Cosmic Induction Generator by John Polakowski

The Real History of the Ed Gray Motor by Mark McKay
Energetic Forum  

Go Back   Energetic Forum > Energetic Forum Discussion > Renewable Energy > John Bedini
Homepage Energetic Science Ministries Register FAQ Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

John Bedini Discussion threads relating to John Bedini. Bedini SG, Bedini SSG, Crystal Batteries, etc...

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 08-02-2010, 05:23 PM
abb8279 abb8279 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 32
r-charge / bedini - solar power charger

Anybody have any thoughts or experience with the solar power charger from r-charge?

Renaissance Charge LLC Testimonials RC-2A12

They have 10, 20 and 30 amp models for controlling/charging batteries from solar panels. Even at 30 amps thats only going to be 360 watts at 12 volts. This does not seem like something that could be used to power a home becasue thats not enough power. Does it produce more more power than it recieves via the solar panels? Can it be used in a manner like the 10 pole energizer or the simplified school girl motor - using batteries to charge other batteries?

I send an email to r-charge but they have not responded. Any thoughts or comments are welcome. thanks.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post! share on MyspaceShare on FacebookTweet this thread
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 08-02-2010, 05:32 PM
SilverToGold's Avatar
SilverToGold SilverToGold is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 414
I just got my Tesla Power Amplifier 30A model a couple days ago. It's actually 720 Watts input. 24V x 30A.

They plan on coming out with a 150A model later if you want to use it to power a house.

Haven't been able to do much with it at the moment due to time limitations.

A little disappointed that there was no instruction manual included. Thought the first instruction on the front panel is to refer to the instruction manual.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post! share on MyspaceShare on FacebookTweet this thread
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 08-02-2010, 07:03 PM
dragon's Avatar
dragon dragon is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 612
Controllers

For the cost of them, not to mention the lead time, I'll stick with the good ole' reliable Xantrex controllers for 147.00 for 60 amp use ( C60). I've looked at the MPPT controllers which are quite nice in how they work but I doubt you'll ever see a payback from using them. The few watts you loose in conventional controllers far exceeds the cost of recovering those small losses.

Another nice feature of the Xantrex controllers is they can be used for wind as well as solar as they can be configured for a basic controller (solar), diversion controller(wind) and a load controller which allows you to use a load based on battery voltage. Inexpensive and versitile.

For that price it should double your input to make it worth while. I've run my house on wind and solar for 10years now and wouldn't go back for nothing... I don't run any of my 220v stuff at this point ( washer, drier, stove etc ) which is still on the grid but when the grid goes down I don't have to worry about rushing out and firing up the genny for basic needs.
________
Squirell

Last edited by dragon : 05-11-2011 at 10:38 AM.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post! share on MyspaceShare on FacebookTweet this thread
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 08-02-2010, 09:32 PM
Mark Mark is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 793
Hello Dragon

Does your Xantrex controller use pulse width technology? And if not what is the life span on your batteries?

Thanks,
Mark
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post! share on MyspaceShare on FacebookTweet this thread
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 08-02-2010, 10:02 PM
abb8279 abb8279 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 32
Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverToGold View Post
I just got my Tesla Power Amplifier 30A model a couple days ago. It's actually 720 Watts input. 24V x 30A.

They plan on coming out with a 150A model later if you want to use it to power a house.

Haven't been able to do much with it at the moment due to time limitations.

A little disappointed that there was no instruction manual included. Thought the first instruction on the front panel is to refer to the instruction manual.
Thanks for posting.

I'm very much looking forward to how it works. Based on the photo of the product online, it says 12/24 volts in and 12/24 volts out. So I wonder if you can use a battery to power the device on the input and see if it can charge more batteries on the output like an SSG. Please keep us informed of anything you learn about this product!
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post! share on MyspaceShare on FacebookTweet this thread
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 08-02-2010, 11:32 PM
dragon's Avatar
dragon dragon is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 612
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark View Post
Hello Dragon

Does your Xantrex controller use pulse width technology? And if not what is the life span on your batteries?

