I used that on my self running oscillator experiment that runs on caps and
doesn't need batts - just proof of concept.

However, what you're alluding to, I also shared that with some members
in the joule thief group and a few people actually tried it and cut their
input to half.

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minoly,

thanks for those two vids...unless you have since used those two batts again....can you let them rest a while....and let us know what the two voltages are after a good rest?

thanks

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for anyone that saw the whole vid, our primary started at 12.57 and in the end of the video it could be seen climbing to 12.59. It climbed to about 12.61 and settled at 12.59 2 hours later. the charging battery settled at 12.94 (interesting behavior, eh) we drained it back to 12.82ish w/ our 76 Bright white LED array for 26 minutes, full on (no joule thief trickery:-) 85mA). we have nothing to prove so we did not bother filming. Thing is, if we leave it to run 24 hours for example, it will not make a complete recovery. If, however, we cap dump to the charging battery, and rotate a set of 3-4 batteries, allowing one to set to rest, you can do this indefinitely as Bit's has shown.
Patrick

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I am a little confused right now. Isnt this big? Why doesn't the fact that we have self running and charging machines have half the world abuzz right now? At least some scientists. Why don't more people here seem excited?
I mean if you had a system like Bits' in an electric vehicle, it would be charging the vehicle while driving, braking, sitting at the red light, sitting in a parking lot for hours while your at work. Not that it would give enough electricity to run the vehicle by itself (YET!) Using a Bedini, regen braking, some clever solar panels, and maybe something like the wind belt, it may be possible. If not it would dramatically extend its run time. Thats a big deal! right? Hell, if you had an aerodynamic vehicle and were able to bypass your alternator (lots of wasted gas) and replace with a self-charging battery system, the money in gas saved (especially with oil starting to reach close to dangerous territory again) would pay for the system. Not to mention less strain on a motor means less pollution. The Greens should be beating down John's, Minoly, and Bits' doors right now! Right? Am I missing something?
Bits says at the moment he knocks around $50 bucks off his electric bill. Some would say "only $50?". I personally think that is huge!! So lets just say Bits has a Solar powered home, and he has the 10 coiler. Now that $50 bucks is a little more significant dont you think? He just got paid $50 dollars, from the elec co. If he had solar and a 30 coiler (if all is linear) he just put enough electricity back in the grid to run another home. For technically FREE!!! (I know if this were a real situation Bits would not think it was free! lol)
I mean when I started on this forum a couple years ago, the Bedini's were all over the place being mutilated by everyone, including myself. All looking for EXACTLY what has been shown too us in the last few days. And now only a few are even commenting, much less excited. Am I seeing something that doesn't really exist? A magic electricity shuffling trick that has me totally bamboozled? We have been asking for this, and now it is presented multiple times, and we are.............quiet. What gives? I always though that if you had a machine that ran itself, big or small, it would change the world.
Inventor: Hi, I have invented a self-running machine!
world: What?
Invent: Yep a self runner.
World: That means it could possibly run all sorts of stuff, from cars to businesses....cleanly, and for virtually nothing after initial cost?
Invent: yep, exciting huh?
World: Nah, I think Ill stick with the oil...I like the way it looks stuck to birds in the Gulf,,,
John, Jeff, Minoly, and all you guys that have a system like this...GREAT job, keep up all the hard work.

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Absoulty this is big! I think folks are starting to get it, albeit slowly. Redrechie, thank you. Now for my viewpoint, we have for many years tried to illustrate there are better methods to produce energy and clean up our environment. Some of these methods still go not being noticed because they are not "Packaged" for the normal consumer. I was asked by some attendee's at the conference the very question of, "When can I buy and distribute this to the world". I had to answer with "This conference is to Teach this technology and if we give in to the status quo, then we are just repeating the very mess that we are in today". Let me explain, if we allow 1 or 2 corporations to secure the right s to these inventions and technology's, then we have just allowed ourselves to be held hostage AGAIN. But, if we teach the world to be able to create and use the free energy, at will and adapted for our own use, we finally can break free. Redrechie, you are right, just imagine your car with a 10 coiler in it as you pass the fueling stations AND the power pedestals for charging. We have shown all this is possible with just a few items at the conference. John's wheel producing over 1.5 million joules of energy, Rick driving a electric lawn mower plus his electric car, The 10 coiler running on its own power and Peter sharing (teaching) the secrets of the Lockridge device and Patrick's latest vid. All I can say is WOW and look out 2011.

