every day, the sixteen poles is the best as soon as somebody figures it out here, I'm waiting for the answer.
The wheel represents something very important.

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ed leedskin generator, open collector coil when 5 magnets is precisely within collector coil and 1 magnet each is TDC over 2 exciter coils
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