Thanks,
Mark
Yes,I believe it does. It's been years since I've looked at the manual, you could check the manuals on line to be sure. I just changed out my battery bank which had 8 years on it although they were still working well I thought it might be better to have a fresh pack as I didn't know where the economy is going. I gave them to my neighbor who has the bank still in service on his system and so far their doing fine. The batteries are the standard T105 Trojans, the same as used in golf carts. I suspect 10 years life on them would be reasonable if cared for. The Xantrex also has a manual equalize mode that brings them up to 15.5 volts for 1 hour to desulfate the plates, I do this every 30 days to keep them healthy. Other than basic maintenance on the batteries it's pretty much self contained.
________
Krissy

Last edited by dragon : 05-11-2011 at 10:38 AM.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post! share on MyspaceShare on FacebookTweet this thread
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 08-03-2010, 07:21 PM
SilverToGold's Avatar
SilverToGold SilverToGold is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 414
Well, here are some pictures for you guys of the new Tesla Solar Charger.

I had to take a peek inside... and included a picture for you guys if you're interested.

Will test when I have some time.

Last edited by SilverToGold : 07-07-2011 at 10:42 PM.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post! share on MyspaceShare on FacebookTweet this thread
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 08-03-2010, 08:47 PM
abb8279 abb8279 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 32
Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverToGold View Post
Well, here are some pictures for you guys of the new Tesla Solar Charger.

I had to take a peek inside... and included a picture for you guys if you're interested.

Will test when I have some time.
Looks like a fairly large machine for only 720 watts. Its different than the machine they show on their website at r-charge.com. The name is interesting..."Tesla Power Amplifier". They are choosing not to call it a charge controller but an amplifier instead. I wonder why?
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post! share on MyspaceShare on FacebookTweet this thread
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 08-07-2010, 01:52 PM
btrapr btrapr is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 2
a little off topic

I too am on a quest for a solar control system...

I have found the Ghurd LVD/Dump circuit interesting and a lot of good reviews from buyers... $12.95 plus shipping
ghurd - Hurd Solar Renewable Energy | Dump Controllers
*The only downside is that the P-fet is now obsolete- NOT sure what can replace the ZM33064? ANY IDEAS?
reviews- check fieldline.com
here is a link for a search I did there
Set Search Parameters

here is another option
Linear Current Booster as a possible project for someone (Ghurd)?

OR these are on Fleebay
LM2596 DC Converter Adjustable Power Module Regulator - eBay (item 320559004290 end time Aug-07-10 07:25:05 PDT)
$10 shipped!
This company also has other similar
10~32V to 35~60V DC Converter Power Voltage Regulator - eBay (item 320571235238 end time Sep-03-10 17:50:02 PDT)

10~32V to 35~60V DC Converter Power Voltage Regulator - eBay (item 320571235238 end time Sep-03-10 17:50:02 PDT)
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post! share on MyspaceShare on FacebookTweet this thread
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 08-07-2010, 03:10 PM
minoly's Avatar
minoly minoly is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 514
Two small questions to keep in mind-

Do any of these other charge controllers charge in seriously low light?

If JB's charger is charging in the moonlight, what is it doing w/ full sunlight?

You can setup a small joule thief circuit to verify this for yourself w/ a small solar cell.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post! share on MyspaceShare on FacebookTweet this thread
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 08-07-2010, 05:09 PM
patmac's Avatar
patmac patmac is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Colombia
Posts: 356
Send a message via MSN to patmac
@Silvertogo

Look the complete circuit is sumerged in resin, whatever I've ever insisted there are some tricks hidden in all Bedini technology.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post! share on MyspaceShare on FacebookTweet this thread
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 08-07-2010, 05:19 PM
ewizard's Avatar
ewizard ewizard is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Outside the Matrix
Posts: 992
Unfortunately I heard on a test of the solar charger that the implied possible OU does not now exist in the units being shipped. Either the PTB got to Bedini and forced them to limit it or it never had the capability so IMO it's just a solar charge controller on the high end of things price wise.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post! share on MyspaceShare on FacebookTweet this thread
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old 08-08-2010, 01:07 AM
theremart's Avatar
theremart theremart is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,412
Sad to hear.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ewizard View Post
Unfortunately I heard on a test of the solar charger that the implied possible OU does not now exist in the units being shipped. Either the PTB got to Bedini and forced them to limit it or it never had the capability so IMO it's just a solar charge controller on the high end of things price wise.
I know how much you love Bedini circuits..