Jeff

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I know the arm twisting to put this in big biz hands has to be great. What a load off it would be. But I'm with you. It needs to be taught. And never forgotten. Not hidden, or swept under some corporate rug. I am not saying anything about this tech is easy. But compared to building a home brew nuclear reactor this is simple. And safer. And most of us can probably do it.
The basic principles are there for us. I think a definitive guide (see Ferris wheel post) would really get people on the right track. Most here can get this to work, if we had a real clear direction. Thats why we are here.
Your average person buys and maintains a lawnmower. He/she can fix most of whats happening with it. But they can not fabricate one. Especially with instructions that come from 5000 different sources.
I am a copier technician by day. Most people cant press a start button correctly. Trust me I know. This is not for them.

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I think there is that level of excitement with many people here and beyond

I think Jeane had it right when she mentioned that it is a social issue in engaging the scientific community in the possibility of the technology. What is really needed to push things along is some proper funding and a team of researchers to understand the fundamental concepts and the implications of it all. Its not at all impossible for the public to reverse the normal process and push it out there, but it is difficult.

On a personal level I am VERY excited about the technology on display. I have my kit up and running and cannot wait to push it as far as I can and then try to push even further with a new build. For me its baby steps as I prefer to let my hands on experiments tell me the truth and that by no means indicates that If I cannot attain OU I will blame the concept, I will just say that it is not my way of contributing to free energy and move on.

Even once I prove for myself the concepts that opened my eyes wide at the conference I still have some big questions to ponder, one which is that do I envision a world dependant on batteries in their house? How do I contribute best to moving the idea into the mainstream?

This is all amazing work and everyone I tell is interested but the general public is looking for me to prove it to them first... its just how our society seems to work on the grassroots level, prove it to me first and then I will consider looking into it.

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Ozy,
This probably isn't the forum for you...
Redisnoc

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Is Bedini saying without reservation that he has developed a legit verifyable
OU device?

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It looks that way Bill.

John himself has been very open and posting regularly on how one might replicate the large device shown at the conference.
Check out Sticky thread at top!

It is remarkable and I hope some replications appear in the near future.

However the people who were showing replications of the kits showing 'OU' at the conference are still not been very forthright with there data or conclusions. I hope this will change soon as I do believe they have something.
Otherwise, yep it's the old Bait and Switch thing again...

Ozy

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YouTube - JOHN BEDINI UNVEILS 14FT. HIGH MONOPOLE MOTOR AT CONFERENCE

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Thanks Ash


John K.

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Bedini Renaissance Conference marks turning point in overunity electromagnetic research

Sterling did a nice article.

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Your not listening again, take this to the 10 coiler thread.

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Ok, I have posted my question on the ten coil thread.
I look forward to your reply!

Thanks,
Ozy

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I know there are 400 + of you out there w/ the 3PM kits who are eager to get more energy out of it, so we wanted to share our “free timing wheel “schematic”” we do not recommend using a timing wheel unless you feel you have tuned your kit to its full potential including use of the LED’s.

I’m always impressed w/ the workmanship many of you put into these machines. We have had so many experiments for different ideas and we lack the machines and wherewithal to complete such beauty, that if we were to actually create beautiful machines for each experiment we think of, we would be about a year behind where we are now. + I’m cheap – that’s my excuse and I’m sticking to it :-)

For any of you who have kids, grandkids, nephews, and nieces – your mission is to make a trade w/ them. Show them how their Legos can be useful for grown-up machines and projects. The big white wheel comes from the NXT Mindstorm set. The axel comes from the same kit. We’ve used a rubber band w/ this, which also works fine for a few days.
If you have the Lego parts, caps, reeds, bearings, transistor, wood/plexy lying around, then you can slap this together fairly quickly. If not, Rick’s add on kit is only a few $ and days away.