I was hoping this device was as was shown in the video by Bedini.

Still, look forward to seeing others results.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post! share on MyspaceShare on FacebookTweet this thread
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old 08-08-2010, 01:57 AM
ashtweth's Avatar
ashtweth ashtweth is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 2,493
Send a message via Skype™ to ashtweth
On the Solar Panel now guys charging a dead lead acid battery, filmed a research report and will have it up ASAP after results are in.




Ash

Last edited by ashtweth : 08-08-2010 at 01:59 AM.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post! share on MyspaceShare on FacebookTweet this thread
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old 08-09-2010, 02:31 AM
sucahyo's Avatar
sucahyo sucahyo is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 3,073
Quote:
Originally Posted by ashtweth View Post
On the Solar Panel now guys charging a dead lead acid battery, filmed a research report and will have it up ASAP after results are in.

Ash
Can you test it on a good battery too? Because I think people want to use it on good battery. People do not buy it as battery reviver?
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post! share on MyspaceShare on FacebookTweet this thread
Reply With Quote
  #16 (permalink)  
Old 08-09-2010, 01:03 PM
Mark Mark is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 793
I'd like to know if you can use a battery on the input and the output, and if you rotate them will both batteries get charged up or will they both end up discharging. Can you even use a battery on the input?

Mark
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post! share on MyspaceShare on FacebookTweet this thread
Reply With Quote
  #17 (permalink)  
Old 08-10-2010, 01:51 AM
ashtweth's Avatar
ashtweth ashtweth is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 2,493
Send a message via Skype™ to ashtweth
Hi sucahyo/Mark

Sure thing , have some good batteries and will film some load tests.

Ash
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post! share on MyspaceShare on FacebookTweet this thread
Reply With Quote
  #18 (permalink)  
Old 08-10-2010, 02:03 AM
Mark Mark is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 793
Thanks Ash look forward to your report.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post! share on MyspaceShare on FacebookTweet this thread
Reply With Quote
  #19 (permalink)  
Old 08-11-2010, 03:24 AM
sucahyo's Avatar
sucahyo sucahyo is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 3,073
Thanks, I will look forward to the report too .
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post! share on MyspaceShare on FacebookTweet this thread
Reply With Quote
  #20 (permalink)  
Old 08-12-2010, 04:20 AM
ashtweth's Avatar
ashtweth ashtweth is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 2,493
Send a message via Skype™ to ashtweth
As the Frankenstein Doctor said IT ALIVE!

120 watt solar panel we use to do the RV educational energy saving demos.


Solar amplifier charging a dead lead acid battery, originally 2 volts and could not take a charge from an electron pusher.



Loaded, and holding charge running a fan


Since this battery creates an electrochemical cold charge its has to be the best solar lead acid battery charger METHOD to rejuvenate and charge Solar lead acid batteries

It helps when People read about the amplifier on the Panacea page as they can learn what it can really do and how we need to help John turn it up!(create safer conditions for him,. Steorn production from us soon to help this). John Bedini

More test on the way guys.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post! share on MyspaceShare on FacebookTweet this thread
Reply With Quote
  #21 (permalink)  
Old 08-13-2010, 12:09 PM
Mark Mark is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 793
Hey Ash

Have you had the time yet to see if you can use a battery on the input yet? And then of course I'll need to know what happens to both batteries as you swap them back and forth. I wish you were close to me, I'd love to give you a hand with all the exciting things your working on!

Mark
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post! share on MyspaceShare on FacebookTweet this thread
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
  #22 (permalink)  
Old 08-13-2010, 09:56 PM
Farmhand's Avatar
Farmhand Farmhand is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Australia
Posts: 3,347
Use the batteries while charging

Hi all, I guess I gotta ask the question.

Can the batteries/ battery bank be used while being charged by this unit?

I would hope it is possible to draw power from a solar system "with this unit" at any time, as is possible with conventional solar setups.

Regards.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post! share on MyspaceShare on FacebookTweet this thread
Reply With Quote
  #23 (permalink)  
Old 08-15-2010, 02:22 AM
ashtweth's Avatar
ashtweth ashtweth is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 2,493
Send a message via Skype™ to ashtweth
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark View Post
Hey Ash

Have you had the time yet to see if you can use a battery on the input yet? And then of course I'll need to know what happens to both batteries as you swap them back and forth. I wish you were close to me, I'd love to give you a hand with all the exciting things your working on!

Mark
Hi Mark, Farmhand and ALL

Guys there is always room for improvement on this, am getting some data back to john for Rick for this, i dont see any reason why not, ill try the battery.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post! share on MyspaceShare on FacebookTweet this thread
Reply With Quote
  #24 (permalink)  
Old 08-16-2010, 09:50 PM
Mark Mark is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 793
Hey Ash,

Was wondering if you have any info back from Rick or John and if you've done any further testing.

Thanks again, Mark
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post! share on MyspaceShare on FacebookTweet this thread
Reply With Quote
  #25 (permalink)  
Old 08-17-2010, 01:48 AM
ashtweth's Avatar
ashtweth ashtweth is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 2,493
Send a message via Skype™ to ashtweth
Hi Mark, yes we are on day 3 of bringing back the second battery, looks like the second battery is coming back to life, we just bought back some drill batteries on the solid state also.

Soon as battery 2 is finished will hook up the battery in place of the Solar panel Still waiting for the manual
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post! share on MyspaceShare on FacebookTweet this thread
Reply With Quote
  #26 (permalink)  
Old 08-17-2010, 03:01 AM
Angelinabv Angelinabv is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 9
HI,

In most cases the charger uses no more than 6-10% more energy than conventional chargers. We are confident that the industry will agree that a small increase in electrical power consumption is a small price to pay for the typically incredible increases in battery capacity, not to mention the significant savings because of lower battery replacement costs...."


Never mind, the radiant battery charger can be very very useful. It has more value than the 'usual' battery charger, because one can dramatically extend the life of batteries. One day I will buy the Solar Kick battery charger

Technical Consulting services
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post! share on MyspaceShare on FacebookTweet this thread
Reply With Quote
  #27 (permalink)  
Old 08-17-2010, 03:11 AM
ashtweth's Avatar
ashtweth ashtweth is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 2,493
Send a message via Skype™ to ashtweth
>In most cases the charger uses no more than 6-10% more energy than conventional chargers.

He told me that these Tesla Switch Solar Chargers can put out a lot more, but that he purposely clamps down their output, which could be "massive". "I don't dare turn it up."
Tesla Switch Solar Charger to debut at Bedini conference
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post! share on MyspaceShare on FacebookTweet this thread
Reply With Quote
  #28 (permalink)  
Old 08-18-2010, 12:05 AM
Farmhand's Avatar
Farmhand Farmhand is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Australia
Posts: 3,347
I am going to buy one of these soon, I think combining different systems in the right way may be the key to providing ourselves with practical energy systems.

I wonder if this could work on one bank of batteries while being used, while another bank is being charged by SSG while not being used, then swapped as per normal but with the power amplifier and solar panels always feeding the opposite bank to the SSG which is also powered by the bank that is being used.

Hope that make's sense.

I would think with a setup such as this more usable power would be available.

Keep up the good work Ash.

Regards
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post! share on MyspaceShare on FacebookTweet this thread
Reply With Quote
  #29 (permalink)  
Old 08-18-2010, 05:07 AM
ashtweth's Avatar
ashtweth ashtweth is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 2,493
Send a message via Skype™ to ashtweth
Wonder how we can turn this switch up
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post! share on MyspaceShare on FacebookTweet this thread
Reply With Quote
  #30 (permalink)  
Old 08-18-2010, 11:43 AM
John_K John_K is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 520
Hi All,

I posted some of my results on the other thread:

Bedini Tesla Switch Solar Amplifier (post #47)

@Ash, testing is looking good mate!


John K.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post! share on MyspaceShare on FacebookTweet this thread
Reply With Quote
Reply



Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT. The time now is 01:38 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.0.0 RC8
2007 Copyright ? Energetic Forum? A Non Profit Corporation - All Rights Reserved