YouTube - min2oly's Channel

Here is another version w/ rubber band and brush commutator running.

YouTube - min2oly's Channel

Have fun
P’n’S

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@All,

Quite a bit of that discussion on the 10 coiler has been moved to the 10
coiler thread. If there is any post that I moved there that needs to be
brought back here, let me know.

And if any more here needs to be moved there, let me know.

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Hi All,

Was wondering if anybody who went to the conference would like to fill us in on the goss about the r-charge range.

Any reviews from people who have bought the solar version?
I thought someone by now would of done a comparison to similar models on the market.

Also, I heard someone hooked up a solar r-charge to a ten coiler.
What happened there?

Any more news from other people who have built the ten coiler?

Would love to hear more information about these products.

Thanks,

Ozy

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Too Cool - Love it
FrznWtr

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Hi All
I'm the culprit
A fellow had a copy of the previous 3 poll schematic and I said wow I'd like a copy Please. He allowed me to take it to the hotel staff and make a copy. I thought I would help out and made a bunch and took them to Rick and he had them passed out. Sorry it wasn't realized that their was a different transistor used. Did my best. I opted to have my kit shipped to me as I only had a carry on bag. Worried about having to explain all the electronics parts to airport security. sheash
I did available myself of buying the extra coils and made it home with them OK. I'm ordering the timing cog from truth in heart to complete the learning experience.
I really enjoyed myself. Met lots of people and learned a bunch. I spoke with many of the presenters and asked lots of questions.
I intend to get the info on Johns big wheel when it becomes available and will be going to the July convention.
I want to build an 8' version of johns wheel with 6 sets of the 3 coils like a huge 10 coiler haha. Ambushes huh well wish me luck anyway please.
I'm not sure if I understand it correctly or not but I did talk to John and asked a few questions. The wheel had two separate systems on it that showed two different things and I believe they worked separately like ether/or.
The small 2' inner, was to idle the wheel showing the torque of the 10 coil, right?
The 3 large coil set was the gen so to speak and I believe 14 joule from 3 pulses a second, would be 1209600 Joules a day was figured as posable output. Am I correct in that figure?
I think that would be about 5k watts an hour, is that right?
I heard John fretting that we needed to hurry our inspection of the running system as he was concerned the bats might overcharge and blow sense their were only 3 to take the output, even with the limited rpm they had set.
I'd love to see it at full working RPM wouldn't you all?

The electric Porsche also held my intrust and I spent some time speaking to
and brain picking the teck that had built it. I was asking if he were collecting the back emf off the motor or what and he said well were going to pull all this out and put that big window motor in it next. Thats when the magic will happen.
He spoke of from 150 miles a charge to maybe 450 miles. Now were talking.
I assume he was speaking of the window motor B kit. But I'm not sure on that.
If you ask me the magics already here with off the shelf parts to convert a vehicle and get 150 WOW. I got 3 small size junkers to work with, think I'll have to give it a try. I also want one of those window motor kits - Yah.

Well I'll close and give my opinion - Worth every cent - Great Professional people sharing and having fun. See ya in July I hope.

PS Rick cleared up my concern about all 5 bats charging on my SSG.
Nice to know others have experienced it also.
Best to all
FrznWtr

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Also The smaller coils at the bottom were different distance from the big coil in the center one about a 1/4" further away and one about a 1/4" closer
Well No Tape-measure handy just best guess.
FrznWtr

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Are we having fun with our kits yet... here's another one with 24 transistors:
YouTube - min2oly's Channel

Patrick

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Nice work Patrick!

Jeff

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Indeed nice work, I am having fun with my kit also but last weekend I brought it with me to show some people and one neon bulb bent a little and touched a tranistor during transport so when I fired it up for the demo I smoked it

Regardless I have some new parts on the way and will make it a little more portable this time

I noticed you have what looks like metal bent over the back of your drive coils. Does that help the strength of the magnetic field? Are the extra transistors just added in paralell to allow for more current to the coils when firing?

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Hey kippered,
sorry to hear about your Neon situation. there's always a learning curve, eh - been there done that. we left the neons off and are living life on the edge. one wrong connection and it's see you latter "all 24 transistors".
each of the 3 coils (not gen coil) is a 9 filer. we only used 8 out of the 9 -- x 3 that makes 24 transistors.
we ran out of the welding rods. that bent metal thing was from another experiment we were doing, the welding rods are welded on
we'll have to order some more....


@ Jeff
Thanks

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Thanks for the reply Jeff, using 8 filar? nice does this seem to amplify the results? At the conference I was told that you can reduce the charging time of the coil with extra filars and have been looking forward to that test, but baby steps first...

I just got my replacement parts so I should have it up and running again tomorrow, then my fun begins

I have some nice wire wound pots for the trigger circuit, some new transistors and a bunch of other stuff to experiment and tweak the kit to the best of my abilities.

Good times!

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Here you go:



This is one way to turn that 3PM kit into an overunity energizer.

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This just came up in Google when looking for some EnergenX links:
https://rickfriedrich.wordpress.com

Read the blog -

In the early to mid 2000’s, Rick Friedrich proposed a business deal to EnergenX, Inc., a company headed up by a world famous electrical engineer, John Bedini. Rick Friedrich’s desire was to private label battery chargers and rejuvenators built by John Bedini’s company. Rick Friedrich‘s company name was Renaissance Charge or R-Charge for short.

Rick Friedrich signed a non-disclosure agreement with EnergenX and promised to respect the confidentiality of John Bedini’s proprietary information that went into the chargers. This intellectual property was the sole property of John Bedini and EnergenX.

A few years ago, around 2011, it was discovered that Rick Friedrich had been involved in some shady business deals with many customers in addition to discovering the disappearance of hardware that was the property of EnergenX. It was also discovered that Rick Friedrich had been accessing John Bedini’s computers by sneaking into the building at night and going through the files.

There were also some energizer kits based on John Bedini’s “SG” designs that were manufactured and distributed by Rick Friedrich. One of the larger units was sold by him to someone for thousands of dollars. As soon as Rick Friedrich of R-Charge had this money, he immediately commenced to sell this exact same unit to someone else for the same amount of money. This is one of countless incidents that Rick Friedrich had done to a number of customers.

This quickly became the normal course of operation for Rick Friedrich and John Bedini and his associates and company wanted nothing more to do with him or his way of doing business. Rick Friedrich‘s relationship with EnergenX was immediately terminated and he got the boot. Immediately, Rick Friedrich began to manufacture and sell battery chargers based on EnergenX’s proprietary circuits, albeit older obsolete ones, but nevertheless, this was all in complete violation of the non disclosure agreement that he signed with EnergenX.

Since then, EnergenX and its distributors have collectively received many dozens of complaints from customers because of purchasing battery chargers and never receiving product. These complaints included the fact that they never received customer service. Many of these complaints also included the fact that many of the chargers did not work, worked a short time or simply did not do as claimed. What surprised everyone is when they learned that Rick Friedrich and R-Charge actually had no further relationship with EnergenX and that he was illegally selling low quality bootlegged versions of John Bedini’s chargers.

To this day, Rick Friedrich continues to sell his low quality pirated versions of these chargers and he also holds mini-conferences claiming to be an expert in “free energy” technologies. He claims to be a man of God and most of his websites are dedicated to him preaching the Gospel to others. This is all one big hypocritical act because the truth is that he is nothing more than a common thief and we challenge him to prove otherwise.

If you have been personally ripped off or hoodwinked by Rick Friedrich the charlatan, we invite you to please contact us and submit your story. If you can include your real name, email, mailing address and phone number, we are going to compile all of these complaints and submit them to the Attorney General as long as various federal agencies because the time has come for his dog and pony show to come to and end.

Please let us know if we can post your complaint publicly on this website. We will remove your personal contact information but would like to list your name and location. If you want to remain anonymous, we will respect that as well. If you do not want us to list your complaint at all, that is fine and we will simply reserve it for the Attorney General.

Please submit your complaints here: https://rickfriedrich.wordpress.com/contact/

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Hi pentarbe, the following is a response from Rick Friedrich:

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